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    tylermooretylermoore St. Joseph, MI Posts: 887
    This is my 4th cancelation now for this band. Which is fine. But why have people buy hundreds dollars of merch for a show you know isn’t going to happen. It’s fine, just the cost of a poster and shirt. Pretty crap move by the band in my opinion 
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    Muffin The MuleMuffin The Mule Amersham, Bucks Posts: 436
    Back to the pub
    Brixton Academy 14/7/93, Wembley Arena 29/5/00, Wembley Arena 18/6/07, London O2 18/8/09, Hyde Park 25/6/10, Manchester 20/6/12, Arras 30/6/12, Werchter 5/7/14, Leeds 8/7/14, Milton Keynes 11/7/14, Mexico City 28/11/15, Toronto 10/5/16, Toronto 12/5/16,  Amsterdam 12/6/18, Amsterdam 13/6/18, London 18/6/18, Werchter 7/7/18, London 17/7/18, Werchter 30/6/22, London 8/7/22, London 9/7/22, Budapest 12/7/22, Prague 22/7/22, Amsterdam 24/7/22, Amsterdam 25/7/22, Dublin 22/6/24, Manchester 25/6/24, London 29/6/2024, Berlin 2/7/24, Berlin 3/7/24 
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    PeArLgOoNeRPeArLgOoNeR Posts: 1,248
    gotthebottle said:
    How about NOW... it's bullshit they waited so long when they knew his voice wasn't ready
    They clearly DIDN'T know.. 

    Hamburg 2000, Berlin 2006, Copenhagen 2007, Berlin 2009, Berlin 2010, Berlin 1+2 2012, Copenhagen 2012, Amsterdam 1+2 2014, Vienna 2014, Berlin 2014, Prague 2018, Krakow 2018
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    arnhem1976arnhem1976 Posts: 647

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    nesslernessler Posts: 11
    I'm cancelling our hotel, there's no point anymore for the gig tomorrow
    Just wish they'd cancel tomorrow too, instead of keeping everybody's hopes up. this is really not the way to treat all those travelling...

    I understand he's sick, but this waiting game is uncalled for.
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    JimmyVJimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 18,937
    "All of our energies will be focused on having a show tomorrow."
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    "...I changed by not changing at all..."
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    stuckinlinestuckinline Posts: 3,359
    KM73780 said:
    Seems like it would be in everyone’s best interest to just cancel tomorrow now too ….I dunno 
    They should cancel tomorrow's show, head home, let Ed relax, and rest his voice.

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    gotthebottlegotthebottle San Diego Posts: 2,416
    JimmyV said:
    I'm somehow both stunned but not surprised. Whatever damage was done to Ed is serious and getting scarier with each cancellation. 
    When you have that kind of problem all you can do is rest rest rest the voice so you don't cause MORE permanent damage in future. They could've cx last 2 shows ahead and saved fans the stress. Sad
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    JackD.JackD. Posts: 485
    Yeah, what's the point. They should call it a day and come back strong next year and start the leg with the 4 cancelled shows. How good can tomorrow's show be if today is a straight "not possible". Doubt Ed is back to 100 percent tomorrow.
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    SpinTheLastExitSpinTheLastExit Edinburgh, Scotland Posts: 398
    stuckinline said:
    KM73780 said:
    Seems like it would be in everyone’s best interest to just cancel tomorrow now too ….I dunno 
    They should cancel tomorrow's show, head home, let Ed relax, and rest his voice.

    I'm in complete agreement. People stressing over it all day today will have the same experience tomorrow. Not good.
    2012 – Manchester II
    2014 – Amsterdam I & II, Gdynia, Leeds, Milton Keynes
    2016 – Wrigley I & II
    2017 – Amsterdam III [EV]
    2018 – London I, Padova, Rome, Prague, Krakow, Berlin, Barcelona, Madrid, Wrigley I & II
    2019 – Dublin [EV]
    2022 – Copenhagen, Hyde Park I, St. Louis
    2023 – Chicago I & II
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    JimmyVJimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 18,937
    Not a doctor, but I'm skeptical Ed could be unable to perform tonight but able to perform tomorrow without doing more damage. 
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    "...I changed by not changing at all..."
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    heartofadogheartofadog Portland, OR Posts: 352
    If he doesn’t have a voice today he’s not going to be magically ready to sing for two hours tomorrow. Just announce the cancellation and give the fans a chance to try and plan around that even a little bit.
    1993: Portland, OR (09/06), Seattle, WA (12/07), Seattle, WA (12/08), Seattle, WA (12/09)
    1995: Seattle, WA (02/05)
    1996: Seattle, WA (09/16)
    1997:     Oakland, CA (11/19)
    1998:     Portland, OR (07/18), Seattle, WA (07/21), Seattle, WA (07/22)
    2000: Bellingham, WA (05/10), Vancouver, BC (05/11), Mountain View, CA (10/31), Portland, OR (11/02), Seattle, WA (11/05), Seattle, WA (11/06)
    2002: Seattle, WA (12/05), Seattle, WA (12/06), Seattle, WA (12/08), Seattle, WA (12/09)
    2003: Vancouver, BC (5/30), Seattle, WA (10/22), 
    2006: Portland, OR (07/20)
    2009: Berlin, DE (08/15), Seattle, WA (9/21), Seattle, WA (9/22)
    2010: Berlin, DE (06/30)
    2013: Los Angeles, CA (11/23), Los Angeles, CA (11/24), Portland, OR (11/29), Spokane, WA (11/30)
    2018: Seattle, WA (08/10)
    2022: Seattle, WA (2/22), New York, NY (9/10), New York, NY (9/11), Camden, NJ (9/14), Denver, CO (9/22)
    2023: St. Paul, MN (8/31), St. Paul, MN (9/02)
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    RatherStarvedRatherStarved Posts: 4,273
    Bonjour Quebec
    PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2
     
    EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.

    Gutted:  London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
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    drakeheuer14drakeheuer14 Posts: 4,397
    JackD. said:
    Yeah, what's the point. They should call it a day and come back strong next year and start the leg with the 4 cancelled shows. How good can tomorrow's show be if today is a straight "not possible". Doubt Ed is back to 100 percent tomorrow.
    Uhh next year? Let’s get this fall tour in…
    Pittsburgh 2013
    Cincinnati 2014
    Greenville 2016
    (Raleigh 2016)
    Columbia 2016
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    gotthebottlegotthebottle San Diego Posts: 2,416
    JimmyV said:
    Not a doctor, but I'm skeptical Ed could be unable to perform tonight but able to perform tomorrow without doing more damage. 
    He wouldn't and shouldn't...
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    JimmyVJimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 18,937
    "All our energies"

    Replacement singer headed to Amsterdam?
    ___________________________________________

    "...I changed by not changing at all..."
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    SpinTheLastExitSpinTheLastExit Edinburgh, Scotland Posts: 398
    drakeheuer14 said:
    JackD. said:
    Yeah, what's the point. They should call it a day and come back strong next year and start the leg with the 4 cancelled shows. How good can tomorrow's show be if today is a straight "not possible". Doubt Ed is back to 100 percent tomorrow.
    Uhh next year? Let’s get this fall tour in…
    I don't think Jack was discounting the fall tour, more talking about a Euro tour next year and including the cancelled dates this year
    2012 – Manchester II
    2014 – Amsterdam I & II, Gdynia, Leeds, Milton Keynes
    2016 – Wrigley I & II
    2017 – Amsterdam III [EV]
    2018 – London I, Padova, Rome, Prague, Krakow, Berlin, Barcelona, Madrid, Wrigley I & II
    2019 – Dublin [EV]
    2022 – Copenhagen, Hyde Park I, St. Louis
    2023 – Chicago I & II
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    TO42596TO42596 The Netherlands Posts: 141
    KM73780 said:
    Seems like it would be in everyone’s best interest to just cancel tomorrow now too ….I dunno 
    This. By now it cannot be any good for Ed to sing tomorrow either...
    2000 London I
    2006 Arnhem & Prague
    2012 Amsterdam I & II / EV Amsterdam II
    2013 Buenos Aires & Wrigley Field / Brad Utrecht / Soundgarden Oslo & Amsterdam
    2014 Amsterdam I & II, Vienna, Berlin & Leeds / Soundgarden Santiago, Utrecht & Tilburg
    2016 MSG I & II, Quebec City, Fenway Park I & II
    2018 Amsterdam I & II, Krakow & Berlin
    2022 Stockholm, Copenhagen, Amsterdam & Toronto
    2023 Austin I & II
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    thomascbullockthomascbullock Posts: 342
    TO42596 said:
    KM73780 said:
    Seems like it would be in everyone’s best interest to just cancel tomorrow now too ….I dunno 
    This. By now it cannot be any good for Ed to sing tomorrow either...
    There are a bunch of rules re: insurance which have as much to do with how this goes as what the band actually wants. Touring is expensive and complicated and it’s entirely possible they are required to get a diagnosis day of in order to pull the gig.
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    Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom's Posts: 17,989
    JimmyV said:
    I'm somehow both stunned but not surprised. Whatever damage was done to Ed is serious and getting scarier with each cancellation. 
    Ev is kind of a perfectionist... My guess is that he could do a 75% show and that just isn't good enough for him 
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Chicago; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
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    Weston1283Weston1283 Fredericksburg, VA Posts: 4,632
    I hate to say it, but it’s been a week since Paris and he’s had 6 nights off.  If there’s that much damage still, there’s no way he’s going to be better in 24 hours.  
    2010: Cleveland
    2012: Atlanta
    2013: London ONT / Wrigley Field / Pittsburgh / Buffalo / San Diego / Los Angeles I / Los Angeles II
    2014: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Detroit / Denver
    2015: New York City
    2016: Ft. Lauderdale / Miami / Jacksonville / Greenville / Hampton / Columbia / Lexington / Philly II / New York City II / Toronto II / Bonnaroo / Telluride / Fenway I / Wrigley I / Wrigley - II / TOTD - Philadelphia, San Francisco
    2017: Ohana Fest (EV)
    2018: Amsterdam I / Amsterdam II / Seattle I / Seattle II / Boston I / Boston II
    2021: Asbury Park / Ohana Encore 1 / Ohana Encore 2
    2022: Phoenix / LA I / LA II / Quebec City / Ottawa / New York City / Camden / Nashville / St. Louis / Denver
    2023: St. Paul II
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    Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom's Posts: 17,989
    JimmyV said:
    "All our energies"

    Replacement singer headed to Amsterdam?
    LOL... No 
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Chicago; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
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    cyrielbuyssecyrielbuysse Posts: 196
    Total disgrace! Understanding for not having a voice, not for cancelling only 4 hours before showtime! Lots of angry people here
    2006 Arnhem - Antwerp - Paris 2007 Nijmegen - Werchter 2009 Rotterdam 2010 Nijmegen - Arras - Werchter 2012 Amsterdam - Werchter - Arras - Berlin 2014 Amsterdam - Berlin - Werchter 2018 Pinkpop - London - Berlin - Werchter - London
    @BelgianPJfan
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    JimmyVJimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 18,937
    Gern Blansten said:
    JimmyV said:
    I'm somehow both stunned but not surprised. Whatever damage was done to Ed is serious and getting scarier with each cancellation. 
    Ev is kind of a perfectionist... My guess is that he could do a 75% show and that just isn't good enough for him 
    We have seen Ed suffer through shows before. I don't think this is the case at all. 
    ___________________________________________

    "...I changed by not changing at all..."
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    RiddledWithMetaphorsRiddledWithMetaphors Posts: 143
    Poor Eddie. His superpower. Must feel so helpless. 
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    heartofadogheartofadog Portland, OR Posts: 352
    thomascbullock said:
    TO42596 said:
    KM73780 said:
    Seems like it would be in everyone’s best interest to just cancel tomorrow now too ….I dunno 
    This. By now it cannot be any good for Ed to sing tomorrow either...
    There are a bunch of rules re: insurance which have as much to do with how this goes as what the band actually wants. Touring is expensive and complicated and it’s entirely possible they are required to get a diagnosis day of in order to pull the gig.
    Yep, although I would assume it would also be fine to have a doctor say he needs X days’ vocal rest. 
    1993: Portland, OR (09/06), Seattle, WA (12/07), Seattle, WA (12/08), Seattle, WA (12/09)
    1995: Seattle, WA (02/05)
    1996: Seattle, WA (09/16)
    1997:     Oakland, CA (11/19)
    1998:     Portland, OR (07/18), Seattle, WA (07/21), Seattle, WA (07/22)
    2000: Bellingham, WA (05/10), Vancouver, BC (05/11), Mountain View, CA (10/31), Portland, OR (11/02), Seattle, WA (11/05), Seattle, WA (11/06)
    2002: Seattle, WA (12/05), Seattle, WA (12/06), Seattle, WA (12/08), Seattle, WA (12/09)
    2003: Vancouver, BC (5/30), Seattle, WA (10/22), 
    2006: Portland, OR (07/20)
    2009: Berlin, DE (08/15), Seattle, WA (9/21), Seattle, WA (9/22)
    2010: Berlin, DE (06/30)
    2013: Los Angeles, CA (11/23), Los Angeles, CA (11/24), Portland, OR (11/29), Spokane, WA (11/30)
    2018: Seattle, WA (08/10)
    2022: Seattle, WA (2/22), New York, NY (9/10), New York, NY (9/11), Camden, NJ (9/14), Denver, CO (9/22)
    2023: St. Paul, MN (8/31), St. Paul, MN (9/02)
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    PeArLgOoNeRPeArLgOoNeR Posts: 1,248
    JimmyV said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    JimmyV said:
    I'm somehow both stunned but not surprised. Whatever damage was done to Ed is serious and getting scarier with each cancellation. 
    Ev is kind of a perfectionist... My guess is that he could do a 75% show and that just isn't good enough for him 
    We have seen Ed suffer through shows before. I don't think this is the case at all. 
    Agree.. he's not always at a 100%

    Hamburg 2000, Berlin 2006, Copenhagen 2007, Berlin 2009, Berlin 2010, Berlin 1+2 2012, Copenhagen 2012, Amsterdam 1+2 2014, Vienna 2014, Berlin 2014, Prague 2018, Krakow 2018
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    JackD.JackD. Posts: 485
    SpinTheLastExit said:
    drakeheuer14 said:
    JackD. said:
    Yeah, what's the point. They should call it a day and come back strong next year and start the leg with the 4 cancelled shows. How good can tomorrow's show be if today is a straight "not possible". Doubt Ed is back to 100 percent tomorrow.
    Uhh next year? Let’s get this fall tour in…
    I don't think Jack was discounting the fall tour, more talking about a Euro tour next year and including the cancelled dates this year
    Exactly!
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    Bears200Bears200 Posts: 1
    Are they still selling merch? In from the US and been in a long line that's not moving. At least we could get some direction on this?
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    jimjam1982jimjam1982 AZ Posts: 1,262
    cyrielbuysse said:
    Total disgrace! Understanding for not having a voice, not for cancelling only 4 hours before showtime! Lots of angry people here
    I get it, it sucks.  I had that first experience of a cancellation back in 2000 (Foo show) and then again this year with the PJ Vegas show.  

    That being said, if folks are angry - just head to the red light district.  Get yourself a girl and a joint. Already got a girl? Add a third wheel. Take the sting out of it.  You will be fine.  Enjoy Amsterdam.
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