Cancellation Notice For Prague

PeArLgOoNeR

I feel bad for everyone involved..! 

I think we all need the Amsterdam shows to take place now, just to know Ed is ok! 🤞

And btw the ENTIRE band seemed to have a fucking blast at the shows I attended! 

heartofadog

A lot of wild speculation here. As the band gets older, the physical toll of touring and how they respond to it will be different. My guess — which is only a guess — is the abbreviated show length was one measure to try and protect everyone's health and sustain them over the course of this tour and make it possible for them to continue touring in the future. Who knows what the deal is with Ed's voice, really. If the official reason is damage from the Paris show, okay. I hope it's nothing more than that, and can be treated, and he recovers. 

All the "mailing it in/other members are tired of it/whatever" speculation doesn't really help anyone and it comes entirely from a place of projected disappointment/frustration. I really hope the fall US leg goes well and that this isn't their last tour, because they really didn't hit many markets where they're beloved, and I selfishly would love a chance to see them at least once or twice more. If for whatever reason this is their last tour, I reckon some folks will feel pretty dumb for bitching about setlist length and variety when there are no more shows to attend, at all.

Maybe best to assume the best intentions of the band/their team, hope for the best for their health, and enjoy the opportunities you do get to see them.

DL136722

I guess I'm missing something because I don't understand when people say physical toll when describing a band that tours. They fly into a city via private jet, stay in a luxury hotel, eat well, sleep in if they choose to, go to sound check, work/play music for a couple of hours and repeat, how's is that physically grueling? If you're talking about the roadies then I get it but as for the actual musicians they're working less than the average person is per day, it's not they're working a 8-10 hr shift, I'm definitely missing something 

DL136722

They haven't toured in 2 full yrs other than Ed squeezing in a solo tour 

KM73780

vito said:

browngw said:

matt84 said:

Did cross my mind that Paris should have been the cancelled show.

Probably paid too much to cancel that one.

Just like adding a festival in Louisville which, now makes my St.Louis show the 3rd in 3 days(when was the last time they played 3 shows in 3 days???) Was it for a big festival pay day?🤔 There was absolutely no resson to add Louisville!

😭 

What a bunch of freaking whiney entitled babies around here 

Merkin Baller

heartofadog said:

A lot of wild speculation here. As the band gets older, the physical toll of touring and how they respond to it will be different. My guess — which is only a guess — is the abbreviated show length was one measure to try and protect everyone's health and sustain them over the course of this tour and make it possible for them to continue touring in the future. Who knows what the deal is with Ed's voice, really. If the official reason is damage from the Paris show, okay. I hope it's nothing more than that, and can be treated, and he recovers. 

All the "mailing it in/other members are tired of it/whatever" speculation doesn't really help anyone and it comes entirely from a place of projected disappointment/frustration. I really hope the fall US leg goes well and that this isn't their last tour, because they really didn't hit many markets where they're beloved, and I selfishly would love a chance to see them at least once or twice more. If for whatever reason this is their last tour, I reckon some folks will feel pretty dumb for bitching about setlist length and variety when there are no more shows to attend, at all.

Maybe best to assume the best intentions of the band/their team, hope for the best for their health, and enjoy the opportunities you do get to see them.

Agreed

I think if I got to a place where I assumed the worst intentions of this band or its individual members, I would probably stop paying dues to be in the fan club, 

KM73780

DL136722 said:

I guess I'm missing something because I don't understand when people say physical toll when describing a band that tours. They fly into a city via private jet, stay in a luxury hotel, eat well, sleep in if they choose to, go to sound check, work/play music for a couple of hours and repeat, how's is that physically grueling? If you're talking about the roadies then I get it but as for the actual musicians they're working less than the average person is per day, it's not they're working a 8-10 hr shift, I'm definitely missing something 

Do you sing and/or play an instrument? If not, please sit down and be quiet. 

DL136722

KM73780 said:

DL136722 said:

I guess I'm missing something because I don't understand when people say physical toll when describing a band that tours. They fly into a city via private jet, stay in a luxury hotel, eat well, sleep in if they choose to, go to sound check, work/play music for a couple of hours and repeat, how's is that physically grueling? If you're talking about the roadies then I get it but as for the actual musicians they're working less than the average person is per day, it's not they're working a 8-10 hr shift, I'm definitely missing something 

Do you sing and/or play an instrument? If not, please sit down and be quiet. 

Good one 👍

PeArLgOoNeR

DL136722 said:

They haven't toured in 2 full yrs other than Ed squeezing in a solo tour 

You come off as extremely judgemental.. 

Merkin Baller

KM73780 said:

DL136722 said:

I guess I'm missing something because I don't understand when people say physical toll when describing a band that tours. They fly into a city via private jet, stay in a luxury hotel, eat well, sleep in if they choose to, go to sound check, work/play music for a couple of hours and repeat, how's is that physically grueling? If you're talking about the roadies then I get it but as for the actual musicians they're working less than the average person is per day, it's not they're working a 8-10 hr shift, I'm definitely missing something 

Do you sing and/or play an instrument? If not, please sit down and be quiet. 

Right? 

At 45yo, having a bass slung over my shoulder & playing it for 1.5 hours multiple nights a week is no walk in the park, and that's just from the comfort of my own home. 

Tim Simmons

I mean, no one is claiming its ditch digging, but if you've been on an active vacation before, you know its not sitting on a beach relaxing.

browngw

PeArLgOoNeR said:

I feel bad for everyone involved..! 

I think we all need the Amsterdam shows to take place now, just to know Ed is ok! 🤞

And btw the ENTIRE band seemed to have a fucking blast at the shows I attended! 

Nope I’m a jerk, if I can’t see my two European shows than no one can see the Amsterdam shows!😂

DL136722

KM73780 said:

DL136722 said:

I guess I'm missing something because I don't understand when people say physical toll when describing a band that tours. They fly into a city via private jet, stay in a luxury hotel, eat well, sleep in if they choose to, go to sound check, work/play music for a couple of hours and repeat, how's is that physically grueling? If you're talking about the roadies then I get it but as for the actual musicians they're working less than the average person is per day, it's not they're working a 8-10 hr shift, I'm definitely missing something 

Do you sing and/or play an instrument? If not, please sit down and be quiet. 

You're saying that playing an instrument for 2.5hrs is grueling, really? Seems a bit dramatic since the Rolling Stones are ancient and they're still plugging away but believe what you'd like, no worries 

KM73780

DL136722 said:

KM73780 said:

DL136722 said:

I guess I'm missing something because I don't understand when people say physical toll when describing a band that tours. They fly into a city via private jet, stay in a luxury hotel, eat well, sleep in if they choose to, go to sound check, work/play music for a couple of hours and repeat, how's is that physically grueling? If you're talking about the roadies then I get it but as for the actual musicians they're working less than the average person is per day, it's not they're working a 8-10 hr shift, I'm definitely missing something 

Do you sing and/or play an instrument? If not, please sit down and be quiet. 

Good one 👍

You’re just a troll. You have no idea what you’re talking about. Have a nice day!

DL136722

KM73780 said:

DL136722 said:

KM73780 said:

DL136722 said:

I guess I'm missing something because I don't understand when people say physical toll when describing a band that tours. They fly into a city via private jet, stay in a luxury hotel, eat well, sleep in if they choose to, go to sound check, work/play music for a couple of hours and repeat, how's is that physically grueling? If you're talking about the roadies then I get it but as for the actual musicians they're working less than the average person is per day, it's not they're working a 8-10 hr shift, I'm definitely missing something 

Do you sing and/or play an instrument? If not, please sit down and be quiet. 

Good one 👍

You’re just a troll. You have no idea what you’re talking about. Have a nice day!

I'm a troll because I simply disagree with you're over dramatic statement? ok, sounds good! 

JimmyV

I walked away for a few minutes and shit has gone off the rails. 

vito

KM73780 

browngw said:

matt84 said:

Did cross my mind that Paris should have been the cancelled show.

Probably paid too much to cancel that one.

Just like adding a festival in Louisville which, now makes my St.Louis show the 3rd in 3 days(when was the last time they played 3 shows in 3 days???) Was it for a big festival pay day?🤔 There was absolutely no resson to add Louisville!

😭 

What a bunch of freaking whiney entitled babies around here =Going to Louisville?😉

DL136722

PeArLgOoNeR said:

DL136722 said:

They haven't toured in 2 full yrs other than Ed squeezing in a solo tour 

You come off as extremely judgemental.. 

They've had two yrs to prepare, they're a veteran band. Does it seem odd to me that EV squeezed in a solo tour before a PJ tour? Yes. Do I think it helped his voice, no. Personally at this stage of their careers, no extra stress is a good thing but agree to disagree 

Sea

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CharlieP

Damn. We’re in Prague. This really sucks. Get Well soon Ed