*** ZURICH 2022 SETLIST THREAD ***

bootlegger10

Weston1283 said:

jimjam1982 said:

Weston1283 said:

jimjam1982 said:

Release 11 said:

Maybe someone is still feeling the aftermath of Covid and thats totaly ok but if thats not the case…… 

Kiss play 23 songs and they are 70 years old with tons of crap on them :-) and Bruce plays +30 songs a nite…

If this is an stamina issue then it’s time to lose the cigarettes and to hit the gym 😉

Rush played 3 hours plus up until the end. 

I dont believe it's stamina or for longevity. It feels like someone in the band doesn't want to do this anymore and it's not Ed. 

Agreed that it’s not Ed.  We could honestly get to a point soon where EV Earthlings shows have longer setlists than PJ shows.  

Edit ^ looks like Earthlings played about 25 a night.  Absolutely crazy.  Something is going on.  

Edit 2 ^ Dirty Frank with the Earthlings is the biggest white whale of 2022 so far.  Again crazy.

I'd rather see an EV + Earthling show then another one of these sets.  Alas, no one is picking up my MSG for 2k premium price with these sets.  If they can't put something together on 9/11 at MSG then its all over.

I am still searching for a ticket for MSG and I would say 400 is my absolute max at this point

I have a GA ticket for MSG and I don’t really feel the need to go.   The reason to go would be to see an amazing PJ show versus their typical average greatness.  Now I think regardless of how awesome the crowd is or where the show is at, you’ll get your 20-23 songs and maybe a rarity if you are lucky.   As of right now based on these sets I will be selling my MSG GA ticket.  Don’t PM as there is already first dibs on it.

Great shows, but not ones I will travel to see 5-8 a year.  Not complaining, just being honest from the perspective of a traveling fan.

Discopij

evenflow82 said:

If the length of show was shortened but there was variety I could come to terms with it.

If the show was long +3 hrs and they played a lot of the same tunes I could come to terms with it.

But short sets with little variety.... I'm not sure how the fans (and band?) can be cool with that and even defend it. Again, if we got to this stage over the course seven to ten years, I would understand, but the whiplash from 2018 to now is stark and consistent.

Bingo

mcgruff10

bootlegger10 said:

Weston1283 said:

jimjam1982 said:

Weston1283 said:

jimjam1982 said:

Release 11 said:

Maybe someone is still feeling the aftermath of Covid and thats totaly ok but if thats not the case…… 

Kiss play 23 songs and they are 70 years old with tons of crap on them :-) and Bruce plays +30 songs a nite…

If this is an stamina issue then it’s time to lose the cigarettes and to hit the gym 😉

Rush played 3 hours plus up until the end. 

I dont believe it's stamina or for longevity. It feels like someone in the band doesn't want to do this anymore and it's not Ed. 

Agreed that it’s not Ed.  We could honestly get to a point soon where EV Earthlings shows have longer setlists than PJ shows.  

Edit ^ looks like Earthlings played about 25 a night.  Absolutely crazy.  Something is going on.  

Edit 2 ^ Dirty Frank with the Earthlings is the biggest white whale of 2022 so far.  Again crazy.

I'd rather see an EV + Earthling show then another one of these sets.  Alas, no one is picking up my MSG for 2k premium price with these sets.  If they can't put something together on 9/11 at MSG then its all over.

I am still searching for a ticket for MSG and I would say 400 is my absolute max at this point

I have a GA ticket for MSG and I don’t really feel the need to go.   The reason to go would be to see an amazing PJ show versus their typical average greatness.  Now I think regardless of how awesome the crowd is or where the show is at, you’ll get your 20-23 songs and maybe a rarity if you are lucky.   As of right now based on these sets I will be selling my MSG GA ticket.  Don’t PM as there is already first dibs on it.

Great shows, but not ones I will travel to see 5-8 a year.  Not complaining, just being honest from the perspective of a traveling fan.

Sad to say but the days of traveling to see pj could be over.  Let me know if you want To sell those msg ga s.  

bootlegger10

mcgruff10 said:

bootlegger10 said:

Weston1283 said:

jimjam1982 said:

Weston1283 said:

jimjam1982 said:

Release 11 said:

Maybe someone is still feeling the aftermath of Covid and thats totaly ok but if thats not the case…… 

Kiss play 23 songs and they are 70 years old with tons of crap on them :-) and Bruce plays +30 songs a nite…

If this is an stamina issue then it’s time to lose the cigarettes and to hit the gym 😉

Rush played 3 hours plus up until the end. 

I dont believe it's stamina or for longevity. It feels like someone in the band doesn't want to do this anymore and it's not Ed. 

Agreed that it’s not Ed.  We could honestly get to a point soon where EV Earthlings shows have longer setlists than PJ shows.  

Edit ^ looks like Earthlings played about 25 a night.  Absolutely crazy.  Something is going on.  

Edit 2 ^ Dirty Frank with the Earthlings is the biggest white whale of 2022 so far.  Again crazy.

I'd rather see an EV + Earthling show then another one of these sets.  Alas, no one is picking up my MSG for 2k premium price with these sets.  If they can't put something together on 9/11 at MSG then its all over.

I am still searching for a ticket for MSG and I would say 400 is my absolute max at this point

I have a GA ticket for MSG and I don’t really feel the need to go.   The reason to go would be to see an amazing PJ show versus their typical average greatness.  Now I think regardless of how awesome the crowd is or where the show is at, you’ll get your 20-23 songs and maybe a rarity if you are lucky.   As of right now based on these sets I will be selling my MSG GA ticket.  Don’t PM as there is already first dibs on it.

Great shows, but not ones I will travel to see 5-8 a year.  Not complaining, just being honest from the perspective of a traveling fan.

Sad to say but the days of traveling to see pj could be over.  Let me know if you want To sell those msg ga s.  

I want Pj Premium dollars for it

yosi

evenflow82 said:

If the length of show was shortened but there was variety I could come to terms with it.

If the show was long +3 hrs and they played a lot of the same tunes I could come to terms with it.

But short sets with little variety.... I'm not sure how the fans (and band?) can be cool with that and even defend it. Again, if we got to this stage over the course seven to ten years, I would understand, but the whiplash from 2018 to now is stark and undeniable.

The end of an era.

100%

Vedder4Prez

Need to get a repub back in the White House. Those were the tours where they played with some grit!

JR86440

bootlegger10 said:

Weston1283 said:

jimjam1982 said:

Weston1283 said:

jimjam1982 said:

Release 11 said:

Maybe someone is still feeling the aftermath of Covid and thats totaly ok but if thats not the case…… 

Kiss play 23 songs and they are 70 years old with tons of crap on them :-) and Bruce plays +30 songs a nite…

If this is an stamina issue then it’s time to lose the cigarettes and to hit the gym 😉

Rush played 3 hours plus up until the end. 

I dont believe it's stamina or for longevity. It feels like someone in the band doesn't want to do this anymore and it's not Ed. 

Agreed that it’s not Ed.  We could honestly get to a point soon where EV Earthlings shows have longer setlists than PJ shows.  

Edit ^ looks like Earthlings played about 25 a night.  Absolutely crazy.  Something is going on.  

Edit 2 ^ Dirty Frank with the Earthlings is the biggest white whale of 2022 so far.  Again crazy.

I'd rather see an EV + Earthling show then another one of these sets.  Alas, no one is picking up my MSG for 2k premium price with these sets.  If they can't put something together on 9/11 at MSG then its all over.

I am still searching for a ticket for MSG and I would say 400 is my absolute max at this point

I have a GA ticket for MSG and I don’t really feel the need to go.   The reason to go would be to see an amazing PJ show versus their typical average greatness.  Now I think regardless of how awesome the crowd is or where the show is at, you’ll get your 20-23 songs and maybe a rarity if you are lucky.   As of right now based on these sets I will be selling my MSG GA ticket.  Don’t PM as there is already first dibs on it.

Great shows, but not ones I will travel to see 5-8 a year.  Not complaining, just being honest from the perspective of a traveling fan.

Yep. I got Apollo tickets from a charity. Not sure if they are playing or not but I don’t want the tickets anymore. I have MSG tickets in 200 section. No desire to go. Saw them in Oakland. That’s enough. Days of traveling multiple times are over. Hit a back to back show but that’s about it.

mcgruff10

bootlegger10 said:

mcgruff10 said:

bootlegger10 said:

Weston1283 said:

jimjam1982 said:

Weston1283 said:

jimjam1982 said:

Release 11 said:

Maybe someone is still feeling the aftermath of Covid and thats totaly ok but if thats not the case…… 

Kiss play 23 songs and they are 70 years old with tons of crap on them :-) and Bruce plays +30 songs a nite…

If this is an stamina issue then it’s time to lose the cigarettes and to hit the gym 😉

Rush played 3 hours plus up until the end. 

I dont believe it's stamina or for longevity. It feels like someone in the band doesn't want to do this anymore and it's not Ed. 

Agreed that it’s not Ed.  We could honestly get to a point soon where EV Earthlings shows have longer setlists than PJ shows.  

Edit ^ looks like Earthlings played about 25 a night.  Absolutely crazy.  Something is going on.  

Edit 2 ^ Dirty Frank with the Earthlings is the biggest white whale of 2022 so far.  Again crazy.

I'd rather see an EV + Earthling show then another one of these sets.  Alas, no one is picking up my MSG for 2k premium price with these sets.  If they can't put something together on 9/11 at MSG then its all over.

I am still searching for a ticket for MSG and I would say 400 is my absolute max at this point

I have a GA ticket for MSG and I don’t really feel the need to go.   The reason to go would be to see an amazing PJ show versus their typical average greatness.  Now I think regardless of how awesome the crowd is or where the show is at, you’ll get your 20-23 songs and maybe a rarity if you are lucky.   As of right now based on these sets I will be selling my MSG GA ticket.  Don’t PM as there is already first dibs on it.

Great shows, but not ones I will travel to see 5-8 a year.  Not complaining, just being honest from the perspective of a traveling fan.

Sad to say but the days of traveling to see pj could be over.  Let me know if you want To sell those msg ga s.  

I want Pj Premium dollars for it

You got it!!

PJammin'

The problem is the standard they set. You can’t go from giving Chicago Bulls Michael Jordan set lists to Washington Wizards Michael Jordan set lists. 🤷‍♂️

Haijay

Holy christ, does anyone have any cheese for all this Whining? Lot of bottom lips hangin out here, wow. Sounds like some have almost lost the will to live. Shall we alert the authorities? Is anyone walking a ledge? Jesus

mcgruff10

Haijay said:

Holy christ, does anyone have any cheese for all this Whining? Lot of bottom lips hangin out here, wow. Sounds like some have almost lost the will to live. Shall we alert the authorities? Is anyone walking a ledge? Jesus

Hyperbole much?

JimmyV

Eh, fan(atics) are often going to be passionate, for good or bad. Reactions seem to be on a wide spectrum and that should be expected. We've seen a drastic reduction in the length of show and pool of songs. It's worth a discussion of why. 

fall by the wayside

Haijay said:

Holy christ, does anyone have any cheese for all this Whining? Lot of bottom lips hangin out here, wow. Sounds like some have almost lost the will to live. Shall we alert the authorities? Is anyone walking a ledge? Jesus

Show us on the doll where the criticism hurt you 

CO278952

Gutted 

Discopij

 Nobody is suggesting the band owes us anything … what most of us are focusing on is the dramatic and sudden change … and that is a fair discussion to have 

PJNB

I am really curious how the Italy set is going to go now. They are usually monsters setwise. 2018 was a 3hr 10min shows and 36 songs. Tonight was 2 songs away from halving that show. 

CP218430

I guess I'm thinking if they were limping to an end they'd give us a Kirk Gibson performance and gut out some final shows. This band doesn't go out with a whimper, it'll be a bang if and when it happens. I get people being upset but they've given us so much, we can give them some patience. I've held onto St. Louis ticks for two years, and I'm going to go. Do I need to hear anything off Ten again, eh - not so much. But that's okay because every time I've seen this band I've been in a special place for as long as they've played. I'll keep going. We've been patient for 2 years and the whiplash is tough but a little more patience is going to pay off. When has this band ever really let us down? 

ddeschler

I'm guessing the full album Riot Act show won't be happening anytime soon? 

PJammin'

ddeschler said:

I'm guessing the full album Riot Act show won't be happening anytime soon?  

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Attaway77

N/A