The Official 2023 Tour Rumor Thread

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  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 7,952
    drfox said:
    I always wonder if it’s just Jeff who doesn’t like touring or if it’s Stone, Mike etc as well. I know it wouldn’t be the same but if it was just one member who wanted a touring break I probably wouldn’t mind them doing what the Killers do and get a temporary touring stand in. I know if wouldn’t be anywhere as good as having the full band, but given everyone isn’t getting any younger, I would take say 4/5ths of the band + more shows, over a 2-3 year touring break.
    Jeff seems to get blamed for it but it seems like that’s not really warranted. 
  • pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 11,951
    I am but I've never seen him live. And I wouldn't spend $250 to see him either.  At this point, I'd have a hard time spending $250/ticket to see Pearl Jam. I've never spent more than $150 and I think that would be my cap for any band at this point. 
    with fees you aren't see many, if any, arena level band for $150 these days.
  • Lost In OhioLost In Ohio Posts: 6,164
    Here's something...or nothing.

    Speaking of Jeff not wanting to tour as much (and I still think that comment was taken slightly out-of-context.) I think he doesn't like the hassle of being on the road and in a different city every night, but I think he likes playing and using the money for good things...and I think the article even mentioned that.

    But anyhoo...a few years ago, there was some talk/rumors that we might see Kim, Ben and Matt tour again or make new music. Obviously, it wouldn't be the Soundgarden name. If it happens, it may not even be the Nude Dragons name.

    AND OBVIOUSLY...there may still be a huge legal situation there with Vicky. (I think that's who it's with. I'll admit I'm not totally current there.)

    If Matt is touring with Pearl Jam, he obviously can't be with Kim and Ben... such as what happened in 2014.

    But if he's not with PJ as much...then maybe is there possibly any chance that the Matt/Kim/Ben thing rides again?

    Perhaps it's something to ponder.

    Or do we think Kim and Ben are done?

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  • NoloadNoload Monticello, GeorgiaPosts: 1,578
    Man this thread has derailed big time. 
    Agreed..only thread that gets eyeballs so chatter must be here. The non rumor talk could go on under other thread titles but...not as many followers. 
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  • devonfzdevonfz Posts: 41
    Pearl Jam is the only band I’ll pay top dollar for… I liked it when ticket prices were like 85 to 125 range and then every ticket in the house was that price dynamic pricing is going to suck balls next tour…
  • hihobibohihobibo Tampa, FLPosts: 921
    Get_Right said:
    drfox said:
    I always wonder if it’s just Jeff who doesn’t like touring or if it’s Stone, Mike etc as well. I know it wouldn’t be the same but if it was just one member who wanted a touring break I probably wouldn’t mind them doing what the Killers do and get a temporary touring stand in. I know if wouldn’t be anywhere as good as having the full band, but given everyone isn’t getting any younger, I would take say 4/5ths of the band + more shows, over a 2-3 year touring break.

    That is not the way they do it. Quality over quantity. I would not pay a nickel to see the band without its founding members.
    Without it's founding guitar players, you mean.  :D
  • I get why people would rather have shows than a new album (as if that is a choice WE could even make) but I personally would rather see a band that is still WORKING and making new music. Once an act fully embraces its legacy status, imo the spark that made them THEM dies. Especially a band like PJ who is constantly changing the setlist, that is where they find the will to still do this, new music, keeping the creativity flowing. Also, there are PJ records I like more and those I like less, but imo they haven't really put out a stinker. Ok, maybe Backspacer, but still, every record has produced welcome additions to the setlist. Otherwise, that Even Flow solo y'all hate so much is gonna hit 15 minutes.
  • raindog80raindog80 Reggio Emilia, ItalyPosts: 952
    I personally would rather see a band that is still WORKING and making new music. 
    I'm with you. 
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  • on2legson2legs Standing in the Jersey rain…Posts: 13,295
    I get why people would rather have shows than a new album (as if that is a choice WE could even make) but I personally would rather see a band that is still WORKING and making new music. Once an act fully embraces its legacy status, imo the spark that made them THEM dies. Especially a band like PJ who is constantly changing the setlist, that is where they find the will to still do this, new music, keeping the creativity flowing. Also, there are PJ records I like more and those I like less, but imo they haven't really put out a stinker. Ok, maybe Backspacer, but still, every record has produced welcome additions to the setlist. Otherwise, that Even Flow solo y'all hate so much is gonna hit 15 minutes.
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  • reyrey Monmouth County, NJPosts: 258
    I get why people would rather have shows than a new album (as if that is a choice WE could even make) but I personally would rather see a band that is still WORKING and making new music. Once an act fully embraces its legacy status, imo the spark that made them THEM dies. Especially a band like PJ who is constantly changing the setlist, that is where they find the will to still do this, new music, keeping the creativity flowing. Also, there are PJ records I like more and those I like less, but imo they haven't really put out a stinker. Ok, maybe Backspacer, but still, every record has produced welcome additions to the setlist. Otherwise, that Even Flow solo y'all hate so much is gonna hit 15 minutes.
    I would replace Backspacer with Gigaton, but otherwise I fully agree with this.  
  • Weston1283Weston1283 Richmond, VAPosts: 4,145
    I am sure to be blasted for this comment, but, IMO, PJ entered legacy status post-covid 
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  • IMO that's hardly a controversial statement. They are a legacy band. But one that isn't just Billy Joel-ing its way to retirement, they are also making new music that, imo at least, is worth hearing
  • Weston1283Weston1283 Richmond, VAPosts: 4,145
    IMO that's hardly a controversial statement. They are a legacy band. But one that isn't just Billy Joel-ing its way to retirement, they are also making new music that, imo at least, is worth hearing
    Agreed.  You can still be a “Legacy” band but put out an album every 5 years or so.

    But the touring, setlists, marketing etc have clearly taken a massive shift to appease the casual fan.  And I think PJ has entered the “I gotta see PJ to cross them off of my concert bucket list before they retire” territory for many, many people who aren’t as crazy as us
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  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 7,796
    I am sure to be blasted for this comment, but, IMO, PJ entered legacy status post-covid 
    I don't disagree with this statement. 
  • RiotAct10RiotAct10 OhioPosts: 1,533
    I know this is a stretch, but looking at the involved artists, I feel like this is something Ed could have been a part of. I am choosing to consider the fact that he isn't involved, as a sign that he may have plans at the time for something else. Maybe???


    words seem so out of place.

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  • raindog80raindog80 Reggio Emilia, ItalyPosts: 952
    RiotAct10 said:
    I know this is a stretch, but looking at the involved artists, I feel like this is something Ed could have been a part of. I am choosing to consider the fact that he isn't involved, as a sign that he may have plans at the time for something else. Maybe???


    words seem so out of place :D 
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  • ddeschlerddeschler Posts: 535
    Would love to see Ed hanging backstage with Snoop and Ziggy Marley...I don't think I could go see "Pearl Jam" if Mike wasn't playing.  You could sub out one of Jeff, Matt or Stone (sorry, Stone) and I'd still go.
    I've seen quite a few Pearl Jam shows.
  • JimmyVJimmyV Boston's MetroWestPosts: 17,244
    RiotAct10 said:
    I know this is a stretch, but looking at the involved artists, I feel like this is something Ed could have been a part of. I am choosing to consider the fact that he isn't involved, as a sign that he may have plans at the time for something else. Maybe???


    Glen Hansard has two random NY dates scheduled for mid-March. Does he come to the U.S. for just two shows? 
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  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 7,952
    I am sure to be blasted for this comment, but, IMO, PJ entered legacy status post-covid 
    What’s this even mean? 
  • on2legson2legs Standing in the Jersey rain…Posts: 13,295
    ddeschler said:
    Would love to see Ed hanging backstage with Snoop and Ziggy Marley.
    Snoop was at the RnRHoF show in 2017 when Pearl Jam was inducted.  He inducted Tupac and performed.  They must have bumped into one another back stage.  
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  • RatherStarvedRatherStarved Posts: 2,715
    Man I saw 30 new comments and was excited there would be a solid rumor.  Nope.  
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  • Go AnimalGo Animal Posts: 2,733
    JimmyV said:
    RiotAct10 said:
    I know this is a stretch, but looking at the involved artists, I feel like this is something Ed could have been a part of. I am choosing to consider the fact that he isn't involved, as a sign that he may have plans at the time for something else. Maybe???


    Glen Hansard has two random NY dates scheduled for mid-March. Does he come to the U.S. for just two shows? 
    This is interesting 
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  • JojoRiceJojoRice Kennesaw, GAPosts: 2,980
    JimmyV said:
    RiotAct10 said:
    I know this is a stretch, but looking at the involved artists, I feel like this is something Ed could have been a part of. I am choosing to consider the fact that he isn't involved, as a sign that he may have plans at the time for something else. Maybe???


    Glen Hansard has two random NY dates scheduled for mid-March. Does he come to the U.S. for just two shows? 
    One of them is a McCartney tribute show.  Maybe he just scheduled a 2nd show for kicks since he knew it would be easy money while he's here?  
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  • JimmyVJimmyV Boston's MetroWestPosts: 17,244
    JojoRice said:
    JimmyV said:
    RiotAct10 said:
    I know this is a stretch, but looking at the involved artists, I feel like this is something Ed could have been a part of. I am choosing to consider the fact that he isn't involved, as a sign that he may have plans at the time for something else. Maybe???


    Glen Hansard has two random NY dates scheduled for mid-March. Does he come to the U.S. for just two shows? 
    One of them is a McCartney tribute show.  Maybe he just scheduled a 2nd show for kicks since he knew it would be easy money while he's here?  
    Totally possible. 
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  • DissidentRival74DissidentRival74 Six One FivePosts: 108
    JimmyV said:
    RiotAct10 said:
    I know this is a stretch, but looking at the involved artists, I feel like this is something Ed could have been a part of. I am choosing to consider the fact that he isn't involved, as a sign that he may have plans at the time for something else. Maybe???


    Glen Hansard has two random NY dates scheduled for mid-March. Does he come to the U.S. for just two shows? 
    For what it's worth, he's playing the Ryman here in Nashville on August 8th...
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  • JimmyVJimmyV Boston's MetroWestPosts: 17,244
    JimmyV said:
    RiotAct10 said:
    I know this is a stretch, but looking at the involved artists, I feel like this is something Ed could have been a part of. I am choosing to consider the fact that he isn't involved, as a sign that he may have plans at the time for something else. Maybe???


    Glen Hansard has two random NY dates scheduled for mid-March. Does he come to the U.S. for just two shows? 
    For what it's worth, he's playing the Ryman here in Nashville on August 8th...
    He has a whole tour in August with Marketa Irglova. We are seeing them in Boston later that week. 
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  • a5pja5pj Hershey PAPosts: 3,672
    drfox said:
    I always wonder if it’s just Jeff who doesn’t like touring or if it’s Stone, Mike etc as well. I know it wouldn’t be the same but if it was just one member who wanted a touring break I probably wouldn’t mind them doing what the Killers do and get a temporary touring stand in. I know if wouldn’t be anywhere as good as having the full band, but given everyone isn’t getting any younger, I would take say 4/5ths of the band + more shows, over a 2-3 year touring break.
    Jeff seems to get blamed for it but it seems like that’s not really warranted. 
    Don't think this is the case.
    Talking with Rob at a RNDM show he said Jeff basically paid for the tour and wasn't making anything, but loved being out there touring. So take that for what it's worth...
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  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 7,952
    a5pj said:
    drfox said:
    I always wonder if it’s just Jeff who doesn’t like touring or if it’s Stone, Mike etc as well. I know it wouldn’t be the same but if it was just one member who wanted a touring break I probably wouldn’t mind them doing what the Killers do and get a temporary touring stand in. I know if wouldn’t be anywhere as good as having the full band, but given everyone isn’t getting any younger, I would take say 4/5ths of the band + more shows, over a 2-3 year touring break.
    Jeff seems to get blamed for it but it seems like that’s not really warranted. 
    Don't think this is the case.
    Talking with Rob at a RNDM show he said Jeff basically paid for the tour and wasn't making anything, but loved being out there touring. So take that for what it's worth...
    Exactly the past situation that came to my mind. “Didn’t he tour with RNDM when he could’ve been snowboarding?”
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon WinnipegPosts: 33,509
    Jeff made that one comment a few years back about not enjoying the grind of touring. But then he also said after the shows were cancelled in 2020 and rebooked in 2022, that he couldn't wait to get back to performing live. like anything, I'm sure it's a love/hate thing, and it all depends on a mood when talking to someone at that moment. 
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon WinnipegPosts: 33,509
    Here's something...or nothing.

    Speaking of Jeff not wanting to tour as much (and I still think that comment was taken slightly out-of-context.) I think he doesn't like the hassle of being on the road and in a different city every night, but I think he likes playing and using the money for good things...and I think the article even mentioned that.

    But anyhoo...a few years ago, there was some talk/rumors that we might see Kim, Ben and Matt tour again or make new music. Obviously, it wouldn't be the Soundgarden name. If it happens, it may not even be the Nude Dragons name.

    AND OBVIOUSLY...there may still be a huge legal situation there with Vicky. (I think that's who it's with. I'll admit I'm not totally current there.)

    If Matt is touring with Pearl Jam, he obviously can't be with Kim and Ben... such as what happened in 2014.

    But if he's not with PJ as much...then maybe is there possibly any chance that the Matt/Kim/Ben thing rides again?

    Perhaps it's something to ponder.

    Or do we think Kim and Ben are done?

    What do Soundgarden fans know here that I don't?
    it would be amazing if the 3 of them worked together again with another vocalist. I would imagine they'd tread that extremely quietly, as to not get expectations up too high. if they ever did anything together again, it wouldn't' surprise me if it was something like 3rd Secret. Just BAM! record released. no promotion. no fanfare. 
    I'm through with screaming...

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