The Official 2023 Tour Rumor Thread

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  • ddeschlerddeschler Posts: 671
    Are Smashing Pumpkins good live these days?  I’ve seen some negative mentions on here of their SHN ‘21 appearance.  Might be fun to make a long weekend of Indy, but only if they don’t suck. 
    I've seen quite a few Pearl Jam shows.
  • PillowPantsPillowPants Posts: 4,877
    Sept 9th is Smashing Pumpkins in Noblesville, In... If PJ is the next nite that could be fun.... 
    fun???  have you seen the pumpkins? 

    it's like night and day seeing the two shows - saw them both at sea hear now and lasted about 8 songs into the pumpkins and decided to go watch grass grow instead ;)

  • JM12271JM12271 Posts: 209
    edited April 2023
    Still hoping beyond hope for a Detroit swing. Cleveland needs some love, too.

    So - 2006 since Cleveland - is that right? Detroit in 2014 - phenomenal.
  • craigraethercraigraether Posts: 1,480
    Sept 9th is Smashing Pumpkins in Noblesville, In... If PJ is the next nite that could be fun.... 
    fun???  have you seen the pumpkins? 

    it's like night and day seeing the two shows - saw them both at sea hear now and lasted about 8 songs into the pumpkins and decided to go watch grass grow instead ;)

    Yes, saw them in 2019, was good.. not like 1991 at the Metro.. but good... 
  • SomethingCreativeSomethingCreative Kazoo, MI Posts: 3,395
    Smashing pumpkins are def worth seeing 
    "Well, I think this band is incapable of sucking."
    -my dad after hearing Not for You for the first time on SNL .
  • Go AnimalGo Animal Posts: 6,117
    Still hoping beyond hope for a Detroit swing. Cleveland needs some love, too.
    I had a lot of hope they'd play Little Caesars Arena, or the amphitheatre... but no sources ever chimed in. Maybe next year!
    PJ - 09/23/98: West Palm Beach II, 08/12/00: Tampa, 04/12/03: Orlando, 04/13/03: Tampa, 06/12/08: Tampa, 06/27/08: Hartford, 09/22/09: Seattle II, 04/11/16: Tampa, 05/01 & 05/02/16: MSG I & II, 09/18/21: Sea Hear Now, 10/01 & 10/02/21: Ohana Encore I & II, 05/06 & 05/07/22: Los Angeles I & II, 09/11/22: MSG, 09/16/22: Nashville, 09/02/23: St. Paul II, 09/07/23: Chicago II, 09/18 & 09/19/23: Austin I & II, 05/16 & 05/18/24: Las Vegas I & II, 08/29 & 08/31/24: Wrigley Field I & II, 09/03 & 09/04/24: MSG I & II, 09/27 & 09/29/24: Ohana Festival I & II

    EV - 08/04 & 08/05/08: (Eddie solo, w/Liam Finn) NYC I & II, 11/27 & 11/28/12: (Eddie solo, w/Glen Hansard) Orlando I & II, 02/09 & 02/10/22: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Chicago I & II, 09/30/23: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Ohana Festival

    Song Wishlist: Oceans, Brother, Alone, Let Me Sleep, full W.M.A., Hold On, Bugs/all of Vitalogy, Gremmie Out Of Control (BAM!), Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), Whale Song (DOUBLE BAM!), The Long Road, Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways, Ghost, Bu$hleaguer, WWS, Parachutes, Army Reserve, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Fatal, Hitchhiker, Education, Black Red Yellow, Of the Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Gonna See My Friend, Amongst the Waves, Santa Cruz, Infallible, Yellow Moon, Alright, Comes Then Goes, Got to Give, and the Mamasan Trilogy.

    Wanted Posters: WPB '98, Tampa/WPB '00, Tampa '03, EV Batmobile '08        ISO: any picks, or setlists from any of my shows!
  • LaFleurLaFleur Posts: 816
    Is 5 cities really "Big Things", still think there's gotta be more going on.  Multiple night 2s also seems strange.  All very odd, hopefully clear soon.
    Barrie - '98
    Toronto - '96, '00, '03, '05, '06, '16, '20, '22
    Ottawa - '16, '20, '22
    Hamilton - '20, '22
  • Lost In OhioLost In Ohio Posts: 7,012
    JM12271 said:
    Still hoping beyond hope for a Detroit swing. Cleveland needs some love, too.

    So - 2006 since Cleveland - is that right? Detroit in 2014 - phenomenal.

    Cleveland had a show in 2010.
    Presidential Advice from President-Elect Mike McCready: "Are you getting something out of this all encompassing trip?"
  • wsimon74wsimon74 Posts: 505
    LaFleur said:
    Is 5 cities really "Big Things", still think there's gotta be more going on.  Multiple night 2s also seems strange.  All very odd, hopefully clear soon.
    This. 

     I'm hoping today was an appetizer for what's to come. Assuming part of the Big Things is the new album, but have to also believe there are more dates yet to be announced/discovered. 
  • Lost In OhioLost In Ohio Posts: 7,012
    Go Animal said:
    Still hoping beyond hope for a Detroit swing. Cleveland needs some love, too.
    I had a lot of hope they'd play Little Caesars Arena, or the amphitheatre... but no sources ever chimed in. Maybe next year!

    Here's what I'm really hoping/thinking
    This tour will be small. No new songs.
    Next year? Get ready. That's when the fun comes back.

    I could be wrong...
    Presidential Advice from President-Elect Mike McCready: "Are you getting something out of this all encompassing trip?"
  • Leezestarr313Leezestarr313 Temple of the cat Posts: 14,374
    Go Animal said:
    Still hoping beyond hope for a Detroit swing. Cleveland needs some love, too.
    I had a lot of hope they'd play Little Caesars Arena, or the amphitheatre... but no sources ever chimed in. Maybe next year!

    Here's what I'm really hoping/thinking
    This tour will be small. No new songs.
    Next year? Get ready. That's when the fun comes back.

    I could be wrong...
    I would not mind that at all. We missed out seeing the new songs live last year because we could only do Baltimore and that was cancelled. I would love to hear some before they vanish into obscurity.

  • JM12271JM12271 Posts: 209
    JM12271 said:
    Still hoping beyond hope for a Detroit swing. Cleveland needs some love, too.

    So - 2006 since Cleveland - is that right? Detroit in 2014 - phenomenal.

    Cleveland had a show in 2010.
    That is right - I saw them in the Cornfield as I live less than a mile from it and didn't want to schlep to Cleveland (where I am from)

  • Doug87Doug87 Posts: 442
    Go Animal said:
    Still hoping beyond hope for a Detroit swing. Cleveland needs some love, too.
    I had a lot of hope they'd play Little Caesars Arena, or the amphitheatre... but no sources ever chimed in. Maybe next year!

    Here's what I'm really hoping/thinking
    This tour will be small. No new songs.
    Next year? Get ready. That's when the fun comes back.

    I could be wrong...
    Yep. That’s what I think as well.
  • jimjam1982jimjam1982 AZ Posts: 1,435
    DEGBTI said:
    logan5ive said:
    I can't be the only person who thinks 2 shows in Ft Worth and Austin isn't very likely.

    I'd like it to be true as I have a free place to stay but just don't see it.
    1 per city is more realistic.
    My source said the 2nd show wasn't a given, but that's the date on hold if they have a 2nd show.
    this
    Let's sell em out fast then. Make em a given.
  • I would not mind that at all. We missed out seeing the new songs live last year because we could only do Baltimore and that was cancelled. I would love to hear some before they vanish into obscurity.

    It is kind of funny to imagine five years from now us watching the setlist threads saying “Wow! Never Destination! Here I thought they were digging deep because they pulled out Sad last night, little did I know…”
  • Lost In OhioLost In Ohio Posts: 7,012
    I would not mind that at all. We missed out seeing the new songs live last year because we could only do Baltimore and that was cancelled. I would love to hear some before they vanish into obscurity.

    It is kind of funny to imagine five years from now us watching the setlist threads saying “Wow! Never Destination! Here I thought they were digging deep because they pulled out Sad last night, little did I know…”

    Look at 1998 vs 1992. Of course, they knew more songs then, but even ones like Garden and Deep became rarities.

    Compare 2003 to 2009. Songs like All or None and Ghost became rarities.
    Presidential Advice from President-Elect Mike McCready: "Are you getting something out of this all encompassing trip?"
  • seanclaxseanclax Posts: 561
    GlowGirl said:
    Manu117 said:
    I assume they will use non-transferrable tickets and have F2F resale again (except for maybe Chicago)?
    Why not Chicago?
    Because Illinois is like New York and Colorado where you can't prohibit transferring tickets. As a result, there may be Chicago tickets for sale on the secondary market, rather than F2F. 

    How would ten club tickets work for Chicago. Would there be a will call 
  • tbergstbergs Posts: 9,932
    BT71946 said:
    Not going to be a stadium for Chi or St Paul baseball teams are playing at home on those dates.
    Austin City Limits is in October.
    Twins are away starting the 31st, but god I hope it's not at Target Field.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • mattcozmattcoz Chicago Posts: 2,220
    GlowGirl said:
    Manu117 said:
    I assume they will use non-transferrable tickets and have F2F resale again (except for maybe Chicago)?
    Why not Chicago?
    Because Illinois is like New York and Colorado where you can't prohibit transferring tickets. As a result, there may be Chicago tickets for sale on the secondary market, rather than F2F. 

    How would ten club tickets work for Chicago. Would there be a will call 

    They work the same as anywhere else.
    1998: East Troy 2000: East Troy, Rosemont 2003: Champaign 2006: Chicago (UC), Milwaukee 2007: Chicago (Lolla) 2009: Chicago (UC), Chicago (UC) 2010: Noblesville 2011: East Troy (PJ20), East Troy (PJ20) 2013: Chicago (WF), Seattle 2014: St. Louis 2016: Chicago (WF), Chicago (WF) 2018: Chicago (WF), Chicago (WF) 2022: St. Louis 2023: Chicago (UC), Chicago (UC) 2024: Chicago (WF), Chicago (WF)
    Coming soon... 2025: Pittsburgh, Pittsburgh
  • WillistonWilliston Minnesota Posts: 53
    PJNB said:
    So people think they are going to announce one date for each city? They are going to announce St Paul on Aug 31st and Chicago Sep 7 and nothing in between? Really?
    If its 2 shows per stop and they do St. Paul 8/31 and 9/2, that gives credibility to Chicago shows on 9/5 and 9/7.
  • WillistonWilliston Minnesota Posts: 53
    PJNB said:
    CopperTom said:
    PJNB said:
    So people think they are going to announce one date for each city? They are going to announce St Paul on Aug 31st and Chicago Sep 7 and nothing in between? Really?
    Could be 1 show announced.  Lottery.  Public sale.  Sell out.  2nd show added.  No lottery.  On sale immediately. Chaos.

    They've done that before too.  No one wants that. 
    There is no public sale anymore though. It is all verified fan. 

    I do not see them leaving a 6 day gap for this tour as part of the ten club lotto. I also do not see there only being 5 shows on the ten club lotto which is what we would be getting if this was the case.
    If they do 2 shows per stop than St. Paul on 8/31 and 9/2, Chicago 9/5 and 9/7, than Indy 9/10 and 9/12, than texas 9/15 and 9/18. Gap isnt crazy
  • aisleseatsaisleseats Posts: 1,462
    Wow, place had really died down when I left this afternoon. Now I come back to 300+ new posts.
    So basically, we just got additional confirmation on all the dates that we've already known about for the past month?
  • seanclaxseanclax Posts: 561
    Wow, place had really died down when I left this afternoon. Now I come back to 300+ new posts.
    So basically, we just got additional confirmation on all the dates that we've already known about for the past month?
    Nobody knew shit a month ago
  • aisleseatsaisleseats Posts: 1,462
    Wow, place had really died down when I left this afternoon. Now I come back to 300+ new posts.
    So basically, we just got additional confirmation on all the dates that we've already known about for the past month?
    Nobody knew shit a month ago
    Really? I'm pretty sure those St Paul, Chicago and Noblesville dates have been swirling around that long. Or maybe I'm just psychic. ;)
  • matt84matt84 Posts: 763
    Really hope there’s some dates before St Paul. Might be visiting the US from the UK in August, so catching a show would be a huge bonus.
  • seanclaxseanclax Posts: 561
    Wow, place had really died down when I left this afternoon. Now I come back to 300+ new posts.
    So basically, we just got additional confirmation on all the dates that we've already known about for the past month?
    Nobody knew shit a month ago
    Really? I'm pretty sure those St Paul, Chicago and Noblesville dates have been swirling around that long. Or maybe I'm just psychic. ;)
    I'd say 2 weeks max.
  • SomethingCreativeSomethingCreative Kazoo, MI Posts: 3,395
    Wow, place had really died down when I left this afternoon. Now I come back to 300+ new posts.
    So basically, we just got additional confirmation on all the dates that we've already known about for the past month?
    Nobody knew shit a month ago
    Really? I'm pretty sure those St Paul, Chicago and Noblesville dates have been swirling around that long. Or maybe I'm just psychic. ;)
    I don’t know who really knew and who was guessing, but chicago in sept and not wrigley has been brought up for months 
    "Well, I think this band is incapable of sucking."
    -my dad after hearing Not for You for the first time on SNL .
  • Pottsy199Pottsy199 Posts: 138
    ddeschler said:
    Are Smashing Pumpkins good live these days?  I’ve seen some negative mentions on here of their SHN ‘21 appearance.  Might be fun to make a long weekend of Indy, but only if they don’t suck. 
    Saw them at UC in Chicago back in November with Jane's Addiction and Dorothy. I thought they sounded good. Cool stage setup.
  • PJNBPJNB Posts: 13,582
    edited April 2023
    Williston said:
    PJNB said:
    CopperTom said:
    PJNB said:
    So people think they are going to announce one date for each city? They are going to announce St Paul on Aug 31st and Chicago Sep 7 and nothing in between? Really?
    Could be 1 show announced.  Lottery.  Public sale.  Sell out.  2nd show added.  No lottery.  On sale immediately. Chaos.

    They've done that before too.  No one wants that. 
    There is no public sale anymore though. It is all verified fan. 

    I do not see them leaving a 6 day gap for this tour as part of the ten club lotto. I also do not see there only being 5 shows on the ten club lotto which is what we would be getting if this was the case.
    If they do 2 shows per stop than St. Paul on 8/31 and 9/2, Chicago 9/5 and 9/7, than Indy 9/10 and 9/12, than texas 9/15 and 9/18. Gap isnt crazy
    That is not what I am saying though. Some people think that since we only got one date leaked per city they will not be announcing all the shows at once whenever they decide to make it public. That would have a tour that initially looks like this. 


    St Paul Aug 31
    Chicago Sep 7
    Noblesville Sep 10 
    FTW Sep 13
    Austin Sep 18

    I am saying I do not see them doing this and keeping the other dates back until after the 10C lotto. 
    Post edited by PJNB on
  • NewfieintheUSANewfieintheUSA Posts: 2,416
    PJNB said:
    Williston said:
    PJNB said:
    CopperTom said:
    PJNB said:
    So people think they are going to announce one date for each city? They are going to announce St Paul on Aug 31st and Chicago Sep 7 and nothing in between? Really?
    Could be 1 show announced.  Lottery.  Public sale.  Sell out.  2nd show added.  No lottery.  On sale immediately. Chaos.

    They've done that before too.  No one wants that. 
    There is no public sale anymore though. It is all verified fan. 

    I do not see them leaving a 6 day gap for this tour as part of the ten club lotto. I also do not see there only being 5 shows on the ten club lotto which is what we would be getting if this was the case.
    If they do 2 shows per stop than St. Paul on 8/31 and 9/2, Chicago 9/5 and 9/7, than Indy 9/10 and 9/12, than texas 9/15 and 9/18. Gap isnt crazy
    That is not what I am saying though. Some people think that since we only got one date leaked per city they will not be announcing all the shows at once whenever they decide to make it public. That would have a tour that initially looks like this. 


    St Paul Aug 31
    Chicago Sep 7
    Noblesville Sep 10 
    FTW Sep 13
    Austin Sep 18

    I am saying I do not see them doing this and keeping the other dates back until after the 10C lotto. 
    Agreed, no way they announce it like this.

    Anyways, I think today is finally the day!
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