I think people need to pump the brakes on expectations this tour. If the rumours are accurate and no shows are added there are going to be a lot of disappointed people here.
5 cities? Can you even call that a tour? I think the disappointment would finally be justified if this happens.
The length of the tour is longer than 2018's and shorter than 2014's by the looks of it. It is Pearl Jam playing shows though and I will take that over them not which a lot of people had them doing this year.
I think people need to pump the brakes on expectations this tour. If the rumours are accurate and no shows are added there are going to be a lot of disappointed people here.
5 cities? Can you even call that a tour? I think the disappointment would finally be justified if this happens.
It was probably a mistake to say “big things are coming” in the email unless actual big things are indeed coming. 5 Midwest cities plus a handful of festivals is not big. Hopefully there’s more to it somehow but the rumors are what they are.
Another reason to keep the MMRBQ possibly going. In previous years they gave out tickets like crazy. Now you only get a pair if you win the Concert Cash contest. Harder to win because they will be in high demand.
No chance. Made in America is much more likely if they are doing a festival. No way MMR could meet their price.
MMR doesn’t have to meet their price to just throw their logos on the show. They can agree with the band to throw a couple opening acts on the bill and that’s it.
why would PJ do that? they can sell out any arena of any size in the Philly area. The teaser video showed Philly skyline. MMRBQ is not in Philly but Camden. the MMRBQ is not happening with PJ. There is about a .000001 % chance of that. Just put that thought completely out of your mind. MIA, Wells Fargo, or CBP are the only logical choices if it's happening at all.
I am not saying they are not playing Philly or Camden but if you look at the video again they have Minneapolis and Indianapolis on it and they are likely playing St Paul and Noblesville. Also same could be said for Dallas.
Philly makes no sense this tour. Driving halfway across the country for a show or two after hitting that area last year while skipping out on the rest of the east coast would be a head scratcher. Maybe if its a fest like MIA but other than that it really makes zero sense.
I think people need to pump the brakes on expectations this tour. If the rumours are accurate and no shows are added there are going to be a lot of disappointed people here.
5 cities? Can you even call that a tour? I think the disappointment would finally be justified if this happens.
I think the only way that is ok is if they announce a full tour is coming next year with new record. (they won't)
Another reason to keep the MMRBQ possibly going. In previous years they gave out tickets like crazy. Now you only get a pair if you win the Concert Cash contest. Harder to win because they will be in high demand.
No chance. Made in America is much more likely if they are doing a festival. No way MMR could meet their price.
MMR doesn’t have to meet their price to just throw their logos on the show. They can agree with the band to throw a couple opening acts on the bill and that’s it.
why would PJ do that? they can sell out any arena of any size in the Philly area. The teaser video showed Philly skyline. MMRBQ is not in Philly but Camden. the MMRBQ is not happening with PJ. There is about a .000001 % chance of that. Just put that thought completely out of your mind. MIA, Wells Fargo, or CBP are the only logical choices if it's happening at all.
I am not saying they are not playing Philly or Camden but if you look at the video again they have Minneapolis and Indianapolis on it and they are likely playing St Paul and Noblesville. Also same could be said for Dallas.
Philly makes no sense this tour. Driving halfway across the country for a show or two after hitting that area last year while skipping out on the rest of the east coast would be a head scratcher. Maybe if its a fest like MIA but other than that it really makes zero sense.
Another reason to keep the MMRBQ possibly going. In previous years they gave out tickets like crazy. Now you only get a pair if you win the Concert Cash contest. Harder to win because they will be in high demand.
No chance. Made in America is much more likely if they are doing a festival. No way MMR could meet their price.
MMR doesn’t have to meet their price to just throw their logos on the show. They can agree with the band to throw a couple opening acts on the bill and that’s it.
why would PJ do that? they can sell out any arena of any size in the Philly area. The teaser video showed Philly skyline. MMRBQ is not in Philly but Camden. the MMRBQ is not happening with PJ. There is about a .000001 % chance of that. Just put that thought completely out of your mind. MIA, Wells Fargo, or CBP are the only logical choices if it's happening at all.
I am not saying they are not playing Philly or Camden but if you look at the video again they have Minneapolis and Indianapolis on it and they are likely playing St Paul and Noblesville. Also same could be said for Dallas.
Philly makes no sense this tour. Driving halfway across the country for a show or two after hitting that area last year while skipping out on the rest of the east coast would be a head scratcher. Maybe if its a fest like MIA but other than that it really makes zero sense.
Another reason to keep the MMRBQ possibly going. In previous years they gave out tickets like crazy. Now you only get a pair if you win the Concert Cash contest. Harder to win because they will be in high demand.
No chance. Made in America is much more likely if they are doing a festival. No way MMR could meet their price.
MMR doesn’t have to meet their price to just throw their logos on the show. They can agree with the band to throw a couple opening acts on the bill and that’s it.
why would PJ do that? they can sell out any arena of any size in the Philly area. The teaser video showed Philly skyline. MMRBQ is not in Philly but Camden. the MMRBQ is not happening with PJ. There is about a .000001 % chance of that. Just put that thought completely out of your mind. MIA, Wells Fargo, or CBP are the only logical choices if it's happening at all.
I am not saying they are not playing Philly or Camden but if you look at the video again they have Minneapolis and Indianapolis on it and they are likely playing St Paul and Noblesville. Also same could be said for Dallas.
Philly makes no sense this tour. Driving halfway across the country for a show or two after hitting that area last year while skipping out on the rest of the east coast would be a head scratcher. Maybe if its a fest like MIA but other than that it really makes zero sense.
exactly. Philly was either a mistake or a festival, or all the rumors about the tour are completely wrong and it is a much bigger tour
Hard to say for sure but definitely looks possible maybe even probable to me
The pavilion in Houston is a closer match than that:
With that said... I personnally think some of those images are just random stock... not everyone is meant to reflect a major city.
There is no way they are playing 18 dates.
More likely this is 8-10 cites, starting in Chicago and finishing at ACL. And ACL does not allow headliners to play should in Dallas / Houston / San Antonio.
8 shows + two ACL gigs will pay their staff for the year.
I don't think I can stomach ACL anymore... I'm in Austin 2 or 3 times a month lately... the city isn't what it used to be... just another major american city now...
Houston, Texas... Believe it or not, there are 7 million people here... must be a couple of fans who'd love to see you play.
I think people need to pump the brakes on expectations this tour. If the rumours are accurate and no shows are added there are going to be a lot of disappointed people here.
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Hard to say for sure but definitely looks possible maybe even probable to me
The pavilion in Houston is a closer match than that:
With that said... I personnally think some of those images are just random stock... not everyone is meant to reflect a major city.
There is no way they are playing 18 dates.
More likely this is 8-10 cites, starting in Chicago and finishing at ACL. And ACL does not allow headliners to play should in Dallas / Houston / San Antonio.
8 shows + two ACL gigs will pay their staff for the year.
I don't think I can stomach ACL anymore... I'm in Austin 2 or 3 times a month lately... the city isn't what it used to be... just another major american city now...
I think it’s probably Moody for Austin, timeline complications and multiple Dallas references indicate Dallas is happening so if ACL would prohibit that then ACL is almost certainly out.
I think people need to pump the brakes on expectations this tour. If the rumours are accurate and no shows are added there are going to be a lot of disappointed people here.
5 cities? Can you even call that a tour? I think the disappointment would finally be justified if this happens.
It was probably a mistake to say “big things are coming” in the email unless actual big things are indeed coming. 5 Midwest cities plus a handful of festivals is not big. Hopefully there’s more to it somehow but the rumors are what they are.
Big things doesn’t have be related to a tour.
Big things can easily be a new album before the end of the year with a large tour to follow in 2024 that may not be announced in 2023.
I'm thinking #2 is an old shot of their 2014 visit to Wuhlheide in Berlin. It's not a stadium. In the vid, there's a guy rigging lights on one of the supports. The beams dont match up with the Houston one.
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I think people need to pump the brakes on expectations this tour. If the rumours are accurate and no shows are added there are going to be a lot of disappointed people here.
5 cities? Can you even call that a tour? I think the disappointment would finally be justified if this happens.
I’m not prepared to say that it is only 5 cities for sure, but it certainly isn’t going to be much more imo.
I will be shocked if it meets or exceeds 10 cities.
Based on past history, I’ll be surprised if they play beyond very late August into very early October (unless doing ACL).
I think people need to pump the brakes on expectations this tour. If the rumours are accurate and no shows are added there are going to be a lot of disappointed people here.
5 cities? Can you even call that a tour? I think the disappointment would finally be justified if this happens.
It was probably a mistake to say “big things are coming” in the email unless actual big things are indeed coming. 5 Midwest cities plus a handful of festivals is not big. Hopefully there’s more to it somehow but the rumors are what they are.
Big things doesn’t have be related to a tour.
Big things can easily be a new album before the end of the year with a large tour to follow in 2024 that may not be announced in 2023.
That would be my guess....new album coming
Kind of odd to tour before a release but they have done that before as well
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I think people need to pump the brakes on expectations this tour. If the rumours are accurate and no shows are added there are going to be a lot of disappointed people here.
5 cities? Can you even call that a tour? I think the disappointment would finally be justified if this happens.
It was probably a mistake to say “big things are coming” in the email unless actual big things are indeed coming. 5 Midwest cities plus a handful of festivals is not big. Hopefully there’s more to it somehow but the rumors are what they are.
Big things doesn’t have be related to a tour.
Big things can easily be a new album before the end of the year with a large tour to follow in 2024 that may not be announced in 2023.
The 28th anniversary of Merkin Ball is in December so could be a lot of hoopla for that
So I'm thinking the United Center is pretty close to Alpine. So I don't think 4 is Alpine. There were rumors about Boston and then Mansfield. Is it the Xfinity center? I wish zooming in can show me a couple or Red Sox hats or something, but I can't make them out. It has a feel for the Xfinity Center though, no?
That’s an interesting thought. Maybe. Certainly was rumored. I’m not familiar enough with the venue to even assess but even so it was hard to tell.
looking like maybe
Minnesota 2 shows
would be 12-14 shows or so total and a month worth of touring
It's very unlikely that Minneapolis gets 2 shows.
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1998: Barrie
2000: Saratoga Springs
2003: Buffalo, Toronto
2005: Kitchener, London, Hamilton, Montreal, Ottawa, Toronto
2006: Toronto x2, Cleveland, Detroit, Pittsburgh, Cincinnati, Gorge #1
2007: London, Dusseldorf, Vic, Lolla
2008: WPB, Tampa, DC, MSG x2, Hartford, Boston x2, Beacon
2009: Toronto, Chicago x2, Seattle x2, LA #3&4, San Diego, Philly x4
2010: Cleveland, Buffalo, Hartford
2011: Montreal, Toronto x2, Hamilton
2012: Missoula
2013: London, Wrigley, Pittsburgh, Buffalo, Hartford, Dallas, OKC
So I'm thinking the United Center is pretty close to Alpine. So I don't think 4 is Alpine. There were rumors about Boston and then Mansfield. Is it the Xfinity center? I wish zooming in can show me a couple or Red Sox hats or something, but I can't make them out. It has a feel for the Xfinity Center though, no?
That’s an interesting thought. Maybe. Certainly was rumored. I’m not familiar enough with the venue to even assess but even so it was hard to tell.
looking like maybe
Minnesota 2 shows
would be 12-14 shows or so total and a month worth of touring
It's very unlikely that Minneapolis gets 2 shows.
I’d normally agree, just found it odd that Lost in Ohio said multiple cities getting 2 nights.
Outside of Chicago, not many cities in that clip that I’d imagine getting two nights so I don’t know.
I think people need to pump the brakes on expectations this tour. If the rumours are accurate and no shows are added there are going to be a lot of disappointed people here.
5 cities? Can you even call that a tour? I think the disappointment would finally be justified if this happens.
I think at this point any thing is considered a tour for them. They play possibly the least amount of shows of any active band that is that big of a draw. Not complaining, but maybe even 5 shows a year would be great rather than skipping whole years
I think people need to pump the brakes on expectations this tour. If the rumours are accurate and no shows are added there are going to be a lot of disappointed people here.
5 cities? Can you even call that a tour? I think the disappointment would finally be justified if this happens.
It was probably a mistake to say “big things are coming” in the email unless actual big things are indeed coming. 5 Midwest cities plus a handful of festivals is not big. Hopefully there’s more to it somehow but the rumors are what they are.
Big things doesn’t have be related to a tour.
Big things can easily be a new album before the end of the year with a large tour to follow in 2024 that may not be announced in 2023.
That would be my guess....new album coming
Kind of odd to tour before a release but they have done that before as well
Maybe looking to give Gigaton it’s due before turning the page given COVID and all the related implications?
I think people need to pump the brakes on expectations this tour. If the rumours are accurate and no shows are added there are going to be a lot of disappointed people here.
5 cities? Can you even call that a tour? I think the disappointment would finally be justified if this happens.
I think at this point any thing is considered a tour for them. They play possibly the least amount of shows of any active band that is that big of a draw. Not complaining, but maybe even 5 shows a year would be great rather than skipping whole years
As a Neil Young fan, let me just say YES! (uses that touring model of smaller series of shows periodically).
So I'm thinking the United Center is pretty close to Alpine. So I don't think 4 is Alpine. There were rumors about Boston and then Mansfield. Is it the Xfinity center? I wish zooming in can show me a couple or Red Sox hats or something, but I can't make them out. It has a feel for the Xfinity Center though, no?
That’s an interesting thought. Maybe. Certainly was rumored. I’m not familiar enough with the venue to even assess but even so it was hard to tell.
looking like maybe
Minnesota 2 shows
would be 12-14 shows or so total and a month worth of touring
It's very unlikely that Minneapolis gets 2 shows.
I’d normally agree, just found it odd that Lost in Ohio said multiple cities getting 2 nights.
Outside of Chicago, not many cities in that clip that I’d imagine getting two nights so I don’t know.
I agree but multiple likely means 2 or 3 given that this is a 12-13 show tour max. We know Chicago is one of them. Philly is likely another if they are playing arena shows there. Who knows what the 3rd could be, if there is one.
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2000: Saratoga Springs
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2005: Kitchener, London, Hamilton, Montreal, Ottawa, Toronto
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2008: WPB, Tampa, DC, MSG x2, Hartford, Boston x2, Beacon
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2010: Cleveland, Buffalo, Hartford
2011: Montreal, Toronto x2, Hamilton
2012: Missoula
2013: London, Wrigley, Pittsburgh, Buffalo, Hartford, Dallas, OKC
I think people need to pump the brakes on expectations this tour. If the rumours are accurate and no shows are added there are going to be a lot of disappointed people here.
5 cities? Can you even call that a tour? I think the disappointment would finally be justified if this happens.
I think at this point any thing is considered a tour for them. They play possibly the least amount of shows of any active band that is that big of a draw. Not complaining, but maybe even 5 shows a year would be great rather than skipping whole years
On that note..........haven't the Red Hot Chili Peppers been on tour for over a year now?
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06.27.98 Alpine Valley 10.08.00 Alpine Valley 09.23.02 Chicago 06.18.03 Chicago | 06.21.03 Alpine Valley 10.03.04 Grand Rapids 10.05.05 Chicago 05.16.06 Chicago | 05.17.06 Chicago | 06.29.06 Milwaukee 08.02.07 Chicago | 08.05.07 Chicago 08.23.09 Chicago | 08.24.09 Chicago 05.07.10 Noblesville | 05.09.10 Cleveland 09.03.11 Alpine Valley | 09.04.11 Alpine Valley 07.19.13 Chicago 10.17.14 Moline 08.20.16 Chicago 08.18.18 Chicago 09.18.22 St. Louis 09.05.23 Chicago
I think people need to pump the brakes on expectations this tour. If the rumours are accurate and no shows are added there are going to be a lot of disappointed people here.
5 cities? Can you even call that a tour? I think the disappointment would finally be justified if this happens.
I think at this point any thing is considered a tour for them. They play possibly the least amount of shows of any active band that is that big of a draw. Not complaining, but maybe even 5 shows a year would be great rather than skipping whole years
On that note..........haven't the Red Hot Chili Peppers been on tour for over a year now?
A massive tour. Scheduled at least through July as of now
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Don't think we get an announcement until next week.
I think I agree.
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Philly makes no sense this tour. Driving halfway across the country for a show or two after hitting that area last year while skipping out on the rest of the east coast would be a head scratcher. Maybe if its a fest like MIA but other than that it really makes zero sense.
The pavilion in Houston is a closer match than that:
With that said... I personnally think some of those images are just random stock... not everyone is meant to reflect a major city.
There is no way they are playing 18 dates.
More likely this is 8-10 cites, starting in Chicago and finishing at ACL. And ACL does not allow headliners to play should in Dallas / Houston / San Antonio.
8 shows + two ACL gigs will pay their staff for the year.
I don't think I can stomach ACL anymore... I'm in Austin 2 or 3 times a month lately... the city isn't what it used to be... just another major american city now...
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Big things can easily be a new album before the end of the year with a large tour to follow in 2024 that may not be announced in 2023.
Based on past history, I’ll be surprised if they play beyond very late August into very early October (unless doing ACL).
Kind of odd to tour before a release but they have done that before as well
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Looks like the only city where they put the specific venue other than Noblesville and they put it in twice (Jordan Statue and side of the UC).
Outside of Chicago, not many cities in that clip that I’d imagine getting two nights so I don’t know.
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08.23.09 Chicago | 08.24.09 Chicago
05.07.10 Noblesville | 05.09.10 Cleveland
09.03.11 Alpine Valley | 09.04.11 Alpine Valley
07.19.13 Chicago
10.17.14 Moline
08.20.16 Chicago
08.18.18 Chicago
09.18.22 St. Louis
09.05.23 Chicago
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10.05.05 Chicago
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08.02.07 Chicago | 08.05.07 Chicago
08.23.09 Chicago | 08.24.09 Chicago
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09.03.11 Alpine Valley | 09.04.11 Alpine Valley
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08.20.16 Chicago
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