Fan to Fan Ticket Exchange

LaFleur

Decent pair for TO currently up, 104 row 14. 

Poncier

gotthebottle said:

Wow...LA1 just dropped a ton of premium on the floor. I'm in section F, 10C tix,  can't imagine people paying those prices. But you never know in LA. It's just sad cause it shows how many tix available to these shows; locals should score on day of or day before when no one has bought these 

But remember it's a "limited number" of PJ Premium.

Limited by venue capacity!

frozen rozen

LaFleur said:

Decent pair for TO currently up, 104 row 14. 

Those went fast!

LaFleur

frozen rozen said:

LaFleur said:

Decent pair for TO currently up, 104 row 14. 

Those went fast!

not as fast as would have gone in 2020...

PJNB

So you can search for Quebec tickets but you can't sell them. You could sell them this morning though. Fun! 

radiorob123

Of course, Fan to Fan goes live when I am broke. I'm only in the market for Nashville or St. Louis though, so I hope I have plenty of time.

NewfieintheUSA

The same 2 Nashville tickets keep showing up over and over again

JojoRice

NewfieintheUSA said:

The same 2 Nashville tickets keep showing up over and over again

Ya we think it's a glitch.  They've been popping up off and on since last night.  Phantom tickets! 

GW2553

What's that LOTR meme?

One does not simply buy Nashville tickets

craigraether

Sacramento is the only hold out not open on the F2F.. if Frenso is any indication GA should be easy for some to get.. Fresno GA would stay up 5-30 minutes 

JojoRice

10C/PJ/TM needs to send out an email and post on social media letting people know that F2F is open.  

aisleseats

JojoRice said:

10C/PJ/TM needs to send out an email and post on social media letting people know that F2F is open.  

Double edged sword. May mean more tickets. But also much more competition.;)

lastchild11

Just listed two for St Louis. Section 307.

wall232

There is a great F2F pair up for Camden that must have been premiums seats. Almost got me at $1600 each. 

cmalisze

JojoRice said:

10C/PJ/TM needs to send out an email and post on social media letting people know that F2F is open.  

Now we expect communication.....haven't we learned any better by now?

danofun

danofun said:

mpedone said:

danofun said:

mpedone said:

I am curious about the need to blame PJ for all of this. To what end? Let's say everyone agrees that this was the band's decision. What then?

It is a free market economy and PJ is solely providing the product we so desperately desire. They have the right to charge whatever they want for a concert ticket. Instead of gouging concert-goers, PJ has historically offered reasonably priced tickets to the 10C and public while remaining a staunch advocate for fan access to reasonably priced tickets.

In 2020, PJ wrote a letter to the Committee on Energy and Commerce opposing the Better Oversight of Secondary Sales and Accountability in Concert Ticketing (BOSS Act). The complete letter can be found here and it opens:

We write to you as one of the biggest touring bands of the last three decades. We also write to you as the working musicians and the MUSIC FANS we were for years before that. We haven't forgotten what it is like to hunger and work so hard to see our favorite bands and as a result, we have worked continuously to ensure our fans can see our shows at a reasonable cost.

WE KNOW HOW TO SERVICE TICKETS TO OUR FANS. Only a few artists in our profession have worked to provide tickets directly to fans. We developed a system for our fan club outside of public sales. For almost thirty years, we have learned from our successes and failures; we have real time experience making sure people buying our tickets actually attend the shows and do not merely sell seats at a markup. We are sympathetic to fans who haven't seen their favorite acts and who mistakenly believe that artists and promoters who are driving prices up through manufactured scarcity.

One of their stated reasons for opossing the bill was becasue it would “blocks non-transferable ticketing”. PJ's primary gripe seemed to be with profiting on the secondary ticket market. In 2020, PJ and TM launched their Fan to Fan ticket soution which promised to keep tickets off the secondary market and relied on tickets remaining non-transferable. It would be difficult to call the 2020 Fan to Fan solution anything but a success.

The rub comes from the apparent about face in 2022. By blocking ticket transfers and Fan to Fan Sales, PJ and TM have succeeded in completely eliminated a secondary market. As we have seen over the past few weeks regarding the east coast shows, plenty of tickets were withheld from the 10C, Verified Fan, and public sales. Additionally, plenty of ticketholders are looking to unload thier in-hand tickets, at face value, but are restricted from doing so. Instead, these withheld, PJ/TM controlled tickets are being sold as "PJ Premium," which come with zero additional perks and are offered at extreme price points.

We are sympathetic to fans who haven't seen their favorite acts and who mistakenly believe that artists and promoters who are driving prices up through manufactured scarcity.

We haven't forgotten what it is like to hunger and work so hard to see our favorite bands and as a result, we have worked continuously to ensure our fans can see our shows at a reasonable cost.

Make no mistake, what we are seeing out of our beloved band and TM is nothing other "manufactured scarcity" and tickets being sold at completely unreasonable costs.

No man for any considerable period can wear one face to himself and another to the multitude, without finally getting bewildered as to which may be the true. - Nathaniel Hawthorne

Okay, so what do you propose to do about it?

Simply opening Fan to Fan would define real world scarcity, reset the TM Premium algorithm, and drop "PJ Premium" tickets to real "market value." Fan to Fan, when run fairly, has the potential to completely transform the ticketing industry. 

While much frustration was rightfully felt, we must acknowledge that Fan to Fan was turned on in a reasonable period of time. May of us feared the fall shows would not go live with Fan to Fan until August, which would have been completely unacceptable. Cheers to those who voiced their opinions, those who quietly waited, and the decision makers for doing the right thing. Happy hunting!!

youknowrobby

?  I’m about to list tickets for Vegas, it’s recommending putting in debit card for refund. An option for regular CC is listed too and this is card I purchased tickets.  I don’t like to list my debit, has anyone else used a reg CC with no issues? Thanks 

craigraether

youknowrobby said:

?  I’m about to list tickets for Vegas, it’s recommending putting in debit card for refund. An option for regular CC is listed too and this is card I purchased tickets.  I don’t like to list my debit, has anyone else used a reg CC with no issues? Thanks 

they can not pay you on a CC.. needs to be debit or bank account ... if it was a refund it would go back to CC

Man.of.Golden.Words

Is anyone getting an error "Some payment options are unavailable for this purchase."  when trying to check out?

Receiving this error when trying to purchase F2F tickets for any show in USA (I'm in Canada).

chitownp76

Question regarding this tax form. If I give ticketmaster my info for tickets im selling under my wifes account is that ok? This whole new process is odd. I made zero dollars on the transaction