Wow...LA1 just dropped a ton of premium on the floor. I'm in section F, 10C tix, can't imagine people paying those prices. But you never know in LA. It's just sad cause it shows how many tix available to these shows; locals should score on day of or day before when no one has bought these
But remember it's a "limited number" of PJ Premium.
Sacramento is the only hold out not open on the F2F.. if Frenso is any indication GA should be easy for some to get.. Fresno GA would stay up 5-30 minutes
Dallas TX 10/17/00
Oklahoma City 4/3/03
Dallas TX 6/9/03
Memphis TN 6/20/09 (Eddie)
Kansas City MO 4/3/10
Little Rock AR 8/28/10 (Eddie, WM3 rally)
St Louis MO 7/1/11 (Eddie)
Dallas TX 11/15/12 (Eddie)
Tulsa OK 11/18/12 (Eddie)
Tulsa OK 11/19/12 (Eddie)
Dallas TX 11/15/13
Oklahoma City 11/16/13 Tulsa OK 10/8/14 St Louis MO 9/18/22 Oklahoma City 9/20/22 Ft Worth TX 9/13/23 Ft Worth TX 9/15/23
I am curious about the need to blame PJ for all of this. To what end? Let's say everyone agrees that this was the band's decision. What then?
It is a free market economy and PJ is solely providing the product we so desperately desire. They have the right to charge whatever they want for a concert ticket. Instead of gouging concert-goers, PJ has historically offered reasonably priced tickets to the 10C and public while remaining a staunch advocate for fan access to reasonably priced tickets.
In 2020, PJ wrote a letter to the Committee on Energy and Commerce opposing the Better Oversight of Secondary Sales and Accountability in Concert Ticketing (BOSS Act). The complete letter can be found here and it opens:
We write to you as one of the biggest touring bands of the last three decades. We also write to you as the working musicians and the MUSIC FANS we were for years before that. We haven't forgotten what it is like to hunger and work so hard to see our favorite bands and as a result, we have worked continuously to ensure our fans can see our shows at a reasonable cost.
WE KNOW HOW TO SERVICE TICKETS TO OUR FANS. Only a few artists in our profession have worked to provide tickets directly to fans. We developed a system for our fan club outside of public sales. For almost thirty years, we have learned from our successes and failures; we have real time experience making sure people buying our tickets actually attend the shows and do not merely sell seats at a markup. We are sympathetic to fans who haven't seen their favorite acts and who mistakenly believe that artists and promoters who are driving prices up through manufactured scarcity.
One of their stated reasons for opossing the bill was becasue it would “blocks non-transferable ticketing”. PJ's primary gripe seemed to be with profiting on the secondary ticket market. In 2020, PJ and TM launched their Fan to Fan ticket soution which promised to keep tickets off the secondary market and relied on tickets remaining non-transferable. It would be difficult to call the 2020 Fan to Fan solution anything but a success.
The rub comes from the apparent about face in 2022. By blocking ticket transfers and Fan to Fan Sales, PJ and TM have succeeded in completely eliminated a secondary market. As we have seen over the past few weeks regarding the east coast shows, plenty of tickets were withheld from the 10C, Verified Fan, and public sales. Additionally, plenty of ticketholders are looking to unload thier in-hand tickets, at face value, but are restricted from doing so. Instead, these withheld, PJ/TM controlled tickets are being sold as "PJ Premium," which come with zero additional perks and are offered at extreme price points.
We are sympathetic to fans who haven't seen their favorite acts and who mistakenly believe that artists and promoters who are driving prices up through manufactured scarcity.
We haven't forgotten what it is like to hunger and work so hard to see our favorite bands and as a result, we have worked continuously to ensure our fans can see our shows at a reasonable cost.
Make no mistake, what we are seeing out of our beloved band and TM is nothing other "manufactured scarcity" and tickets being sold at completely unreasonable costs.
No man for any considerable period can wear one face to himself and another to the multitude, without finally getting bewildered as to which may be the true. - Nathaniel Hawthorne
Okay, so what do you propose to do about it?
Simply opening Fan to Fan would define real world scarcity, reset the TM Premium algorithm, and drop "PJ Premium" tickets to real "market value." Fan to Fan, when run fairly, has the potential to completely transform the ticketing industry.
While much frustration was rightfully felt, we must acknowledge that Fan to Fan was turned on in a reasonable period of time. May of us feared the fall shows would not go live with Fan to Fan until August, which would have been completely unacceptable. Cheers to those who voiced their opinions, those who quietly waited, and the decision makers for doing the right thing. Happy hunting!!
? I’m about to list tickets for Vegas, it’s recommending putting in debit card for refund. An option for regular CC is listed too and this is card I purchased tickets. I don’t like to list my debit, has anyone else used a reg CC with no issues? Thanks
92- Austin
92- Houston
95- Austin
00- Paris
00- Houston
03- San Antonio
06- Milwaukee-Summerfest w/ Tom Petty
07- Lollapalooza - Chicago
08- EV-Solo - Milwaukee
09- Chicago
10- Indy
11- PJ 20
14- Milw
? I’m about to list tickets for Vegas, it’s recommending putting in debit card for refund. An option for regular CC is listed too and this is card I purchased tickets. I don’t like to list my debit, has anyone else used a reg CC with no issues? Thanks
they can not pay you on a CC.. needs to be debit or bank account ... if it was a refund it would go back to CC
Is anyone getting an error "Some payment options are unavailable for this purchase." when trying to check out?
Receiving this error when trying to purchase F2F tickets for any show in USA (I'm in Canada).
Toronto 2003, Hamilton 2005, Toronto 2005, Toronto 1&2 2006, Toronto 2009, Cleveland 2010, Buffalo 2010, Toronto 1&2 2011, Hamilton 2011, Buffalo 2013, Detroit 2014, Moline 2014, St. Paul 2014, Milwaukee 2014, New York City 2015, New York City 1&2 2016, Quebec City 2016, Ottawa 2016, Toronto 1&2 2016, Prague 2018, Krakow 2018, Berlin 2018, Barcelona 2018, Madrid 2018, Chicago 1&2 2018, Los Angeles 1&2 2022, Quebec City 2022, Ottawa 2022, Hamilton 2022, Toronto 2022, Vancouver 1&2 2024, Seattle 1&2 2024, Baltimore 2024
Question regarding this tax form. If I give ticketmaster my info for tickets im selling under my wifes account is that ok? This whole new process is odd. I made zero dollars on the transaction
2014: Moline, IL 2015: EV Solo (Metro Chicago) 2016: Philadelphia PA 1, Philadelphia PA 2, New York City NY- MSG 1, EV Solo (Metro Chicago), Boston MA Fenway 1, Wrigley 1, Wrigley 2 2017: EV Ohana Fest (Dana Point, CA), EV/Pete Townshend Quadrophenia Rosemont, IL 2018: Seattle WA 1, Seattle WA 2, Missoula MT, Wrigley 1, Wrigley 2, Boston MA Fenway 1, Boston MA Fenway 2 2019: EV Tempe, AZ 2020: PPD 2022: EV & Earthlings Chicago 1 & 2, Phoenix AZ, Camden NJ, Nashville TN, St. Louis MO 2023: EV Tempe, AZ, St Paul, MN 2, Chicago 1 & 2 2024: Noblesville, IN, Wrigley 1, Wrigley 2
Question regarding this tax form. If I give ticketmaster my info for tickets im selling under my wifes account is that ok? This whole new process is odd. I made zero dollars on the transaction
That's what I did when I listed my wife's tickets. Screw the IRS!
"I got memories, I got shit"
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Bummed I can't make these but at least I'll see some of y'all in LA.
1993: Portland, OR (09/06), Seattle, WA (12/07), Seattle, WA (12/08), Seattle, WA (12/09) 1995: Seattle, WA (02/05) 1996: Seattle, WA (09/16) 1997: Oakland, CA (11/19) 1998: Portland, OR (07/18), Seattle, WA (07/21), Seattle, WA (07/22) 2000: Bellingham, WA (05/10), Vancouver, BC (05/11), Mountain View, CA (10/31), Portland, OR (11/02), Seattle, WA (11/05), Seattle, WA (11/06) 2002: Seattle, WA (12/05), Seattle, WA (12/06), Seattle, WA (12/08), Seattle, WA (12/09) 2003: Vancouver, BC (05/30), Seattle, WA (10/22) 2005: Quincy, WA (09/01) 2006: Portland, OR (07/20), Quincy, WA (07/22), Quincy, WA (07/23) 2009: Berlin, DE (08/15), Seattle, WA (9/21), Seattle, WA (9/22) 2010: Berlin, DE (06/30) 2013: Los Angeles, CA (11/23), Los Angeles, CA (11/24), Portland, OR (11/29), Spokane, WA (11/30) 2018: Seattle, WA (08/10) 2022: Seattle, WA (02/22), New York, NY (09/10), New York, NY (09/11), Camden, NJ (09/14), Denver, CO (09/22)
2023: St. Paul, MN (08/31), St. Paul, MN (09/02) 2024: Portland, OR (05/10), Sacramento, CA (05/13), Los Angeles, CA (05/21), Los Angeles, CA (05/22), Seattle, WA (05/28)
The same 2 Nashville tickets keep showing up over and over again
I wonder if it’s an issue with the seller’s banking info.
To quote the 10C from Newsletter #8: "Please understand we have a lot of members and it is very hard to please everybody. If you are one of those unhappy people...please call 1-900-IDN-TCAR."
"Me knowing the truth, I can not concur."
1996: Toronto - 1998: Chicago, Montreal, Barrie - 2000: Montreal, Toronto - 2002: Seattle X2 (Key Arena) - 2003: Cleveland, Buffalo, Toronto, Montreal, Seattle (Benaroya Hall) - 2004: Reading, Toledo, Grand Rapids - 2005: Kitchener, London, Hamilton, Montreal, Ottawa, Toronto, Quebec City - 2006: Toronto X2, Albany, Hartford, Grand Rapids, Cleveland - 2007: Chicago (Vic Theatre) - 2008: NYC X2, Hartford, Mansfield X2 - 2009: Toronto, Chicago X2, Seattle X2, Philadelphia X4 - 2010: Columbus, Noblesville, Cleveland, Buffalo, Hartford - 2011: Montreal, Toronto X2, Ottawa, Hamilton - 2012: Missoula - 2013: London, Chicago, Buffalo, Hartford - 2014: Detroit, Moline - 2015: NYC (Global Citizen Festival) - 2016: Greenville, Toronto X2, Chicago 1 - 2017: Brooklyn (RRHOF Induction) - 2018: Chicago 1, Boston 1 - 2022: Fresno, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto, NYC, Camden - 2023: St. Paul X2, Austin X2 - 2024: Vancouver X2, Portland, Sacramento, Missoula, Noblesville, Philadelphia X2, Baltimore
I just put up two on the floor for Ottawa - (reserved seating)
Nothing yet?
To quote the 10C from Newsletter #8: "Please understand we have a lot of members and it is very hard to please everybody. If you are one of those unhappy people...please call 1-900-IDN-TCAR."
"Me knowing the truth, I can not concur."
1996: Toronto - 1998: Chicago, Montreal, Barrie - 2000: Montreal, Toronto - 2002: Seattle X2 (Key Arena) - 2003: Cleveland, Buffalo, Toronto, Montreal, Seattle (Benaroya Hall) - 2004: Reading, Toledo, Grand Rapids - 2005: Kitchener, London, Hamilton, Montreal, Ottawa, Toronto, Quebec City - 2006: Toronto X2, Albany, Hartford, Grand Rapids, Cleveland - 2007: Chicago (Vic Theatre) - 2008: NYC X2, Hartford, Mansfield X2 - 2009: Toronto, Chicago X2, Seattle X2, Philadelphia X4 - 2010: Columbus, Noblesville, Cleveland, Buffalo, Hartford - 2011: Montreal, Toronto X2, Ottawa, Hamilton - 2012: Missoula - 2013: London, Chicago, Buffalo, Hartford - 2014: Detroit, Moline - 2015: NYC (Global Citizen Festival) - 2016: Greenville, Toronto X2, Chicago 1 - 2017: Brooklyn (RRHOF Induction) - 2018: Chicago 1, Boston 1 - 2022: Fresno, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto, NYC, Camden - 2023: St. Paul X2, Austin X2 - 2024: Vancouver X2, Portland, Sacramento, Missoula, Noblesville, Philadelphia X2, Baltimore
Comments
Toronto - '96, '00, '03, '05, '06, '16, '20, '22
Ottawa - '16, '20, '22
Hamilton - '20, '22
8-22-98 Barrie
10-5-00 Toronto
6-28-03 Toronto
9-12-05 London, 9-13-05 Hamilton, 9-19-05 Toronto
5-9-06 Toronto, 5-10-06 Toronto
6-24-08 MSG, 6-25-08 MSG, 8-12-08 EV, 8-13-08 EV
8-21-09 Toronto
5-09-10 Cleveland, 5-10-10 Buffalo
9-3-11 Pj20, 9-4-11 Pj20, 9-11-11 Toronto, 9-12-11 Toronto, 9-15-11 Hamilton
7-16-13 London
10-16-14 Detroit
5-1-16 MSG, 5-2-16 MSG, 5-10-16 Toronto, 5-11-16 Toronto, 8-5-16 Fenway, 8-7-16 Fenway
9-4-18 Fenway
9-3-22 Ottawa, 9-6-22 Hamilton, 9-8-22 Toronto
Toronto - '96, '00, '03, '05, '06, '16, '20, '22
Ottawa - '16, '20, '22
Hamilton - '20, '22
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One does not simply buy Nashville tickets
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Oklahoma City 4/3/03
Dallas TX 6/9/03
Memphis TN 6/20/09 (Eddie)
Kansas City MO 4/3/10
Little Rock AR 8/28/10 (Eddie, WM3 rally)
St Louis MO 7/1/11 (Eddie)
Dallas TX 11/15/12 (Eddie)
Tulsa OK 11/18/12 (Eddie)
Tulsa OK 11/19/12 (Eddie)
Dallas TX 11/15/13
Oklahoma City 11/16/13
Tulsa OK 10/8/14
St Louis MO 9/18/22
Oklahoma City 9/20/22
Ft Worth TX 9/13/23
Ft Worth TX 9/15/23
92- Houston
95- Austin
00- Paris
00- Houston
03- San Antonio
06- Milwaukee-Summerfest w/ Tom Petty
07- Lollapalooza - Chicago
08- EV-Solo - Milwaukee
09- Chicago
10- Indy
11- PJ 20
14- Milw
23- Chicago 2
2015: EV Solo (Metro Chicago)
2016: Philadelphia PA 1, Philadelphia PA 2, New York City NY- MSG 1, EV Solo (Metro Chicago), Boston MA Fenway 1, Wrigley 1, Wrigley 2
2017: EV Ohana Fest (Dana Point, CA), EV/Pete Townshend Quadrophenia Rosemont, IL
2018: Seattle WA 1, Seattle WA 2, Missoula MT, Wrigley 1, Wrigley 2, Boston MA Fenway 1, Boston MA Fenway 2
2019: EV Tempe, AZ
2020: PPD
2022: EV & Earthlings Chicago 1 & 2, Phoenix AZ, Camden NJ, Nashville TN, St. Louis MO
2023: EV Tempe, AZ, St Paul, MN 2, Chicago 1 & 2
2024: Noblesville, IN, Wrigley 1, Wrigley 2
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5/12 — Sec D, row 3, seat 3
5/13 — Sec D, row 6, seat 2
Bummed I can't make these but at least I'll see some of y'all in LA.
1995: Seattle, WA (02/05)
1996: Seattle, WA (09/16)
1997: Oakland, CA (11/19)
1998: Portland, OR (07/18), Seattle, WA (07/21), Seattle, WA (07/22)
2000: Bellingham, WA (05/10), Vancouver, BC (05/11), Mountain View, CA (10/31), Portland, OR (11/02), Seattle, WA (11/05), Seattle, WA (11/06)
2002: Seattle, WA (12/05), Seattle, WA (12/06), Seattle, WA (12/08), Seattle, WA (12/09)
2003: Vancouver, BC (05/30), Seattle, WA (10/22)
2005: Quincy, WA (09/01)
2006: Portland, OR (07/20), Quincy, WA (07/22), Quincy, WA (07/23)
2009: Berlin, DE (08/15), Seattle, WA (9/21), Seattle, WA (9/22)
2010: Berlin, DE (06/30)
2013: Los Angeles, CA (11/23), Los Angeles, CA (11/24), Portland, OR (11/29), Spokane, WA (11/30)
2018: Seattle, WA (08/10)
2022: Seattle, WA (02/22), New York, NY (09/10), New York, NY (09/11), Camden, NJ (09/14), Denver, CO (09/22)
2024: Portland, OR (05/10), Sacramento, CA (05/13), Los Angeles, CA (05/21), Los Angeles, CA (05/22), Seattle, WA (05/28)
There's going to be a lot of folks sitting there come 9/16.
ISO 2016 Greenville shirt. Size medium. PM me if you have one for sale/trade.
ISO 2016 Greenville shirt. Size medium. PM me if you have one for sale/trade.
"Me knowing the truth, I can not concur."
1996: Toronto - 1998: Chicago, Montreal, Barrie - 2000: Montreal, Toronto - 2002: Seattle X2 (Key Arena) - 2003: Cleveland, Buffalo, Toronto, Montreal, Seattle (Benaroya Hall) - 2004: Reading, Toledo, Grand Rapids - 2005: Kitchener, London, Hamilton, Montreal, Ottawa, Toronto, Quebec City - 2006: Toronto X2, Albany, Hartford, Grand Rapids, Cleveland - 2007: Chicago (Vic Theatre) - 2008: NYC X2, Hartford, Mansfield X2 - 2009: Toronto, Chicago X2, Seattle X2, Philadelphia X4 - 2010: Columbus, Noblesville, Cleveland, Buffalo, Hartford - 2011: Montreal, Toronto X2, Ottawa, Hamilton - 2012: Missoula - 2013: London, Chicago, Buffalo, Hartford - 2014: Detroit, Moline - 2015: NYC (Global Citizen Festival) - 2016: Greenville, Toronto X2, Chicago 1 - 2017: Brooklyn (RRHOF Induction) - 2018: Chicago 1, Boston 1 - 2022: Fresno, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto, NYC, Camden - 2023: St. Paul X2, Austin X2 - 2024: Vancouver X2, Portland, Sacramento, Missoula, Noblesville, Philadelphia X2, Baltimore
"Me knowing the truth, I can not concur."
1996: Toronto - 1998: Chicago, Montreal, Barrie - 2000: Montreal, Toronto - 2002: Seattle X2 (Key Arena) - 2003: Cleveland, Buffalo, Toronto, Montreal, Seattle (Benaroya Hall) - 2004: Reading, Toledo, Grand Rapids - 2005: Kitchener, London, Hamilton, Montreal, Ottawa, Toronto, Quebec City - 2006: Toronto X2, Albany, Hartford, Grand Rapids, Cleveland - 2007: Chicago (Vic Theatre) - 2008: NYC X2, Hartford, Mansfield X2 - 2009: Toronto, Chicago X2, Seattle X2, Philadelphia X4 - 2010: Columbus, Noblesville, Cleveland, Buffalo, Hartford - 2011: Montreal, Toronto X2, Ottawa, Hamilton - 2012: Missoula - 2013: London, Chicago, Buffalo, Hartford - 2014: Detroit, Moline - 2015: NYC (Global Citizen Festival) - 2016: Greenville, Toronto X2, Chicago 1 - 2017: Brooklyn (RRHOF Induction) - 2018: Chicago 1, Boston 1 - 2022: Fresno, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto, NYC, Camden - 2023: St. Paul X2, Austin X2 - 2024: Vancouver X2, Portland, Sacramento, Missoula, Noblesville, Philadelphia X2, Baltimore