Pissed off fan

JimmyV

Giving people like me who lost Baltimore tickets priority for this lottery would have only helped people like me who were traveling or were willing to travel for Pearl Jam. It would do nothing for Baltimore locals who lost their show. The only way to make it up to those people is to reschedule the show as soon as possible and offer priority then. 

mattcoz

JimmyV said:

Giving people like me who lost Baltimore tickets priority for this lottery would have only helped people like me who were traveling or were willing to travel for Pearl Jam. It would do nothing for Baltimore locals who lost their show. The only way to make it up to those people is to reschedule the show as soon as possible and offer priority then. 

It was a shitty situation, no ideal way to make it up to everyone.

JimmyV

mattcoz said:

JimmyV said:

Giving people like me who lost Baltimore tickets priority for this lottery would have only helped people like me who were traveling or were willing to travel for Pearl Jam. It would do nothing for Baltimore locals who lost their show. The only way to make it up to those people is to reschedule the show as soon as possible and offer priority then. 

It was a shitty situation, no ideal way to make it up to everyone.

That I agree with. 

RIP my beautiful Baltimore GA tickets. 

Loujoe

^^That's a tough one^^ 

2-feign-reluctance

Hang in there OP! Where there's a will, there's a way!! 

rhinomagic

pbultimate said:

reflected from afar said:

i am still holding out hope for them to come through on their promise that they will do something special for those of us that were still holding bmore tickets as they said when they canceled. would have been nice if this was the special thing, but still hopeful. at the same time, but also... WHY couldn't they just come to dc when they found out bmore was renovating??? they haven't been to dc proper since 2009. and haven't been in the region (other than bmore) since 2010. 

Get in line behind raleigh. 

As a two-time winner at both Raleigh '16 AND Baltimore '20, I feel this on a deeply spiritual level.

smile6680

Cropduster-80 said:

The only solution is will call only and non transferability for fan club seats

The fact people will decide not to go and sell later (even at face value) is just a big of a problem as scalpers.  I’ll never understand why so many people buy tickets to shows they aren’t even reasonably sure they are attending. 

Those unnecessary ticket requests all lessen your chances of getting selected and the fact it isn’t even for profit almost makes it more frustrating. To me at least 

I completely agree. No more transferring tickets and or splitting up a pairs. 

smile6680

josevolution said:

I choose not to enter these lotteries specially for NY,Boston,Philly the chances are always insanely low! I feel better to just let go, it’s not worth the disappointment of not scoring.
I’ve paid my dues since April 93 never let It lapse not once seeing lots of great shows with great seats but these days I just don’t have any interest in the band, So I'm basically paying to post with the hope I’ll use my number one day again to see them but for now I’m good with not seeing them! I feel for those who feel that disappointment I’ve been there but no more..

I somewhat feel the same way. I wish they would do one more tour where sonority mattered. I would take in a show or two and probably cancel my membership after that. That way a couple friends and I could plan on all getting tickets, make a vacation around it and have one last hell of a time together. 

PP193448

Just remember… It’s better to be pissed off, than pissed on!!!!!

drakeheuer14

smile6680 said:

josevolution said:

I choose not to enter these lotteries specially for NY,Boston,Philly the chances are always insanely low! I feel better to just let go, it’s not worth the disappointment of not scoring.
I’ve paid my dues since April 93 never let It lapse not once seeing lots of great shows with great seats but these days I just don’t have any interest in the band, So I'm basically paying to post with the hope I’ll use my number one day again to see them but for now I’m good with not seeing them! I feel for those who feel that disappointment I’ve been there but no more..

I somewhat feel the same way. I wish they would do one more tour where sonority mattered. I would take in a show or two and probably cancel my membership after that. That way a couple friends and I could plan on all getting tickets, make a vacation around it and have one last hell of a time together. 

Seniority does matter when it comes to reserved seating though

JeBurkhardt

PP193448 said:

Just remember… It’s better to be pissed off, than pissed on!!!!!

My Dad used to say that all the time, until a woman he worked with said that it depended on who was pissing on you. He pretty much stopped saying it around her after that. 

washed in black

smile6680 said:

Cropduster-80 said:

The only solution is will call only and non transferability for fan club seats

The fact people will decide not to go and sell later (even at face value) is just a big of a problem as scalpers.  I’ll never understand why so many people buy tickets to shows they aren’t even reasonably sure they are attending. 

Those unnecessary ticket requests all lessen your chances of getting selected and the fact it isn’t even for profit almost makes it more frustrating. To me at least 

I completely agree. No more transferring tickets and or splitting up a pairs. 

As someone who was burned for two pair to Krakow 2018 (husband won, too) I respectfully disagree. We were out $440 since there was no way to transfer them and get a refund. We had to cancel our trip to Poland due to a family emergency. It sucks, but it happens. 

At least with transferability, we could have gotten that $440 back. I recall up until maybe 2006, you were able to contact 10c and transfer your tix to another 10c member. I had won tix to one of the NJ shows, but one of our kids was sick, and I thought I might not be able to go to the show. So, I transferred them into my husband's name, just in case I had to stay home. I'm pretty sure that was the last year you could do that.

Now, I do agree that it's unfair and stupid that people buy tix with no intention of going to the show. If fan 2 fan works well, I think it's a great tool since things can and do come up at the last minute.

CO278952

tschav said:

There will be plenty of Nashville circulating on F2F. Happened back in 2020, and I’m sure lots of people will place theirs back on the market once they realize their high 10c number doesn’t get them a great seat or a friend spots them an extra. Just need a little patience and know at least you won’t pay 3-4x face to get into the stadium.

This is inspirational!  

bootlegger10

JimmyV said:

mattcoz said:

JimmyV said:

Giving people like me who lost Baltimore tickets priority for this lottery would have only helped people like me who were traveling or were willing to travel for Pearl Jam. It would do nothing for Baltimore locals who lost their show. The only way to make it up to those people is to reschedule the show as soon as possible and offer priority then. 

It was a shitty situation, no ideal way to make it up to everyone.

That I agree with. 

RIP my beautiful Baltimore GA tickets. 

In reality, many people had to give up tickets to shows as well just based on the scheduling.  My beautiful GA Oakland tickets are gone. 

Zod

Yah, it's super tough.  I'm guessing the complexity of trying to manually give baltimore people other tickets, or setup priority in the lotto, the system might not be built for it.

It's also tough because for the postponed shows, only so many tickets would of been cancelled and refunded.   So I'm guessing the odds of getting tickets to the postpone shows in densly populated areas would of been supertough?

Hopefully they put in an effort to play there again once the reno is done.

josevolution

smile6680 said:

josevolution said:

I choose not to enter these lotteries specially for NY,Boston,Philly the chances are always insanely low! I feel better to just let go, it’s not worth the disappointment of not scoring.
I’ve paid my dues since April 93 never let It lapse not once seeing lots of great shows with great seats but these days I just don’t have any interest in the band, So I'm basically paying to post with the hope I’ll use my number one day again to see them but for now I’m good with not seeing them! I feel for those who feel that disappointment I’ve been there but no more..

I somewhat feel the same way. I wish they would do one more tour where sonority mattered. I would take in a show or two and probably cancel my membership after that. That way a couple friends and I could plan on all getting tickets, make a vacation around it and have one last hell of a time together. 

That sounds like a plan but I’m of the thought this band will do something special when it’s time to call it over! 

sean9769

pbultimate said:

reflected from afar said:

i am still holding out hope for them to come through on their promise that they will do something special for those of us that were still holding bmore tickets as they said when they canceled. would have been nice if this was the special thing, but still hopeful. at the same time, but also... WHY couldn't they just come to dc when they found out bmore was renovating??? they haven't been to dc proper since 2009. and haven't been in the region (other than bmore) since 2010. 

Get in line behind raleigh. 

I had tix for Raleigh...which became Philly 1.   I had tix for Baltimore ...which became Camden.   Sometimes you just need to regroup and move on vs having a blistered ass.  Look at it this way regarding giving us Baltimore people first crack if they had done such for Camden...If the better part of the people holding tix did so and jumped on that show how do you justify to the people up in the Philly area that there is only lawn remaining and available?  No doubt I get it the lottery can suck sometimes but it is what it is.  Who knows what else they may or may not be doing in 2023 but I think they will make it a point to hit Bmore IF they are playing anywhere. At that time I guarantee some of the same people will be on here then when the lottery fails them.

mpedone

sean9769 said:

pbultimate said:

reflected from afar said:

i am still holding out hope for them to come through on their promise that they will do something special for those of us that were still holding bmore tickets as they said when they canceled. would have been nice if this was the special thing, but still hopeful. at the same time, but also... WHY couldn't they just come to dc when they found out bmore was renovating??? they haven't been to dc proper since 2009. and haven't been in the region (other than bmore) since 2010. 

Get in line behind raleigh. 

I had tix for Raleigh...which became Philly 1.   I had tix for Baltimore ...which became Camden.   Sometimes you just need to regroup and move on vs having a blistered ass.  Look at it this way regarding giving us Baltimore people first crack if they had done such for Camden...If the better part of the people holding tix did so and jumped on that show how do you justify to the people up in the Philly area that there is only lawn remaining and available?  No doubt I get it the lottery can suck sometimes but it is what it is.  Who knows what else they may or may not be doing in 2023 but I think they will make it a point to hit Bmore IF they are playing anywhere. At that time I guarantee some of the same people will be on here then when the lottery fails them.

I don't think it's just that these shows were canceled, it's that the band/club makes promises to make it up to the fans. They promised a make-up show in Raleigh when the law was overturned. It's been overturned for a while now with no make-up show even hinted at. Granted, this is like proving a negative - just because they haven't been back, it doesn't mean they won't be, but it does feel that way. 

cp3iverson

The lottery system is fair.  There’s lots of us and not a lot of shows. I’ve missed out on PJ shows for decades.  It happens.  Life happens.  Supply and demand happens.  It’s no fun but you have to move on.  

I had amazing tickets to an Ed show in 2012 that got cancelled.  He never made up the show.  I moved on lol.  Had to leave a show once right before they took the stage.  Life happens.  Missed out on tickets when they were a mile away from me.  It stung but I still bought the MP3’s. 

Go to a different show.  

Sarava

My family just went 0 for 3 in this lottery. But it's a fair system. It just didn't work out for me this time.  The only thing causing this really is the lack of east coast and midwest shows. Out west people are getting GA on choices past their first choice.  But there's only 4 US shows from St. Louis and eastward. Some people win (good for them), and most of us lose. Try again next tour I guess. It's all good.