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  • demetrios
    demetrios Posts: 97,633
    RS65573 said:
    I want to spin this Friday but need a turn table. Can someone make a recommendation?


  • RS65573
    RS65573 Posts: 2,499
    So I hovered over the Fluance RT85 all morning yesterday, then realized I needed the preamp, so switched to the RT81, but then wanted to run to moms and see what dads looked like.

    From what I can tell, this is a early 70s AR XB - Walnut Finish. Can anyone tell the year?  There is a missing foot on the bottom that makes it out of balance. The screw that is attached to the "deck" (idk what its called) under the top is gone. As is the nut and whatever is inserted into those feet.  I need to measure and make a little prop for the spring and I think I can get it level. I plugged it in, it spins.

    Can anyone tell me if this is worth restoring? I may do it either way since it was dads. Thanks again, you guys are incredibly knowledgeable and I appreciate it. Any links to parts or info would be great, ive done some googling but cant seem much.

    Also dad had a new needle and cartridge and some measuring tools pictured below. Any info greatly appreciated!


  • jpgoegel
    jpgoegel Posts: 415
    that's a beauty of a machine.  simple, and it kicks ass.   if it's all working OK, that's all you should need (if you already have a receiver)
  • dankind
    dankind Posts: 20,841
    Definitely worth restoring!

    Will likely cost a little less than buying a new one, and it should last you another 40 years after that with some basic maintenance. 
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  • on2legs
    on2legs Posts: 15,995
    I vote to fix it.  May cost you some money but then you’ll have a solid turntable that belonged to your Dad!
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  • RS65573
    RS65573 Posts: 2,499
    I think I found the part I need, nice.
    https://vinylnirvana.com/product/upgrade-spring-kit-for-ar-turntables-es-1-eb-101-xa-xb-xe-the-turntable
  • Jimmydean55
    Jimmydean55 Posts: 1,564
    demetrios said:
    RS65573 said:
    I want to spin this Friday but need a turn table. Can someone make a recommendation?


    I hate to admit this, but back when I got my fan club singles that’s exactly what I played them on, haha. Little did I know…
  • Jimmydean55
    Jimmydean55 Posts: 1,564
    Jimmydean55 said:
    demetrios said:
    RS65573 said:
    I want to spin this Friday but need a turn table. Can someone make a recommendation?


    I hate to admit this, but back when I got my first fan club singles around 95, that’s exactly what I played them on, haha. Little did I know…

  • JeBurkhardt
    JeBurkhardt Posts: 5,336
    PJammin said:
    PJammin said:
    tdawe said:
    Has anyone seen any movement on their shipments yet, or is everyone still at the “Label Created” phase?
    Also label created. Still using UPS Mail Innovations (Expedited). 
    Sorry, it says "Shipment Ready for UPS" but no updates after the label was created on 2/4.
    Mine is still saying it this morning. 
  • LukinFan
    LukinFan Florida Posts: 29,119
    RS65573 said:
    I think I found the part I need, nice.
    https://vinylnirvana.com/product/upgrade-spring-kit-for-ar-turntables-es-1-eb-101-xa-xb-xe-the-turntable
    Nice! Like everyone else said, I would recommend trying to restore it. Up until about a month ago, I used my parents-in-law's old turntable from the late 70s for years. It still works great, but I wanted something new so I got an Audio Technica. 
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  • dopazz
    dopazz Posts: 75
    RS65573 said:
    From what I can tell, this is a early 70s AR XB - Walnut Finish. Can anyone tell the year?  There is a missing foot on the bottom that makes it out of balance. The screw that is attached to the "deck" (idk what its called) under the top is gone. As is the nut and whatever is inserted into those feet.  I need to measure and make a little prop for the spring and I think I can get it level. I plugged it in, it spins.

    Can anyone tell me if this is worth restoring? I may do it either way since it was dads. Thanks again, you guys are incredibly knowledgeable and I appreciate it. Any links to parts or info would be great, ive done some googling but cant seem much.

    Also dad had a new needle and cartridge and some measuring tools pictured below. Any info greatly appreciated!

    Yes, I would restore that AR turntable.

    From the photos it appears to be missing the outer platter, which would sit on top of the inner platter that the belt goes around.  Could that be lying around somewhere?

    Belts dryrot and deteriorate over time, you should probably find a new belt.

    The measuring tools are for the cartridge alignment and tracking force adjustment.

    The owners manual can be downloaded for free from the site below, but you'll need to register for a free account.

    https://www.vinylengine.com/library/acoustic-research/xb1.shtml

    Here are some other people's opinions of this turntable.  The lowest rating is 4.5 stars.

    https://www.vinylengine.com/turntable_reviews.php?make=Acoustic+Research&model=XB1

    Here's a snippet of the owners manual showing everything that was included and how it was packed.


  • RS65573
    RS65573 Posts: 2,499
    THANK YOU FOR THE INFORMATION!
    I have the large platter and cover, just the bottom thin wood cover I assume it had is missing. I just bought a new belt which is on the way.
  • mfc2006
    mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,491
    JeBurkhardt said:
    PJammin said:
    PJammin said:
    tdawe said:
    Has anyone seen any movement on their shipments yet, or is everyone still at the “Label Created” phase?
    Also label created. Still using UPS Mail Innovations (Expedited). 
    Sorry, it says "Shipment Ready for UPS" but no updates after the label was created on 2/4.
    Mine is still saying it this morning. 
    Same
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  • CROJAM95
    CROJAM95 Posts: 10,882
    SO much for getting the record this weekend, wasnt that the point?

    MP3 it is
  • mfc2006
    mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,491
    CROJAM95 said:
    SO much for getting the record this weekend, wasnt that the point?

    MP3 it is
    Mail Innovations is terrible and I wish 10c would stop using them. 
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  • mpedone
    mpedone 540xxx - Manchester, NH Posts: 1,961
    CROJAM95 said:
    SO much for getting the record this weekend, wasnt that the point?

    MP3 it is

    Next week is still sooner than August, isn't it?
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  • dopazz
    dopazz Posts: 75
    RS65573 said:
    THANK YOU FOR THE INFORMATION!
    I have the large platter and cover, just the bottom thin wood cover I assume it had is missing. I just bought a new belt which is on the way.
    Yes, here's what the bottom should look like:


  • tdawe
    tdawe Posts: 2,091
    Nothing against the fine people here on this forum, but if you’re looking for help with the restoration project I’d check out the Needles & Grooves board. Extremely knowledgable folks over there (particularly in the Audio Hardware section) and without the snottiness you can run into in other vinyl communities. 

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  • RoleModelsinBlood31
    RoleModelsinBlood31 Austin TX Posts: 6,242
    edited February 2022
    Yeah before I fell off the deep end and dropped 10 grand into my setup, I used a 1970s Dual turntable for years.  They don’t make em like they used to.  Well, unless you drop cash like I did 🤔
    I'm like an opening band for your mom.
  • RoleModelsinBlood31
    RoleModelsinBlood31 Austin TX Posts: 6,242
    tdawe said:
    Nothing against the fine people here on this forum, but if you’re looking for help with the restoration project I’d check out the Needles & Grooves board. Extremely knowledgable folks over there (particularly in the Audio Hardware section) and without the snottiness you can run into in other vinyl communities. 

    I second this.  N&G is solid. Also, if you use Reddit, r/turntables is a huge resource.  Daily threads about old turntable finds and what needs to be done to restore
    I'm like an opening band for your mom.

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