Neil, Joni, Nils, and everyone else who's pulled their music From Spotify

brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,027
edited January 2022 in Other Music
I know Nils often gets lumped  with Neil Young (Rolling Stone sort of did that here) so some may question why another thread here (or the Mods may eventually wan to merge them if more artists get on board with this), but Nils is a musical force in his own right having recorded several albums with his band Grin, as well as several solo albums.  A terrific songwriter and guitarist, and- in my opinion- doing the right thing here.

Nils Lofgren Pulls Music From Spotify in Solidarity With Neil Young

“We encourage all musicians, artists and music lovers everywhere, to stand with us all, and cut ties with Spotify,” guitarist writes

Nils Lofgren has joined Neil Young in removing his music from Spotify to protest the misinformation about vaccines spread by the streaming service’s Joe Rogan Experience.




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  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 8,075
    Starting a "Will Pearl Jam join Nils Lofgren in leaving Spotify?" thread in PJc right now
  • AW124797AW124797 Posts: 669
    Nils who?
  • drakeheuer14drakeheuer14 Posts: 4,467
    AW124797 said:
    Nils who?

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  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 8,075
    You guys really love Joe Rogan, huh. 
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,586
    edited January 2022
    might ask to use this or the other as a possible artists leaving spotify catch all thread? as opposed  to individual  threads, ya know?
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    edited January 2022
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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,027
    AW124797 said:
    Nils who?

    AW124797 said:
    Nils who?


    Seriously?
    How odd that some music fans here are not familiar with Nils Lofgren. 
    Leads me to wondering what else you guys have missed out on.  The amazing Richard Thompson?  Steve Wynn (and the several bands and the 43 albums he has made- and written most of the songs for)?  Slim Dunlap (who's two solo albums are widely praised by fans and critics alike)?  Richard Barone (a man who has worked with everyone from Petula Clark to Donovan to Quincy Jones to Lou Reed, and of course The Bongos)?  Julianna Hatfield (one one America's top song writers who has made over 20 albums and had or been in several bands)?  To name a few greats.
    Just curious.
    mickeyrat said:
    might ask to use this or the other as a pissible artists leaving spotify catch all thread?


    Great idea.
    “The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
    Variously credited to Mark Twain or Edward Abbey.













  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,027
    mickeyrat said:
    might ask to use this or the other as a pissible artists leaving spotify catch all thread?

    I PM'd the idea to Kat.  Good call.
    “The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
    Variously credited to Mark Twain or Edward Abbey.













  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 8,075
    brianlux said:
    AW124797 said:
    Nils who?

    AW124797 said:
    Nils who?


    Seriously?
    At best it’s ignorance, but I really think it’s low key commentary that he is not as significant as Neil or Joni. 
  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,027
    A great place to start with Nils.  I'm diggin' it right now!
    Nils Lofgren - Nils Lofgren - Amazoncom Music

    “The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
    Variously credited to Mark Twain or Edward Abbey.













  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,586
    brianlux said:
    mickeyrat said:
    might ask to use this or the other as a pissible artists leaving spotify catch all thread?

    I PM'd the idea to Kat.  Good call.

    you can edit title you know. its done in the op
    _____________________________________SIGNATURE________________________________________________

    Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,027
    mickeyrat said:
    brianlux said:
    mickeyrat said:
    might ask to use this or the other as a pissible artists leaving spotify catch all thread?

    I PM'd the idea to Kat.  Good call.

    you can edit title you know. its done in the op

    Done! 
    “The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
    Variously credited to Mark Twain or Edward Abbey.













  • AW124797AW124797 Posts: 669
    brianlux said:
    AW124797 said:
    Nils who?

    AW124797 said:
    Nils who?


    Seriously?
    How odd that some music fans here are not familiar with Nils Lofgren. 
    Leads me to wondering what else you guys have missed out on.  The amazing Richard Thompson?  Steve Wynn (and the several bands and the 43 albums he has made- and written most of the songs for)?  Slim Dunlap (who's two solo albums are widely praised by fans and critics alike)?  Richard Barone (a man who has worked with everyone from Petula Clark to Donovan to Quincy Jones to Lou Reed, and of course The Bongos)?  Julianna Hatfield (one one America's top song writers who has made over 20 albums and had or been in several bands)?  To name a few greats.
    Just curious.
    mickeyrat said:
    might ask to use this or the other as a pissible artists leaving spotify catch all thread?


    Great idea.
    On a serious note, I just didn't get a chance to discover him. I'm 37 and got mostly stuck in the 90s-present, but I'll definitely give it a listen. Thanks, Brian.
  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,027
    AW124797 said:
    brianlux said:
    AW124797 said:
    Nils who?

    AW124797 said:
    Nils who?


    Seriously?
    How odd that some music fans here are not familiar with Nils Lofgren. 
    Leads me to wondering what else you guys have missed out on.  The amazing Richard Thompson?  Steve Wynn (and the several bands and the 43 albums he has made- and written most of the songs for)?  Slim Dunlap (who's two solo albums are widely praised by fans and critics alike)?  Richard Barone (a man who has worked with everyone from Petula Clark to Donovan to Quincy Jones to Lou Reed, and of course The Bongos)?  Julianna Hatfield (one one America's top song writers who has made over 20 albums and had or been in several bands)?  To name a few greats.
    Just curious.
    mickeyrat said:
    might ask to use this or the other as a pissible artists leaving spotify catch all thread?


    Great idea.
    On a serious note, I just didn't get a chance to discover him. I'm 37 and got mostly stuck in the 90s-present, but I'll definitely give it a listen. Thanks, Brian.

    Hey, very cool.  That self titled album I posted above is a gem and a great place to start with Nils.  He wrote all but one of the songs, did all the singing (with some back up singing help on a few numbers), and played all the guitar and piano parts.  A really talented and cool cat!
    “The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
    Variously credited to Mark Twain or Edward Abbey.













  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,586
    edited January 2022
    brianlux said:
    AW124797 said:
    brianlux said:
    AW124797 said:
    Nils who?

    AW124797 said:
    Nils who?


    Seriously?
    How odd that some music fans here are not familiar with Nils Lofgren. 
    Leads me to wondering what else you guys have missed out on.  The amazing Richard Thompson?  Steve Wynn (and the several bands and the 43 albums he has made- and written most of the songs for)?  Slim Dunlap (who's two solo albums are widely praised by fans and critics alike)?  Richard Barone (a man who has worked with everyone from Petula Clark to Donovan to Quincy Jones to Lou Reed, and of course The Bongos)?  Julianna Hatfield (one one America's top song writers who has made over 20 albums and had or been in several bands)?  To name a few greats.
    Just curious.
    mickeyrat said:
    might ask to use this or the other as a pissible artists leaving spotify catch all thread?


    Great idea.
    On a serious note, I just didn't get a chance to discover him. I'm 37 and got mostly stuck in the 90s-present, but I'll definitely give it a listen. Thanks, Brian.

    Hey, very cool.  That self titled album I posted above is a gem and a great place to start with Nils.  He wrote all but one of the songs, did all the singing (with some back up singing help on a few numbers), and played all the guitar and piano parts.  A really talented and cool cat!

    didnt he also produce bowie on lets dance?
    ahh that was nole rodgers wasnt it.

    holy fuckbalks dudes been on some shit...



    Post edited by mickeyrat on
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    Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,027
    mickeyrat said:
    brianlux said:
    AW124797 said:
    brianlux said:
    AW124797 said:
    Nils who?

    AW124797 said:
    Nils who?


    Seriously?
    How odd that some music fans here are not familiar with Nils Lofgren. 
    Leads me to wondering what else you guys have missed out on.  The amazing Richard Thompson?  Steve Wynn (and the several bands and the 43 albums he has made- and written most of the songs for)?  Slim Dunlap (who's two solo albums are widely praised by fans and critics alike)?  Richard Barone (a man who has worked with everyone from Petula Clark to Donovan to Quincy Jones to Lou Reed, and of course The Bongos)?  Julianna Hatfield (one one America's top song writers who has made over 20 albums and had or been in several bands)?  To name a few greats.
    Just curious.
    mickeyrat said:
    might ask to use this or the other as a pissible artists leaving spotify catch all thread?


    Great idea.
    On a serious note, I just didn't get a chance to discover him. I'm 37 and got mostly stuck in the 90s-present, but I'll definitely give it a listen. Thanks, Brian.

    Hey, very cool.  That self titled album I posted above is a gem and a great place to start with Nils.  He wrote all but one of the songs, did all the singing (with some back up singing help on a few numbers), and played all the guitar and piano parts.  A really talented and cool cat!

    didnt he also produce bowie on lets dance?
    ahh that was nole rodgers wasnt it.

    holy fuckbalks dudes been on some shit...




    Close, Nile Rogers.  Yes, he did.  Quite the hot guitar player too!
    “The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
    Variously credited to Mark Twain or Edward Abbey.













  • brianlux said:
    I know Nils often gets lumped  with Neil Young (Rolling Stone sort of did that here) so some may question why another thread here (or the Mods may eventually wan to merge them if more artists get on board with this), but Nils is a musical force in his own right having recorded several albums with his band Grin, as well as several solo albums.  A terrific songwriter and guitarist, and- in my opinion- doing the right thing here.

    Nils Lofgren Pulls Music From Spotify in Solidarity With Neil Young

    “We encourage all musicians, artists and music lovers everywhere, to stand with us all, and cut ties with Spotify,” guitarist writes

    Nils Lofgren has joined Neil Young in removing his music from Spotify to protest the misinformation about vaccines spread by the streaming service’s Joe Rogan Experience.




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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,525
    Is there really folks here who don’t know who Nils is damn he’s been playing lead guitar for Springsteen for decades lol and also has a great solo catalog! 
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • Nils is a fucking legend! I hope Spotify sticks around and makes some changes. 
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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,027
    Is there really folks here who don’t know who Nils is damn he’s been playing lead guitar for Springsteen for decades lol and also has a great solo catalog! 
    Holy moly, I forgot to mention his work with The Boss.  Yes!
    Nils is a fucking legend! I hope Spotify sticks around and makes some changes. 
    Truth!

    I just read about this boot which is now considered "official", so I ordered a copy.  What I read of it suggests this is essential Nils:
    Nils Lofgren  Back It Up Nils Lofgren Live An Authorized Bootleg 1975  Vinyl - Discogs

    “The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
    Variously credited to Mark Twain or Edward Abbey.













  • drakeheuer14drakeheuer14 Posts: 4,467

    Pittsburgh 2013
    Cincinnati 2014
    Greenville 2016
    (Raleigh 2016)
    Columbia 2016
  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,027


    Oh that poor band!  :lol: Sorry guys, but this did make me LOL.       :giggle:

    “The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
    Variously credited to Mark Twain or Edward Abbey.













  • goldrushgoldrush Posts: 7,534
    Pete Paphides, the UK journalist, posted this over the weekend:


    “Do not postpone happiness”
    (Jeff Tweedy, Sydney 2007)

    “Put yer good money on the sunrise”
    (Tim Rogers)
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  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 8,075
    edited January 2022
    OK. Lets see how this goes.

    not optimistic tho
    Post edited by Tim Simmons on
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,586

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    Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,586
    edited January 2022
    misread the article nvm
    Post edited by mickeyrat on
    _____________________________________SIGNATURE________________________________________________

    Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 8,075
    pretty limp IMO, but I guess you gotta start somewhere. This won't make anyone happy, but maybe thats the correct move.

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