Joni Mitchell is leaving Spotify

Spiritual_Chaos
Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,476
edited January 2022 in Other Music
Stands in solidaratity with Neil Young and the science community. 



So Joni and Neil.

Silence from Pearl Jam and other artists so far. Hopefully some younger other follow suit before this dies out. Or David Crosby. A young happening artist or David.  
"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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  • eddiec
    eddiec Posts: 3,959
    David needs every .07 cents he gets from Spotify.
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,642
    That’s what’s great about the freedom of choice! Glad she’s standing for what she believes..
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • helplessdancer
    helplessdancer Posts: 5,293
    you gotta stand for something, or you'll fall for anything.
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    Right on Joni.
    Would be great to see Pearl Jam follow suit. 
    It would be particularly great to see some of the younger bands and artist do the same thing.  Activism is not just a boomer thing.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,476
    edited January 2022
    Pearl Jam leaving would have impact. 

    I'm hoping it's due to them being five people having to get on a zoom call and agree on it to make it happen that it hasn't happened yet, and not because of @dankind depressing perspective he sometimes throws out.

    But who knows in the era of Funko pops.
    Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • jerparker20
    jerparker20 St. Paul, MN Posts: 2,529
    So there’s a rumor on the socials that the Foo Fighters will also pull out of Spotify. Nothing to support the claims though.

    More artists should just due to the low pay rate. I read this morning that Spotify pays out approximately $2 per every 1,000 streams to an artist. Apple is around $5 per thousand plays. Amazon Unlimited, which I use, is around $10 per 1,000.
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,476
    edited January 2022
    jerparker20 said:
    So there’s a rumor on the socials that the Foo Fighters will also pull out of Spotify. Nothing to support the claims though.

    More artists should just due to the low pay rate. I read this morning that Spotify pays out approximately $2 per every 1,000 streams to an artist. Apple is around $5 per thousand plays. Amazon Unlimited, which I use, is around $10 per 1,000.


    Don't know how verified it is. 
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Hobbes
    Hobbes Pacific Northwest Posts: 6,438
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Stands in solidaratity with Neil Young and the science community. 



    So Joni and Neil.

    Silence from Pearl Jam and other artists so far. Hopefully some younger other follow suit before this dies out. Or David Crosby. A young happening artist or David.  

  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,476
    edited January 2022
    Is this why it's so quiet from Bobby Boy Dylan and Bruce Springy Springsteen?

    David just want to be Neils friend again. Cute.
    Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,611
    Starting a "Will Pearl Jam join Joni Mitchell in leaving Spotify?" thread in PJc right now
  • nicknyr15
    nicknyr15 Posts: 9,239
    Tim Simmons said:
    Starting a "Will Pearl Jam join Joni Mitchell in leaving Spotify?" thread in PJc right now
    Gold 
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,476
    edited January 2022
    Tim Simmons said:
    Starting a "Will Pearl Jam join Joni Mitchell in leaving Spotify?" thread in PJc right now
    @Sea locked the one on The Porch about this topic in regards to Neil Young.

    Something regarding "thread integrity derailed". Don't know what that means. Delete the posts that are derailing the thread integrity would be my cause of action.

    But maybe a Joni Mitchell thread would not lead to the same derailing by whoever derailed. 
    Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • jerparker20
    jerparker20 St. Paul, MN Posts: 2,529
    edited January 2022
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    jerparker20 said:
    So there’s a rumor on the socials that the Foo Fighters will also pull out of Spotify. Nothing to support the claims though.

    More artists should just due to the low pay rate. I read this morning that Spotify pays out approximately $2 per every 1,000 streams to an artist. Apple is around $5 per thousand plays. Amazon Unlimited, which I use, is around $10 per 1,000.


    Don't know how verified it is. 
    I’ve seen several different pay per stream rates. All seem to vary. The numbers I posted earlier came from an artist based off the checks received from each stream service. Of course, I can’t find the article now. If I come across it, I’ll post a link.

    As for Springsteen, Dylan, and others… I’m guessing when they sold their rights to their catalogs, they may have lost their ability to make such a call. Neil mentioned on the NYA (I believe) that his deal still allowed him a say on how his material is used.
  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,611
    The T-Pain tweet is semi legit. He had the rates per stream listed originally and someone calculated the number of streams and changed his tweet. So while it looks wonky as a photoshop, the info is legit.


    Its funny that Napster changed the world, but stole from artists, and now they compensate artists the most.




  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,611
    The real solution is to buy from bandcamp, they compensate artists the best, plus if its a physical item you buy, you get free DLs in Wav/FLAC/and various sized (your choice) mp3. 


    Every artst should have a bandcamp page.

  • AW124797
    AW124797 Posts: 762
    edited January 2022
    Tim Simmons said:
    Starting a "Will Pearl Jam join Joni Mitchell in leaving Spotify?" thread in PJc right now
    Haha. Yes, please! Fun following same topic at Joni in Other, Neil in Other, Rogan in AMT and Will PJ join Neil in Porch. Always handy to have a spare thread.
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,476
    Tim Simmons said:
    The real solution is to buy from bandcamp, they compensate artists the best, plus if its a physical item you buy, you get free DLs in Wav/FLAC/and various sized (your choice) mp3. 


    Every artst should have a bandcamp page.

    In what way would not the label still be a gatekeeper (maybe the wrong word but whatever) for what the artist gets?
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,476


    www.digitalmusicnews.com
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • mvw
    mvw Posts: 1,700

  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    Tim Simmons said:
    The real solution is to buy from bandcamp, they compensate artists the best, plus if its a physical item you buy, you get free DLs in Wav/FLAC/and various sized (your choice) mp3. 


    Every artst should have a bandcamp page.


    I don't do much digital music except to sample it or play CDs in the car, but from what I know of Bandcamp, they're a fine outfit that supports artists.  That would probably be my go-to if I were into digital formats. 
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

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