Joni Mitchell is leaving Spotify

drakeheuer14

This is so funny. Might as well leave Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, etc as well because Joe Rogan has an account. Leave the US because he lives here. Stop playing live shows anywhere that he has also performed in. Sheesh

Spiritual_Chaos

Also. I would imagine Warner, Sony, Universal etc could get together and make a streaming solution supporting artists better. 

Tidal was to be artist centric - but seems to be beaten by Napster and still seems to not give enough per stream for artists. 

Is the overhead of running the service such that is isn't feasible for artists to make old-fashioned CD-selling money off it. Or what is stopping them?

I'd like to see a service where I can in a nice little piechart everymonth see where my money went. If let's say the service take 30% of the $10 I pay per month. Then for the rest, I would like to see what percentage of my $7 goes to Pearl Jam, Joni Mitchell, Taylor Swift and so on. And if I only listened to Pearl Jam bootlegs for a month my $7 should go in full to them.

Spiritual_Chaos

drakeheuer14 said:

This is so funny. Might as well leave Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, etc as well because Joe Rogan has an account. Leave the US because he lives here. Stop playing live shows anywhere that he has also performed in. Sheesh

That is not why Neil is leaving Spotify. 

So, you seem to be the funny one here. Not understanding why he is leaving Spotify. 

Easy to be ignorant. 

pjl44

Will be hilarious to see some contemporary band get hoodwinked into this only to watch their catalogue stealthily go back up a couple months later 

brianlux

drakeheuer14 said:

This is so funny. Might as well leave Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, etc as well because Joe Rogan has an account. Leave the US because he lives here. Stop playing live shows anywhere that he has also performed in. Sheesh

You forgot the planet.

:eyeroll:

drakeheuer14

Spiritual_Chaos said:

drakeheuer14 said:

This is so funny. Might as well leave Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, etc as well because Joe Rogan has an account. Leave the US because he lives here. Stop playing live shows anywhere that he has also performed in. Sheesh

That is not why Neil is leaving Spotify. 

So, you seem to be the funny one here. Not understanding why he is leaving Spotify. 

Easy to be ignorant. 

Lies are spread everyday, everywhere by so many people. So this little stance if you will is hilarious. 

Where is the block feature again? Maybe they should put you in forum jail again. I didn’t call you funny, ass. 

Spiritual_Chaos

drakeheuer14 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

drakeheuer14 said:

This is so funny. Might as well leave Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, etc as well because Joe Rogan has an account. Leave the US because he lives here. Stop playing live shows anywhere that he has also performed in. Sheesh

That is not why Neil is leaving Spotify. 

So, you seem to be the funny one here. Not understanding why he is leaving Spotify. 

Easy to be ignorant. 

Lies are spread everyday, everywhere by so many people. So this little stance if you will is hilarious. 

Where is the block feature again? Maybe they should put you in forum jail again. I didn’t call you funny, ass. 

I called you funny. But not "ass". You are welcome to call me "ass" though if you want to. I don't mind.

drakeheuer14

Spiritual_Chaos said:

drakeheuer14 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

drakeheuer14 said:

This is so funny. Might as well leave Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, etc as well because Joe Rogan has an account. Leave the US because he lives here. Stop playing live shows anywhere that he has also performed in. Sheesh

That is not why Neil is leaving Spotify. 

So, you seem to be the funny one here. Not understanding why he is leaving Spotify. 

Easy to be ignorant. 

Lies are spread everyday, everywhere by so many people. So this little stance if you will is hilarious. 

Where is the block feature again? Maybe they should put you in forum jail again. I didn’t call you funny, ass. 

I called you funny. But not "ass". You are welcome to call me "ass" though if you want to. I don't mind.

You decided to get personal. Again, can someone refresh my memory on how we block someone? You love to stir up shit and it’s old, 

Tim Simmons

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Tim Simmons said:

The real solution is to buy from bandcamp, they compensate artists the best, plus if its a physical item you buy, you get free DLs in Wav/FLAC/and various sized (your choice) mp3. 


Every artst should have a bandcamp page.

In what way would not the label still be a gatekeeper (maybe the wrong word but whatever) for what the artist gets?

They still are. This benefits people who control their own music better.

Spiritual_Chaos

drakeheuer14 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

drakeheuer14 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

drakeheuer14 said:

This is so funny. Might as well leave Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, etc as well because Joe Rogan has an account. Leave the US because he lives here. Stop playing live shows anywhere that he has also performed in. Sheesh

That is not why Neil is leaving Spotify. 

So, you seem to be the funny one here. Not understanding why he is leaving Spotify. 

Easy to be ignorant. 

Lies are spread everyday, everywhere by so many people. So this little stance if you will is hilarious. 

Where is the block feature again? Maybe they should put you in forum jail again. I didn’t call you funny, ass. 

I called you funny. But not "ass". You are welcome to call me "ass" though if you want to. I don't mind.

You decided to get personal. Again, can someone refresh my memory on how we block someone? You love to stir up shit and it’s old, 

Sheesh

hihobibo

Leaving because the artists are not being compensated fairly is cool. 

Leaving because they want to censor someone else's content is not cool. 

Spiritual_Chaos

hihobibo said:

Leaving because the artists are not being compensated fairly is cool. 

Leaving because they want to censor someone else's content is not cool. 

Do you think full on nazi-content should be allowed on streaming services?

Would you hang around at a party with your red cup, where the host decided to invite nazis? Even paying for their cab fair.

Yes or no?

bootlegger10

Everything has to be a fight or a statement these days.  In a few years will we be at the point where Neil isn't going to speak or write as long as someone else in the world he disagrees with is speaking and writing?   Neil is a whiner.  He needs to realize that we live in a world where people have different opinions and learn to coexist.  Both sides waste so much energy trying to build division.  I'm guessing that Rogan's followers will either stay the same or grow as a result of Neil's whining. 

musicismylife78

bootlegger10 said:

Everything has to be a fight or a statement these days.  In a few years will we be at the point where Neil isn't going to speak or write as long as someone else in the world he disagrees with is speaking and writing?   Neil is a whiner.  He needs to realize that we live in a world where people have different opinions and learn to coexist.  Both sides waste so much energy trying to build division.  I'm guessing that Rogan's followers will either stay the same or grow as a result of Neil's whining. 

musicismylife78

hihobibo said:

Leaving because the artists are not being compensated fairly is cool. 

Leaving because they want to censor someone else's content is not cool. 

Spiritual_Chaos

musicismylife78 said:

hihobibo said:

Leaving because the artists are not being compensated fairly is cool. 

Leaving because they want to censor someone else's content is not cool. 

Do you think full on nazi-content should be allowed on streaming services?

Would you hang around at a party with your red cup, where the host decided to invite nazis? Even paying for their cab fair.

Yes or no?

Cropduster-80

hihobibo said:

Leaving because the artists are not being compensated fairly is cool. 

Leaving because they want to censor someone else's content is not cool. 

Why?

generally I choose to associate myself with people I like. If I don’t want to be around them I leave. It’s the same thing.  

I wouldn’t call it censorship when his show goes on and  Neil walks away.  Both are still in existence just not on the same platform 

bootlegger10

Spiritual_Chaos said:

musicismylife78 said:

hihobibo said:

Leaving because the artists are not being compensated fairly is cool. 

Leaving because they want to censor someone else's content is not cool. 

Do you think full on nazi-content should be allowed on streaming services?

Would you hang around at a party with your red cup, where the host decided to invite nazis? Even paying for their cab fair.

Yes or no?

Disagreeing about vaccines is not even remotely in the same ballpark to nazi-content.   Not even close.  

Spotify isn't a party.  This is a platform where people can go to listen to music, podcasts, etc....  It is a communication platform.   People have the choice of what music and podcasts they want to listen to.   What if Rogan was telling people a year ago that the J&J vaccine wasn't safe for the eldery?  People like you would want him banned from Spotify, even though a year later the CDC discouraged the elderly from using the J&J vaccine.  

pjl44

Godwin's law by page 2

hihobibo

Spiritual_Chaos said:

hihobibo said:

Leaving because the artists are not being compensated fairly is cool. 

Leaving because they want to censor someone else's content is not cool. 

Do you think full on nazi-content should be allowed on streaming services?

Would you hang around at a party with your red cup, where the host decided to invite nazis? Even paying for their cab fair.

Yes or no?


Cropduster-80 said:

Why?

generally I choose to associate myself with people I like. If I don’t want to be around them I leave. It’s the same thing.  

I wouldn’t call it censorship when his show goes on and Neil walks away. Both are still in existence just not on the same platform 

I don't listen to Rogan, so I don't know if you are saying he spouts that type of content, but if you are just using it as an example, then yes, I think people should be able to say whatever they want. 

Would I stay and hang out with them at a party? No. 

But I also wouldn't demand that their landlord evict them for what they say at the party.

Rogan, for example, can say that eating nothing but candy is a great weight loss diet. I can form my own opinion and not believe it. But others may follow his advice. That's up to them to make that choice.

I thought NY's stance was either get rid of Rogan, or get rid of me. He could have said he didn't want to be associated with content provided on Spotify, but instead made an ultimatum for censorship.