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  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 16,914
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    this is the stupidest game of risk in like, forever.

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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,557

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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,668
    mickeyrat said:

    This is first serous war since the world has been truly connected.  And the images are amazing.  That video you posted in the trenches was crazy.  Same with the one where the Russian saboteurs were killed. 
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,557
    edited July 2023
    mrussel1 said:
    mickeyrat said:

    This is first serous war since the world has been truly connected.  And the images are amazing.  That video you posted in the trenches was crazy.  Same with the one where the Russian saboteurs were killed. 

    while fakes and staged videos can be and are most certainly out there, for the most part its real shit that can be used to blow apart official narrative (russian propaganda,  etc..)
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,557

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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,016
    So... cluster bombs OK'd to send to Ukraine. 

    ‘Terrible mistake’: human rights groups decry sending cluster bombs to Ukraine

    Joe Biden faces backlash from organizations and from within his own party for greenlighting transfer of the weapons


    WTF next?  Napalm again?  

    Sad.



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  • benjsbenjs Posts: 9,143
    brianlux said:
    So... cluster bombs OK'd to send to Ukraine. 

    ‘Terrible mistake’: human rights groups decry sending cluster bombs to Ukraine

    Joe Biden faces backlash from organizations and from within his own party for greenlighting transfer of the weapons


    WTF next?  Napalm again?  

    Sad.



    I have to believe Biden’s admin knows better than to give these materials without strict and narrow conditions permitting their use (such as a credible and imminent threat on a nuclear plant). If Ukraine goes out of line, they risk their access to further aid, which would jeopardize their existence.
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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,016
    benjs said:
    brianlux said:
    So... cluster bombs OK'd to send to Ukraine. 

    ‘Terrible mistake’: human rights groups decry sending cluster bombs to Ukraine

    Joe Biden faces backlash from organizations and from within his own party for greenlighting transfer of the weapons


    WTF next?  Napalm again?  

    Sad.



    I have to believe Biden’s admin knows better than to give these materials without strict and narrow conditions permitting their use (such as a credible and imminent threat on a nuclear plant). If Ukraine goes out of line, they risk their access to further aid, which would jeopardize their existence.

    I hope you are correct, Ben.  But when it comes to war, I tend to be skeptical about how these kinds of things are carried out.  These bombs will leave ones that fail to explode- perhaps for several years.  Some kid is going to pick one up and get his or her little self blown to smithereens. 
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,557

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    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,557

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    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,557

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    Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 Posts: 23,303
    brianlux said:
    So... cluster bombs OK'd to send to Ukraine. 

    ‘Terrible mistake’: human rights groups decry sending cluster bombs to Ukraine

    Joe Biden faces backlash from organizations and from within his own party for greenlighting transfer of the weapons


    WTF next?  Napalm again?  

    Sad.



    cluster bombs have already been in use in ukraine, both by russians and ukrainian forces. fair game as far as i'm concerned. if they had not been in use in this conflict before, i would have an issue with it.
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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,016
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    brianlux said:
    So... cluster bombs OK'd to send to Ukraine. 

    ‘Terrible mistake’: human rights groups decry sending cluster bombs to Ukraine

    Joe Biden faces backlash from organizations and from within his own party for greenlighting transfer of the weapons


    WTF next?  Napalm again?  

    Sad.



    cluster bombs have already been in use in ukraine, both by russians and ukrainian forces. fair game as far as i'm concerned. if they had not been in use in this conflict before, i would have an issue with it.

    I didn't know that.  
    War is such dirty business. 
    WWI: (and others) mustard gas
    WWII: Nuclear bombs
    Vietnam:  napalm and god knows what else
    Ukraine:  Cluster bombs

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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,668
    brianlux said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    brianlux said:
    So... cluster bombs OK'd to send to Ukraine. 

    ‘Terrible mistake’: human rights groups decry sending cluster bombs to Ukraine

    Joe Biden faces backlash from organizations and from within his own party for greenlighting transfer of the weapons


    WTF next?  Napalm again?  

    Sad.



    cluster bombs have already been in use in ukraine, both by russians and ukrainian forces. fair game as far as i'm concerned. if they had not been in use in this conflict before, i would have an issue with it.

    I didn't know that.  
    War is such dirty business. 
    WWI: (and others) mustard gas
    WWII: Nuclear bombs
    Vietnam:  napalm and god knows what else
    Ukraine:  Cluster bombs

    WWII - Zyklon B
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,557

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    Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,668
    mickeyrat said:

    Yeah we'll see if Turkey is really their friend. 
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 Posts: 23,303
    mrussel1 said:
    brianlux said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    brianlux said:
    So... cluster bombs OK'd to send to Ukraine. 

    ‘Terrible mistake’: human rights groups decry sending cluster bombs to Ukraine

    Joe Biden faces backlash from organizations and from within his own party for greenlighting transfer of the weapons


    WTF next?  Napalm again?  

    Sad.



    cluster bombs have already been in use in ukraine, both by russians and ukrainian forces. fair game as far as i'm concerned. if they had not been in use in this conflict before, i would have an issue with it.

    I didn't know that.  
    War is such dirty business. 
    WWI: (and others) mustard gas
    WWII: Nuclear bombs
    Vietnam:  napalm and god knows what else
    Ukraine:  Cluster bombs

    WWII - Zyklon B
    iraq war and west bank: white phosphorus
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,016
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    brianlux said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    brianlux said:
    So... cluster bombs OK'd to send to Ukraine. 

    ‘Terrible mistake’: human rights groups decry sending cluster bombs to Ukraine

    Joe Biden faces backlash from organizations and from within his own party for greenlighting transfer of the weapons


    WTF next?  Napalm again?  

    Sad.



    cluster bombs have already been in use in ukraine, both by russians and ukrainian forces. fair game as far as i'm concerned. if they had not been in use in this conflict before, i would have an issue with it.

    I didn't know that.  
    War is such dirty business. 
    WWI: (and others) mustard gas
    WWII: Nuclear bombs
    Vietnam:  napalm and god knows what else
    Ukraine:  Cluster bombs

    WWII - Zyklon B
    iraq war and west bank: white phosphorus
    Depleted uranium munitions.
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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,016
    Could be about all wars:

    "And all the politicians makin' crazy sounds
    And everybody puttin' everybody down
    And all the dead bodies piled up in mounds"
    -Lou Reed

    “The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,557

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    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,557

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    Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,557

    _____________________________________SIGNATURE________________________________________________

    Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,557

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    Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
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