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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662
    That is obviously a very harsh charge. 

    And I’m not convinced he isn’t a traitor. But what is a traitor and what is a change in foreign policy? 

    Hurting Ukraine while awful and not what I want for my America, isn’t really being a traitor is it? 

    A traitor is anyone in U.S. government who turns their back on the pledge they made to uphold the Constitution of The United States.  Trump is a traitor. 
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  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,409
    brianlux said:
    That is obviously a very harsh charge. 

    And I’m not convinced he isn’t a traitor. But what is a traitor and what is a change in foreign policy? 

    Hurting Ukraine while awful and not what I want for my America, isn’t really being a traitor is it? 

    A traitor is anyone in U.S. government who turns their back on the pledge they made to uphold the Constitution of The United States.  Trump is a traitor. 

  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,367
    That is obviously a very harsh charge. 

    And I’m not convinced he isn’t a traitor. But what is a traitor and what is a change in foreign policy? 

    Hurting Ukraine while awful and not what I want for my America, isn’t really being a traitor is it? 

    goes beyond "our" foreign policy. really upends what most countries condiered the correct world order.

    being buddies with Putin is all well and good. Shouldnt we receive something as a nation for the change in relationship? As it stands I havent heard what we stand to gain here.

    Also then looking forward to the change in stance on Cuba since Russia is a friend now.
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,367

    Ukraine found a Musk StarLink module in a Russian 'Geran' unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV). Yet another reason why Musk should have his fellowship with the UK's Royal Society rescinded.

    https://www.defensemirror.com/news/37769
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  • mickeyrat
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    🇺🇦🇺🇸When NATO’s article 5 was invoked for the first time in history after the 9/11, Ukraine NON-NATO ally, deployed to forces Afghanistan. Not because they had to, but in solidarity with the United States.
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  • mickeyrat
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  • mickeyrat
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    Maxar Technologies has cut off Ukraine’s access to its satellite imagery — “Militarnyi” portal

    Ukrainian users of the service received a message stating that access to the services was terminated “by administrative request.”
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,367

    Trump reportedly won’t restore military aid or intelligence sharing with Ukraine — even if Kyiv and Washington strike a deal on mineral resources — NBC News

    He wants Zelensky to cede territory to Russia, take steps toward holding elections, and possibly step down.
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    That is obviously a very harsh charge. 

    And I’m not convinced he isn’t a traitor. But what is a traitor and what is a change in foreign policy? 

    Hurting Ukraine while awful and not what I want for my America, isn’t really being a traitor is it? 
    russia is the enemy of the west. this is well known and well established. trump is cozying up to an enemy. traitor. 
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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,574
    Yep doing Putin’s bidding! 
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,409
    Yep doing Putin’s bidding! 

  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,367

    “Russia will be helpless against a united Europe…It’s striking but it’s true. Right now, 500 million Europeans are begging 300 million Americans for protection from 140 million Russians who have been unable to overcome 50 million Ukrainians for three years.”-Polish President Donald Tusk. SlavaUkraini
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,367

    Nate Vance, a cousin of JD Vance, has been fighting alongside Ukraine as a volunteer in the "Da Vinci Wolves" group, for 2.5 years. His comments on the events in the Oval Office:

    "I thought it was just a political strategy. But what they did to Zelensky was a dishonest ambush. (...)
    Just because we're related doesn't mean that I'm going to accept you helping to kill my comrades."

    Source: Le Figaro
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  • BF25394
    BF25394 Posts: 4,939
    mickeyrat said:

    “Russia will be helpless against a united Europe…It’s striking but it’s true. Right now, 500 million Europeans are begging 300 million Americans for protection from 140 million Russians who have been unable to overcome 50 million Ukrainians for three years.”-Polish President Donald Tusk. SlavaUkraini
    Russia has over 5,000 nuclear weapons. The EU plus the U.K. have about 500.

    Now would Russia use them in Europe? I doubt it, but it complicates Tusk's equation above.
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  • mickeyrat
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    if true, I guess the question is when do the shipments arrive?



    Diehl Defence, the manufacturer of the Iris-T air defense system, has signed a Memorandum of Understanding with the 🇺🇦Ukrainian Ministry of Defense.

    The document envisages a threefold increase in the supply of missiles and air defense systems to the company.

    In addition, the agreement paves the way for large industrial projects that will strengthen Ukraine's air defense.

    USA patriot is thrown out.
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,367

    🇺🇦🇫🇷 “France has announced a new €195 million aid package for Ukraine, funded by frozen Russian assets, including 155mm shells and AASM guided bombs.” - Le Figaro
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,367

    🇺🇦President Zelenskyy: Today, Defense Minister Umerov reported on his meetings and contacts with partners regarding new support packages: Poland, Germany, European Union, The Netherlands, Northern European and Baltic countries – full support, which means new aid packages.
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,367

    "The U.S. decision to suspend the flow of military intelligence to Ukraine this week has aided the Russian advance along a critical part of the front, weakening the negotiating position of President Volodymyr Zelensky and killing many Ukrainian soldiers in recent days..."
    https://time.com/7265679/satellites-front-failing-hundreds-dead-fallout-trump-ukraine-aid-pause/
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,367
    hmmm. is it true?


    Explosive revelations from ex-CIA insider John Sipher: Russian intel is unraveling and hints of Putin’s downfall are emerging amid the Ukraine crisis. Discover how spies are reacting.

    Watch: https://www.kyivpost.com/videos/48563
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  • mickeyrat
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    A Ukrainian unmanned drone attacked a gas platform in the Black Sea that was seized by Russia in 2014.

    The video shows the  Magura-Venom naval drone launching a smaller drone to strike the gas production facility. This confirms that Ukraine has developed a large naval drone that can carry smaller kamikaze drones.
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