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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,104
    Is the war over yet? What are these two bit negotiators talking about? 
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,830
    mickeyrat said:
    That is obviously a very harsh charge. 

    And I’m not convinced he isn’t a traitor. But what is a traitor and what is a change in foreign policy? 

    Hurting Ukraine while awful and not what I want for my America, isn’t really being a traitor is it? 

    goes beyond "our" foreign policy. really upends what most countries condiered the correct world order.

    being buddies with Putin is all well and good. Shouldnt we receive something as a nation for the change in relationship? As it stands I havent heard what we stand to gain here.

    Also then looking forward to the change in stance on Cuba since Russia is a friend now.
    Yeah I am not in full disagreement.  I just think we tend to throw around some pretty large terms (me as well) and wanted to take a step back and see if it really makes sense.  I also think Trump was already a traitor on Jan 6th....
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  • mickeyrat
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    mickeyrat said:
    That is obviously a very harsh charge. 

    And I’m not convinced he isn’t a traitor. But what is a traitor and what is a change in foreign policy? 

    Hurting Ukraine while awful and not what I want for my America, isn’t really being a traitor is it? 

    goes beyond "our" foreign policy. really upends what most countries condiered the correct world order.

    being buddies with Putin is all well and good. Shouldnt we receive something as a nation for the change in relationship? As it stands I havent heard what we stand to gain here.

    Also then looking forward to the change in stance on Cuba since Russia is a friend now.
    Yeah I am not in full disagreement.  I just think we tend to throw around some pretty large terms (me as well) and wanted to take a step back and see if it really makes sense.  I also think Trump was already a traitor on Jan 6th....

    my view is he is personally anti-constitutional and has surrounded himself with the same.
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  • BF25394
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    brianlux said:
    That is obviously a very harsh charge. 

    And I’m not convinced he isn’t a traitor. But what is a traitor and what is a change in foreign policy? 

    Hurting Ukraine while awful and not what I want for my America, isn’t really being a traitor is it? 

    A traitor is anyone in U.S. government who turns their back on the pledge they made to uphold the Constitution of The United States.  Trump is a traitor. 
    For what it's worth-- and the Constitution no longer seems to be relevant, alas-- the Constitution defines treason as "levying War against [the United States], or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort." Unless you don't define Russia as an enemy, I'd say there's a slam-dunk case under the second half of the definition.
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    BF25394 said:
    brianlux said:
    That is obviously a very harsh charge. 

    And I’m not convinced he isn’t a traitor. But what is a traitor and what is a change in foreign policy? 

    Hurting Ukraine while awful and not what I want for my America, isn’t really being a traitor is it? 

    A traitor is anyone in U.S. government who turns their back on the pledge they made to uphold the Constitution of The United States.  Trump is a traitor. 
    For what it's worth-- and the Constitution no longer seems to be relevant, alas-- the Constitution defines treason as "levying War against [the United States], or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort." Unless you don't define Russia as an enemy, I'd say there's a slam-dunk case under the second half of the definition.
    Well remember, "enemy" requires that Congress declare war, and only Congress under the Constitution.  

    But... additional statutes were created that expanded the definition.  They were used against the Rosenbergs even though we were not at war with the USSR.  

    I always found it interesting that treason was the only crime defined by the Founders though. 
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,367
    gonna look for confirmation

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    Trump ordered the dismantling of the landing platform at Rzeszow airbase in Poland, the US has broken down warehouses and torn apart slabs of concrete on the runway to prevent further aid transports to Ukraine. Trump has no intention of resuming US aid to Ukraine. StandWithUkraine
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,104
    mickeyrat said:
    gonna look for confirmation

    Anonymous

    Trump ordered the dismantling of the landing platform at Rzeszow airbase in Poland, the US has broken down warehouses and torn apart slabs of concrete on the runway to prevent further aid transports to Ukraine. Trump has no intention of resuming US aid to Ukraine. StandWithUkraine
    Regardless, the US is currently an enemy of the EU and NATO. Poland should boot their asses, if true.
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  • josevolution
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    Traitor administration standing with the aggressors of the world! And just about half this nation is either ok with it or doesn’t even understand what’s happening! 
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  • mickeyrat
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    BREAKING: Portugal has sent eight SA-330 Puma helicopters to Ukraine

    The helicopters are equipped with Exocet anti-ship missiles and the ORB-31 X-Band radar system which allows Ukraine to identify targets both on surface level and underwater.

    - Anton Gerashchenko, Advisor to Ukrainian Internal Affairs
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  • hunterh75
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    Traitor administration standing with the aggressors of the world! And just about half this nation is either ok with it or doesn’t even understand what’s happening! 
    Good thing you're on here to educate us. I've seen less TDS on liberal websites than the threads on here. Good luck sleeping at night........Big bad orange man under your bed, in your closet, in your head
  • benjs
    benjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,367
    hunterh75 said:
    Traitor administration standing with the aggressors of the world! And just about half this nation is either ok with it or doesn’t even understand what’s happening! 
    Good thing you're on here to educate us. I've seen less TDS on liberal websites than the threads on here. Good luck sleeping at night........Big bad orange man under your bed, in your closet, in your head
    The dude is the president. To say “too much Trump talk” during Biden’s administration, sure, but now? Not once did I hear an insinuation of “too much Biden talk” when he was in office. When you’re hypercritical of your opponents and not at all of your own, you lose any semblance of credibility. You seem to feel this way about liberals, so why wouldn’t they feel that way about you? 
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  • brianlux
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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,574
    Like I said just about half of this nation is ok with 🍊💩 supporting an authoritarian aggressor regime! 
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  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,409
    hunterh75 said:
    Traitor administration standing with the aggressors of the world! And just about half this nation is either ok with it or doesn’t even understand what’s happening! 
    Good thing you're on here to educate us. I've seen less TDS on liberal websites than the threads on here. Good luck sleeping at night........Big bad orange man under your bed, in your closet, in your head
    The 🍊 🤡 💩 worshipers are the ones with TDS
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662
    Like I said just about half of this nation is ok with 🍊💩 supporting an authoritarian aggressor regime! 

    Amazing, isn't it?  
    If there's one thing I've learned through all of this, it's to not waste my time or energy listening to or trying to reason with people who support the demise of Democracy, who actually WANT greedy billionaires to get wealthier, who love having an incompetent man who is becoming mentally unstable to be their dictator, and who apparently don't give a damn about the degradation of the environment and an increasing warmer climate that we are driving to become inhospitable in the not too distant future.  There's just no point in engaging with people who  think that way.
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  • mickeyrat
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    Russia just struck Odesa with a ballistic missile, killing four people.

    Preliminary reports indicate that a Barbados-flagged cargo ship carrying wheat was damaged. Twelve crew members were on board. Among the dead are three Syrians and one Ukrainian.

    At the exact same time, Ukraine announced that it is ready to cease fire for 30 days following talks with the US.
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    Ukraine confirms first Russian jet downed by Italian-French SAMP/T system

    Air Force spokesman Ihnat said since its deployment in Ukraine, the SAMP/T had scored a confirmed kill of a Russian Sukhoi aircraft.
    https://euromaidanpress.com/2025/03/11/ukraine-confirms-first-russian-jet-downed-by-italian-french-samp-t-system/
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  • mickeyrat
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  • mickeyrat
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    In this exclusive interview, a sniper from Ukraine’s Military Intelligence, call sign “Lektor,” reveals the intense preparation, extreme battlefield conditions, and mental precision required for such a feat in the unforgiving Ukrainian warzone.

    https://www.kyivpost.com/videos/48700
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