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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,105
    I am in disbelief of how 95% of this fanbase has become pro war. You all fell for the propaganda. We forced Ukraine to do our dirty work. This is like the middle east wars except now we are using the people of Ukraine. I cannot believe most of you want US boots on the ground to turn this into WW3. You should all be embarrassed. 
    Show us where anyone here posted they want US boots on the ground.
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  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,769
    I am in disbelief of how 95% of this fanbase has become pro war. You all fell for the propaganda. We forced Ukraine to do our dirty work. This is like the middle east wars except now we are using the people of Ukraine. I cannot believe most of you want US boots on the ground to turn this into WW3. You should all be embarrassed. 
    That you’re in disbelief of things you’ve imagined is a good thing. 
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,576
    No we don’t want any American boots on the ground just simple Russian retreat all the way back to Moscow! After all they are the fucking INVADERS 
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  • shadowcast
    shadowcast Posts: 2,336
    I am in disbelief of how 95% of this fanbase has become pro war. You all fell for the propaganda. We forced Ukraine to do our dirty work. This is like the middle east wars except now we are using the people of Ukraine. I cannot believe most of you want US boots on the ground to turn this into WW3. You should all be embarrassed. 
    Show us where anyone here posted they want US boots on the ground.
    Where the hell do you think this war is heading? Its rather naive to think its not heading that direction. So you're one of those war lovers that thinks we should should send money instead for murder..You have a president trying to push for cease fire that should be applauded right now. Mind boggling. 
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,546
    I am in disbelief of how 95% of this fanbase has become pro war. You all fell for the propaganda. We forced Ukraine to do our dirty work. This is like the middle east wars except now we are using the people of Ukraine. I cannot believe most of you want US boots on the ground to turn this into WW3. You should all be embarrassed. 
    Show us where anyone here posted they want US boots on the ground.
    Where the hell do you think this war is heading? Its rather naive to think its not heading that direction. So you're one of those war lovers that thinks we should should send money instead for murder..You have a president trying to push for cease fire that should be applauded right now. Mind boggling. 
    Trump fills the air with words about the war ending. He’s not actually doing anything to make that happen. 
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,105
    I am in disbelief of how 95% of this fanbase has become pro war. You all fell for the propaganda. We forced Ukraine to do our dirty work. This is like the middle east wars except now we are using the people of Ukraine. I cannot believe most of you want US boots on the ground to turn this into WW3. You should all be embarrassed. 
    Show us where anyone here posted they want US boots on the ground.
    Where the hell do you think this war is heading? It’s rather naive to think it’s not heading that direction. So you're one of those war lovers that thinks we should should send money instead for murder..You have a president trying to push for cease fire that should be applauded right now. Mind boggling. 
    It’s not heading toward “US boots on the ground.” Trying to push for a ceasefire? Where do you get your information?
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  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,409
    I am in disbelief of how 95% of this fanbase has become pro war. You all fell for the propaganda. We forced Ukraine to do our dirty work. This is like the middle east wars except now we are using the people of Ukraine. I cannot believe most of you want US boots on the ground to turn this into WW3. You should all be embarrassed. 
    Saying people are "pro war" is like saying people are "pro-abortion ".
    People on here supporting Ukraine's right to defend themselves against an invading force is not being "pro war".
    Its Pro-Ukraine defending their homeland and their citizens.
    Anyone supporting the invaders is supporting  the enemies of Ukraine and America.
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,105
    Good lord, “money for murder.” Now tell us how you feel about Palestine.
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,665
    I am in disbelief of how 95% of this fanbase has become pro war. You all fell for the propaganda. We forced Ukraine to do our dirty work. This is like the middle east wars except now we are using the people of Ukraine. I cannot believe most of you want US boots on the ground to turn this into WW3. You should all be embarrassed. 

    Reading this is bizarre. Someone sitting at their computer or in bed with their phone or whatever, actually thinking these thoughts, projecting strange imaginings onto the other people on this board is just weird to think about, lol.

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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
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    Again, ignorance.  They were fighting Russian separatists in the region.  
    The US is in a proxy war in Ukraine and Ukraine is getting destroyed as a result of it along with a lot of death. The people of Donbas had an election to become independent and the US staged a coup. Besides WW2 when was the last time we were involved in a war and the country turned out ok?
    Two questions for you:

    1. Do you believe the Ukrainian citizens are against this war (think Kiev, Karkhiv, Dnipro, etc, not Donbas)  and would prefer to be a vassal state of Russia?  Or do you think they want to be independent, therefore they are fighting a war?  Remember the Russians have pushed well past Donbas and wanted Kiev.  So don't act like this is just about Donbas.  If it was, the Russians could have just fortified the east exactly like they did Crimea.  

    2. Why do you think that a region in a country can just vote to make themselves independent?  Would we allow that to happen?  Would Canada allow Quebec to break-away?  In what world do you live in where that could happen?  Yes Donbas is primarily Russian speaking, but that was because of the massive emigration over the past 30 years.  If they want to be Russian, go back to Russia.  Ukraine should not ever just let them secede, and then take up arms against Kiev.

    It's just amazing how you can think this way without drawing any comparatives to the rest of the West and how it/we would react to these very situations.  I might remind you that no...we would not let a region just secede.  Let me know if you need the exact situation where that was attempted. 
    It's truly amazing how you fall right in line with the war mongering US government and the war hawks. Pro tip: Anytime the US is funding any type of war it is never for a good reason. We are getting these poor Ukrainians slaughtered. Don't kid yourself. We are solely there to drain Ukraine of their rare earth minerals and rebuild Ukraine with American companies. Always follow the $$$. Ukraine is not even going to hold a election......gee I wonder why. Also the people do not want to fight as they know whats going on. https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2025/1/23/why-is-ukraine-struggling-to-mobilise-its-citizens-to-fight
    I'm Ukrainian.  My father was born in the Ukraine.  My proper last name is Rosul.  My father was Mykola Uilyam Rosul.  

    You don't have a fucking clue about how Ukrainians think and feel about independence.  Don't patronize us about Ukrainians being slaughtered. Half of my family was lost in Holodomor, murdered by the Soviets in Moscow.  

    You don't give a shit about Ukrainians.  If you did, you'd understand why they can never be subjugated by the Russians again.  They can end the war and cede territory for security guarantees, and that's what will happen.  But they will not and cannot rollover. 
    One million people dead. Ukraine is getting wrecked and people are dying and being displaced. You have to come to the negotiating table. 
    Ukrainians are not Vichy.  When will you understand that Ukrainians are willing to die for their freedom.  I'm sad to know that you would not.  Evidently you would live under oppression.  
  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,610
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,105
    OnWis97 said:
    Major "conquered not stolen" vibes...
    Next thing we’ll be reading is how tens of thousands of Ukrainian children just one day decided that life would be so much better in Russia Russia Russia that they just upped and left of their own free will and volition and with their parents’ blessing.
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  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,527
    nato should throw us out, accept ukraine, and then go wipe putin off of the map. 
    Amen. I think what we need is a fucking thorough ass kicking.
    Psssst.......just a quick FYI.....Russia has nukes.....this wasn't well thought out.
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  • mickeyrat
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    Ukrainian forces have nearly encircled the most forward positions of Russian troops inside the city of Toretsk after a surprise counteroffensive was launched in the Donetsk region.

    Ukraine hasn’t made this significant of an advance since the invasion of Kursk.

    Russia has not achieved its strategic goals in their current offensive operation in Donetsk.

    Initial reports suggest similar things are taking place towards the Pokrovsk direction.
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  • dignin
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    PJ_Soul said:
    I am in disbelief of how 95% of this fanbase has become pro war. You all fell for the propaganda. We forced Ukraine to do our dirty work. This is like the middle east wars except now we are using the people of Ukraine. I cannot believe most of you want US boots on the ground to turn this into WW3. You should all be embarrassed. 

    Reading this is bizarre. Someone sitting at their computer or in bed with their phone or whatever, actually thinking these thoughts, projecting strange imaginings onto the other people on this board is just weird to think about, lol.

    No thinking required, just parrot what dear leader tells you.
  • mickeyrat
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  • mrussel1
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    mickeyrat said:
    video.....


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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    Trump pauses military aid to
    ukraine. 


    I never thought I’d see the day when the US president sides with Russia. 
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,105
    COOTWH paused all support for Ukraine. Is the war over yet? They surrendered and Putin on the ritz marches triumphant, eh?
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  • mickeyrat
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    Trump pauses military aid to
    ukraine. 


    I never thought I’d see the day when the US president sides with Russia. 

    I have to double-check and verify this, but to my recollection I think Biden sent the last of whatever the last package was before he left office. So I think this is just Bluster in a in a negotiation tactic. Some Republican Congressman said this deal is still on as far as the mineral rights thing, so it remains to be seen what's true and not
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