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  • AW124797
    AW124797 Posts: 763
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    mickeyrat said:

    A new Covid variant could drive up summer cases: Here's what you should know
    The variant appears to be more transmissible than the dominant strain worldwide, LP.8.1, meaning it has the potential to drive up cases this summer.

    continues 
    Jabdemic on top of a scamdemic big pharma money grab. Just the common cold.
    Oh, boy! Gonna need a fresh booster for that one! 
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 43,125
    AW124797 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    mickeyrat said:

    A new Covid variant could drive up summer cases: Here's what you should know
    The variant appears to be more transmissible than the dominant strain worldwide, LP.8.1, meaning it has the potential to drive up cases this summer.

    continues 
    Jabdemic on top of a scamdemic big pharma money grab. Just the common cold.
    Oh, boy! Gonna need a fresh booster for that one! 
    Already got it but now I get Happy Days straight to the brain.
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  • josevolution
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    AW124797 said:
    BF25394 said:
    AW124797 said:
    josevolution said:
    I don’t get the point of arguing/debating this issue, I don’t waste my time talking to antivaxers about it. I saw a lot of death in that 1st year of the pandemic working in a hospital here in NY
    I don't think anybody here is debating 1st year of the pandemic. How many deaths are you seeing this year? Honest question. 
    The CDC estimates that between 31,000 and 45,000 Americans have died from COVID-19 since October. The CDC also estimates that between 270,000 and 430,000 Americans have been hospitalized for COVID-19 since October.
    Was actually curious what Jose is witnessing nowadays. 
    Nowhere near the levels of death during that 1st wave but people are still getting the virus and getting really sick 
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  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 10,264
    AW124797 said:
    Tim Simmons said:
    No he’s right. They’re all in on it. Every doctor. Every hospital administration. Every insurer. Every scientist. Big Pharma, big government. It’s all a conspiracy. They’re all on the exact same page. And the only people who have figured it out (pending peer review of course) are the Pepe who do their own research and release that research via Instagram, tik tok and YouTube advertisements, the reputable scientific sources. 
    Are you saying my licensed pediatrician did his own research and is a conspiracy theorists because he didn't recommend covid shots for healthy kids? Did you ask your doctor about the shots for kids or did you just request them without consultation because you knew better? 
    Our doctor recommended them. Especially because we had an immunocompromised family member. 
  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 10,264
    edited June 5
    And this is the type of shit you get when you push science at companies and universities. This wouldn't have happened without the success of the mRNA covid vaccine. And this is the shit you aren't gonna see as much of in America for a few generations. 



    https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2025/jun/05/breakthrough-in-search-for-hiv-cure-leaves-researchers-overwhelmed


  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Tim Simmons said:
    And this is the type of shit you get when you push science at companies and universities. This wouldn't have happened without the success of the mRNA covid vaccine. And this is the shit you aren't gonna see as much of in America for a few generations. 



    https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2025/jun/05/breakthrough-in-search-for-hiv-cure-leaves-researchers-overwhelmed


    Universities should fund their own damn research dammit! The country is in $40T in debt! Government funding of universities represents a huge portion of the federal budget! Make it stop!
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Tim Simmons said:
    And this is the type of shit you get when you push science at companies and universities. This wouldn't have happened without the success of the mRNA covid vaccine. And this is the shit you aren't gonna see as much of in America for a few generations. 



    https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2025/jun/05/breakthrough-in-search-for-hiv-cure-leaves-researchers-overwhelmed


    Universities should fund their own damn research dammit! The country is in $40T in debt! Government funding of universities represents a huge portion of the federal budget! Make it stop!
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 40,014
    Tim Simmons said:
    And this is the type of shit you get when you push science at companies and universities. This wouldn't have happened without the success of the mRNA covid vaccine. And this is the shit you aren't gonna see as much of in America for a few generations. 



    https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2025/jun/05/breakthrough-in-search-for-hiv-cure-leaves-researchers-overwhelmed


    who needs a vaccine made by libruls that only encourages the evil drag queens to have their satanistic relations?
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  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 10,264
    edited June 6
    Just in case you’ve done your own research and maybe missed this.

    https://research.abo.fi/ws/portalfiles/portal/49652763/Excess_mortality_and_COVID_19_in_Sweden_in_2020.pdf
























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  • AW124797
    AW124797 Posts: 763
    Tim Simmons said:
    Just in case you’ve done your own research and maybe missed this.

    https://research.abo.fi/ws/portalfiles/portal/49652763/Excess_mortality_and_COVID_19_in_Sweden_in_2020.pdf
























    Mate, you're in the wrong rabbit hole. This is completely out of context. Please continue with your own research and check Sweden vs other wealthy nations excess death rate in the last decade or pandemic years. 
  • AW124797
    AW124797 Posts: 763
    Tim Simmons said:
    And this is the type of shit you get when you push science at companies and universities. This wouldn't have happened without the success of the mRNA covid vaccine. And this is the shit you aren't gonna see as much of in America for a few generations. 



    https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2025/jun/05/breakthrough-in-search-for-hiv-cure-leaves-researchers-overwhelmed


    Great. Now off to Africa for proper testing.
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 45,218
    Kennedy overhauls US CDC vaccine panel, replacing all 17 members - https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/all-members-vaccine-advisory-panel-will-be-retired-us-health-secretary-kennedy-2025-06-09/
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  • mrussel1
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    mickeyrat said:
    Kennedy overhauls US CDC vaccine panel, replacing all 17 members - https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/all-members-vaccine-advisory-panel-will-be-retired-us-health-secretary-kennedy-2025-06-09/
    Paywalled!  Not you Reuters!

    In his confirmation, he promised there would be no changes to the panel.  Shocking that a Trump administration member lied through his teeth under oath.  

    But now let me complain about KJP a bunch because that really matters compared to something as trivial as vaccine approval.  
  • mickeyrat
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    mrussel1 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    Kennedy overhauls US CDC vaccine panel, replacing all 17 members - https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/all-members-vaccine-advisory-panel-will-be-retired-us-health-secretary-kennedy-2025-06-09/
    Paywalled!  Not you Reuters!

    In his confirmation, he promised there would be no changes to the panel.  Shocking that a Trump administration member lied through his teeth under oath.  

    But now let me complain about KJP a bunch because that really matters compared to something as trivial as vaccine approval.  

    hold please....
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  • mickeyrat
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    edited June 9



    WASHINGTON, June 9 (Reuters) - Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. has fired all members sitting on a U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention panel of vaccine experts and is reconstituting the committee, his department said on Monday.
    Kennedy removed all 17 members of the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices, the Department of Health and Human Services said in a statement, and is in the process of considering new members to replace them.

    He made the comments at a Goldman Sachs health care conference.
    The ACIP panel is tasked with recommending which vaccines get placed on the CDC immunization schedule and who should get them, which helps determine insurance coverage.
    "Today we are prioritizing the restoration of public trust above any specific pro- or anti-vaccine agenda," Kennedy said. "The public must know that unbiased science — evaluated through a transparent process and insulated from conflicts of interest — guides the recommendations of our health agencies."

    All 17 sitting ACIP members were appointed under former President Joe Biden's administration, including 13 in 2024, HHS said. Not removing them would have prevented President Donald Trump's administration from choosing a majority of the committee until 2028.
    "That’s a tragedy," former Food and Drug Administration Chief Scientist Jesse Goodman said of the firings. "This is a highly professional group of scientists and physicians and others... It's the kind of political meddling that will reduce confidence rather than increase confidence."

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  • mickeyrat
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    Exclusive: Kennedy's new vaccine adviser was expert witness against Merck vaccine - https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/kennedys-new-vaccine-adviser-was-expert-witness-against-merck-vaccine-2025-06-12/
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  • mickeyrat
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    lob accusation and provide no evidence...

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  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,640
    mickeyrat said:
    Exclusive: Kennedy's new vaccine adviser was expert witness against Merck vaccine - https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/kennedys-new-vaccine-adviser-was-expert-witness-against-merck-vaccine-2025-06-12/
    All of the new jab advisors will be anti-vax conspiracy theorists. 
    Every single one 
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 32,092
    https://apnews.com/article/nih-research-trump-cuts-dei-rfk-4fec9f308f3ff427185a12e88f260c81?utm_source=onesignal&utm_medium=push&utm_campaign=2025-06-16-Trump+administration
    Who needs research waste of time I can hear him say 
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  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,640
    josevolution said:
    https://apnews.com/article/nih-research-trump-cuts-dei-rfk-4fec9f308f3ff427185a12e88f260c81?utm_source=onesignal&utm_medium=push&utm_campaign=2025-06-16-Trump+administration
    Who needs research waste of time I can hear him say 
    Ignorant anti-science dipshits

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