Viruses / Vaccines 2

mickeyrat

gift op-ed

https://wapo.st/48dCN4z 

 

Opinion 

 George W. Bush: Michael Gerson’s words make the case for saving PEPFAR

By George W. Bush

September 13, 2023 at 6:00 a.m. EDT

The writer was the 43rd president of the United States.

When I took office in 2001, the situation with HIV/AIDS on the African continent and elsewhere was dire. A group of advisers including Condi Rice, Josh Bolten and Mike Gerson encouraged me to act before an entire generation was lost.

I believe that every life has dignity and value. I also believe that of those to whom much is given, much is required. So we developed a plan with clear objectives and accountability, and we got to work.

In 2003, Congress authorized the President’s Emergency Plan for AIDS Relief, or PEPFAR, with huge bipartisan support. Twenty years later, the results are clear: PEPFAR has saved more than 25 million lives and prevented millions of HIV infections. Members of Congress and American citizens from both parties should be proud.

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cblock4life

Since the “Chicago covid” thread was closed-for once not because of me- I now have covid…..again.  Yesterday picked up paxlovid for husband and pharmacy will deliver mine today.  Over $1100 worth of medication completely covered by the govt. Not sure that’s fair when we both have medical and scrip till we pass (excellent union job!) but still, this country does TRY to take care of us, sometimes.  

lastexitlondon

I hope it's mild for you it's kicked my arse 

cblock4life

lastexitlondon said:

I hope it's mild for you it's kicked my arse 

I’m fine….I’m so sorry this is hitting you so hard.  I know you said you were noticing chest symptoms…..don’t mess around with it.  It’s serious.  People who say otherwise are just plain selfish.  You’re such a good guy (from what I can tell) I’d hate to see you suffer too long.  I’ll say a prayer for your quick recovery with no long term effects.  Take care and be safe!  

lastexitlondon

Thanks I'm through the worst I think. Take care

mrussel1

cblock4life said:

Since the “Chicago covid” thread was closed-for once not because of me- I now have covid…..again.  Yesterday picked up paxlovid for husband and pharmacy will deliver mine today.  Over $1100 worth of medication completely covered by the govt. Not sure that’s fair when we both have medical and scrip till we pass (excellent union job!) but still, this country does TRY to take care of us, sometimes.  

Show was six days ago.  When did you start feeling bad?  

Two friends I was around briefly came down with it, but I've been fine so far.  

cblock4life

mrussel1 said:

cblock4life said:

Since the “Chicago covid” thread was closed-for once not because of me- I now have covid…..again.  Yesterday picked up paxlovid for husband and pharmacy will deliver mine today.  Over $1100 worth of medication completely covered by the govt. Not sure that’s fair when we both have medical and scrip till we pass (excellent union job!) but still, this country does TRY to take care of us, sometimes.  

Show was six days ago.  When did you start feeling bad?  

Two friends I was around briefly came down with it, but I've been fine so far.  

Husband started symptoms Saturday (we came home Friday).  I started symptoms yesterday.  

Hope you stay ok!  

HughFreakingDillon

just saw that covid roll call thread. man, so many asshats around. 

OnWis97

HughFreakingDillon said:

just saw that covid roll call thread. man, so many asshats around. 

I could not find that thread...was it taken down?

HughFreakingDillon

OnWis97 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

just saw that covid roll call thread. man, so many asshats around. 

I could not find that thread...was it taken down?

https://community.pearljam.com/discussion/299620/fall-2023-tour-covid-roll-call#latest

Lerxst1992

HughFreakingDillon said:

OnWis97 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

just saw that covid roll call thread. man, so many asshats around. 

I could not find that thread...was it taken down?

https://community.pearljam.com/discussion/299620/fall-2023-tour-covid-roll-call#latest

Wow. Thanks for posting. Reading some of those comments it should be no surprise why trump has a real chance to win. 

To some, either you don’t think about Covid risk at all or you need to hide in your house petrified. 

It’s nice the forum has rules, but maybe we need to yell at each other because nice rules can not stop the reckoning we appear headed towards.

OnWis97

Drat....it's been closed. I didn't even get a chance to say that I, too, like spreading disease to dunk on Biden and Fauci. 

curmudgeoness

Lerxst1992 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

OnWis97 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

just saw that covid roll call thread. man, so many asshats around. 

I could not find that thread...was it taken down?

https://community.pearljam.com/discussion/299620/fall-2023-tour-covid-roll-call#latest

Wow. Thanks for posting. Reading some of those comments it should be no surprise why trump has a real chance to win. 

To some, either you don’t think about Covid risk at all or you need to hide in your house petrified. 

It’s nice the forum has rules, but maybe we need to yell at each other because nice rules can not stop the reckoning we appear headed towards.

I think the combination of a poor science education (common in US schools)  and a lack of empathy created a lot of the anti-vax atmosphere. If people had a better understanding of how vaccines work, how viruses work, and how disease spreads, well, that wouldn't fix everything but it would eliminate a lot of the ignorance. I learned all of the above in an introductory college biology class, so it's not like we all need to go to medical school to understand these things.

curmudgeoness

I'm not going to go back through all 127 pages of this thread. So if I've said this before, I've said it before, it's worth repeating.

I'm one of those people who have issues with respiratory diseases. Since my early twenties, most colds I catch would end up turning into bronchitis or something worse: I'd spend six to eight weeks gasping for breath, coughing up blood, trying not to crack a rib. I got the Prevnar vaccine about ten years ago, and it changed my life. At that point, I had to use an inhaler when I caught a cold. (As a point of reference, I'm very fit, lean, run 50+ miles/week, don't smoke, etc.) Getting the vaccine meant that colds stayed colds, easily managed by zinc, fluids, and rest.

The whole family got H1N1 at the Spectrum shows. We're diligent about getting flu shots, so this was a great learning experience for my kids, who had no memory of being really sick: As a result even my needle-phobic child makes sure to get a flu shot every fall. I cannot imagine passing up on an option to avoid being sick like that. 

An important thing to remember, though: Flu vaccines aren't perfect, some years they're maybe 40% effective. Covid vaccines are amazing, they're much more effective. BUT: the goal of the Covid vaccine isn't to keep you from getting Covid, it's to keep you from being hospitalized or dying due to Covid.

gimmesometruth27

i keep seeing these people posting pics with pj band members on social media. no masks. nobody is taking precautions. josh k was at dealey plaza in dallas this morning posing with fans. the band isn't even taking the risk seriously, so i am not surprised the band members are getting sick.

i believe that no big tours from any band will go off without a hitch for the forseeable future. hetfield got covid last week.

cblock4life

gimmesometruth27 said:

i keep seeing these people posting pics with pj band members on social media. no masks. nobody is taking precautions. josh k was at dealey plaza in dallas this morning posing with fans. the band isn't even taking the risk seriously, so i am not surprised the band members are getting sick.

i believe that no big tours from any band will go off without a hitch for the forseeable future. hetfield got covid last week.

That’s a lot of late 50, early sixty individuals getting this strain.  

cblock4life

curmudgeoness said:

I'm not going to go back through all 127 pages of this thread. So if I've said this before, I've said it before, it's worth repeating.

I'm one of those people who have issues with respiratory diseases. Since my early twenties, most colds I catch would end up turning into bronchitis or something worse: I'd spend six to eight weeks gasping for breath, coughing up blood, trying not to crack a rib. I got the Prevnar vaccine about ten years ago, and it changed my life. At that point, I had to use an inhaler when I caught a cold. (As a point of reference, I'm very fit, lean, run 50+ miles/week, don't smoke, etc.) Getting the vaccine meant that colds stayed colds, easily managed by zinc, fluids, and rest.

The whole family got H1N1 at the Spectrum shows. We're diligent about getting flu shots, so this was a great learning experience for my kids, who had no memory of being really sick: As a result even my needle-phobic child makes sure to get a flu shot every fall. I cannot imagine passing up on an option to avoid being sick like that. 

An important thing to remember, though: Flu vaccines aren't perfect, some years they're maybe 40% effective. Covid vaccines are amazing, they're much more effective. BUT: the goal of the Covid vaccine isn't to keep you from getting Covid, it's to keep you from being hospitalized or dying due to Covid.

It doesn’t pay to be smart, reasonable, mature, and honest around here sometimes, however, I certainly appreciate your PSA and thank you for posting!  

mickeyrat

what do you call the guy at the bottom of his class in med school?

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1702499686790082769?t=Gk7UrFGIaZc7d_-PwPtL3Q&s=19

you call him Doctor.

Halifax2TheMax

mickeyrat said:

what do you call the guy at the bottom of his class in med school?

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1702499686790082769?t=Gk7UrFGIaZc7d_-PwPtL3Q&s=19

you call him Doctor.

Zero sympathy when the cult members start dropping like flies in a couple of months. Zero.

HughFreakingDillon

gimmesometruth27 said:

i keep seeing these people posting pics with pj band members on social media. no masks. nobody is taking precautions. josh k was at dealey plaza in dallas this morning posing with fans. the band isn't even taking the risk seriously, so i am not surprised the band members are getting sick.

i believe that no big tours from any band will go off without a hitch for the forseeable future. hetfield got covid last week.

they can't live in a bubble forever. can you imagine touring and being sequestered the entire time? what band would tour? I don't wear a mask anymore. I take a sardine-packed bus home from work 3 days a week. such is life now.