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    23scidoo23scidoo Thessaloniki,Greece Posts: 18,767
    edited June 13
    benjs said:
    23scidoo said:
    benjs said:
    23scidoo said:
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    To you..
    you're saying you don't believe zoonotic diseases are real?
    i was talking about covid, its origin..
    This has been explained to you tens of times on here. While the pandemic was killing people across the globe en masse - the consensus amongst most on here was that it did not matter one iota whether it was from a lab or from a wet market. In either case, the Chinese government was unlikely to admit anything, and if they did, what would it change? Clearly it ravaged China as well, so clearly they weren't able to curb the impact regardless. While you were focusing on 'where did it come from', reasonable people were focused on 'how can we stop it from killing people'. It's akin to trying to establish rules for the Hague before the Holocaust was over.

    Now you come on here like you're the only enlightened one who could see the truth from day one (not that your truth has been proven) - you don't seem to realize, people frankly did not care about its origin while they were watching neighbours become hospitalized or die. It's called priorities. What vindication are you seeking here? 
    topic of principles..if you don't understand, we have different values..
    ''where did it come from''..the issue is who knew about it and hide it and who funded the research..bingo!!..
    I have no opposition with you seeking it these days when crisis is no longer at hand. What I found frankly stupid, was when as I said, people were dying of CoVID on a regular basis, and you had this obsession over where it came from. If you want to be obsessed today, have at it. Maybe if your ilk shared statistical evidence or pursued having articles published, it would lend a bit more credibility to your unearned confidence. Seems to me there are two unproven theories, you just like to speak about one of them like it's proven but suppressed. Given that "suppression", it's impossible to disprove, but also impossible to prove. That's the territory that conspiracy theorists love to live in.
    As you said, people dying of this and it doesn't matter the origin??..don't think so..
    and what are you think is a conspiracy, its not..called common sense..
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    23scidoo23scidoo Thessaloniki,Greece Posts: 18,767
    23scidoo said:
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    what will happen, we will not comment on the statements from ex cdc director??..
    or its a hot potato??..
    why is it you only believe people in these positions when they agree with your position? none of these folks are to be believed, I thought? They're all part of the conspiracy, I thought?

    and post something he said. I'm not watching a 2.5 hour interview. 
    mother google..
    no. show your work or I'm not marking it. 
    Then don't have opinion on please..
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    HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 36,093
    23scidoo said:
    23scidoo said:
    23scidoo said:
    what will happen, we will not comment on the statements from ex cdc director??..
    or its a hot potato??..
    why is it you only believe people in these positions when they agree with your position? none of these folks are to be believed, I thought? They're all part of the conspiracy, I thought?

    and post something he said. I'm not watching a 2.5 hour interview. 
    mother google..
    no. show your work or I'm not marking it. 
    Then don't have opinion on please..
    if you want us to comment on something, post it. that's how this works. 
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    Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 10,652
    23scidoo said:
    23scidoo said:
    23scidoo said:
    what will happen, we will not comment on the statements from ex cdc director??..
    or its a hot potato??..
    why is it you only believe people in these positions when they agree with your position? none of these folks are to be believed, I thought? They're all part of the conspiracy, I thought?

    and post something he said. I'm not watching a 2.5 hour interview. 
    mother google..
    no. show your work or I'm not marking it. 
    Then don't have opinion on please..
    lol 
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    VitalogensiaVitalogensia Posts: 1,967
    Well, this is an interesting thing to read on Flag Day: Pentagon ran secret anti-vax campaign to incite fear of China vaccines (reuters.com)
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,982
    Well, this is an interesting thing to read on Flag Day: Pentagon ran secret anti-vax campaign to incite fear of China vaccines (reuters.com)
    That’s got Herr Miller’s fingerprints all over it. And Esper? Heritage Foundation, whatdya expect? Expect more of the same in 2025 and beyond, particularly with Project 2025 being implemented.
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    23scidoo23scidoo Thessaloniki,Greece Posts: 18,767
    And the lawsuits reached your neighborhood..
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    mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 36,357
    gift article


    CDC warns of increased dengue fever risk in U.S.
    By Lena H. Sun
    June 25, 2024 at 16:23 ET
    The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention warned clinicians, health authorities and the public Tuesday about an increased risk for dengue virus infections in the United States because of the record-breaking global incidence of the mosquito-borne viral disease.
    In the first six months of 2024, countries in the Americas have reported more than 9.7 million dengue cases, twice as many as in all of 2023, exceeding the highest number ever recorded in a single year, the CDC said in a health advisory. Puerto Rico declared a public health emergency because of the unusually high number of cases reported in the winter and spring, the dry season, when dengue cases are typically low.
    Since January, 745 dengue cases have been identified among U.S. travelers who became infected abroad, the agency said. Dengue cases typically increase during the warmest months that are yet to come. Last year, there were 1,829 travel-associated cases in the United States.
    Dengue transmission typically peaks during the warmer and wetter months in many tropical and subtropical regions, and infectious-disease experts say cases are likely to increase as global temperatures rise. U.S. summer travel often overlaps with the months of increased dengue activity in many countries. Epidemics in the Americas raise the number of travel-associated cases as well as local transmission in the continental United States, the CDC said.
    There is no evidence of a dengue outbreak in the continental United States. “However, around the world, dengue cases have risen at an alarming rate, including in Puerto Rico, which is experiencing an increasing number of dengue cases,” the CDC said in a statement.
    Dengue is spread by the bite of an infected mosquito of the Aedes species. Travelers infected abroad can bring the virus back to their communities, where local mosquitoes bite them and transmit the disease to others. Most dengue infections are mild or asymptomatic, but severe cases can lead to internal bleeding, organ failure and death. Also known as “breakbone fever,” dengue can cause disabling high fevers, severe headaches and muscle and joint pain.
    There is no specific medicine to treat dengue. There are no vaccines for adults or people without a previous dengue infection. The only vaccine approved for use in the United States is for children 9 to 16 years old who have had a previous dengue infection and who live in frequent or continuous dengue transmission areas, such as Puerto Rico.
    With increased global and domestic incidence of dengue, the CDC is urging health-care providers to be on the lookout for dengue among people with fever who have been in areas with dengue transmission within 14 days of the start of illness. Infants, pregnant people, adults over 65 years old and people with certain medical conditions are at increased risk for severe dengue.

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