I'm a sucker. Because my wife's account was verified, I was also able to into night 1 in seattle. I couldn't buy more verified tickets, but I did buy some platinum tickets. The most I have ever paid for tickets in my entire life.
Still.. I haven't bought concert tickets in 2 years. Plus the tickets for night 2 being all the way at the back were cheaper than I was expecting. Night 1 is on the main level.
I really hope Covid doesn't cause issues with crossing the land border. Fingers crossed.
I got kicked out of my card after hitting pay like ten times. By the time I was back there were bullshit $600++ tickets. No thanks. I thought about it for a minute and can afford it but it fucking offends me.
Anyone have an extra Seattle? Lmfao.
If I knew where it was, I would take you there....there's much more than this.
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I think it's automated. Platinum tickets use algorithms to determine the demand for the tickets and try to price accordingly.
In essence there's usually a gap between a ticket price and what a broker/scalper can sell it for. That's because many artists sell their tickets below cost value. Platinum basically tries to close this cap and earn what would normally go to a scalper/broker.
In this case though, with 10c and verified fan tickets only, and no transferring, you would think scalping would be minimal.
Keep in mind these Platinum priced tickets only happen with the artist’s permission.
Yes, these are dynamically priced Platinum tickets sold by TM. I saw two first row balcony Seattle Night 2 seats go from $179 to $655 to $955 then back down to $655. Now has settled at $655. Luckily, I got my single at the $179 face value before the dynamic ticket pricing went into effect.
SEA 9/20/92, SEA 12/7/93, SEA 12/31/94 (MS), SEA 11/5/00, SEA 11/6/00, SEA 12/8/02, SEA 12/9/02, BEN 10/22/03, GOR 9/1/05, SD 7/7/06, LA 7/10/06, LA 7/12/06, LA (EV) 4/12/08, LA (EV) 4/13/08, LA 7/12/08, LA 9/30/09, LA 10/7/09, SEA 12/6/13, SEA 8/8/18
So I signed up for Verified fan and did not get a code.
Now I can see Platinum tix for Seattle and the prices are a bit steep. Seattle 2 is showing tix from $510 - $990 for platinum pricing. I also see a few seats that are locked out to a code.
So does Verified fan mean you get first crack an steep ticket prices that go directly to ticketmaster now??? Had a friend that was looking without verified fan and they can't see any tix yet.
I did get a nice warning on the almost $2200 ticket cart that if I sold these I could only see them at face value. That is kind of funny.
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I think it's automated. Platinum tickets use algorithms to determine the demand for the tickets and try to price accordingly.
In essence there's usually a gap between a ticket price and what a broker/scalper can sell it for. That's because many artists sell their tickets below cost value. Platinum basically tries to close this cap and earn what would normally go to a scalper/broker.
In this case though, with 10c and verified fan tickets only, and no transferring, you would think scalping would be minimal.
Learned something new, thanks.
If I knew where it was, I would take you there....there's much more than this.
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So I signed up for Verified fan and did not get a code.
Now I can see Platinum tix for Seattle and the prices are a bit steep. Seattle 2 is showing tix from $510 - $990 for platinum pricing. I also see a few seats that are locked out to a code.
So does Verified fan mean you get first crack an steep ticket prices that go directly to ticketmaster now??? Had a friend that was looking without verified fan and they can't see any tix yet.
I did get a nice warning on the almost $2200 ticket cart that if I sold these I could only see them at face value. That is kind of funny.
oh wait, if we can't make the show (say to Covid) we can only resell them what would of been face value if they weren't platinum, or the face value (platinum) price we did pay for them? I missed that :(
to answer your question verified fan is basically a public onsale, except they filter who can buy tickets. You sign up for it..they view your transaction history on TM, algorithm's try and determine if your the kind of person who would use their ticket, and along with finite tickets, they send out codes to people to buy tickets at the sale time. In it's essence verified fan is basically a vetted public on sale. It's trying to keep people who just opened a new TM account or who frequently resell their tickets from being able to buy. it's not perfect, but I guess it sort of works.
Keep in mind these Platinum priced tickets only happen with the artist’s permission.
Yes and no. The artist can certainly fight this, but TM/Live Nation can also require it for their venues. No platinum priced tickets = no venue.....no ticket distribution
2017 - DMB takes the year off, Dave & Tim tour, start of Platinum for Dave, DMB follows suit in 2018 2021 - PJ currently off tour, Ed & Friends tour, start of Platinum for Eddie, ....
Keep in mind these Platinum priced tickets only happen with the artist’s permission.
Yes and no. The artist can certainly fight this, but TM/Live Nation can also require it for their venues. No platinum priced tickets = no venue.....no ticket distribution
Live Nation is also the biggest concert promoter and traditionally offers a lump sum to the artist’s management for a tour. It is then up to Live Nation to recoup that money however they see fit. Clearly for Platinum pricing to occur, Live Nation makes that known to the artist’s management and has their okay.
i was just pointing out after the uproar over high face value prices for this tour, to me the fact that Platinum pricing was agreed to is far worse. It’s ironic over his stand against Ticketmaster 25 years ago, that Vedder is now allowing his own tickets to be scalped officially.
2017 - DMB takes the year off, Dave & Tim tour, start of Platinum for Dave, DMB follows suit in 2018 2021 - PJ currently off tour, Ed & Friends tour, start of Platinum for Eddie, ....
Going to be a lot of pissed off people if that happens.
2017 - DMB takes the year off, Dave & Tim tour, start of Platinum for Dave, DMB follows suit in 2018 2021 - PJ currently off tour, Ed & Friends tour, start of Platinum for Eddie, ....
Going to be a lot of pissed off people if that happens.
Platinum existed for a small number of Vitalogy Foundation charity tickets for the spring 2020 tour, as well as Ohana Fest. Nowhere near as many available/set aside as other artists, but they existed.
I'm on Stub Hub and these tickets aren't going anywhere. If I feel the need to pay the price (which I probably will) I can wait until Feb. If I'm wrong I won't be out 500 dollars.
Yeah I’m not jumping on these now. There’s a pretty healthy amount of inventory on there, and it’s all scalpers - more tickets will come on as we get closer and regular people change their plans. I’ll be checking in several times a day between now and February.
I’ll also be interested to see what happens to the ticket prices if rescheduled PJ dates are announced prior to these shows. My guess is not much, but it’s possible that demand could go down if people decide they’d rather try to catch Pearl Jam at the Garden.
Wait to see if a snow storm hits or there is a polar vortex.
People keep saying this. The Beacon Theater is on the Upper West Side of Manhattan, on Broadway a block and a half from the subway. Nobody is driving there. Short of an apocalyptic blizzard snow isn’t going to stop anyone from going to these shows.
It will if they’re not local. 😈
DC '03 - Reading '04 - Philly '05 - Camden 1 '06 - DC '06 - E. Rutherford '06 - The Vic '07 - Lollapalooza '07 - DC '08 - EV DC 1 & 2 '08 (Met Ed!!) - EV Baltimore 1 & 2 '09 - EV NYC 1 '11 (Met Ed!) - Hartford '13 - GCF '15 - MSG 2 '16 - TOTD MSG '16 - Boston 1 & 2 '18 - SHN '21 - EV NYC 1 & 2 '22 - MSG '22
Keep in mind these Platinum priced tickets only happen with the artist’s permission.
Yes and no. The artist can certainly fight this, but TM/Live Nation can also require it for their venues. No platinum priced tickets = no venue.....no ticket distribution
Live Nation is also the biggest concert promoter and traditionally offers a lump sum to the artist’s management for a tour. It is then up to Live Nation to recoup that money however they see fit. Clearly for Platinum pricing to occur, Live Nation makes that known to the artist’s management and has their okay.
i was just pointing out after the uproar over high face value prices for this tour, to me the fact that Platinum pricing was agreed to is far worse. It’s ironic over his stand against Ticketmaster 25 years ago, that Vedder is now allowing his own tickets to be scalped officially.
I too was shocked platinum pricing was an option. Its gross. Can't stress this enough.
However, Its normal for the venue, promoter, and TM to take their share of tix. Then we know those tix often go straight to resale. Some bands even do that with their allottment. Whether they maximize value via platinum prices or resale of those tickets. They are going to weasal the $ one way or another. Platinum being an option very well may have been the concession for not allowing transfer or resale as well.
Now consider this. Live Nation and TM are the same company. In a lot of cases they are the venue, promoter, and the distributor…
It isn't hard for them to flex their power and essentially make it impossible to tour.
Option 1: We get X number of tickets and can resell Option 2: We get y number of tickets, no resell, but have platinum pricing Option 3: Find another venue or ticket distribution option
2017 - DMB takes the year off, Dave & Tim tour, start of Platinum for Dave, DMB follows suit in 2018 2021 - PJ currently off tour, Ed & Friends tour, start of Platinum for Eddie, ....
Going to be a lot of pissed off people if that happens.
Platinum existed for a small number of Vitalogy Foundation charity tickets for the spring 2020 tour, as well as Ohana Fest. Nowhere near as many available/set aside as other artists, but they existed.
It did for sure and at least that was for a good cause. Still hard to see some of the best seats with full rows going over $750 a ticket charity or not.
2017 - DMB takes the year off, Dave & Tim tour, start of Platinum for Dave, DMB follows suit in 2018 2021 - PJ currently off tour, Ed & Friends tour, start of Platinum for Eddie, ....
Going to be a lot of pissed off people if that happens.
And a lot of cucks who defend it as "evolving". "It's not 1995 anymore!!"
2017 - DMB takes the year off, Dave & Tim tour, start of Platinum for Dave, DMB follows suit in 2018 2021 - PJ currently off tour, Ed & Friends tour, start of Platinum for Eddie, ....
Going to be a lot of pissed off people if that happens.
Platinum existed for a small number of Vitalogy Foundation charity tickets for the spring 2020 tour, as well as Ohana Fest. Nowhere near as many available/set aside as other artists, but they existed.
It did for sure and at least that was for a good cause. Still hard to see some of the best seats with full rows going over $750 a ticket charity or not.
The EV platinum tickets aren’t even for charity, and aren’t even that good of seats TBH.
DC '03 - Reading '04 - Philly '05 - Camden 1 '06 - DC '06 - E. Rutherford '06 - The Vic '07 - Lollapalooza '07 - DC '08 - EV DC 1 & 2 '08 (Met Ed!!) - EV Baltimore 1 & 2 '09 - EV NYC 1 '11 (Met Ed!) - Hartford '13 - GCF '15 - MSG 2 '16 - TOTD MSG '16 - Boston 1 & 2 '18 - SHN '21 - EV NYC 1 & 2 '22 - MSG '22
2017 - DMB takes the year off, Dave & Tim tour, start of Platinum for Dave, DMB follows suit in 2018 2021 - PJ currently off tour, Ed & Friends tour, start of Platinum for Eddie, ....
Going to be a lot of pissed off people if that happens.
And a lot of cucks who defend it as "evolving". "It's not 1995 anymore!!"
"It's basic economics of supply and demand duh" Can't wait to read that 1000x
2017 - DMB takes the year off, Dave & Tim tour, start of Platinum for Dave, DMB follows suit in 2018 2021 - PJ currently off tour, Ed & Friends tour, start of Platinum for Eddie, ....
Going to be a lot of pissed off people if that happens.
And a lot of cucks who defend it as "evolving". "It's not 1995 anymore!!"
Price increases all set the same is one thing to be upset about. Going in blind for a public sale and seeing $1000 platinum tickets is another thing all together. Venues sell out so fast some people definitely overpaid today in worry that if they released the tickets they would be shut out.
2017 - DMB takes the year off, Dave & Tim tour, start of Platinum for Dave, DMB follows suit in 2018 2021 - PJ currently off tour, Ed & Friends tour, start of Platinum for Eddie, ....
Going to be a lot of pissed off people if that happens.
Platinum existed for a small number of Vitalogy Foundation charity tickets for the spring 2020 tour, as well as Ohana Fest. Nowhere near as many available/set aside as other artists, but they existed.
It did for sure and at least that was for a good cause. Still hard to see some of the best seats with full rows going over $750 a ticket charity or not.
The EV platinum tickets aren’t even for charity, and aren’t even that good of seats TBH.
Was talking about spring 2020 shows and you are def right.
2017 - DMB takes the year off, Dave & Tim tour, start of Platinum for Dave, DMB follows suit in 2018 2021 - PJ currently off tour, Ed & Friends tour, start of Platinum for Eddie, ....
Going to be a lot of pissed off people if that happens.
And a lot of cucks who defend it as "evolving". "It's not 1995 anymore!!"
Price increases all set the same is one thing to be upset about. Going in blind for a public sale and seeing $1000 platinum tickets is another thing all together. Venues sell out so fast some people definitely overpaid today in worry that if they released the tickets they would be shut out.
Fear is a powerful motivator that TM and plenty of other companies capitalize on.
DC '03 - Reading '04 - Philly '05 - Camden 1 '06 - DC '06 - E. Rutherford '06 - The Vic '07 - Lollapalooza '07 - DC '08 - EV DC 1 & 2 '08 (Met Ed!!) - EV Baltimore 1 & 2 '09 - EV NYC 1 '11 (Met Ed!) - Hartford '13 - GCF '15 - MSG 2 '16 - TOTD MSG '16 - Boston 1 & 2 '18 - SHN '21 - EV NYC 1 & 2 '22 - MSG '22
Keep in mind these Platinum priced tickets only happen with the artist’s permission.
I just can't imagine going to a show and sitting next to someone who paid 1/3 the price for essentially the same seat
it would drive me nuts
Me too. I hate paying for first class flights and getting stuck next to an upgrade with points person. Devalues the entire experience 😂
I think you were making the opposite point though like you are the one that overpaid. You didn’t. They got a below market ticket (like a free upgrade) you paid what they are worth
Keep in mind these Platinum priced tickets only happen with the artist’s permission.
Yes and no. The artist can certainly fight this, but TM/Live Nation can also require it for their venues. No platinum priced tickets = no venue.....no ticket distribution
I'm not sure this is the case. 100% true that platinum tickets happen with the permission of the band. I'm just not sure Live Nation can force the practice unless you are signed as a Live Nation artist like U2 is. In this case, as previously mentioned by someone - PJ would get a guaranteed some of money for each tour date and would have no control over ticket pricing, merch, etc.
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In essence there's usually a gap between a ticket price and what a broker/scalper can sell it for. That's because many artists sell their tickets below cost value. Platinum basically tries to close this cap and earn what would normally go to a scalper/broker.
In this case though, with 10c and verified fan tickets only, and no transferring, you would think scalping would be minimal.
Now I can see Platinum tix for Seattle and the prices are a bit steep. Seattle 2 is showing tix from $510 - $990 for platinum pricing. I also see a few seats that are locked out to a code.
So does Verified fan mean you get first crack an steep ticket prices that go directly to ticketmaster now??? Had a friend that was looking without verified fan and they can't see any tix yet.
I did get a nice warning on the almost $2200 ticket cart that if I sold these I could only see them at face value. That is kind of funny.
Missoula, MT 9-30-12, EV Dallas, TX 11-15-12, EV San Antonio 11-16-12
London, ONT 7-16-13 - Wrigley Field 7-19-13
Charlotte 10-30-13, Dallas 11-15-13, OKC 11-16-13, Seattle 12-6-13
Tulsa 10-8-14, Lincoln 10-9-14, St. Paul 10-19-14, Milwaukee 10-20-14
NYC 9-26-15
Ft Lauderdale 4-8-16, Miami 4-9-16, Tampa 4-11-16, Jacksonville 4-13-16, Pemberton 7-17-16,Wrigley 8-20-16 and 8-22-16
Seattle 8-8-18; 8-10-18, Missoula 8-13-18
Earthlings 2022: Seattle 2-21-222 and 2-22-22, Los Angeles 2-25-22
EV Coeur d’Alene 7-28-23, St Paul 8-31-23 and 9-2-23, Ft Worth 9-13-23 and 9-15-23, EV Seattle 10-23-23 and 10-24-23
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to answer your question verified fan is basically a public onsale, except they filter who can buy tickets. You sign up for it..they view your transaction history on TM, algorithm's try and determine if your the kind of person who would use their ticket, and along with finite tickets, they send out codes to people to buy tickets at the sale time. In it's essence verified fan is basically a vetted public on sale. It's trying to keep people who just opened a new TM account or who frequently resell their tickets from being able to buy. it's not perfect, but I guess it sort of works.
2021 - PJ currently off tour, Ed & Friends tour, start of Platinum for Eddie, ....
i was just pointing out after the uproar over high face value prices for this tour, to me the fact that Platinum pricing was agreed to is far worse. It’s ironic over his stand against Ticketmaster 25 years ago, that Vedder is now allowing his own tickets to be scalped officially.
However, Its normal for the venue, promoter, and TM to take their share of tix. Then we know those tix often go straight to resale. Some bands even do that with their allottment. Whether they maximize value via platinum prices or resale of those tickets. They are going to weasal the $ one way or another. Platinum being an option very well may have been the concession for not allowing transfer or resale as well.
It isn't hard for them to flex their power and essentially make it impossible to tour.
Option 1: We get X number of tickets and can resell
Option 2: We get y number of tickets, no resell, but have platinum pricing
Option 3: Find another venue or ticket distribution option
And a lot of cucks who defend it as "evolving". "It's not 1995 anymore!!"
There are no kings inside the gates of eden
it would drive me nuts
I think you were making the opposite point though like you are the one that overpaid. You didn’t. They got a below market ticket (like a free upgrade) you paid what they are worth
IMHO I'd rather have all tickets sold as 10c at normal rate than some dynamic scalping from TM. "Not for You" all day long.