And you didn’t answer my question about what Columbia University “protecting Jewish students looks like.”
They are trying to protect the families and students that can afford 100k a year for school. And its New York. This state has always supported Jews and Israel. It is politics, for better or worse.
And you didn’t answer my question about what Columbia University “protecting Jewish students looks like.”
They are trying to protect the families and students that can afford 100k a year for school. And it’s New York. This state has always supported Jews and Israel. It is politics, for better or worse.
What specific actions does Columbia University need to take “to protect Jews?” What does “protecting Jews” at Columbia University look like?
And you didn’t answer my question about what Columbia University “protecting Jewish students looks like.”
They are trying to protect the families and students that can afford 100k a year for school. And it’s New York. This state has always supported Jews and Israel. It is politics, for better or worse.
What specific actions does Columbia University need to take “to protect Jews?” What does “protecting Jews” at Columbia University look like?
Kicking the protestors out. Edit: and you misquoted me
The problem I have with subjects like this is the notion that authority always controls people’s behavior, and if an individual acts up in some way, then it must be because the authority didn’t exert enough control. Therefore the answer is more authoritarian control.
And you didn’t answer my question about what Columbia University “protecting Jewish students looks like.”
They are trying to protect the families and students that can afford 100k a year for school. And it’s New York. This state has always supported Jews and Israel. It is politics, for better or worse.
What specific actions does Columbia University need to take “to protect Jews?” What does “protecting Jews” at Columbia University look like?
Kicking the protestors out. Edit: and you misquoted me
How so? You said “they.” Same question to you as to Lerx.
And you didn’t answer my question about what Columbia University “protecting Jewish students looks like.”
They are trying to protect the families and students that can afford 100k a year for school. And it’s New York. This state has always supported Jews and Israel. It is politics, for better or worse.
What specific actions does Columbia University need to take “to protect Jews?” What does “protecting Jews” at Columbia University look like?
Kicking the protestors out. Edit: and you misquoted me
How so? You said “they.” Same question to you as to Lerx.
They means the University and its students without any bias towards religious or ethnic affiliation. Speak your mind. Take a position. Demonstrate. But do not harass or interfere with kids just trying to go to class. This is a tough subject.
EDIT: I never said protect the Jews. Protect the students.
And you didn’t answer my question about what Columbia University “protecting Jewish students looks like.”
They are trying to protect the families and students that can afford 100k a year for school. And it’s New York. This state has always supported Jews and Israel. It is politics, for better or worse.
What specific actions does Columbia University need to take “to protect Jews?” What does “protecting Jews” at Columbia University look like?
Kicking the protestors out. Edit: and you misquoted me
How so? You said “they.” Same question to you as to Lerx.
They means the University and its students without any bias towards religious or ethnic affiliation. Speak your mind. Take a position. Demonstrate. But do not harass or interfere with kids just trying to go to class. This is a tough subject.
EDIT: I never said protect the Jews. Protect the students.
Lerx keeps hammering the point that Jewish students need to be protected at Columbia University and I keep asking what that would like in real terms.
Does what you suggest apply to Hillel? I hate to break it but our wee little cherubs, regardless of sex, ethnicity, religion, sexual orientation, etc. are going to go out in the real world at some point and the real world is an ugly and messy place. Some of which includes Israel’s treatment of Palestinians and the war crimes its committed in Gaza and the West Bank.
At least you admit that “all students” should be protected. But does that apply to Muslim students speaking up for Palestinians, even if Jewish students feel threatened or are upset by it? Part of Israeli strategy is to shut down any and all criticism of Israel at its source through all manner of tactics. College campuses particularly.
All students. If it is peaceful, I have no problem with whatever cause you stand up for. Be kind and speak your mind. But no violence. For better or worse, there are factions that defend their position, for a number of matters. I applaud standing up for yourself. I have said it before, but do not fuck with Israel. They come down hard. There is no easy answer to this problem.
And you didn’t answer my question about what Columbia University “protecting Jewish students looks like.”
They are trying to protect the families and students that can afford 100k a year for school. And it’s New York. This state has always supported Jews and Israel. It is politics, for better or worse.
What specific actions does Columbia University need to take “to protect Jews?” What does “protecting Jews” at Columbia University look like?
Kicking the protestors out. Edit: and you misquoted me
How so? You said “they.” Same question to you as to Lerx.
They means the University and its students without any bias towards religious or ethnic affiliation. Speak your mind. Take a position. Demonstrate. But do not harass or interfere with kids just trying to go to class. This is a tough subject.
EDIT: I never said protect the Jews. Protect the students.
Lerx keeps hammering the point that Jewish students need to be protected at Columbia University and I keep asking what that would like in real terms.
Does what you suggest apply to Hillel? I hate to break it but our wee little cherubs, regardless of sex, ethnicity, religion, sexual orientation, etc. are going to go out in the real world at some point and the real world is an ugly and messy place. Some of which includes Israel’s treatment of Palestinians and the war crimes its committed in Gaza and the West Bank.
At least you admit that “all students” should be protected. But does that apply to Muslim students speaking up for Palestinians, even if Jewish students feel threatened or are upset by it? Part of Israeli strategy is to shut down any and all criticism of Israel at its source through all manner of tactics. College campuses particularly.
From 11.10 this am in this topic in a post right next to one of yours:
“So American citizens who happen to be Jewish and many not deserve to have classes cancelled have their graduation cancelled and be bullied and intimidated in their own country by non citizens? Have property on their campus destroyed? All organized by non citizens? And that commenting is admitting the Ivy League gets more money than Israel from the US?”
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is that not clear? Do I need to pull out the dictionary and provide definition of “many not?” I repeatedly refer to “students” in this topic and you repeatedly highlight religion. Hmmmm. The majority of my posts say “students,” this is one of the few that specify religion, but refer to other students as well.
And you didn’t answer my question about what Columbia University “protecting Jewish students looks like.”
They are trying to protect the families and students that can afford 100k a year for school. And it’s New York. This state has always supported Jews and Israel. It is politics, for better or worse.
What specific actions does Columbia University need to take “to protect Jews?” What does “protecting Jews” at Columbia University look like?
Kicking the protestors out. Edit: and you misquoted me
How so? You said “they.” Same question to you as to Lerx.
They means the University and its students without any bias towards religious or ethnic affiliation. Speak your mind. Take a position. Demonstrate. But do not harass or interfere with kids just trying to go to class. This is a tough subject.
EDIT: I never said protect the Jews. Protect the students.
Lerx keeps hammering the point that Jewish students need to be protected at Columbia University and I keep asking what that would like in real terms.
Does what you suggest apply to Hillel? I hate to break it but our wee little cherubs, regardless of sex, ethnicity, religion, sexual orientation, etc. are going to go out in the real world at some point and the real world is an ugly and messy place. Some of which includes Israel’s treatment of Palestinians and the war crimes its committed in Gaza and the West Bank.
At least you admit that “all students” should be protected. But does that apply to Muslim students speaking up for Palestinians, even if Jewish students feel threatened or are upset by it? Part of Israeli strategy is to shut down any and all criticism of Israel at its source through all manner of tactics. College campuses particularly.
From 11.10 this am in this topic in a post right next to one of yours:
“So American citizens who happen to be Jewish and many not deserve to have classes cancelled have their graduation cancelled and be bullied and intimidated in their own country by non citizens? Have property on their campus destroyed? All organized by non citizens? And that commenting is admitting the Ivy League gets more money than Israel from the US?”
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is that not clear? Do I need to pull out the dictionary and provide definition of “many not?” I repeatedly refer to “students” in this topic and you repeatedly highlight religion. Hmmmm. The majority of my posts say “students,” this is one of the few that specify religion, but refer to other students as well.
Many not = all? Hmmmmm. Okay, now that that is cleared up, what does keeping students safe a Columbia University look like when you have any group espousing ideas? You specifically referenced “Jewish” students and it was you who inserted religion at the jump.
All students. If it is peaceful, I have no problem with whatever cause you stand up for. Be kind and speak your mind. But no violence. For better or worse, there are factions that defend their position, for a number of matters. I applaud standing up for yourself. I have said it before, but do not fuck with Israel. They come down hard. There is no easy answer to this problem.
And there you have it, the free pass. Just ask the USS Liberty survivors or the US green card holder being detained in the US sans charges.
Hear that everyone? Don’t fuck/critize/ condemn Israel. You might get a ………….
All students. If it is peaceful, I have no problem with whatever cause you stand up for. Be kind and speak your mind. But no violence. For better or worse, there are factions that defend their position, for a number of matters. I applaud standing up for yourself. I have said it before, but do not fuck with Israel. They come down hard. There is no easy answer to this problem.
And there you have it, the free pass. Just ask the USS Liberty survivors or the US green card holder being detained in the US sans charges.
Hear that everyone? Don’t fuck/critize/ condemn Israel. You might get a ………….
You should have highlighted my last sentence. There is no free pass. I did not say to not criticize them. But if you decide to fight them, know what you are in for. It is political science, warfare intelligence. Just people fighting an age old war that we will never truly comprehend as Americans. Maybe the Boston tea party, the battle of Gettysburg, but we figured it out. We have more land. There is no easy answer to this problem.
All students. If it is peaceful, I have no problem with whatever cause you stand up for. Be kind and speak your mind. But no violence. For better or worse, there are factions that defend their position, for a number of matters. I applaud standing up for yourself. I have said it before, but do not fuck with Israel. They come down hard. There is no easy answer to this problem.
And there you have it, the free pass. Just ask the USS Liberty survivors or the US green card holder being detained in the US sans charges.
Hear that everyone? Don’t fuck/critize/ condemn Israel. You might get a ………….
You should have highlighted my last sentence. There is no free pass. I did not say to not criticize them. But if you decide to fight them, know what you are in for. It is political science, warfare intelligence. Just people fighting an age old war that we will never truly comprehend as Americans. Maybe the Boston tea party, the battle of Gettysburg, but we figured it out. We have more land. There is no easy answer to this problem.
The “problem” of the Israeli occupation of Gaza and the West Bank and its treatment of Palestinians should not be rolled into or conflated with the “problem” of exercising first amendment rights and speaking out against Israeli war crimes in the US.
And how are the Palestinians treating the Israelis? There are no good answers here.
The Palestinians are not dropping 2000 pound US supplied bombs on Israeli houses or apartment complexes full of women and children.
Anyone paying attention knows there are no easy answers but the acceptance by Bibi of flattening Gaza and COOTWH suggesting that the Palestinians “go live somewhere else” is abhorrent and is not a solution, nevermind part of the solution. Ethnic cleansing should never be accepted.
When will Israel’s blood lust body count quench their thirst of revenge? 48,000+ to 1,200, 40:1, give or take, not enough? When does Israel “defeat Hamas”?
And how are the Palestinians treating the Israelis? There are no good answers here.
The Palestinians are not dropping 2000 pound US supplied bombs on Israeli houses or apartment complexes full of women and children.
Anyone paying attention knows there are no easy answers but the acceptance by Bibi of flattening Gaza and COOTWH suggesting that the Palestinians “go live somewhere else” is abhorrent and is not a solution, nevermind part of the solution. Ethnic cleansing should never be accepted.
seems like that was a lesson the world could have learned about 80 yrs ago or so?
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And you didn’t answer my question about what Columbia University “protecting Jewish students looks like.”
They are trying to protect the families and students that can afford 100k a year for school. And it’s New York. This state has always supported Jews and Israel. It is politics, for better or worse.
What specific actions does Columbia University need to take “to protect Jews?” What does “protecting Jews” at Columbia University look like?
Kicking the protestors out. Edit: and you misquoted me
How so? You said “they.” Same question to you as to Lerx.
They means the University and its students without any bias towards religious or ethnic affiliation. Speak your mind. Take a position. Demonstrate. But do not harass or interfere with kids just trying to go to class. This is a tough subject.
EDIT: I never said protect the Jews. Protect the students.
Lerx keeps hammering the point that Jewish students need to be protected at Columbia University and I keep asking what that would like in real terms.
Does what you suggest apply to Hillel? I hate to break it but our wee little cherubs, regardless of sex, ethnicity, religion, sexual orientation, etc. are going to go out in the real world at some point and the real world is an ugly and messy place. Some of which includes Israel’s treatment of Palestinians and the war crimes its committed in Gaza and the West Bank.
At least you admit that “all students” should be protected. But does that apply to Muslim students speaking up for Palestinians, even if Jewish students feel threatened or are upset by it? Part of Israeli strategy is to shut down any and all criticism of Israel at its source through all manner of tactics. College campuses particularly.
From 11.10 this am in this topic in a post right next to one of yours:
“So American citizens who happen to be Jewish and many not deserve to have classes cancelled have their graduation cancelled and be bullied and intimidated in their own country by non citizens? Have property on their campus destroyed? All organized by non citizens? And that commenting is admitting the Ivy League gets more money than Israel from the US?”
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is that not clear? Do I need to pull out the dictionary and provide definition of “many not?” I repeatedly refer to “students” in this topic and you repeatedly highlight religion. Hmmmm. The majority of my posts say “students,” this is one of the few that specify religion, but refer to other students as well.
YOU highlighted religion with YOUR post regarding reporting by the BBC, back on page 15, with the following headline:
Trump pulls $400m from Columbia University, saying it failed to protect Jewish students
YOU didn’t edit that headline, YOU chose and posted a headline that referred to “Jewish students.” Dont blame those who then question YOU on it. Can you answer my question(s)?
Need a recap? Answer Mickey’s as well in the interest of discussion. It’s a yes/no.
What does Columbia University “protecting Jews” look like? Because the COOTWH Administration said it, it must be true, eh?
Game, set and match, even nbc can’t bail out that assertion
“… if the State Department has “reasonable ground to believe that a noncitizen’s presence or activities in the country would have serious adverse foreign policy consequences, then that person is deportable, and so even a green card holder can be deportable on those grounds.”
Thanks for expressing your agreement with a fascist state. Good thing you’re around protecting democracy. Why am I not surprised? Because you, and many others may not read it, from A Letter From An American:
As the administration’s economic policies are rocking the economy, the administration’s arrest and detention of Mahmoud Khalil, a 30-year-old Syrian-born Palestinian activist who figured prominently in the Gaza Solidarity Encampment at Columbia University last April, seems designed to rock society. According to Democracy Now, Khalil is an Algerian citizen, but he holds a U.S. green card and is married to a U.S. citizen who is 8 months pregnant.
Shortly after he took office, Trump issued an executive order saying he would revoke the student visas of anyone he claimed sympathized with Hamas. On Saturday, agents from U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) arrested Khalil. Khalil’s lawyer said that ICE agents claimed they were acting on the orders of the State Department to revoke Khalil’s student visa, apparently unaware that Khalil, who graduated from Columbia’s School of International and Public Affairs in December 2024, is a lawful permanent resident of the United States. When his wife showed officers documents proving that status, the lawyer said, an officer said they were revoking his green card instead. He is apparently being held in Louisiana.
The revocation of a green card is very rare. The Associated Press noted that the Department of Homeland Security can begin the process of deportation for lawful permanent residents who are connected to alleged criminal activity. But Khalil hasn’t been charged with a crime. Nik Popli of Time magazine notes that a green card holder can be deported for supporting terrorist groups, but in that case the government must have material evidence. A Homeland Security spokesperson did not offer any such evidence, saying simply that Khalil’s arrest was “in support of President Trump’s executive orders prohibiting anti-Semitism” and that Khalil “led activities aligned to Hamas, a designated terrorist organization.”
That is, the Trump administration has arrested and detained a legal resident for expressing an opinion that Trump officials don’t like, likely using Khalil to launch this extraordinary attack on the First Amendment because they don’t expect Americans to care deeply about his fate. Once the principle is established that the government can arrest and jail protesters, though, officials will use it to silence opposition broadly. “This is the first arrest of many to come,” Trump posted just after noon. “We know there are more students at Columbia who have engaged in pro-terrorist, anti-Semitic, anti-American activity, and the Trump Administration will not tolerate it.”
Representative Greg Casar (D-TX) posted: “This is illegal, and it endangers the rights of all Americans. In this country, people must be free to express their views—left or right, popular or unpopular—without being detained or punished by the government.” On this basic principle, Americans across the political spectrum appear to agree. Right-wing pundit Ann Coulter was one of those who stepped back from the idea of arrests and deportations of those expressing opinions. “There’s almost no one I don’t want to deport,” she posted, “but, unless they’ve committed a crime, isn’t this a violation of the first amendment?”
Today, U.S. District Judge Jesse M. Furman ordered that Khalil “shall not be removed from the United States unless and until the Court orders otherwise,” and ordered a hearing on Wednesday.
Get your jackboots polished, there’s some libraries and bookstores to storm.
It might be rare, but those are the rules. It’s rare because most who emigrate here do not support and organize rallies for enemies of the USA.
He came here for a better life, and thanked this country by supporting a terrorist organization. And after you sift thru the liberal media and those long posts, you’ll find out deportation is perfectly legal in this case. So we should now break the law or rules to support terrorism?
Edit, and I can also support the judges ruling, better he receive due process. We know where that path ends up.
And we know Trump’s motive is to attack the educational system and suppress freedom of expression on campuses, and not fight anti-semitism.
We spent $400 million of our money for an institution allegedly supporting anti American protests. Where else does this nonsense happen?
I don’t know what was anti-American about it. Exercising free speech via assembly is pro-American as far as I’m concerned. Where does any western country with higher levels of freedom try to punish schools because the students did something the government disapprove of?
Why the heck are taxpayers subsidizing a school with BILLIONS in its endowment?
So it wasn’t your classes canceled or classrooms destroyed? Taking over a university, preventing students from receiving their extremely expensive education, while rallying hate against America and its policies. If he were a citizen sure. But here on a green card? The law and immigration rules are not so clear.
All from someone who is not a citizen. Let him get his day in court. Let him express his hatred of a group of Americans in front of a judge.
Whoops, somebody doesn't understand how university research works!
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
And you didn’t answer my question about what Columbia University “protecting Jewish students looks like.”
They are trying to protect the families and students that can afford 100k a year for school. And it’s New York. This state has always supported Jews and Israel. It is politics, for better or worse.
What specific actions does Columbia University need to take “to protect Jews?” What does “protecting Jews” at Columbia University look like?
Kicking the protestors out. Edit: and you misquoted me
How so? You said “they.” Same question to you as to Lerx.
They means the University and its students without any bias towards religious or ethnic affiliation. Speak your mind. Take a position. Demonstrate. But do not harass or interfere with kids just trying to go to class. This is a tough subject.
EDIT: I never said protect the Jews. Protect the students.
Lerx keeps hammering the point that Jewish students need to be protected at Columbia University and I keep asking what that would like in real terms.
Does what you suggest apply to Hillel? I hate to break it but our wee little cherubs, regardless of sex, ethnicity, religion, sexual orientation, etc. are going to go out in the real world at some point and the real world is an ugly and messy place. Some of which includes Israel’s treatment of Palestinians and the war crimes its committed in Gaza and the West Bank.
At least you admit that “all students” should be protected. But does that apply to Muslim students speaking up for Palestinians, even if Jewish students feel threatened or are upset by it? Part of Israeli strategy is to shut down any and all criticism of Israel at its source through all manner of tactics. College campuses particularly.
From 11.10 this am in this topic in a post right next to one of yours:
“So American citizens who happen to be Jewish and many not deserve to have classes cancelled have their graduation cancelled and be bullied and intimidated in their own country by non citizens? Have property on their campus destroyed? All organized by non citizens? And that commenting is admitting the Ivy League gets more money than Israel from the US?”
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is that not clear? Do I need to pull out the dictionary and provide definition of “many not?” I repeatedly refer to “students” in this topic and you repeatedly highlight religion. Hmmmm. The majority of my posts say “students,” this is one of the few that specify religion, but refer to other students as well.
YOU highlighted religion with YOUR post regarding reporting by the BBC, back on page 15, with the following headline:
Trump pulls $400m from Columbia University, saying it failed to protect Jewish students
YOU didn’t edit that headline, YOU chose and posted a headline that referred to “Jewish students.” Dont blame those who then question YOU on it. Can you answer my question(s)?
Need a recap? Answer Mickey’s as well in the interest of discussion. It’s a yes/no.
You do not understand why I posted a link to that article. The text I SAID, was something like …do you like how this worked out. Try to think what that might mean…you had Biden, now u have trump. But u ran to religion. Palestine should have known what protesting Biden and attacking Israel with Biden in the WH and trump looking to return. Absolute idiotic geopolitics from Gaza.
People protested Biden policy, and he lost some Jewish and Muslim voters. Mass protests are horrible for the party in the WH. As is attacking Israel during a cease fire. A big reason trump is president is Hamas.
Now the unfortunate Palestinians are dealing with trump. Nice move sending their people here illegally to protest. Yes I am sure u read the news today. The next protester getting deported was here on an expired visa. Palestine exporting crime to the USA. Nice job picking sides.
and for the extremists on this topic, crying that somehow it’s americas responsibility to separate the people from hamas. Why don’t y’all go to Gaza and protest its policies there. For sure you know why you’d never have the courage to do that. So perhaps stop supporting extremist policies and consider the damage of your cause. You’d NEVER protest there but cry when those illegally do it here.
Your protest “analogy” makes zero sense. People are protesting in the US because a big reason they’re dying over there is because of US government money and support.
"every society honours its live conformists and its dead troublemakers"
And you didn’t answer my question about what Columbia University “protecting Jewish students looks like.”
They are trying to protect the families and students that can afford 100k a year for school. And it’s New York. This state has always supported Jews and Israel. It is politics, for better or worse.
What specific actions does Columbia University need to take “to protect Jews?” What does “protecting Jews” at Columbia University look like?
Kicking the protestors out. Edit: and you misquoted me
How so? You said “they.” Same question to you as to Lerx.
They means the University and its students without any bias towards religious or ethnic affiliation. Speak your mind. Take a position. Demonstrate. But do not harass or interfere with kids just trying to go to class. This is a tough subject.
EDIT: I never said protect the Jews. Protect the students.
Lerx keeps hammering the point that Jewish students need to be protected at Columbia University and I keep asking what that would like in real terms.
Does what you suggest apply to Hillel? I hate to break it but our wee little cherubs, regardless of sex, ethnicity, religion, sexual orientation, etc. are going to go out in the real world at some point and the real world is an ugly and messy place. Some of which includes Israel’s treatment of Palestinians and the war crimes its committed in Gaza and the West Bank.
At least you admit that “all students” should be protected. But does that apply to Muslim students speaking up for Palestinians, even if Jewish students feel threatened or are upset by it? Part of Israeli strategy is to shut down any and all criticism of Israel at its source through all manner of tactics. College campuses particularly.
From 11.10 this am in this topic in a post right next to one of yours:
“So American citizens who happen to be Jewish and many not deserve to have classes cancelled have their graduation cancelled and be bullied and intimidated in their own country by non citizens? Have property on their campus destroyed? All organized by non citizens? And that commenting is admitting the Ivy League gets more money than Israel from the US?”
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is that not clear? Do I need to pull out the dictionary and provide definition of “many not?” I repeatedly refer to “students” in this topic and you repeatedly highlight religion. Hmmmm. The majority of my posts say “students,” this is one of the few that specify religion, but refer to other students as well.
YOU highlighted religion with YOUR post regarding reporting by the BBC, back on page 15, with the following headline:
Trump pulls $400m from Columbia University, saying it failed to protect Jewish students
YOU didn’t edit that headline, YOU chose and posted a headline that referred to “Jewish students.” Dont blame those who then question YOU on it. Can you answer my question(s)?
Need a recap? Answer Mickey’s as well in the interest of discussion. It’s a yes/no.
You do not understand why I posted a link to that article. The text I SAID, was something like …do you like how this worked out. Try to think what that might mean…you had Biden, now u have trump. But u ran to religion. Palestine should have known what protesting Biden and attacking Israel with Biden in the WH and trump looking to return. Absolute idiotic geopolitics from Gaza.
People protested Biden policy, and he lost some Jewish and Muslim voters. Mass protests are horrible for the party in the WH. As is attacking Israel during a cease fire. A big reason trump is president is Hamas.
Now the unfortunate Palestinians are dealing with trump. Nice move sending their people here illegally to protest. Yes I am sure u read the news today. The next protester getting deported was here on an expired visa. Palestine exporting crime to the USA. Nice job picking sides.
and for the extremists on this topic, crying that somehow it’s americas responsibility to separate the people from hamas. Why don’t y’all go to Gaza and protest its policies there. For sure you know why you’d never have the courage to do that. So perhaps stop supporting extremist policies and consider the damage of your cause. You’d NEVER protest there but cry when those illegally do it here.
We know what happens when you protest Israel in Israel, the West Bank or Gaza. You get shot in the head or run over by bulldozers by the IDF. Here it seems you’ll be detained without charges.
YOU specifically injected religion into the conversation with the headline YOU chose to post. YOUR post didn’t clarify YOUR position or what YOU thought about it. YOU seemingly posted it for a reaction and one that YOU got. Now YOU’RE crying about it and claiming YOU’RE somehow a victim of something.
I’ll ask YOU again, what does Columbia University protecting Jewish students (YOUR headline) look like?
Do YOU equate all Palestinians as Hamas, yes or no?
What tangible benefits do the United States tax payers receive from the $4B+ in annual tax payer dollars?
How many Palestinians need to die for the Israeli blood lust to be quenched?
whoops somebody doesn’t understand american taxpayers funding their substandard “free” healthcare
Substandard? 😂 look at infant mortality rates in your country compared to ours. Or really, any first world country. You don’t have a clue.
And it’s also just a deflection from her point. So clearly you don’t understand that either.
As Ive said, you are an expert circumventing the rules here. Everyone is good at something!
Now for a lesson in logic because you seemingly think your patriot is not capable of self defence, wonder why. Must be something going around on this continent
Yes America has issues with mortality rates. The cause of that is very different from the level of Health Care available here. She attacked my comment and I responded in a manner I see fit.
The level of care I can receive by jumping in my car and driving 30 minutes is the absolute best on planet earth.
I can easily claim you do not have access to that level of care. You would have to travel 1,000 k or whatever the hell that is to get anything close to the level of Health Care I can get from a close car ride.
Maybe do a better job reading my comments if you going to continue to attack almost every comment I make here... and somehow you do it cleverly... the one thing you do with skill is skirting the rules here
And you didn’t answer my question about what Columbia University “protecting Jewish students looks like.”
They are trying to protect the families and students that can afford 100k a year for school. And it’s New York. This state has always supported Jews and Israel. It is politics, for better or worse.
What specific actions does Columbia University need to take “to protect Jews?” What does “protecting Jews” at Columbia University look like?
Kicking the protestors out. Edit: and you misquoted me
How so? You said “they.” Same question to you as to Lerx.
They means the University and its students without any bias towards religious or ethnic affiliation. Speak your mind. Take a position. Demonstrate. But do not harass or interfere with kids just trying to go to class. This is a tough subject.
EDIT: I never said protect the Jews. Protect the students.
Lerx keeps hammering the point that Jewish students need to be protected at Columbia University and I keep asking what that would like in real terms.
Does what you suggest apply to Hillel? I hate to break it but our wee little cherubs, regardless of sex, ethnicity, religion, sexual orientation, etc. are going to go out in the real world at some point and the real world is an ugly and messy place. Some of which includes Israel’s treatment of Palestinians and the war crimes its committed in Gaza and the West Bank.
At least you admit that “all students” should be protected. But does that apply to Muslim students speaking up for Palestinians, even if Jewish students feel threatened or are upset by it? Part of Israeli strategy is to shut down any and all criticism of Israel at its source through all manner of tactics. College campuses particularly.
From 11.10 this am in this topic in a post right next to one of yours:
“So American citizens who happen to be Jewish and many not deserve to have classes cancelled have their graduation cancelled and be bullied and intimidated in their own country by non citizens? Have property on their campus destroyed? All organized by non citizens? And that commenting is admitting the Ivy League gets more money than Israel from the US?”
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is that not clear? Do I need to pull out the dictionary and provide definition of “many not?” I repeatedly refer to “students” in this topic and you repeatedly highlight religion. Hmmmm. The majority of my posts say “students,” this is one of the few that specify religion, but refer to other students as well.
YOU highlighted religion with YOUR post regarding reporting by the BBC, back on page 15, with the following headline:
Trump pulls $400m from Columbia University, saying it failed to protect Jewish students
YOU didn’t edit that headline, YOU chose and posted a headline that referred to “Jewish students.” Dont blame those who then question YOU on it. Can you answer my question(s)?
Need a recap? Answer Mickey’s as well in the interest of discussion. It’s a yes/no.
You do not understand why I posted a link to that article. The text I SAID, was something like …do you like how this worked out. Try to think what that might mean…you had Biden, now u have trump. But u ran to religion. Palestine should have known what protesting Biden and attacking Israel with Biden in the WH and trump looking to return. Absolute idiotic geopolitics from Gaza.
People protested Biden policy, and he lost some Jewish and Muslim voters. Mass protests are horrible for the party in the WH. As is attacking Israel during a cease fire. A big reason trump is president is Hamas.
Now the unfortunate Palestinians are dealing with trump. Nice move sending their people here illegally to protest. Yes I am sure u read the news today. The next protester getting deported was here on an expired visa. Palestine exporting crime to the USA. Nice job picking sides.
and for the extremists on this topic, crying that somehow it’s americas responsibility to separate the people from hamas. Why don’t y’all go to Gaza and protest its policies there. For sure you know why you’d never have the courage to do that. So perhaps stop supporting extremist policies and consider the damage of your cause. You’d NEVER protest there but cry when those illegally do it here.
We know what happens when you protest Israel in Israel, the West Bank or Gaza. You get shot in the head or run over by bulldozers by the IDF. Here it seems you’ll be detained without charges.
YOU specifically injected religion into the conversation with the headline YOU chose to post. YOUR post didn’t clarify YOUR position or what YOU thought about it. YOU seemingly posted it for a reaction and one that YOU got. Now YOU’RE crying about it and claiming YOU’RE somehow a victim of something.
I’ll ask YOU again, what does Columbia University protecting Jewish students (YOUR headline) look like?
Do YOU equate all Palestinians as Hamas, yes or no?
What tangible benefits do the United States tax payers receive from the $4B+ in annual tax payer dollars?
How many Palestinians need to die for the Israeli blood lust to be quenched?
You’ve already called me an antisemite.
Your extremist views are isolated against one country. Ive asked repeatedly about the murders of m.slims in syria and China. No reply.
You are replying to a comment about the geopolitical stupidness of Palestine with more whataboutisms.
Thats The reason I posted that article u keep asking about. To highlight their geopolitical stupidness
How many times do you require the same explanation to your first question here?
1. Anyone is free to comment on any post in an open forum. Including you. And you have. Are you saying you exclusively respond only to posts directed towards you? I’m not defending anyone or coming to anyone’s defence.
2. Tell me what rules I’m breaking with your constant whining about me circumventing the rules.
"every society honours its live conformists and its dead troublemakers"
When my wife was having both our kids, we had private rooms, nearly one to one care round the clock, from when she went into labour until discharge.
Know how much it cost us? $0 out of pocket.
When I had appendicitis, I was operated on within an hour of arriving. Discharged with full bill of health the next day. $0 out of pocket.
Have I had to wait for an MRI for something non-emergency? Yep. And I’m ok with that. We have the option of doing private clinics in this same province, 30-40 minutes away, immediately. So yeah, “substandard care” my ass.
Once again, don’t have a clue.
"every society honours its live conformists and its dead troublemakers"
And one last comment in this topic that you derailed us into: if you’re bragging about a standard of care that only caters to those that can afford it, that’s a shitty fucking standard.
"every society honours its live conformists and its dead troublemakers"
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They are trying to protect the families and students that can afford 100k a year for school. And its New York. This state has always supported Jews and Israel. It is politics, for better or worse.
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Kicking the protestors out.
Edit: and you misquoted me
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They means the University and its students without any bias towards religious or ethnic affiliation. Speak your mind. Take a position. Demonstrate. But do not harass or interfere with kids just trying to go to class. This is a tough subject.
EDIT: I never said protect the Jews. Protect the students.
Does what you suggest apply to Hillel? I hate to break it but our wee little cherubs, regardless of sex, ethnicity, religion, sexual orientation, etc. are going to go out in the real world at some point and the real world is an ugly and messy place. Some of which includes Israel’s treatment of Palestinians and the war crimes its committed in Gaza and the West Bank.
At least you admit that “all students” should be protected. But does that apply to Muslim students speaking up for Palestinians, even if Jewish students feel threatened or are upset by it? Part of Israeli strategy is to shut down any and all criticism of Israel at its source through all manner of tactics. College campuses particularly.
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is that not clear? Do I need to pull out the dictionary and provide definition of “many not?” I repeatedly refer to “students” in this topic and you repeatedly highlight religion. Hmmmm. The majority of my posts say “students,” this is one of the few that specify religion, but refer to other students as well.
Can you answer my question?
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Hear that everyone? Don’t fuck/critize/ condemn Israel. You might get a ………….
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Anyone paying attention knows there are no easy answers but the acceptance by Bibi of flattening Gaza and COOTWH suggesting that the Palestinians “go live somewhere else” is abhorrent and is not a solution, nevermind part of the solution. Ethnic cleansing should never be accepted.
When will Israel’s blood lust body count quench their thirst of revenge? 48,000+ to 1,200, 40:1, give or take, not enough? When does Israel “defeat Hamas”?
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seems like that was a lesson the world could have learned about 80 yrs ago or so?
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Trump pulls $400m from Columbia University, saying it failed to protect Jewish students
Need a recap? Answer Mickey’s as well in the interest of discussion. It’s a yes/no.
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Whoops, somebody doesn't understand how university research works!
Now the unfortunate Palestinians are dealing with trump. Nice move sending their people here illegally to protest. Yes I am sure u read the news today. The next protester getting deported was here on an expired visa. Palestine exporting crime to the USA. Nice job picking sides.
and for the extremists on this topic, crying that somehow it’s americas responsibility to separate the people from hamas. Why don’t y’all go to Gaza and protest its policies there. For sure you know why you’d never have the courage to do that. So perhaps stop supporting extremist policies and consider the damage of your cause. You’d NEVER protest there but cry when those illegally do it here.
YOU specifically injected religion into the conversation with the headline YOU chose to post. YOUR post didn’t clarify YOUR position or what YOU thought about it. YOU seemingly posted it for a reaction and one that YOU got. Now YOU’RE crying about it and claiming YOU’RE somehow a victim of something.
I’ll ask YOU again, what does Columbia University protecting Jewish students (YOUR headline) look like?
Do YOU equate all Palestinians as Hamas, yes or no?
What tangible benefits do the United States tax payers receive from the $4B+ in annual tax payer dollars?
How many Palestinians need to die for the Israeli blood lust to be quenched?
You’ve already called me an antisemite.
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As Ive said, you are an expert circumventing the rules here. Everyone is good at something!
Now for a lesson in logic because you seemingly think your patriot is not capable of self defence, wonder why.
Must be something going around on this continent
Yes America has issues with mortality rates. The cause of that is very different from the level of Health Care available here. She attacked my comment and I responded in a manner I see fit.
The level of care I can receive by jumping in my car and driving 30 minutes is the absolute best on planet earth.
I can easily claim you do not have access to that level of care. You would have to travel 1,000 k or whatever the hell that is to get anything close to the level of Health Care I can get from a close car ride.
Maybe do a better job reading my comments if you going to continue to attack almost every comment I make here... and somehow you do it cleverly... the one thing you do with skill is skirting the rules here
Your extremist views are isolated against one country. Ive asked repeatedly about the murders of m.slims in syria and China. No reply.
You are replying to a comment about the geopolitical stupidness of Palestine with more whataboutisms.
Thats The reason I posted that article u keep asking about. To highlight their geopolitical stupidness
How many times do you require the same explanation to your first question here?