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  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 12,139
    edited March 11
    That is, the Trump administration has arrested and detained a legal resident for expressing an opinion that Trump officials don’t like, likely using Khalil to launch this extraordinary attack on the First Amendment because they don’t expect Americans to care deeply about his fate. Once the principle is established that the government can arrest and jail protesters, though, officials will use it to silence opposition broadly. “This is the first arrest of many to come,” Trump posted just after noon. “We know there are more students at Columbia who have engaged in pro-terrorist, anti-Semitic, anti-American activity, and the Trump Administration will not tolerate it.”

    I'm sure nothing bad could come about from allowing this administration to go after people for "anti-American activity".
  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,133
    mickeyrat said:
    What does Columbia University “protecting Jews” look like? Because the COOTWH Administration said it, it must be true, eh?
    Game, set and match, even nbc can’t bail out that assertion 

    “… if the State Department has “reasonable ground to believe that a noncitizen’s presence or activities in the country would have serious adverse foreign policy consequences, then that person is deportable, and so even a green card holder can be deportable on those grounds.”
    Thanks for expressing your agreement with a fascist state. Good thing you’re around protecting democracy. Why am I not surprised? Because you, and many others may not read it, from A Letter From An American:

    As the administration’s economic policies are rocking the economy, the administration’s arrest and detention of Mahmoud Khalil, a 30-year-old Syrian-born Palestinian activist who figured prominently in the Gaza Solidarity Encampment at Columbia University last April, seems designed to rock society. According to Democracy Now, Khalil is an Algerian citizen, but he holds a U.S. green card and is married to a U.S. citizen who is 8 months pregnant. 

    Shortly after he took office, Trump issued an executive order saying he would revoke the student visas of anyone he claimed sympathized with Hamas. On Saturday, agents from U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) arrested Khalil. Khalil’s lawyer said that ICE agents claimed they were acting on the orders of the State Department to revoke Khalil’s student visa, apparently unaware that Khalil, who graduated from Columbia’s School of International and Public Affairs in December 2024, is a lawful permanent resident of the United States. When his wife showed officers documents proving that status, the lawyer said, an officer said they were revoking his green card instead. He is apparently being held in Louisiana. 

    The revocation of a green card is very rare. The Associated Press noted that the Department of Homeland Security can begin the process of deportation for lawful permanent residents who are connected to alleged criminal activity. But Khalil hasn’t been charged with a crime. Nik Popli of Time magazine notes that a green card holder can be deported for supporting terrorist groups, but in that case the government must have material evidence. A Homeland Security spokesperson did not offer any such evidence, saying simply that Khalil’s arrest was “in support of President Trump’s executive orders prohibiting anti-Semitism” and that Khalil “led activities aligned to Hamas, a designated terrorist organization.” 

    That is, the Trump administration has arrested and detained a legal resident for expressing an opinion that Trump officials don’t like, likely using Khalil to launch this extraordinary attack on the First Amendment because they don’t expect Americans to care deeply about his fate. Once the principle is established that the government can arrest and jail protesters, though, officials will use it to silence opposition broadly. “This is the first arrest of many to come,” Trump posted just after noon. “We know there are more students at Columbia who have engaged in pro-terrorist, anti-Semitic, anti-American activity, and the Trump Administration will not tolerate it.”

    Representative Greg Casar (D-TX) posted: “This is illegal, and it endangers the rights of all Americans. In this country, people must be free to express their views—left or right, popular or unpopular—without being detained or punished by the government.” On this basic principle, Americans across the political spectrum appear to agree. Right-wing pundit Ann Coulter was one of those who stepped back from the idea of arrests and deportations of those expressing opinions. “There’s almost no one I don’t want to deport,” she posted, “but, unless they’ve committed a crime, isn’t this a violation of the first amendment?” 

    Today, U.S. District Judge Jesse M. Furman ordered that Khalil “shall not be removed from the United States unless and until the Court orders otherwise,” and ordered a hearing on Wednesday.

    Get your jackboots polished, there’s some libraries and bookstores to storm.


    It might be rare, but those are the rules. It’s rare because most who emigrate here do not support and organize rallies for enemies of the USA. 

    He came here for a better life, and thanked this country by supporting a terrorist organization. And after you sift thru the liberal media and those long posts, you’ll find out deportation is perfectly legal in this case. So we should now break the law or rules to support terrorism? 

    Do you equate all Palestinians with Hamas?

    yes or no.

    previous statements leave a strong impression.


    Whataboutisms will not solve this crisis and provide peace. Only good faith negotiations will, and both sides need to work on that. Every Palestinian needs to support and speak publicly for a govt that fully supports that goal. You fully know that’s not true, a d makes your question a whataboutism.

    This dude thanked the US by supporting Hamas and Hezbollah. The govt claims antisemitic behavior. It’s a good lesson for this country to see whether they are correct. Due process.


    I suppose you fear free speech as well? Particularly that with which you disagree with? The truth is a difficult thing to accept, I know.

    Criticizing Israel is anti-Semitic, we get it.

    What does “every” Israeli or Jew have to do in this relationship?


    If you always need to put words in others mouths, do you seriously believe your views survive scrutiny?

    I said in this case due process and the judges decision are good things. Let’s find out where to draw the line between speech and hate speech, at a university receiving public funding and logistical support

    And the rules I posted earlier seem to clearly support the State Dept assertion that this non citizen is deportable.
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 40,575
    That is, the Trump administration has arrested and detained a legal resident for expressing an opinion that Trump officials don’t like, likely using Khalil to launch this extraordinary attack on the First Amendment because they don’t expect Americans to care deeply about his fate. Once the principle is established that the government can arrest and jail protesters, though, officials will use it to silence opposition broadly. “This is the first arrest of many to come,” Trump posted just after noon. “We know there are more students at Columbia who have engaged in pro-terrorist, anti-Semitic, anti-American activity, and the Trump Administration will not tolerate it.”

    I'm sure nothing bad could come about from allowing this administration to go after people for "anti-American activity".
    Actively supported and encouraged by some, even here on these very forums. Because they fear the truth, apparently.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 40,575
    mickeyrat said:
    What does Columbia University “protecting Jews” look like? Because the COOTWH Administration said it, it must be true, eh?
    Game, set and match, even nbc can’t bail out that assertion 

    “… if the State Department has “reasonable ground to believe that a noncitizen’s presence or activities in the country would have serious adverse foreign policy consequences, then that person is deportable, and so even a green card holder can be deportable on those grounds.”
    Thanks for expressing your agreement with a fascist state. Good thing you’re around protecting democracy. Why am I not surprised? Because you, and many others may not read it, from A Letter From An American:

    As the administration’s economic policies are rocking the economy, the administration’s arrest and detention of Mahmoud Khalil, a 30-year-old Syrian-born Palestinian activist who figured prominently in the Gaza Solidarity Encampment at Columbia University last April, seems designed to rock society. According to Democracy Now, Khalil is an Algerian citizen, but he holds a U.S. green card and is married to a U.S. citizen who is 8 months pregnant. 

    Shortly after he took office, Trump issued an executive order saying he would revoke the student visas of anyone he claimed sympathized with Hamas. On Saturday, agents from U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) arrested Khalil. Khalil’s lawyer said that ICE agents claimed they were acting on the orders of the State Department to revoke Khalil’s student visa, apparently unaware that Khalil, who graduated from Columbia’s School of International and Public Affairs in December 2024, is a lawful permanent resident of the United States. When his wife showed officers documents proving that status, the lawyer said, an officer said they were revoking his green card instead. He is apparently being held in Louisiana. 

    The revocation of a green card is very rare. The Associated Press noted that the Department of Homeland Security can begin the process of deportation for lawful permanent residents who are connected to alleged criminal activity. But Khalil hasn’t been charged with a crime. Nik Popli of Time magazine notes that a green card holder can be deported for supporting terrorist groups, but in that case the government must have material evidence. A Homeland Security spokesperson did not offer any such evidence, saying simply that Khalil’s arrest was “in support of President Trump’s executive orders prohibiting anti-Semitism” and that Khalil “led activities aligned to Hamas, a designated terrorist organization.” 

    That is, the Trump administration has arrested and detained a legal resident for expressing an opinion that Trump officials don’t like, likely using Khalil to launch this extraordinary attack on the First Amendment because they don’t expect Americans to care deeply about his fate. Once the principle is established that the government can arrest and jail protesters, though, officials will use it to silence opposition broadly. “This is the first arrest of many to come,” Trump posted just after noon. “We know there are more students at Columbia who have engaged in pro-terrorist, anti-Semitic, anti-American activity, and the Trump Administration will not tolerate it.”

    Representative Greg Casar (D-TX) posted: “This is illegal, and it endangers the rights of all Americans. In this country, people must be free to express their views—left or right, popular or unpopular—without being detained or punished by the government.” On this basic principle, Americans across the political spectrum appear to agree. Right-wing pundit Ann Coulter was one of those who stepped back from the idea of arrests and deportations of those expressing opinions. “There’s almost no one I don’t want to deport,” she posted, “but, unless they’ve committed a crime, isn’t this a violation of the first amendment?” 

    Today, U.S. District Judge Jesse M. Furman ordered that Khalil “shall not be removed from the United States unless and until the Court orders otherwise,” and ordered a hearing on Wednesday.

    Get your jackboots polished, there’s some libraries and bookstores to storm.


    It might be rare, but those are the rules. It’s rare because most who emigrate here do not support and organize rallies for enemies of the USA. 

    He came here for a better life, and thanked this country by supporting a terrorist organization. And after you sift thru the liberal media and those long posts, you’ll find out deportation is perfectly legal in this case. So we should now break the law or rules to support terrorism? 

    Do you equate all Palestinians with Hamas?

    yes or no.

    previous statements leave a strong impression.


    Whataboutisms will not solve this crisis and provide peace. Only good faith negotiations will, and both sides need to work on that. Every Palestinian needs to support and speak publicly for a govt that fully supports that goal. You fully know that’s not true, a d makes your question a whataboutism.

    This dude thanked the US by supporting Hamas and Hezbollah. The govt claims antisemitic behavior. It’s a good lesson for this country to see whether they are correct. Due process.


    I suppose you fear free speech as well? Particularly that with which you disagree with? The truth is a difficult thing to accept, I know.

    Criticizing Israel is anti-Semitic, we get it.

    What does “every” Israeli or Jew have to do in this relationship?


    If you always need to put words in others mouths, do you seriously believe your views survive scrutiny?

    I said in this case due process and the judges decision are good things. Let’s find out where to draw the line between speech and hate speech, at a university receiving public funding and logistical support

    And the rules I posted earlier seem to clearly support the State Dept assertion that this non citizen is deportable.
    Why can’t you ever answer a question?
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 40,575
    Good to see that some are on board with this.

    Lara Trump: Americans should be 'kissing the feet of Elon Musk and Donald Trump'

    Fox News host and former Republican National Committee co-Chair Lara Trump argued Americans should be thankful for the work billionaire Elon Musk is doing on behalf of President Trump to shrink the size and spending of the federal government.

    “Once upon a time, it used to be that there was a bipartisan goal of rooting out fraud, waste, and abuse,” the president’s daughter-in-law said during an appearance on Sean Hannity’s program Monday.

    Multiple legal challenges have been filed against the Trump administration’s sweeping government cuts, with critics saying the White House is breaking the law by halting spending mandated by Congress.

    Lara Trump said Democrats, upset with Musk’s reform efforts, are using “the exact same [methods to] … attack him and take him down at all costs and any cost” that they “used against Donald Trump.”

    “They’re attacking his character, they called him a Nazi, they’re going after his businesses, they’re vandalizing property, they’re doing any and everything they can to this man, and it’s really horrific to see because, what is Elon getting for all of this?” she continued. “This guy is losing money because of what he’s doing, but he understands the importance of this moment. We cannot continue in perpetuity spending the way we are. We cannot survive as a country. So people ought to be kissing the feet of Elon Musk and Donald Trump for being the two people to actually do this.”

    The comments were first highlighted by Mediaite.

    Lara Trump was hired last month to host a weekend evening show on Fox News, the top-rated cable news channel.

    On the campaign trail, Donald Trump regularly complained about Fox’s coverage, but since being elected, he has granted the network exclusive interviews and lightened his criticism.

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  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,366
    What does Columbia University “protecting Jews” look like? Because the COOTWH Administration said it, it must be true, eh?
    Game, set and match, even nbc can’t bail out that assertion 

    “… if the State Department has “reasonable ground to believe that a noncitizen’s presence or activities in the country would have serious adverse foreign policy consequences, then that person is deportable, and so even a green card holder can be deportable on those grounds.”
    Thanks for expressing your agreement with a fascist state. Good thing you’re around protecting democracy. Why am I not surprised? Because you, and many others may not read it, from A Letter From An American:

    As the administration’s economic policies are rocking the economy, the administration’s arrest and detention of Mahmoud Khalil, a 30-year-old Syrian-born Palestinian activist who figured prominently in the Gaza Solidarity Encampment at Columbia University last April, seems designed to rock society. According to Democracy Now, Khalil is an Algerian citizen, but he holds a U.S. green card and is married to a U.S. citizen who is 8 months pregnant. 

    Shortly after he took office, Trump issued an executive order saying he would revoke the student visas of anyone he claimed sympathized with Hamas. On Saturday, agents from U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) arrested Khalil. Khalil’s lawyer said that ICE agents claimed they were acting on the orders of the State Department to revoke Khalil’s student visa, apparently unaware that Khalil, who graduated from Columbia’s School of International and Public Affairs in December 2024, is a lawful permanent resident of the United States. When his wife showed officers documents proving that status, the lawyer said, an officer said they were revoking his green card instead. He is apparently being held in Louisiana. 

    The revocation of a green card is very rare. The Associated Press noted that the Department of Homeland Security can begin the process of deportation for lawful permanent residents who are connected to alleged criminal activity. But Khalil hasn’t been charged with a crime. Nik Popli of Time magazine notes that a green card holder can be deported for supporting terrorist groups, but in that case the government must have material evidence. A Homeland Security spokesperson did not offer any such evidence, saying simply that Khalil’s arrest was “in support of President Trump’s executive orders prohibiting anti-Semitism” and that Khalil “led activities aligned to Hamas, a designated terrorist organization.” 

    That is, the Trump administration has arrested and detained a legal resident for expressing an opinion that Trump officials don’t like, likely using Khalil to launch this extraordinary attack on the First Amendment because they don’t expect Americans to care deeply about his fate. Once the principle is established that the government can arrest and jail protesters, though, officials will use it to silence opposition broadly. “This is the first arrest of many to come,” Trump posted just after noon. “We know there are more students at Columbia who have engaged in pro-terrorist, anti-Semitic, anti-American activity, and the Trump Administration will not tolerate it.”

    Representative Greg Casar (D-TX) posted: “This is illegal, and it endangers the rights of all Americans. In this country, people must be free to express their views—left or right, popular or unpopular—without being detained or punished by the government.” On this basic principle, Americans across the political spectrum appear to agree. Right-wing pundit Ann Coulter was one of those who stepped back from the idea of arrests and deportations of those expressing opinions. “There’s almost no one I don’t want to deport,” she posted, “but, unless they’ve committed a crime, isn’t this a violation of the first amendment?” 

    Today, U.S. District Judge Jesse M. Furman ordered that Khalil “shall not be removed from the United States unless and until the Court orders otherwise,” and ordered a hearing on Wednesday.

    Get your jackboots polished, there’s some libraries and bookstores to storm.


    It might be rare, but those are the rules. It’s rare because most who emigrate here do not support and organize rallies for enemies of the USA. 

    He came here for a better life, and thanked this country by supporting a terrorist organization. And after you sift thru the liberal media and those long posts, you’ll find out deportation is perfectly legal in this case. So we should now break the law or rules to support terrorism? 

    Edit, and I can also support the judges ruling, better he receive due process. We know where that path ends up.
    And we know Trump’s motive is to attack the educational system and suppress freedom
    of expression on campuses, and not fight anti-semitism. 


    We spent $400 million of our money for an institution allegedly supporting anti American protests. Where else does this nonsense happen?
    I don’t know what was anti-American about it. Exercising free speech via assembly is pro-American as far as I’m concerned. Where does any western country with higher levels of freedom try to punish schools because the students did something the government disapprove of? 
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 42,715
    mickeyrat said:
    What does Columbia University “protecting Jews” look like? Because the COOTWH Administration said it, it must be true, eh?
    Game, set and match, even nbc can’t bail out that assertion 

    “… if the State Department has “reasonable ground to believe that a noncitizen’s presence or activities in the country would have serious adverse foreign policy consequences, then that person is deportable, and so even a green card holder can be deportable on those grounds.”
    Thanks for expressing your agreement with a fascist state. Good thing you’re around protecting democracy. Why am I not surprised? Because you, and many others may not read it, from A Letter From An American:

    As the administration’s economic policies are rocking the economy, the administration’s arrest and detention of Mahmoud Khalil, a 30-year-old Syrian-born Palestinian activist who figured prominently in the Gaza Solidarity Encampment at Columbia University last April, seems designed to rock society. According to Democracy Now, Khalil is an Algerian citizen, but he holds a U.S. green card and is married to a U.S. citizen who is 8 months pregnant. 

    Shortly after he took office, Trump issued an executive order saying he would revoke the student visas of anyone he claimed sympathized with Hamas. On Saturday, agents from U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) arrested Khalil. Khalil’s lawyer said that ICE agents claimed they were acting on the orders of the State Department to revoke Khalil’s student visa, apparently unaware that Khalil, who graduated from Columbia’s School of International and Public Affairs in December 2024, is a lawful permanent resident of the United States. When his wife showed officers documents proving that status, the lawyer said, an officer said they were revoking his green card instead. He is apparently being held in Louisiana. 

    The revocation of a green card is very rare. The Associated Press noted that the Department of Homeland Security can begin the process of deportation for lawful permanent residents who are connected to alleged criminal activity. But Khalil hasn’t been charged with a crime. Nik Popli of Time magazine notes that a green card holder can be deported for supporting terrorist groups, but in that case the government must have material evidence. A Homeland Security spokesperson did not offer any such evidence, saying simply that Khalil’s arrest was “in support of President Trump’s executive orders prohibiting anti-Semitism” and that Khalil “led activities aligned to Hamas, a designated terrorist organization.” 

    That is, the Trump administration has arrested and detained a legal resident for expressing an opinion that Trump officials don’t like, likely using Khalil to launch this extraordinary attack on the First Amendment because they don’t expect Americans to care deeply about his fate. Once the principle is established that the government can arrest and jail protesters, though, officials will use it to silence opposition broadly. “This is the first arrest of many to come,” Trump posted just after noon. “We know there are more students at Columbia who have engaged in pro-terrorist, anti-Semitic, anti-American activity, and the Trump Administration will not tolerate it.”

    Representative Greg Casar (D-TX) posted: “This is illegal, and it endangers the rights of all Americans. In this country, people must be free to express their views—left or right, popular or unpopular—without being detained or punished by the government.” On this basic principle, Americans across the political spectrum appear to agree. Right-wing pundit Ann Coulter was one of those who stepped back from the idea of arrests and deportations of those expressing opinions. “There’s almost no one I don’t want to deport,” she posted, “but, unless they’ve committed a crime, isn’t this a violation of the first amendment?” 

    Today, U.S. District Judge Jesse M. Furman ordered that Khalil “shall not be removed from the United States unless and until the Court orders otherwise,” and ordered a hearing on Wednesday.

    Get your jackboots polished, there’s some libraries and bookstores to storm.


    It might be rare, but those are the rules. It’s rare because most who emigrate here do not support and organize rallies for enemies of the USA. 

    He came here for a better life, and thanked this country by supporting a terrorist organization. And after you sift thru the liberal media and those long posts, you’ll find out deportation is perfectly legal in this case. So we should now break the law or rules to support terrorism? 

    Do you equate all Palestinians with Hamas?

    yes or no.

    previous statements leave a strong impression.


    Whataboutisms will not solve this crisis and provide peace. Only good faith negotiations will, and both sides need to work on that. Every Palestinian needs to support and speak publicly for a govt that fully supports that goal. You fully know that’s not true, a d makes your question a whataboutism.

    This dude thanked the US by supporting Hamas and Hezbollah. The govt claims antisemitic behavior. It’s a good lesson for this country to see whether they are correct. Due process.



    I have been asking this question of you for months now and you STILL refuse to answer as asked.

    This answer definitively states you DO believe ALL PALESTINIANS ARE HAMAS
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    protests are anti-american now? interesting. 
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,223
    I'm just wondering what Trump's big, aggressive move against all those neo-Nazi groups across America who fly Trump flags amongst their swastikas and confederate flags is going to be, now that he is looking to end anti-semitism in America.
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    PJ_Soul said:
    I'm just wondering what Trump's big, aggressive move against all those neo-Nazi groups across America who fly Trump flags amongst their swastikas and confederate flags is going to be, now that he is looking to end anti-semitism in America.
    I was just about to post the exact same thing. lol
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  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 12,139
    No, it’s quite believable that this administration, whose shadow president was throwing up seig heils two months ago. is going after 1A rights and student protesters in the interest of combating anti-semitism. That definitely tracks w/ the people running the country right now. 
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 40,575
    mickeyrat said:
    What does Columbia University “protecting Jews” look like? Because the COOTWH Administration said it, it must be true, eh?
    Game, set and match, even nbc can’t bail out that assertion 

    “… if the State Department has “reasonable ground to believe that a noncitizen’s presence or activities in the country would have serious adverse foreign policy consequences, then that person is deportable, and so even a green card holder can be deportable on those grounds.”
    Thanks for expressing your agreement with a fascist state. Good thing you’re around protecting democracy. Why am I not surprised? Because you, and many others may not read it, from A Letter From An American:

    As the administration’s economic policies are rocking the economy, the administration’s arrest and detention of Mahmoud Khalil, a 30-year-old Syrian-born Palestinian activist who figured prominently in the Gaza Solidarity Encampment at Columbia University last April, seems designed to rock society. According to Democracy Now, Khalil is an Algerian citizen, but he holds a U.S. green card and is married to a U.S. citizen who is 8 months pregnant. 

    Shortly after he took office, Trump issued an executive order saying he would revoke the student visas of anyone he claimed sympathized with Hamas. On Saturday, agents from U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) arrested Khalil. Khalil’s lawyer said that ICE agents claimed they were acting on the orders of the State Department to revoke Khalil’s student visa, apparently unaware that Khalil, who graduated from Columbia’s School of International and Public Affairs in December 2024, is a lawful permanent resident of the United States. When his wife showed officers documents proving that status, the lawyer said, an officer said they were revoking his green card instead. He is apparently being held in Louisiana. 

    The revocation of a green card is very rare. The Associated Press noted that the Department of Homeland Security can begin the process of deportation for lawful permanent residents who are connected to alleged criminal activity. But Khalil hasn’t been charged with a crime. Nik Popli of Time magazine notes that a green card holder can be deported for supporting terrorist groups, but in that case the government must have material evidence. A Homeland Security spokesperson did not offer any such evidence, saying simply that Khalil’s arrest was “in support of President Trump’s executive orders prohibiting anti-Semitism” and that Khalil “led activities aligned to Hamas, a designated terrorist organization.” 

    That is, the Trump administration has arrested and detained a legal resident for expressing an opinion that Trump officials don’t like, likely using Khalil to launch this extraordinary attack on the First Amendment because they don’t expect Americans to care deeply about his fate. Once the principle is established that the government can arrest and jail protesters, though, officials will use it to silence opposition broadly. “This is the first arrest of many to come,” Trump posted just after noon. “We know there are more students at Columbia who have engaged in pro-terrorist, anti-Semitic, anti-American activity, and the Trump Administration will not tolerate it.”

    Representative Greg Casar (D-TX) posted: “This is illegal, and it endangers the rights of all Americans. In this country, people must be free to express their views—left or right, popular or unpopular—without being detained or punished by the government.” On this basic principle, Americans across the political spectrum appear to agree. Right-wing pundit Ann Coulter was one of those who stepped back from the idea of arrests and deportations of those expressing opinions. “There’s almost no one I don’t want to deport,” she posted, “but, unless they’ve committed a crime, isn’t this a violation of the first amendment?” 

    Today, U.S. District Judge Jesse M. Furman ordered that Khalil “shall not be removed from the United States unless and until the Court orders otherwise,” and ordered a hearing on Wednesday.

    Get your jackboots polished, there’s some libraries and bookstores to storm.


    It might be rare, but those are the rules. It’s rare because most who emigrate here do not support and organize rallies for enemies of the USA. 

    He came here for a better life, and thanked this country by supporting a terrorist organization. And after you sift thru the liberal media and those long posts, you’ll find out deportation is perfectly legal in this case. So we should now break the law or rules to support terrorism? 

    Do you equate all Palestinians with Hamas?

    yes or no.

    previous statements leave a strong impression.


    Whataboutisms will not solve this crisis and provide peace. Only good faith negotiations will, and both sides need to work on that. Every Palestinian needs to support and speak publicly for a govt that fully supports that goal. You fully know that’s not true, a d makes your question a whataboutism.

    This dude thanked the US by supporting Hamas and Hezbollah. The govt claims antisemitic behavior. It’s a good lesson for this country to see whether they are correct. Due process.


    I suppose you fear free speech as well? Particularly that with which you disagree with? The truth is a difficult thing to accept, I know.

    Criticizing Israel is anti-Semitic, we get it.

    What does “every” Israeli or Jew have to do in this relationship?


    If you always need to put words in others mouths, do you seriously believe your views survive scrutiny?

    I said in this case due process and the judges decision are good things. Let’s find out where to draw the line between speech and hate speech, at a university receiving public funding and logistical support

    And the rules I posted earlier seem to clearly support the State Dept assertion that this non citizen is deportable.
    How fucking ironic. From The Atlantic:

    The Anti-Defamation League, a pale shadow of its former self, enthusiastically endorsed Khalil’s detainment absent due process, saying it “appreciated” the Trump administration’s “bold set of efforts to counter campus anti-semitism” by “holding alleged perpetrators responsible for their actions.” Although the statement includes the caveat that “any deportation action or revocation of a Green Card or visa must be undertaken in alignment with required due process protections,” praising the Trump administration for arresting Khalil absent any such process makes clear that the question of Khalil’s guilt is an afterthought. One source of legal authority that the administration appears to be citing is the 1952 McCarran-Walter Act, whose co-sponsor Senator Patrick McCarran believed that Jews were “subversive rats that need to be kept out” of the country. If there is one obvious lesson of Jewish history, it is that when governments persecute people based on their political views and ethnic background, it is unlikely to end well for Jews. The ADL learned different lessons from that history, I suppose.

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    Happening right before our eyes all the while being cheered, encouraged and met with a shrug of the shoulders by some. The Atlantic piece closes by the following. You’re being warned:

    This is what is important: It does not matter if you approve of Khalil’s views. It does not matter if you support the Israelis or the Palestinians. It does not matter if you are a liberal or a conservative. It does not even matter if you voted for Trump or Kamala Harris. If the state can deprive an individual of his freedom just because of his politics, which is what appears to have happened here, then no one is safe. You may believe that Khalil does not deserve free speech or due process. But if he does not have them, then neither do you. Neither do I.



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    Happening right before our eyes all the while being cheered, encouraged and met with a shrug of the shoulders by some. The Atlantic piece closes by the following. You’re being warned:

    This is what is important: It does not matter if you approve of Khalil’s views. It does not matter if you support the Israelis or the Palestinians. It does not matter if you are a liberal or a conservative. It does not even matter if you voted for Trump or Kamala Harris. If the state can deprive an individual of his freedom just because of his politics, which is what appears to have happened here, then no one is safe. You may believe that Khalil does not deserve free speech or due process. But if he does not have them, then neither do you. Neither do I.



    It’s incredible how some are ok with this, just because of “go team”. Politics have devolved into a football game. 
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 40,575
    Happening right before our eyes all the while being cheered, encouraged and met with a shrug of the shoulders by some. The Atlantic piece closes by the following. You’re being warned:

    This is what is important: It does not matter if you approve of Khalil’s views. It does not matter if you support the Israelis or the Palestinians. It does not matter if you are a liberal or a conservative. It does not even matter if you voted for Trump or Kamala Harris. If the state can deprive an individual of his freedom just because of his politics, which is what appears to have happened here, then no one is safe. You may believe that Khalil does not deserve free speech or due process. But if he does not have them, then neither do you. Neither do I.



    It’s incredible how some are ok with this, just because of “go team”. Politics have devolved into a football game. 
    Never once did I think the protesters who protested military funerals by shouting out against gay marriage and the LGBT+ community at church and cemetery services be detained. Never thought the same of folks who burned flags. Or spoke up for/against “insert issue here”, regardless of their citizenship or residency status. Not fucking once.

    And yet, here we are because COOTWH, primarily, and Bibi. Birds of a feather. And nary a peep but those poor Tesla owners.

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    What does Columbia University “protecting Jews” look like? Because the COOTWH Administration said it, it must be true, eh?
    Game, set and match, even nbc can’t bail out that assertion 

    “… if the State Department has “reasonable ground to believe that a noncitizen’s presence or activities in the country would have serious adverse foreign policy consequences, then that person is deportable, and so even a green card holder can be deportable on those grounds.”
    Thanks for expressing your agreement with a fascist state. Good thing you’re around protecting democracy. Why am I not surprised? Because you, and many others may not read it, from A Letter From An American:

    As the administration’s economic policies are rocking the economy, the administration’s arrest and detention of Mahmoud Khalil, a 30-year-old Syrian-born Palestinian activist who figured prominently in the Gaza Solidarity Encampment at Columbia University last April, seems designed to rock society. According to Democracy Now, Khalil is an Algerian citizen, but he holds a U.S. green card and is married to a U.S. citizen who is 8 months pregnant. 

    Shortly after he took office, Trump issued an executive order saying he would revoke the student visas of anyone he claimed sympathized with Hamas. On Saturday, agents from U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) arrested Khalil. Khalil’s lawyer said that ICE agents claimed they were acting on the orders of the State Department to revoke Khalil’s student visa, apparently unaware that Khalil, who graduated from Columbia’s School of International and Public Affairs in December 2024, is a lawful permanent resident of the United States. When his wife showed officers documents proving that status, the lawyer said, an officer said they were revoking his green card instead. He is apparently being held in Louisiana. 

    The revocation of a green card is very rare. The Associated Press noted that the Department of Homeland Security can begin the process of deportation for lawful permanent residents who are connected to alleged criminal activity. But Khalil hasn’t been charged with a crime. Nik Popli of Time magazine notes that a green card holder can be deported for supporting terrorist groups, but in that case the government must have material evidence. A Homeland Security spokesperson did not offer any such evidence, saying simply that Khalil’s arrest was “in support of President Trump’s executive orders prohibiting anti-Semitism” and that Khalil “led activities aligned to Hamas, a designated terrorist organization.” 

    That is, the Trump administration has arrested and detained a legal resident for expressing an opinion that Trump officials don’t like, likely using Khalil to launch this extraordinary attack on the First Amendment because they don’t expect Americans to care deeply about his fate. Once the principle is established that the government can arrest and jail protesters, though, officials will use it to silence opposition broadly. “This is the first arrest of many to come,” Trump posted just after noon. “We know there are more students at Columbia who have engaged in pro-terrorist, anti-Semitic, anti-American activity, and the Trump Administration will not tolerate it.”

    Representative Greg Casar (D-TX) posted: “This is illegal, and it endangers the rights of all Americans. In this country, people must be free to express their views—left or right, popular or unpopular—without being detained or punished by the government.” On this basic principle, Americans across the political spectrum appear to agree. Right-wing pundit Ann Coulter was one of those who stepped back from the idea of arrests and deportations of those expressing opinions. “There’s almost no one I don’t want to deport,” she posted, “but, unless they’ve committed a crime, isn’t this a violation of the first amendment?” 

    Today, U.S. District Judge Jesse M. Furman ordered that Khalil “shall not be removed from the United States unless and until the Court orders otherwise,” and ordered a hearing on Wednesday.

    Get your jackboots polished, there’s some libraries and bookstores to storm.


    It might be rare, but those are the rules. It’s rare because most who emigrate here do not support and organize rallies for enemies of the USA. 

    He came here for a better life, and thanked this country by supporting a terrorist organization. And after you sift thru the liberal media and those long posts, you’ll find out deportation is perfectly legal in this case. So we should now break the law or rules to support terrorism? 

    Edit, and I can also support the judges ruling, better he receive due process. We know where that path ends up.
    And we know Trump’s motive is to attack the educational system and suppress freedom
    of expression on campuses, and not fight anti-semitism. 


    We spent $400 million of our money for an institution allegedly supporting anti American protests. Where else does this nonsense happen?
    I don’t know what was anti-American about it. Exercising free speech via assembly is pro-American as far as I’m concerned. Where does any western country with higher levels of freedom try to punish schools because the students did something the government disapprove of? 

    Why the heck are taxpayers subsidizing a school with BILLIONS in its endowment?


     So it wasn’t your classes canceled or classrooms destroyed? Taking over a university, preventing students from receiving their extremely expensive education, while rallying hate against America and its policies. If he were a citizen sure. But here on a green card? The law and immigration rules are not so clear.

    All from someone who is not a citizen. Let him get his day in court. Let him express his hatred of a group of Americans in front of a judge.
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    Happening right before our eyes all the while being cheered, encouraged and met with a shrug of the shoulders by some. The Atlantic piece closes by the following. You’re being warned:

    This is what is important: It does not matter if you approve of Khalil’s views. It does not matter if you support the Israelis or the Palestinians. It does not matter if you are a liberal or a conservative. It does not even matter if you voted for Trump or Kamala Harris. If the state can deprive an individual of his freedom just because of his politics, which is what appears to have happened here, then no one is safe. You may believe that Khalil does not deserve free speech or due process. But if he does not have them, then neither do you. Neither do I.



    It’s incredible how some are ok with this, just because of “go team”. Politics have devolved into a football game. 
    Never once did I think the protesters who protested military funerals by shouting out against gay marriage and the LGBT+ community at church and cemetery services be detained. Never thought the same of folks who burned flags. Or spoke up for/against “insert issue here”, regardless of their citizenship or residency status. Not fucking once.

    And yet, here we are because COOTWH, primarily, and Bibi. Birds of a feather. And nary a peep but those poor Tesla owners.

    Canada, please turn out the lights.
    Elbows up.
  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,366
    mickeyrat said:
    What does Columbia University “protecting Jews” look like? Because the COOTWH Administration said it, it must be true, eh?
    Game, set and match, even nbc can’t bail out that assertion 

    “… if the State Department has “reasonable ground to believe that a noncitizen’s presence or activities in the country would have serious adverse foreign policy consequences, then that person is deportable, and so even a green card holder can be deportable on those grounds.”
    Thanks for expressing your agreement with a fascist state. Good thing you’re around protecting democracy. Why am I not surprised? Because you, and many others may not read it, from A Letter From An American:

    As the administration’s economic policies are rocking the economy, the administration’s arrest and detention of Mahmoud Khalil, a 30-year-old Syrian-born Palestinian activist who figured prominently in the Gaza Solidarity Encampment at Columbia University last April, seems designed to rock society. According to Democracy Now, Khalil is an Algerian citizen, but he holds a U.S. green card and is married to a U.S. citizen who is 8 months pregnant. 

    Shortly after he took office, Trump issued an executive order saying he would revoke the student visas of anyone he claimed sympathized with Hamas. On Saturday, agents from U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) arrested Khalil. Khalil’s lawyer said that ICE agents claimed they were acting on the orders of the State Department to revoke Khalil’s student visa, apparently unaware that Khalil, who graduated from Columbia’s School of International and Public Affairs in December 2024, is a lawful permanent resident of the United States. When his wife showed officers documents proving that status, the lawyer said, an officer said they were revoking his green card instead. He is apparently being held in Louisiana. 

    The revocation of a green card is very rare. The Associated Press noted that the Department of Homeland Security can begin the process of deportation for lawful permanent residents who are connected to alleged criminal activity. But Khalil hasn’t been charged with a crime. Nik Popli of Time magazine notes that a green card holder can be deported for supporting terrorist groups, but in that case the government must have material evidence. A Homeland Security spokesperson did not offer any such evidence, saying simply that Khalil’s arrest was “in support of President Trump’s executive orders prohibiting anti-Semitism” and that Khalil “led activities aligned to Hamas, a designated terrorist organization.” 

    That is, the Trump administration has arrested and detained a legal resident for expressing an opinion that Trump officials don’t like, likely using Khalil to launch this extraordinary attack on the First Amendment because they don’t expect Americans to care deeply about his fate. Once the principle is established that the government can arrest and jail protesters, though, officials will use it to silence opposition broadly. “This is the first arrest of many to come,” Trump posted just after noon. “We know there are more students at Columbia who have engaged in pro-terrorist, anti-Semitic, anti-American activity, and the Trump Administration will not tolerate it.”

    Representative Greg Casar (D-TX) posted: “This is illegal, and it endangers the rights of all Americans. In this country, people must be free to express their views—left or right, popular or unpopular—without being detained or punished by the government.” On this basic principle, Americans across the political spectrum appear to agree. Right-wing pundit Ann Coulter was one of those who stepped back from the idea of arrests and deportations of those expressing opinions. “There’s almost no one I don’t want to deport,” she posted, “but, unless they’ve committed a crime, isn’t this a violation of the first amendment?” 

    Today, U.S. District Judge Jesse M. Furman ordered that Khalil “shall not be removed from the United States unless and until the Court orders otherwise,” and ordered a hearing on Wednesday.

    Get your jackboots polished, there’s some libraries and bookstores to storm.


    It might be rare, but those are the rules. It’s rare because most who emigrate here do not support and organize rallies for enemies of the USA. 

    He came here for a better life, and thanked this country by supporting a terrorist organization. And after you sift thru the liberal media and those long posts, you’ll find out deportation is perfectly legal in this case. So we should now break the law or rules to support terrorism? 

    Do you equate all Palestinians with Hamas?

    yes or no.

    previous statements leave a strong impression.


    Whataboutisms will not solve this crisis and provide peace. Only good faith negotiations will, and both sides need to work on that. Every Palestinian needs to support and speak publicly for a govt that fully supports that goal. You fully know that’s not true, a d makes your question a whataboutism.

    This dude thanked the US by supporting Hamas and Hezbollah. The govt claims antisemitic behavior. It’s a good lesson for this country to see whether they are correct. Due process.


    I suppose you fear free speech as well? Particularly that with which you disagree with? The truth is a difficult thing to accept, I know.

    Criticizing Israel is anti-Semitic, we get it.

    What does “every” Israeli or Jew have to do in this relationship?


    If you always need to put words in others mouths, do you seriously believe your views survive scrutiny?

    I said in this case due process and the judges decision are good things. Let’s find out where to draw the line between speech and hate speech, at a university receiving public funding and logistical support

    And the rules I posted earlier seem to clearly support the State Dept assertion that this non citizen is deportable.
    How fucking ironic. From The Atlantic:

    The Anti-Defamation League, a pale shadow of its former self, enthusiastically endorsed Khalil’s detainment absent due process, saying it “appreciated” the Trump administration’s “bold set of efforts to counter campus anti-semitism” by “holding alleged perpetrators responsible for their actions.” Although the statement includes the caveat that “any deportation action or revocation of a Green Card or visa must be undertaken in alignment with required due process protections,” praising the Trump administration for arresting Khalil absent any such process makes clear that the question of Khalil’s guilt is an afterthought. One source of legal authority that the administration appears to be citing is the 1952 McCarran-Walter Act, whose co-sponsor Senator Patrick McCarran believed that Jews were “subversive rats that need to be kept out” of the country. If there is one obvious lesson of Jewish history, it is that when governments persecute people based on their political views and ethnic background, it is unlikely to end well for Jews. The ADL learned different lessons from that history, I suppose.

    https://apple.news/A7Je0vMy_SFusSCw2MPOQ0w

    True about a shadow of its former self. From 2021:

    The chief executive of the Anti-Defamation League led condemnation of Donald Trump after the former president used antisemitic tropes in remarks about American Jews and Israel.

    “Insinuating that Israel or the Jews control Congress or the media is antisemitic, plain and simple,” Jonathan Greenblatt said. “Unfortunately, this is not the first time he has made these offensive remarks.”
  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,366
    What does Columbia University “protecting Jews” look like? Because the COOTWH Administration said it, it must be true, eh?
    Game, set and match, even nbc can’t bail out that assertion 

    “… if the State Department has “reasonable ground to believe that a noncitizen’s presence or activities in the country would have serious adverse foreign policy consequences, then that person is deportable, and so even a green card holder can be deportable on those grounds.”
    Thanks for expressing your agreement with a fascist state. Good thing you’re around protecting democracy. Why am I not surprised? Because you, and many others may not read it, from A Letter From An American:

    As the administration’s economic policies are rocking the economy, the administration’s arrest and detention of Mahmoud Khalil, a 30-year-old Syrian-born Palestinian activist who figured prominently in the Gaza Solidarity Encampment at Columbia University last April, seems designed to rock society. According to Democracy Now, Khalil is an Algerian citizen, but he holds a U.S. green card and is married to a U.S. citizen who is 8 months pregnant. 

    Shortly after he took office, Trump issued an executive order saying he would revoke the student visas of anyone he claimed sympathized with Hamas. On Saturday, agents from U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) arrested Khalil. Khalil’s lawyer said that ICE agents claimed they were acting on the orders of the State Department to revoke Khalil’s student visa, apparently unaware that Khalil, who graduated from Columbia’s School of International and Public Affairs in December 2024, is a lawful permanent resident of the United States. When his wife showed officers documents proving that status, the lawyer said, an officer said they were revoking his green card instead. He is apparently being held in Louisiana. 

    The revocation of a green card is very rare. The Associated Press noted that the Department of Homeland Security can begin the process of deportation for lawful permanent residents who are connected to alleged criminal activity. But Khalil hasn’t been charged with a crime. Nik Popli of Time magazine notes that a green card holder can be deported for supporting terrorist groups, but in that case the government must have material evidence. A Homeland Security spokesperson did not offer any such evidence, saying simply that Khalil’s arrest was “in support of President Trump’s executive orders prohibiting anti-Semitism” and that Khalil “led activities aligned to Hamas, a designated terrorist organization.” 

    That is, the Trump administration has arrested and detained a legal resident for expressing an opinion that Trump officials don’t like, likely using Khalil to launch this extraordinary attack on the First Amendment because they don’t expect Americans to care deeply about his fate. Once the principle is established that the government can arrest and jail protesters, though, officials will use it to silence opposition broadly. “This is the first arrest of many to come,” Trump posted just after noon. “We know there are more students at Columbia who have engaged in pro-terrorist, anti-Semitic, anti-American activity, and the Trump Administration will not tolerate it.”

    Representative Greg Casar (D-TX) posted: “This is illegal, and it endangers the rights of all Americans. In this country, people must be free to express their views—left or right, popular or unpopular—without being detained or punished by the government.” On this basic principle, Americans across the political spectrum appear to agree. Right-wing pundit Ann Coulter was one of those who stepped back from the idea of arrests and deportations of those expressing opinions. “There’s almost no one I don’t want to deport,” she posted, “but, unless they’ve committed a crime, isn’t this a violation of the first amendment?” 

    Today, U.S. District Judge Jesse M. Furman ordered that Khalil “shall not be removed from the United States unless and until the Court orders otherwise,” and ordered a hearing on Wednesday.

    Get your jackboots polished, there’s some libraries and bookstores to storm.


    It might be rare, but those are the rules. It’s rare because most who emigrate here do not support and organize rallies for enemies of the USA. 

    He came here for a better life, and thanked this country by supporting a terrorist organization. And after you sift thru the liberal media and those long posts, you’ll find out deportation is perfectly legal in this case. So we should now break the law or rules to support terrorism? 

    Edit, and I can also support the judges ruling, better he receive due process. We know where that path ends up.
    And we know Trump’s motive is to attack the educational system and suppress freedom
    of expression on campuses, and not fight anti-semitism. 


    We spent $400 million of our money for an institution allegedly supporting anti American protests. Where else does this nonsense happen?
    I don’t know what was anti-American about it. Exercising free speech via assembly is pro-American as far as I’m concerned. Where does any western country with higher levels of freedom try to punish schools because the students did something the government disapprove of? 

    Why the heck are taxpayers subsidizing a school with BILLIONS in its endowment?


     So it wasn’t your classes canceled or classrooms destroyed? Taking over a university, preventing students from receiving their extremely expensive education, while rallying hate against America and its policies. If he were a citizen sure. But here on a green card? The law and immigration rules are not so clear.

    All from someone who is not a citizen. Let him get his day in court. Let him express his hatred of a group of Americans in front of a judge.
    Government give schools grant money for specific research. 
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 40,575
    What does Columbia University “protecting Jews” look like? Because the COOTWH Administration said it, it must be true, eh?
    Game, set and match, even nbc can’t bail out that assertion 

    “… if the State Department has “reasonable ground to believe that a noncitizen’s presence or activities in the country would have serious adverse foreign policy consequences, then that person is deportable, and so even a green card holder can be deportable on those grounds.”
    Thanks for expressing your agreement with a fascist state. Good thing you’re around protecting democracy. Why am I not surprised? Because you, and many others may not read it, from A Letter From An American:

    As the administration’s economic policies are rocking the economy, the administration’s arrest and detention of Mahmoud Khalil, a 30-year-old Syrian-born Palestinian activist who figured prominently in the Gaza Solidarity Encampment at Columbia University last April, seems designed to rock society. According to Democracy Now, Khalil is an Algerian citizen, but he holds a U.S. green card and is married to a U.S. citizen who is 8 months pregnant. 

    Shortly after he took office, Trump issued an executive order saying he would revoke the student visas of anyone he claimed sympathized with Hamas. On Saturday, agents from U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) arrested Khalil. Khalil’s lawyer said that ICE agents claimed they were acting on the orders of the State Department to revoke Khalil’s student visa, apparently unaware that Khalil, who graduated from Columbia’s School of International and Public Affairs in December 2024, is a lawful permanent resident of the United States. When his wife showed officers documents proving that status, the lawyer said, an officer said they were revoking his green card instead. He is apparently being held in Louisiana. 

    The revocation of a green card is very rare. The Associated Press noted that the Department of Homeland Security can begin the process of deportation for lawful permanent residents who are connected to alleged criminal activity. But Khalil hasn’t been charged with a crime. Nik Popli of Time magazine notes that a green card holder can be deported for supporting terrorist groups, but in that case the government must have material evidence. A Homeland Security spokesperson did not offer any such evidence, saying simply that Khalil’s arrest was “in support of President Trump’s executive orders prohibiting anti-Semitism” and that Khalil “led activities aligned to Hamas, a designated terrorist organization.” 

    That is, the Trump administration has arrested and detained a legal resident for expressing an opinion that Trump officials don’t like, likely using Khalil to launch this extraordinary attack on the First Amendment because they don’t expect Americans to care deeply about his fate. Once the principle is established that the government can arrest and jail protesters, though, officials will use it to silence opposition broadly. “This is the first arrest of many to come,” Trump posted just after noon. “We know there are more students at Columbia who have engaged in pro-terrorist, anti-Semitic, anti-American activity, and the Trump Administration will not tolerate it.”

    Representative Greg Casar (D-TX) posted: “This is illegal, and it endangers the rights of all Americans. In this country, people must be free to express their views—left or right, popular or unpopular—without being detained or punished by the government.” On this basic principle, Americans across the political spectrum appear to agree. Right-wing pundit Ann Coulter was one of those who stepped back from the idea of arrests and deportations of those expressing opinions. “There’s almost no one I don’t want to deport,” she posted, “but, unless they’ve committed a crime, isn’t this a violation of the first amendment?” 

    Today, U.S. District Judge Jesse M. Furman ordered that Khalil “shall not be removed from the United States unless and until the Court orders otherwise,” and ordered a hearing on Wednesday.

    Get your jackboots polished, there’s some libraries and bookstores to storm.


    It might be rare, but those are the rules. It’s rare because most who emigrate here do not support and organize rallies for enemies of the USA. 

    He came here for a better life, and thanked this country by supporting a terrorist organization. And after you sift thru the liberal media and those long posts, you’ll find out deportation is perfectly legal in this case. So we should now break the law or rules to support terrorism? 

    Edit, and I can also support the judges ruling, better he receive due process. We know where that path ends up.
    And we know Trump’s motive is to attack the educational system and suppress freedom
    of expression on campuses, and not fight anti-semitism. 


    We spent $400 million of our money for an institution allegedly supporting anti American protests. Where else does this nonsense happen?
    I don’t know what was anti-American about it. Exercising free speech via assembly is pro-American as far as I’m concerned. Where does any western country with higher levels of freedom try to punish schools because the students did something the government disapprove of? 

    Why the heck are taxpayers subsidizing a school with BILLIONS in its endowment?


     So it wasn’t your classes canceled or classrooms destroyed? Taking over a university, preventing students from receiving their extremely expensive education, while rallying hate against America and its policies. If he were a citizen sure. But here on a green card? The law and immigration rules are not so clear.

    All from someone who is not a citizen. Let him get his day in court. Let him express his hatred of a group of Americans in front of a judge.
    Government give schools grant money for specific research. 
    And fund PhD programs and research but yea, we don’t need any of that shit because the billionaire class will invent all the new things and make new great products and discoveries without the lib educators being involved.
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  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,133
    What does Columbia University “protecting Jews” look like? Because the COOTWH Administration said it, it must be true, eh?
    Game, set and match, even nbc can’t bail out that assertion 

    “… if the State Department has “reasonable ground to believe that a noncitizen’s presence or activities in the country would have serious adverse foreign policy consequences, then that person is deportable, and so even a green card holder can be deportable on those grounds.”
    Thanks for expressing your agreement with a fascist state. Good thing you’re around protecting democracy. Why am I not surprised? Because you, and many others may not read it, from A Letter From An American:

    As the administration’s economic policies are rocking the economy, the administration’s arrest and detention of Mahmoud Khalil, a 30-year-old Syrian-born Palestinian activist who figured prominently in the Gaza Solidarity Encampment at Columbia University last April, seems designed to rock society. According to Democracy Now, Khalil is an Algerian citizen, but he holds a U.S. green card and is married to a U.S. citizen who is 8 months pregnant. 

    Shortly after he took office, Trump issued an executive order saying he would revoke the student visas of anyone he claimed sympathized with Hamas. On Saturday, agents from U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) arrested Khalil. Khalil’s lawyer said that ICE agents claimed they were acting on the orders of the State Department to revoke Khalil’s student visa, apparently unaware that Khalil, who graduated from Columbia’s School of International and Public Affairs in December 2024, is a lawful permanent resident of the United States. When his wife showed officers documents proving that status, the lawyer said, an officer said they were revoking his green card instead. He is apparently being held in Louisiana. 

    The revocation of a green card is very rare. The Associated Press noted that the Department of Homeland Security can begin the process of deportation for lawful permanent residents who are connected to alleged criminal activity. But Khalil hasn’t been charged with a crime. Nik Popli of Time magazine notes that a green card holder can be deported for supporting terrorist groups, but in that case the government must have material evidence. A Homeland Security spokesperson did not offer any such evidence, saying simply that Khalil’s arrest was “in support of President Trump’s executive orders prohibiting anti-Semitism” and that Khalil “led activities aligned to Hamas, a designated terrorist organization.” 

    That is, the Trump administration has arrested and detained a legal resident for expressing an opinion that Trump officials don’t like, likely using Khalil to launch this extraordinary attack on the First Amendment because they don’t expect Americans to care deeply about his fate. Once the principle is established that the government can arrest and jail protesters, though, officials will use it to silence opposition broadly. “This is the first arrest of many to come,” Trump posted just after noon. “We know there are more students at Columbia who have engaged in pro-terrorist, anti-Semitic, anti-American activity, and the Trump Administration will not tolerate it.”

    Representative Greg Casar (D-TX) posted: “This is illegal, and it endangers the rights of all Americans. In this country, people must be free to express their views—left or right, popular or unpopular—without being detained or punished by the government.” On this basic principle, Americans across the political spectrum appear to agree. Right-wing pundit Ann Coulter was one of those who stepped back from the idea of arrests and deportations of those expressing opinions. “There’s almost no one I don’t want to deport,” she posted, “but, unless they’ve committed a crime, isn’t this a violation of the first amendment?” 

    Today, U.S. District Judge Jesse M. Furman ordered that Khalil “shall not be removed from the United States unless and until the Court orders otherwise,” and ordered a hearing on Wednesday.

    Get your jackboots polished, there’s some libraries and bookstores to storm.


    It might be rare, but those are the rules. It’s rare because most who emigrate here do not support and organize rallies for enemies of the USA. 

    He came here for a better life, and thanked this country by supporting a terrorist organization. And after you sift thru the liberal media and those long posts, you’ll find out deportation is perfectly legal in this case. So we should now break the law or rules to support terrorism? 

    Edit, and I can also support the judges ruling, better he receive due process. We know where that path ends up.
    And we know Trump’s motive is to attack the educational system and suppress freedom
    of expression on campuses, and not fight anti-semitism. 


    We spent $400 million of our money for an institution allegedly supporting anti American protests. Where else does this nonsense happen?
    I don’t know what was anti-American about it. Exercising free speech via assembly is pro-American as far as I’m concerned. Where does any western country with higher levels of freedom try to punish schools because the students did something the government disapprove of? 

    Why the heck are taxpayers subsidizing a school with BILLIONS in its endowment?


     So it wasn’t your classes canceled or classrooms destroyed? Taking over a university, preventing students from receiving their extremely expensive education, while rallying hate against America and its policies. If he were a citizen sure. But here on a green card? The law and immigration rules are not so clear.

    All from someone who is not a citizen. Let him get his day in court. Let him express his hatred of a group of Americans in front of a judge.
    Government give schools grant money for specific research. 
    And fund PhD programs and research but yea, we don’t need any of that shit because the billionaire class will invent all the new things and make new great products and discoveries without the lib educators being involved.

    Columbia has a $15 billion endowment and charges students nearly half a million dollars for a degree. If they are going to allow students to be bullied and intimidated  by Hamas supporting non citizens, they clearly have no need for taxpayer money.
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 42,715
    What does Columbia University “protecting Jews” look like? Because the COOTWH Administration said it, it must be true, eh?
    Game, set and match, even nbc can’t bail out that assertion 

    “… if the State Department has “reasonable ground to believe that a noncitizen’s presence or activities in the country would have serious adverse foreign policy consequences, then that person is deportable, and so even a green card holder can be deportable on those grounds.”
    Thanks for expressing your agreement with a fascist state. Good thing you’re around protecting democracy. Why am I not surprised? Because you, and many others may not read it, from A Letter From An American:

    As the administration’s economic policies are rocking the economy, the administration’s arrest and detention of Mahmoud Khalil, a 30-year-old Syrian-born Palestinian activist who figured prominently in the Gaza Solidarity Encampment at Columbia University last April, seems designed to rock society. According to Democracy Now, Khalil is an Algerian citizen, but he holds a U.S. green card and is married to a U.S. citizen who is 8 months pregnant. 

    Shortly after he took office, Trump issued an executive order saying he would revoke the student visas of anyone he claimed sympathized with Hamas. On Saturday, agents from U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) arrested Khalil. Khalil’s lawyer said that ICE agents claimed they were acting on the orders of the State Department to revoke Khalil’s student visa, apparently unaware that Khalil, who graduated from Columbia’s School of International and Public Affairs in December 2024, is a lawful permanent resident of the United States. When his wife showed officers documents proving that status, the lawyer said, an officer said they were revoking his green card instead. He is apparently being held in Louisiana. 

    The revocation of a green card is very rare. The Associated Press noted that the Department of Homeland Security can begin the process of deportation for lawful permanent residents who are connected to alleged criminal activity. But Khalil hasn’t been charged with a crime. Nik Popli of Time magazine notes that a green card holder can be deported for supporting terrorist groups, but in that case the government must have material evidence. A Homeland Security spokesperson did not offer any such evidence, saying simply that Khalil’s arrest was “in support of President Trump’s executive orders prohibiting anti-Semitism” and that Khalil “led activities aligned to Hamas, a designated terrorist organization.” 

    That is, the Trump administration has arrested and detained a legal resident for expressing an opinion that Trump officials don’t like, likely using Khalil to launch this extraordinary attack on the First Amendment because they don’t expect Americans to care deeply about his fate. Once the principle is established that the government can arrest and jail protesters, though, officials will use it to silence opposition broadly. “This is the first arrest of many to come,” Trump posted just after noon. “We know there are more students at Columbia who have engaged in pro-terrorist, anti-Semitic, anti-American activity, and the Trump Administration will not tolerate it.”

    Representative Greg Casar (D-TX) posted: “This is illegal, and it endangers the rights of all Americans. In this country, people must be free to express their views—left or right, popular or unpopular—without being detained or punished by the government.” On this basic principle, Americans across the political spectrum appear to agree. Right-wing pundit Ann Coulter was one of those who stepped back from the idea of arrests and deportations of those expressing opinions. “There’s almost no one I don’t want to deport,” she posted, “but, unless they’ve committed a crime, isn’t this a violation of the first amendment?” 

    Today, U.S. District Judge Jesse M. Furman ordered that Khalil “shall not be removed from the United States unless and until the Court orders otherwise,” and ordered a hearing on Wednesday.

    Get your jackboots polished, there’s some libraries and bookstores to storm.


    It might be rare, but those are the rules. It’s rare because most who emigrate here do not support and organize rallies for enemies of the USA. 

    He came here for a better life, and thanked this country by supporting a terrorist organization. And after you sift thru the liberal media and those long posts, you’ll find out deportation is perfectly legal in this case. So we should now break the law or rules to support terrorism? 

    Edit, and I can also support the judges ruling, better he receive due process. We know where that path ends up.
    And we know Trump’s motive is to attack the educational system and suppress freedom
    of expression on campuses, and not fight anti-semitism. 


    We spent $400 million of our money for an institution allegedly supporting anti American protests. Where else does this nonsense happen?
    I don’t know what was anti-American about it. Exercising free speech via assembly is pro-American as far as I’m concerned. Where does any western country with higher levels of freedom try to punish schools because the students did something the government disapprove of? 

    Why the heck are taxpayers subsidizing a school with BILLIONS in its endowment?


     So it wasn’t your classes canceled or classrooms destroyed? Taking over a university, preventing students from receiving their extremely expensive education, while rallying hate against America and its policies. If he were a citizen sure. But here on a green card? The law and immigration rules are not so clear.

    All from someone who is not a citizen. Let him get his day in court. Let him express his hatred of a group of Americans in front of a judge.
    Government give schools grant money for specific research. 
    And fund PhD programs and research but yea, we don’t need any of that shit because the billionaire class will invent all the new things and make new great products and discoveries without the lib educators being involved.

    Columbia has a $15 billion endowment and charges students nearly half a million dollars for a degree. If they are going to allow students to be bullied and intimidated  by Hamas supporting non citizens, they clearly have no need for taxpayer money.

    Do you equate all Palestinians with Hamas?

    yes or no.

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    great picture within..

    Texas megachurch pastor & former Trump spiritual advisor, Robert Morris, has been indicted for the rape of a 12 year old girl.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 40,575
    What does Columbia University “protecting Jews” look like? Because the COOTWH Administration said it, it must be true, eh?
    Game, set and match, even nbc can’t bail out that assertion 

    “… if the State Department has “reasonable ground to believe that a noncitizen’s presence or activities in the country would have serious adverse foreign policy consequences, then that person is deportable, and so even a green card holder can be deportable on those grounds.”
    Thanks for expressing your agreement with a fascist state. Good thing you’re around protecting democracy. Why am I not surprised? Because you, and many others may not read it, from A Letter From An American:

    As the administration’s economic policies are rocking the economy, the administration’s arrest and detention of Mahmoud Khalil, a 30-year-old Syrian-born Palestinian activist who figured prominently in the Gaza Solidarity Encampment at Columbia University last April, seems designed to rock society. According to Democracy Now, Khalil is an Algerian citizen, but he holds a U.S. green card and is married to a U.S. citizen who is 8 months pregnant. 

    Shortly after he took office, Trump issued an executive order saying he would revoke the student visas of anyone he claimed sympathized with Hamas. On Saturday, agents from U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) arrested Khalil. Khalil’s lawyer said that ICE agents claimed they were acting on the orders of the State Department to revoke Khalil’s student visa, apparently unaware that Khalil, who graduated from Columbia’s School of International and Public Affairs in December 2024, is a lawful permanent resident of the United States. When his wife showed officers documents proving that status, the lawyer said, an officer said they were revoking his green card instead. He is apparently being held in Louisiana. 

    The revocation of a green card is very rare. The Associated Press noted that the Department of Homeland Security can begin the process of deportation for lawful permanent residents who are connected to alleged criminal activity. But Khalil hasn’t been charged with a crime. Nik Popli of Time magazine notes that a green card holder can be deported for supporting terrorist groups, but in that case the government must have material evidence. A Homeland Security spokesperson did not offer any such evidence, saying simply that Khalil’s arrest was “in support of President Trump’s executive orders prohibiting anti-Semitism” and that Khalil “led activities aligned to Hamas, a designated terrorist organization.” 

    That is, the Trump administration has arrested and detained a legal resident for expressing an opinion that Trump officials don’t like, likely using Khalil to launch this extraordinary attack on the First Amendment because they don’t expect Americans to care deeply about his fate. Once the principle is established that the government can arrest and jail protesters, though, officials will use it to silence opposition broadly. “This is the first arrest of many to come,” Trump posted just after noon. “We know there are more students at Columbia who have engaged in pro-terrorist, anti-Semitic, anti-American activity, and the Trump Administration will not tolerate it.”

    Representative Greg Casar (D-TX) posted: “This is illegal, and it endangers the rights of all Americans. In this country, people must be free to express their views—left or right, popular or unpopular—without being detained or punished by the government.” On this basic principle, Americans across the political spectrum appear to agree. Right-wing pundit Ann Coulter was one of those who stepped back from the idea of arrests and deportations of those expressing opinions. “There’s almost no one I don’t want to deport,” she posted, “but, unless they’ve committed a crime, isn’t this a violation of the first amendment?” 

    Today, U.S. District Judge Jesse M. Furman ordered that Khalil “shall not be removed from the United States unless and until the Court orders otherwise,” and ordered a hearing on Wednesday.

    Get your jackboots polished, there’s some libraries and bookstores to storm.


    It might be rare, but those are the rules. It’s rare because most who emigrate here do not support and organize rallies for enemies of the USA. 

    He came here for a better life, and thanked this country by supporting a terrorist organization. And after you sift thru the liberal media and those long posts, you’ll find out deportation is perfectly legal in this case. So we should now break the law or rules to support terrorism? 

    Edit, and I can also support the judges ruling, better he receive due process. We know where that path ends up.
    And we know Trump’s motive is to attack the educational system and suppress freedom
    of expression on campuses, and not fight anti-semitism. 


    We spent $400 million of our money for an institution allegedly supporting anti American protests. Where else does this nonsense happen?
    I don’t know what was anti-American about it. Exercising free speech via assembly is pro-American as far as I’m concerned. Where does any western country with higher levels of freedom try to punish schools because the students did something the government disapprove of? 

    Why the heck are taxpayers subsidizing a school with BILLIONS in its endowment?


     So it wasn’t your classes canceled or classrooms destroyed? Taking over a university, preventing students from receiving their extremely expensive education, while rallying hate against America and its policies. If he were a citizen sure. But here on a green card? The law and immigration rules are not so clear.

    All from someone who is not a citizen. Let him get his day in court. Let him express his hatred of a group of Americans in front of a judge.
    Government give schools grant money for specific research. 
    And fund PhD programs and research but yea, we don’t need any of that shit because the billionaire class will invent all the new things and make new great products and discoveries without the lib educators being involved.

    Columbia has a $15 billion endowment and charges students nearly half a million dollars for a degree. If they are going to allow students to be bullied and intimidated  by Hamas supporting non citizens, they clearly have no need for taxpayer money.
    Why does Israel need $4 billion plus of US taxpayer money per year? They’ve been around now for 70+ years. Time to pull the big boy pants on and support themselves, eh?

    You need to read Columbia’s annual report and come back with an update.

    Bullied and intimidated, because they know the truth hurts. What does Columbia University “protecting Jewish students” look like? Safe ride vans with stars of David? Armed Mossad escorts? Everyone tapes their mouth upon entering campus? Please express what that is.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 40,575
    mickeyrat said:
    great picture within..

    Texas megachurch pastor & former Trump spiritual advisor, Robert Morris, has been indicted for the rape of a 12 year old girl.
    How long before a pardon? Christmas time?
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    Would you look at all them Hamas! Better arrest them quick because some students might be hurt and intimidated!

    https://www.cnn.com/2025/03/13/us/protests-legal-illegal-constitution-trump/index.html
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  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,366
    What does Columbia University “protecting Jews” look like? Because the COOTWH Administration said it, it must be true, eh?
    Game, set and match, even nbc can’t bail out that assertion 

    “… if the State Department has “reasonable ground to believe that a noncitizen’s presence or activities in the country would have serious adverse foreign policy consequences, then that person is deportable, and so even a green card holder can be deportable on those grounds.”
    Thanks for expressing your agreement with a fascist state. Good thing you’re around protecting democracy. Why am I not surprised? Because you, and many others may not read it, from A Letter From An American:

    As the administration’s economic policies are rocking the economy, the administration’s arrest and detention of Mahmoud Khalil, a 30-year-old Syrian-born Palestinian activist who figured prominently in the Gaza Solidarity Encampment at Columbia University last April, seems designed to rock society. According to Democracy Now, Khalil is an Algerian citizen, but he holds a U.S. green card and is married to a U.S. citizen who is 8 months pregnant. 

    Shortly after he took office, Trump issued an executive order saying he would revoke the student visas of anyone he claimed sympathized with Hamas. On Saturday, agents from U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) arrested Khalil. Khalil’s lawyer said that ICE agents claimed they were acting on the orders of the State Department to revoke Khalil’s student visa, apparently unaware that Khalil, who graduated from Columbia’s School of International and Public Affairs in December 2024, is a lawful permanent resident of the United States. When his wife showed officers documents proving that status, the lawyer said, an officer said they were revoking his green card instead. He is apparently being held in Louisiana. 

    The revocation of a green card is very rare. The Associated Press noted that the Department of Homeland Security can begin the process of deportation for lawful permanent residents who are connected to alleged criminal activity. But Khalil hasn’t been charged with a crime. Nik Popli of Time magazine notes that a green card holder can be deported for supporting terrorist groups, but in that case the government must have material evidence. A Homeland Security spokesperson did not offer any such evidence, saying simply that Khalil’s arrest was “in support of President Trump’s executive orders prohibiting anti-Semitism” and that Khalil “led activities aligned to Hamas, a designated terrorist organization.” 

    That is, the Trump administration has arrested and detained a legal resident for expressing an opinion that Trump officials don’t like, likely using Khalil to launch this extraordinary attack on the First Amendment because they don’t expect Americans to care deeply about his fate. Once the principle is established that the government can arrest and jail protesters, though, officials will use it to silence opposition broadly. “This is the first arrest of many to come,” Trump posted just after noon. “We know there are more students at Columbia who have engaged in pro-terrorist, anti-Semitic, anti-American activity, and the Trump Administration will not tolerate it.”

    Representative Greg Casar (D-TX) posted: “This is illegal, and it endangers the rights of all Americans. In this country, people must be free to express their views—left or right, popular or unpopular—without being detained or punished by the government.” On this basic principle, Americans across the political spectrum appear to agree. Right-wing pundit Ann Coulter was one of those who stepped back from the idea of arrests and deportations of those expressing opinions. “There’s almost no one I don’t want to deport,” she posted, “but, unless they’ve committed a crime, isn’t this a violation of the first amendment?” 

    Today, U.S. District Judge Jesse M. Furman ordered that Khalil “shall not be removed from the United States unless and until the Court orders otherwise,” and ordered a hearing on Wednesday.

    Get your jackboots polished, there’s some libraries and bookstores to storm.


    It might be rare, but those are the rules. It’s rare because most who emigrate here do not support and organize rallies for enemies of the USA. 

    He came here for a better life, and thanked this country by supporting a terrorist organization. And after you sift thru the liberal media and those long posts, you’ll find out deportation is perfectly legal in this case. So we should now break the law or rules to support terrorism? 

    Edit, and I can also support the judges ruling, better he receive due process. We know where that path ends up.
    And we know Trump’s motive is to attack the educational system and suppress freedom
    of expression on campuses, and not fight anti-semitism. 


    We spent $400 million of our money for an institution allegedly supporting anti American protests. Where else does this nonsense happen?
    I don’t know what was anti-American about it. Exercising free speech via assembly is pro-American as far as I’m concerned. Where does any western country with higher levels of freedom try to punish schools because the students did something the government disapprove of? 

    Why the heck are taxpayers subsidizing a school with BILLIONS in its endowment?


     So it wasn’t your classes canceled or classrooms destroyed? Taking over a university, preventing students from receiving their extremely expensive education, while rallying hate against America and its policies. If he were a citizen sure. But here on a green card? The law and immigration rules are not so clear.

    All from someone who is not a citizen. Let him get his day in court. Let him express his hatred of a group of Americans in front of a judge.
    Government give schools grant money for specific research. 
    And fund PhD programs and research but yea, we don’t need any of that shit because the billionaire class will invent all the new things and make new great products and discoveries without the lib educators being involved.

    Columbia has a $15 billion endowment and charges students nearly half a million dollars for a degree. If they are going to allow students to be bullied and intimidated  by Hamas supporting non citizens, they clearly have no need for taxpayer money.
    When you say allow, what do you mean exactly? This seems to be at the center of the debate, so it should be clarified. At the time, dozens of students were arrested, which goes against the “allow” narrative. 
  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,133
    What does Columbia University “protecting Jews” look like? Because the COOTWH Administration said it, it must be true, eh?
    Game, set and match, even nbc can’t bail out that assertion 

    “… if the State Department has “reasonable ground to believe that a noncitizen’s presence or activities in the country would have serious adverse foreign policy consequences, then that person is deportable, and so even a green card holder can be deportable on those grounds.”
    Thanks for expressing your agreement with a fascist state. Good thing you’re around protecting democracy. Why am I not surprised? Because you, and many others may not read it, from A Letter From An American:

    As the administration’s economic policies are rocking the economy, the administration’s arrest and detention of Mahmoud Khalil, a 30-year-old Syrian-born Palestinian activist who figured prominently in the Gaza Solidarity Encampment at Columbia University last April, seems designed to rock society. According to Democracy Now, Khalil is an Algerian citizen, but he holds a U.S. green card and is married to a U.S. citizen who is 8 months pregnant. 

    Shortly after he took office, Trump issued an executive order saying he would revoke the student visas of anyone he claimed sympathized with Hamas. On Saturday, agents from U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) arrested Khalil. Khalil’s lawyer said that ICE agents claimed they were acting on the orders of the State Department to revoke Khalil’s student visa, apparently unaware that Khalil, who graduated from Columbia’s School of International and Public Affairs in December 2024, is a lawful permanent resident of the United States. When his wife showed officers documents proving that status, the lawyer said, an officer said they were revoking his green card instead. He is apparently being held in Louisiana. 

    The revocation of a green card is very rare. The Associated Press noted that the Department of Homeland Security can begin the process of deportation for lawful permanent residents who are connected to alleged criminal activity. But Khalil hasn’t been charged with a crime. Nik Popli of Time magazine notes that a green card holder can be deported for supporting terrorist groups, but in that case the government must have material evidence. A Homeland Security spokesperson did not offer any such evidence, saying simply that Khalil’s arrest was “in support of President Trump’s executive orders prohibiting anti-Semitism” and that Khalil “led activities aligned to Hamas, a designated terrorist organization.” 

    That is, the Trump administration has arrested and detained a legal resident for expressing an opinion that Trump officials don’t like, likely using Khalil to launch this extraordinary attack on the First Amendment because they don’t expect Americans to care deeply about his fate. Once the principle is established that the government can arrest and jail protesters, though, officials will use it to silence opposition broadly. “This is the first arrest of many to come,” Trump posted just after noon. “We know there are more students at Columbia who have engaged in pro-terrorist, anti-Semitic, anti-American activity, and the Trump Administration will not tolerate it.”

    Representative Greg Casar (D-TX) posted: “This is illegal, and it endangers the rights of all Americans. In this country, people must be free to express their views—left or right, popular or unpopular—without being detained or punished by the government.” On this basic principle, Americans across the political spectrum appear to agree. Right-wing pundit Ann Coulter was one of those who stepped back from the idea of arrests and deportations of those expressing opinions. “There’s almost no one I don’t want to deport,” she posted, “but, unless they’ve committed a crime, isn’t this a violation of the first amendment?” 

    Today, U.S. District Judge Jesse M. Furman ordered that Khalil “shall not be removed from the United States unless and until the Court orders otherwise,” and ordered a hearing on Wednesday.

    Get your jackboots polished, there’s some libraries and bookstores to storm.


    It might be rare, but those are the rules. It’s rare because most who emigrate here do not support and organize rallies for enemies of the USA. 

    He came here for a better life, and thanked this country by supporting a terrorist organization. And after you sift thru the liberal media and those long posts, you’ll find out deportation is perfectly legal in this case. So we should now break the law or rules to support terrorism? 

    Edit, and I can also support the judges ruling, better he receive due process. We know where that path ends up.
    And we know Trump’s motive is to attack the educational system and suppress freedom
    of expression on campuses, and not fight anti-semitism. 


    We spent $400 million of our money for an institution allegedly supporting anti American protests. Where else does this nonsense happen?
    I don’t know what was anti-American about it. Exercising free speech via assembly is pro-American as far as I’m concerned. Where does any western country with higher levels of freedom try to punish schools because the students did something the government disapprove of? 

    Why the heck are taxpayers subsidizing a school with BILLIONS in its endowment?


     So it wasn’t your classes canceled or classrooms destroyed? Taking over a university, preventing students from receiving their extremely expensive education, while rallying hate against America and its policies. If he were a citizen sure. But here on a green card? The law and immigration rules are not so clear.

    All from someone who is not a citizen. Let him get his day in court. Let him express his hatred of a group of Americans in front of a judge.
    Government give schools grant money for specific research. 
    And fund PhD programs and research but yea, we don’t need any of that shit because the billionaire class will invent all the new things and make new great products and discoveries without the lib educators being involved.

    Columbia has a $15 billion endowment and charges students nearly half a million dollars for a degree. If they are going to allow students to be bullied and intimidated  by Hamas supporting non citizens, they clearly have no need for taxpayer money.
    Why does Israel need $4 billion plus of US taxpayer money per year? They’ve been around now for 70+ years. Time to pull the big boy pants on and support themselves, eh?

    You need to read Columbia’s annual report and come back with an update.

    Bullied and intimidated, because they know the truth hurts. What does Columbia University “protecting Jewish students” look like? Safe ride vans with stars of David? Armed Mossad escorts? Everyone tapes their mouth upon entering campus? Please express what that is.

    So American citizens who happen to be Jewish and many not deserve to have classes cancelled have their graduation cancelled and be bullied and intimidated in their own country by non citizens? Have property on their campus destroyed? All organized by non citizens? And that commenting is admitting the Ivy League gets more money than Israel from the US?
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 40,575
    What does Columbia University “protecting Jews” look like? Because the COOTWH Administration said it, it must be true, eh?
    Game, set and match, even nbc can’t bail out that assertion 

    “… if the State Department has “reasonable ground to believe that a noncitizen’s presence or activities in the country would have serious adverse foreign policy consequences, then that person is deportable, and so even a green card holder can be deportable on those grounds.”
    Thanks for expressing your agreement with a fascist state. Good thing you’re around protecting democracy. Why am I not surprised? Because you, and many others may not read it, from A Letter From An American:

    As the administration’s economic policies are rocking the economy, the administration’s arrest and detention of Mahmoud Khalil, a 30-year-old Syrian-born Palestinian activist who figured prominently in the Gaza Solidarity Encampment at Columbia University last April, seems designed to rock society. According to Democracy Now, Khalil is an Algerian citizen, but he holds a U.S. green card and is married to a U.S. citizen who is 8 months pregnant. 

    Shortly after he took office, Trump issued an executive order saying he would revoke the student visas of anyone he claimed sympathized with Hamas. On Saturday, agents from U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) arrested Khalil. Khalil’s lawyer said that ICE agents claimed they were acting on the orders of the State Department to revoke Khalil’s student visa, apparently unaware that Khalil, who graduated from Columbia’s School of International and Public Affairs in December 2024, is a lawful permanent resident of the United States. When his wife showed officers documents proving that status, the lawyer said, an officer said they were revoking his green card instead. He is apparently being held in Louisiana. 

    The revocation of a green card is very rare. The Associated Press noted that the Department of Homeland Security can begin the process of deportation for lawful permanent residents who are connected to alleged criminal activity. But Khalil hasn’t been charged with a crime. Nik Popli of Time magazine notes that a green card holder can be deported for supporting terrorist groups, but in that case the government must have material evidence. A Homeland Security spokesperson did not offer any such evidence, saying simply that Khalil’s arrest was “in support of President Trump’s executive orders prohibiting anti-Semitism” and that Khalil “led activities aligned to Hamas, a designated terrorist organization.” 

    That is, the Trump administration has arrested and detained a legal resident for expressing an opinion that Trump officials don’t like, likely using Khalil to launch this extraordinary attack on the First Amendment because they don’t expect Americans to care deeply about his fate. Once the principle is established that the government can arrest and jail protesters, though, officials will use it to silence opposition broadly. “This is the first arrest of many to come,” Trump posted just after noon. “We know there are more students at Columbia who have engaged in pro-terrorist, anti-Semitic, anti-American activity, and the Trump Administration will not tolerate it.”

    Representative Greg Casar (D-TX) posted: “This is illegal, and it endangers the rights of all Americans. In this country, people must be free to express their views—left or right, popular or unpopular—without being detained or punished by the government.” On this basic principle, Americans across the political spectrum appear to agree. Right-wing pundit Ann Coulter was one of those who stepped back from the idea of arrests and deportations of those expressing opinions. “There’s almost no one I don’t want to deport,” she posted, “but, unless they’ve committed a crime, isn’t this a violation of the first amendment?” 

    Today, U.S. District Judge Jesse M. Furman ordered that Khalil “shall not be removed from the United States unless and until the Court orders otherwise,” and ordered a hearing on Wednesday.

    Get your jackboots polished, there’s some libraries and bookstores to storm.


    It might be rare, but those are the rules. It’s rare because most who emigrate here do not support and organize rallies for enemies of the USA. 

    He came here for a better life, and thanked this country by supporting a terrorist organization. And after you sift thru the liberal media and those long posts, you’ll find out deportation is perfectly legal in this case. So we should now break the law or rules to support terrorism? 

    Edit, and I can also support the judges ruling, better he receive due process. We know where that path ends up.
    And we know Trump’s motive is to attack the educational system and suppress freedom
    of expression on campuses, and not fight anti-semitism. 


    We spent $400 million of our money for an institution allegedly supporting anti American protests. Where else does this nonsense happen?
    I don’t know what was anti-American about it. Exercising free speech via assembly is pro-American as far as I’m concerned. Where does any western country with higher levels of freedom try to punish schools because the students did something the government disapprove of? 

    Why the heck are taxpayers subsidizing a school with BILLIONS in its endowment?


     So it wasn’t your classes canceled or classrooms destroyed? Taking over a university, preventing students from receiving their extremely expensive education, while rallying hate against America and its policies. If he were a citizen sure. But here on a green card? The law and immigration rules are not so clear.

    All from someone who is not a citizen. Let him get his day in court. Let him express his hatred of a group of Americans in front of a judge.
    Government give schools grant money for specific research. 
    And fund PhD programs and research but yea, we don’t need any of that shit because the billionaire class will invent all the new things and make new great products and discoveries without the lib educators being involved.

    Columbia has a $15 billion endowment and charges students nearly half a million dollars for a degree. If they are going to allow students to be bullied and intimidated  by Hamas supporting non citizens, they clearly have no need for taxpayer money.
    Why does Israel need $4 billion plus of US taxpayer money per year? They’ve been around now for 70+ years. Time to pull the big boy pants on and support themselves, eh?

    You need to read Columbia’s annual report and come back with an update.

    Bullied and intimidated, because they know the truth hurts. What does Columbia University “protecting Jewish students” look like? Safe ride vans with stars of David? Armed Mossad escorts? Everyone tapes their mouth upon entering campus? Please express what that is.

    So American citizens who happen to be Jewish and many not deserve to have classes cancelled have their graduation cancelled and be bullied and intimidated in their own country by non citizens? Have property on their campus destroyed? All organized by non citizens? And that commenting is admitting the Ivy League gets more money than Israel from the US?
    US taxpayers get something in return for the money paid to Columbia University. What do US taxpayers receive for US tax dollars to Israel? What tangible benefit? Peace in the Middle East and “the only ‘democracy’ in the Middle East” don’t count.

    If you showed an ounce of sympathy for any one of the 47,000+ Palestinians killed in Gaza, the vast majority by indiscriminate Israeli bombing, I might have an ounce of sympathy for those poor Columbia University students who missed their graduation ceremony, had classes canceled and couldn’t stand the criticism of a country they don’t live in and yet will go on to hang their diploma on the wall of their office in their six figure+ paying job, get married, have kids and live in a big beautiful house or apartment somewhere in the world and live a peaceful and comfortable life. Your equating the two exposes your hatred.
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