America's Gun Violence #2

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  • JeBurkhardtJeBurkhardt Posts: 2,895
    mickeyrat said:
    CM189191 said:
    hunter hospitalized after accidentally shooting himself in the leg

    https://bringmethenews.com/minnesota-news/minnesota-hunter-hospitalized-after-accidentally-shooting-himself-in-the-leg

    Better luck next time Darwin
    The initial investigation indicates the man accidentally discharged his weapon while climbing into a tree stand.


    my take....
    The initial investigation indicates the man recklessly climbed the tree  while weapon was loaded with a round chambered and the safety off. The weapon discharged, striking the man in the leg.


    BINGO! 
  • PJPOWERPJPOWER In Yo FacePosts: 6,492
    edited November 2021
    mickeyrat said:
    CM189191 said:
    hunter hospitalized after accidentally shooting himself in the leg

    https://bringmethenews.com/minnesota-news/minnesota-hunter-hospitalized-after-accidentally-shooting-himself-in-the-leg

    Better luck next time Darwin
    The initial investigation indicates the man accidentally discharged his weapon while climbing into a tree stand.


    my take....
    The initial investigation indicates the man recklessly climbed the tree  while weapon was loaded with a round chambered and the safety off. The weapon discharged, striking the man in the leg.


    BINGO! 
    Was it Alec Baldwin?  Seems like that is how he handles his firearms, so just checking.
    Post edited by PJPOWER on
  • static111static111 Posts: 3,823
    PJPOWER said:
    mickeyrat said:
    CM189191 said:
    hunter hospitalized after accidentally shooting himself in the leg

    https://bringmethenews.com/minnesota-news/minnesota-hunter-hospitalized-after-accidentally-shooting-himself-in-the-leg

    Better luck next time Darwin
    The initial investigation indicates the man accidentally discharged his weapon while climbing into a tree stand.


    my take....
    The initial investigation indicates the man recklessly climbed the tree  while weapon was loaded with a round chambered and the safety off. The weapon discharged, striking the man in the leg.


    BINGO! 
    Was it Alec Baldwin?  Seems like that is how he handles his firearms, so just checking.
    Of course he doesn't get held to the standards of everyday people when it comes to handling firearms.
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  • PJPOWERPJPOWER In Yo FacePosts: 6,492
    static111 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    mickeyrat said:
    CM189191 said:
    hunter hospitalized after accidentally shooting himself in the leg

    https://bringmethenews.com/minnesota-news/minnesota-hunter-hospitalized-after-accidentally-shooting-himself-in-the-leg

    Better luck next time Darwin
    The initial investigation indicates the man accidentally discharged his weapon while climbing into a tree stand.


    my take....
    The initial investigation indicates the man recklessly climbed the tree  while weapon was loaded with a round chambered and the safety off. The weapon discharged, striking the man in the leg.


    BINGO! 
    Was it Alec Baldwin?  Seems like that is how he handles his firearms, so just checking.
    Of course he doesn't get held to the standards of everyday people when it comes to handling firearms.
    Oh yeah, I forget.  If you are a Baldwin, you can be reckless with a gun because you are just an idiot actor, not a “responsible” gun handler.
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 26,120
    PJPOWER said:
    static111 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    mickeyrat said:
    CM189191 said:
    hunter hospitalized after accidentally shooting himself in the leg

    https://bringmethenews.com/minnesota-news/minnesota-hunter-hospitalized-after-accidentally-shooting-himself-in-the-leg

    Better luck next time Darwin
    The initial investigation indicates the man accidentally discharged his weapon while climbing into a tree stand.


    my take....
    The initial investigation indicates the man recklessly climbed the tree  while weapon was loaded with a round chambered and the safety off. The weapon discharged, striking the man in the leg.


    BINGO! 
    Was it Alec Baldwin?  Seems like that is how he handles his firearms, so just checking.
    Of course he doesn't get held to the standards of everyday people when it comes to handling firearms.
    Oh yeah, I forget.  If you are a Baldwin, you can be reckless with a gun because you are just an idiot actor, not a “responsible” gun handler.

    so wait. this hunter was handed his gun by someone in an authority role over him stating it was "cold" in a (loose) approximation of movie set protocol?
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 26,120
    he was just acting like he was going to shoot an animal from tree stand?
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  • PJPOWERPJPOWER In Yo FacePosts: 6,492
    edited November 2021
    mickeyrat said:
    PJPOWER said:
    static111 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    mickeyrat said:
    CM189191 said:
    hunter hospitalized after accidentally shooting himself in the leg

    https://bringmethenews.com/minnesota-news/minnesota-hunter-hospitalized-after-accidentally-shooting-himself-in-the-leg

    Better luck next time Darwin
    The initial investigation indicates the man accidentally discharged his weapon while climbing into a tree stand.


    my take....
    The initial investigation indicates the man recklessly climbed the tree  while weapon was loaded with a round chambered and the safety off. The weapon discharged, striking the man in the leg.


    BINGO! 
    Was it Alec Baldwin?  Seems like that is how he handles his firearms, so just checking.
    Of course he doesn't get held to the standards of everyday people when it comes to handling firearms.
    Oh yeah, I forget.  If you are a Baldwin, you can be reckless with a gun because you are just an idiot actor, not a “responsible” gun handler.

    so wait. this hunter was handed his gun by someone in an authority role over him stating it was "cold" in a (loose) approximation of movie set protocol?
    Who knows, once it was in his hands, it was his responsibility not to point it at his leg and do a quick safety check, just like Baldwin.  At least he “just” shot himself and his carelessness didn’t take someone else’s life.
  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 7,411
    Since we’re taking about Alex again it made me think of this. I was watching part of the closing arguments on the Rittenhouse trial. The defense was going to use the gun as a prop in his speech, as he grabbed it he pointed to someone off camera and said “he checked it, it’s clear.”
    Immediately the judge stopped him, and asked when? Then before he could answer he said “have it checked again.” It was checked in front of everyone to see.

    To me that seems like how things should work. Not everyone can be expected to be an expert. But if you’re not and you plan to handle a gun, at least be present and witness it being checked by an expert and not just assume that it was.
  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business...Posts: 10,739
    so when is parent of the year Baldwin getting charged?
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  • OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MNPosts: 4,359
    Rittenhouse is walking and Baldwin is probably going to be convicted (via plea bargain that gives him probation and no time).

    But that doesn't reflect which on I'd feel safer around.
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  • mace1229 said:
    Since we’re taking about Alex again it made me think of this. I was watching part of the closing arguments on the Rittenhouse trial. The defense was going to use the gun as a prop in his speech, as he grabbed it he pointed to someone off camera and said “he checked it, it’s clear.”
    Immediately the judge stopped him, and asked when? Then before he could answer he said “have it checked again.” It was checked in front of everyone to see.

    To me that seems like how things should work. Not everyone can be expected to be an expert. But if you’re not and you plan to handle a gun, at least be present and witness it being checked by an expert and not just assume that it was.
    That's how it should be done. 

    I will put it this way too though.  When I skydive I use one of the drop zones chutes because I don't do it often enough to warrant me packing my own chute.  I pay them good money for that knowledge and expertise.  

    Same way I see Baldwin.  His production crew paid good money to ensure safety on the set because he is not an expert and they failed everyone.

    This should change in every scenario of a movie set going forward and it is checked just before you yell action.
  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business...Posts: 10,739
    Yes, you jumping out of a perfectly safe airplane and going splat in which you liked signed a waiver is the same thing as a clueless actor pulling the trigger of a gun he was to stupid to check…did the person murdered get a chance to sign a waiver.   Quit with the bull Shit excuses…
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  • Yes, you jumping out of a perfectly safe airplane and going splat in which you liked signed a waiver is the same thing as a clueless actor pulling the trigger of a gun he was to stupid to check…did the person murdered get a chance to sign a waiver.   Quit with the bull Shit excuses…
    He signed a contract.  It's not bullshit.

    Someone signed off on the plane, someone signed off on the chute, I signed away my rights.  It all has nothing to do with the service that I bought though.  I paid for safe travel from experts.  The gun expert should have done the same.


  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business...Posts: 10,739
    why don't you gun owners who don’t hunt just admit you like playing with guns, you like stroking the barrel, it gives you power and courage and it makes you shake when it goes off…quit the bullshit…
    Give Peas A Chance…
  • CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via ChicagoPosts: 6,535
    Yes, you jumping out of a perfectly safe airplane and going splat in which you liked signed a waiver is the same thing as a clueless actor pulling the trigger of a gun he was to stupid to check…did the person murdered get a chance to sign a waiver.   Quit with the bull Shit excuses…

    Unfortunate as it was, the shooting was a workplace injury.

    Employees are not held accountable for injury to other co-workers. (for example, a crane operator accidently drops a load on a co-worker)

    The impetus is upon the employer to provide a safe work environment.

    Baldwin might be held financially accountable as the Executive Producer on the film set.

    But it's unlikely he'll be arrested or face any charges.
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  • CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via ChicagoPosts: 6,535
    Yes, you jumping out of a perfectly safe airplane and going splat in which you liked signed a waiver is the same thing as a clueless actor pulling the trigger of a gun he was to stupid to check…did the person murdered get a chance to sign a waiver.   Quit with the bull Shit excuses…
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farwell_v._Boston_&_Worcester_Railroad_Corp.

    ...hope you signed your waiver before going to work this morning...

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  • why don't you gun owners who don’t hunt just admit you like playing with guns, you like stroking the barrel, it gives you power and courage and it makes you shake when it goes off…quit the bullshit…
    If you shake when shooting then I suggest one find a new hobby...
  • hedonisthedonist standing on the edge of foreverPosts: 24,519
    why don't you gun owners who don’t hunt just admit you like playing with guns, you like stroking the barrel, it gives you power and courage and it makes you shake when it goes off…quit the bullshit…
    Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

    Tough to pass up a good barrel stroke, though…
  • hedonist said:
    why don't you gun owners who don’t hunt just admit you like playing with guns, you like stroking the barrel, it gives you power and courage and it makes you shake when it goes off…quit the bullshit…
    Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

    Tough to pass up a good barrel stroke, though…
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin LouisPosts: 20,124
    memphis rapper young dolph was shot and killed today. in memphis.

    i had never heard his music but the outpouring on twitter is sad to see.

    i saw someone post that being a rapper in your own hometown is probably the most dangerous job in entertainment.
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  • memphis rapper young dolph was shot and killed today. in memphis.

    i had never heard his music but the outpouring on twitter is sad to see.

    i saw someone post that being a rapper in your own hometown is probably the most dangerous job in entertainment.
    I mentioned this elsewhere but if you go down the rabbit hole of the underground of rap you'll find that gangs have a big grip on the rap game.

    If you have time look up MC Serch and MC hammer beef.  That will give you an idea on what kind of power they have and how dangerous it can be.
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon WinnipegPosts: 32,661
    mickeyrat said:
    CM189191 said:
    hunter hospitalized after accidentally shooting himself in the leg

    https://bringmethenews.com/minnesota-news/minnesota-hunter-hospitalized-after-accidentally-shooting-himself-in-the-leg

    Better luck next time Darwin
    The initial investigation indicates the man accidentally discharged his weapon while climbing into a tree stand.


    my take....
    The initial investigation indicates the man recklessly climbed the tree  while weapon was loaded with a round chambered and the safety off. The weapon discharged, striking the man in the leg.


    funny, I was recently told by one of our resident gun experts that "guns don't just go off". really. 
    I think I'll move to Australia


  • Walmart should replace their greeters with firearm experts who will clear your gun and make sure the safety is on before you enter the store. They’d have metal detectors and pat you down first as well so as to prevent the antis from skirting the rules.

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  • PJPOWERPJPOWER In Yo FacePosts: 6,492
    edited November 2021
    mickeyrat said:
    CM189191 said:
    hunter hospitalized after accidentally shooting himself in the leg

    https://bringmethenews.com/minnesota-news/minnesota-hunter-hospitalized-after-accidentally-shooting-himself-in-the-leg

    Better luck next time Darwin
    The initial investigation indicates the man accidentally discharged his weapon while climbing into a tree stand.


    my take....
    The initial investigation indicates the man recklessly climbed the tree  while weapon was loaded with a round chambered and the safety off. The weapon discharged, striking the man in the leg.


    funny, I was recently told by one of our resident gun experts that "guns don't just go off". really. 
    They don’t.  They are mechanical devices that do not have minds of their own.  For a gun to go off, it must be loaded, trigger pulled, or hammer dropped.  They do not just “go off” without someone or something either accidentally or purposely causing them to.  How hard is that to understand?  Really?
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon WinnipegPosts: 32,661
    PJPOWER said:
    mickeyrat said:
    CM189191 said:
    hunter hospitalized after accidentally shooting himself in the leg

    https://bringmethenews.com/minnesota-news/minnesota-hunter-hospitalized-after-accidentally-shooting-himself-in-the-leg

    Better luck next time Darwin
    The initial investigation indicates the man accidentally discharged his weapon while climbing into a tree stand.


    my take....
    The initial investigation indicates the man recklessly climbed the tree  while weapon was loaded with a round chambered and the safety off. The weapon discharged, striking the man in the leg.


    funny, I was recently told by one of our resident gun experts that "guns don't just go off". really. 
    They don’t.  They are mechanical devices that do not have minds of their own.  For a gun to go off, it must be loaded, trigger pulled, or hammer dropped.  They do not just “go off” without someone or something either accidentally or purposely causing them to.  How hard is that to understand?  Really?
    i mean it can be triggered by something other than someone's finger. really. 
    I think I'll move to Australia


  • PJPOWERPJPOWER In Yo FacePosts: 6,492
    PJPOWER said:
    mickeyrat said:
    CM189191 said:
    hunter hospitalized after accidentally shooting himself in the leg

    https://bringmethenews.com/minnesota-news/minnesota-hunter-hospitalized-after-accidentally-shooting-himself-in-the-leg

    Better luck next time Darwin
    The initial investigation indicates the man accidentally discharged his weapon while climbing into a tree stand.


    my take....
    The initial investigation indicates the man recklessly climbed the tree  while weapon was loaded with a round chambered and the safety off. The weapon discharged, striking the man in the leg.


    funny, I was recently told by one of our resident gun experts that "guns don't just go off". really. 
    They don’t.  They are mechanical devices that do not have minds of their own.  For a gun to go off, it must be loaded, trigger pulled, or hammer dropped.  They do not just “go off” without someone or something either accidentally or purposely causing them to.  How hard is that to understand?  Really?
    i mean it can be triggered by something other than someone's finger. really. 
    I concur, but that’s not what you eluded to with your prior snarky comment.  “Really really”
    Anyways, I’m over it.
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin LouisPosts: 20,124
    memphis rapper young dolph was shot and killed today. in memphis.

    i had never heard his music but the outpouring on twitter is sad to see.

    i saw someone post that being a rapper in your own hometown is probably the most dangerous job in entertainment.
    I mentioned this elsewhere but if you go down the rabbit hole of the underground of rap you'll find that gangs have a big grip on the rap game.

    If you have time look up MC Serch and MC hammer beef.  That will give you an idea on what kind of power they have and how dangerous it can be.
    i had no idea serch and hammer had beef. hammer does not seem like the type to beef, and serch was a nerdy white dude. i guess 3rd bass may have gone after hammer in pop goes the weasel or something.

    now that i think about it, the gangs may have put up money for studio time or may even own underground record labels.

    it is all sad.
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  • Another “responsible” gun owner doing what “responsible” gun owners do.

    https://www.boston.com/news/local-news/2021/11/18/4-year-old-accidentally-shoots-hand-new-hampshire-weare/
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  • dankinddankind I am not your foot. Posts: 20,826
    Another “responsible” gun owner doing what “responsible” gun owners do.

    https://www.boston.com/news/local-news/2021/11/18/4-year-old-accidentally-shoots-hand-new-hampshire-weare/
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 25,700
    At this point it’s comical that we even debate this issue! America is just infatuated with weapons..
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