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  • Cropduster-80
    Cropduster-80 Posts: 2,034
    The cost of “freedom” is getting increasingly high by the day 
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,162

    UVALDE, Texas — Texas Gov. Greg Abbott says 15 people were killed in a shooting Tuesday at an elementary school.

    Abbott says the suspected shooter, an 18-year-old man, also died and was believed to be killed by responding officers. He says 14 children and one teacher were killed at Robb Elementary School in Uvalde, about 85 miles west of San Antonio.

    Abbott says the shooter had a handgun and possibly a rifle.


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  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,411
    Halifax2TheMax said:

    UVALDE, Texas — Texas Gov. Greg Abbott says 15 people were killed in a shooting Tuesday at an elementary school.

    Abbott says the suspected shooter, an 18-year-old man, also died and was believed to be killed by responding officers. He says 14 children and one teacher were killed at Robb Elementary School in Uvalde, about 85 miles west of San Antonio.

    Abbott says the shooter had a handgun and possibly a rifle.


    This country sucks.

    Countdown to assott blaming everyone but the person who did it
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,589
    Save the fetuses to be gunned down in elementary schools! What gun laws are in tejas if any? 
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  • josevolution
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    Halifax2TheMax said:

    UVALDE, Texas — Texas Gov. Greg Abbott says 15 people were killed in a shooting Tuesday at an elementary school.

    Abbott says the suspected shooter, an 18-year-old man, also died and was believed to be killed by responding officers. He says 14 children and one teacher were killed at Robb Elementary School in Uvalde, about 85 miles west of San Antonio.

    Abbott says the shooter had a handgun and possibly a rifle.


    This country sucks.

    The blood is on your hands governor! 
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  • Cropduster-80
    Cropduster-80 Posts: 2,034
    josevolution said:
    Save the fetuses to be gunned down in elementary schools! What gun laws are in tejas if any? 
    It’s no permit carry of handguns as of last September. Before that you needed a CC permit.  Don’t think anything changed with long guns besides generally the laws are getting more lax at the exact time they should be tightening them 
  • elvistheking44
    elvistheking44 Posts: 4,540
    edited May 2022
    pjhawks said:
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    That couldn’t be more false. Not every republican voted for trump or carries a gun. 
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  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,912
    elvistheking44 said:
    pjhawks said:
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    That couldn’t be more false. Not every republican voted for trump or carries a gun. 
    If you support the republicans you support guns, banning abortion,  limiting voting rights and much more bs.  
  • jimjam1982
    jimjam1982 AZ Posts: 1,471
    pjhawks said:
    elvistheking44 said:
    pjhawks said:
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    That couldn’t be more false. Not every republican voted for trump or carries a gun. 
    If you support the republicans you support guns, banning abortion,  limiting voting rights and much more bs.  
    I support Republican border security, national defense, and fiscal policy, and some of their other philosophies while abhorring them for those 3 things you mentioned.  Most Americans are in the middle.  This hardline stance on either side has to end.  Both sides have shitter agendas to promote the extremes.  

    If I do one thing before I leave Texas it will be voting against Abbot and Cruz, it doesn't even matter who the blue vote is.  This place is the pits. This gun shit has to end. Can't wait until I leave TX but I will make sure to get that ballot in against those two assholes before I do.
  • given2fly23
    given2fly23 Evanston, IL Posts: 6,042
    edited May 2022
    jimjam1982 said:
    pjhawks said:
    elvistheking44 said:
    pjhawks said:
    Deleted by admin
    That couldn’t be more false. Not every republican voted for trump or carries a gun. 
    If you support the republicans you support guns, banning abortion,  limiting voting rights and much more bs.  
    I support Republican border security, national defense, and fiscal policy, and some of their other philosophies while abhorring them for those 3 things you mentioned.  Most Americans are in the middle.  This hardline stance on either side has to end.  Both sides have shitter agendas to promote the extremes.  

    If I do one thing before I leave Texas it will be voting against Abbot and Cruz, it doesn't even matter who the blue vote is.  This place is the pits. This gun shit has to end. Can't wait until I leave TX but I will make sure to get that ballot in against those two assholes before I do.
    I used to be a Republican when they pretended to be about small government.  Now, this is their fiscal policy, which has pitted Americans against each other so the few can take more and more.  I left the party when Palin was chosen as McCain's VP because their chosen path was clear.  I will never vote Republican again in my life.

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  • Cropduster-80
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    edited May 2022
    given2fly23 said:
    jimjam1982 said:
    pjhawks said:
    elvistheking44 said:
    pjhawks said:
    Deleted by admin
    That couldn’t be more false. Not every republican voted for trump or carries a gun. 
    If you support the republicans you support guns, banning abortion,  limiting voting rights and much more bs.  
    I support Republican border security, national defense, and fiscal policy, and some of their other philosophies while abhorring them for those 3 things you mentioned.  Most Americans are in the middle.  This hardline stance on either side has to end.  Both sides have shitter agendas to promote the extremes.  

    If I do one thing before I leave Texas it will be voting against Abbot and Cruz, it doesn't even matter who the blue vote is.  This place is the pits. This gun shit has to end. Can't wait until I leave TX but I will make sure to get that ballot in against those two assholes before I do.
    I used to be a Republican when they pretended to be about small government.  Now, this is their fiscal policy, which has pitted Americans against each other so the few can take more and more.  I left the party when Palin was chosen as McCain's VP because their chosen path was clear.  I will never vote Republican again in my life.


    Republicans are populists now.  It’s not the free trade, pro business, limited government  party of the past.  Anyone who says they are a Republican because of finance/fiscal  issues are clinging to a party that doesn’t exist 

    it’s always been a balance of business interests and  social conservatives .  Now it’s just populism 

    couldn’t be more clear in the “corporations are people too” argument of the past in reference to corporate influence in politics to “business needs to keep its mouth shut” today 
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  • cblock4life
    cblock4life Posts: 1,855
    given2fly23 said:
    jimjam1982 said:
    pjhawks said:
    elvistheking44 said:
    pjhawks said:
    Deleted by admin
    That couldn’t be more false. Not every republican voted for trump or carries a gun. 
    If you support the republicans you support guns, banning abortion,  limiting voting rights and much more bs.  
    I support Republican border security, national defense, and fiscal policy, and some of their other philosophies while abhorring them for those 3 things you mentioned.  Most Americans are in the middle.  This hardline stance on either side has to end.  Both sides have shitter agendas to promote the extremes.  

    If I do one thing before I leave Texas it will be voting against Abbot and Cruz, it doesn't even matter who the blue vote is.  This place is the pits. This gun shit has to end. Can't wait until I leave TX but I will make sure to get that ballot in against those two assholes before I do.
    I used to be a Republican when they pretended to be about small government.  Now, this is their fiscal policy, which has pitted Americans against each other so the few can take more and more.  I left the party when Palin was chosen as McCain's VP because their chosen path was clear.  I will never vote Republican again in my life.


    I agree about Palin and it was disappointing because I really didn’t think McCain was a snake but you’re right it was a turning point for many borderline republicans.  And in fairness I have to say Hillary not leaving William showed no spine AND she continued to support him….if I hadn’t despised FF so much I wouldn’t have voted for her.  
  • cblock4life
    cblock4life Posts: 1,855
    Once again Americas Gun Violence hits the top of AMT and yet we have no gun problems, none at all.  Wonder if they’ll claim this was all made up as well.  Bet the parents of these children wish it was. 
  • given2fly23
    given2fly23 Evanston, IL Posts: 6,042
    edited May 2022
    cblock4life said:
    given2fly23 said:
    jimjam1982 said:
    pjhawks said:
    elvistheking44 said:
    pjhawks said:
    Deleted by admin
    That couldn’t be more false. Not every republican voted for trump or carries a gun. 
    If you support the republicans you support guns, banning abortion,  limiting voting rights and much more bs.  
    I support Republican border security, national defense, and fiscal policy, and some of their other philosophies while abhorring them for those 3 things you mentioned.  Most Americans are in the middle.  This hardline stance on either side has to end.  Both sides have shitter agendas to promote the extremes.  

    If I do one thing before I leave Texas it will be voting against Abbot and Cruz, it doesn't even matter who the blue vote is.  This place is the pits. This gun shit has to end. Can't wait until I leave TX but I will make sure to get that ballot in against those two assholes before I do.
    I used to be a Republican when they pretended to be about small government.  Now, this is their fiscal policy, which has pitted Americans against each other so the few can take more and more.  I left the party when Palin was chosen as McCain's VP because their chosen path was clear.  I will never vote Republican again in my life.


    I agree about Palin and it was disappointing because I really didn’t think McCain was a snake but you’re right it was a turning point for many borderline republicans.  And in fairness I have to say Hillary not leaving William showed no spine AND she continued to support him….if I hadn’t despised FF so much I wouldn’t have voted for her.  
    How is Hillary standing by a cheating, lying husband equivalent to the destruction the GOP has wrought upon our country?  Honest question.  So many of my friends (not the lazy ones, ones who actually follow politics) find fault on both sides as if it's equal.  The GOP doesn't even believe in democracy, let alone capitalism or our Constitution.  They are 100% ready to destroy our country in order to retain power.  How is that (R) even an option any more?

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  • cblock4life
    cblock4life Posts: 1,855
    given2fly23 said:
    cblock4life said:
    given2fly23 said:
    jimjam1982 said:
    pjhawks said:
    elvistheking44 said:
    pjhawks said:
    Deleted by admin
    That couldn’t be more false. Not every republican voted for trump or carries a gun. 
    If you support the republicans you support guns, banning abortion,  limiting voting rights and much more bs.  
    I support Republican border security, national defense, and fiscal policy, and some of their other philosophies while abhorring them for those 3 things you mentioned.  Most Americans are in the middle.  This hardline stance on either side has to end.  Both sides have shitter agendas to promote the extremes.  

    If I do one thing before I leave Texas it will be voting against Abbot and Cruz, it doesn't even matter who the blue vote is.  This place is the pits. This gun shit has to end. Can't wait until I leave TX but I will make sure to get that ballot in against those two assholes before I do.
    I used to be a Republican when they pretended to be about small government.  Now, this is their fiscal policy, which has pitted Americans against each other so the few can take more and more.  I left the party when Palin was chosen as McCain's VP because their chosen path was clear.  I will never vote Republican again in my life.


    I agree about Palin and it was disappointing because I really didn’t think McCain was a snake but you’re right it was a turning point for many borderline republicans.  And in fairness I have to say Hillary not leaving William showed no spine AND she continued to support him….if I hadn’t despised FF so much I wouldn’t have voted for her.  
    How is Hillary standing by a cheating, lying husband equivalent to the destruction the GOP has wrought upon our country?  Honest question.  So many of my friends (not the lazy ones, ones who actually follow politics) find fault on both sides as if it's equal.  The GOP doesn't even believe in democracy, let alone capitalism or our Constitution.  They are 100% ready to destroy our country in order to retain power.  How is that (R) even an option any more?

    Oh I totally get what you’re saying and I’ll explain, reword,  I wasn’t trying to compare Palin or Hillary to the shit going on today, I was trying to say that even then you could see that McCain caved and as someone who thought he was a decent republican even he turned out to be a POS.  Does that make sense? The petty politics of years ago is gone, I totally agree with that, nowadays it’s more about people wanting a blood bath.  
  • Cropduster-80
    Cropduster-80 Posts: 2,034
    edited May 2022
    cblock4life said:
    given2fly23 said:
    cblock4life said:
    given2fly23 said:
    jimjam1982 said:
    pjhawks said:
    elvistheking44 said:
    pjhawks said:
    Deleted by admin
    That couldn’t be more false. Not every republican voted for trump or carries a gun. 
    If you support the republicans you support guns, banning abortion,  limiting voting rights and much more bs.  
    I support Republican border security, national defense, and fiscal policy, and some of their other philosophies while abhorring them for those 3 things you mentioned.  Most Americans are in the middle.  This hardline stance on either side has to end.  Both sides have shitter agendas to promote the extremes.  

    If I do one thing before I leave Texas it will be voting against Abbot and Cruz, it doesn't even matter who the blue vote is.  This place is the pits. This gun shit has to end. Can't wait until I leave TX but I will make sure to get that ballot in against those two assholes before I do.
    I used to be a Republican when they pretended to be about small government.  Now, this is their fiscal policy, which has pitted Americans against each other so the few can take more and more.  I left the party when Palin was chosen as McCain's VP because their chosen path was clear.  I will never vote Republican again in my life.


    I agree about Palin and it was disappointing because I really didn’t think McCain was a snake but you’re right it was a turning point for many borderline republicans.  And in fairness I have to say Hillary not leaving William showed no spine AND she continued to support him….if I hadn’t despised FF so much I wouldn’t have voted for her.  
    How is Hillary standing by a cheating, lying husband equivalent to the destruction the GOP has wrought upon our country?  Honest question.  So many of my friends (not the lazy ones, ones who actually follow politics) find fault on both sides as if it's equal.  The GOP doesn't even believe in democracy, let alone capitalism or our Constitution.  They are 100% ready to destroy our country in order to retain power.  How is that (R) even an option any more?

    Oh I totally get what you’re saying and I’ll explain, reword,  I wasn’t trying to compare Palin or Hillary to the shit going on today, I was trying to say that even then you could see that McCain caved and as someone who thought he was a decent republican even he turned out to be a POS.  Does that make sense? The petty politics of years ago is gone, I totally agree with that, nowadays it’s more about people wanting a blood bath.  
    The primary system needs to be changed.  It makes it hard for a moderate to win.  Moderates are what most Americans are.  It’s primaries that force people to the extremes as that’s who you vote for in the general. The most hardcore member running in the primary. 

    It’s the only reason trump got the nomination.  Winning states with 30 percent of republicans. 70 percent didn’t even like the guy. That changed as soon as he was the nominee 

    McCain was a moderate. Palin was to secure the right flank.  But it’s not like they would have voted for Obama anyway, so doing it at all is stupid 
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  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,256
    Guns are the tool.  Nobody uses a hammer unless they intend to build a house.  I'm not going to use a car unless I intend to go somewhere.

    I'm for tighter gun control and generally anti-gun.  But people are out there wanting to kill a lot of people.   What is different today than 50 years ago when guns were still out there easy to get?  
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,388
    Cropduster-80 said:
    cblock4life said:
    given2fly23 said:
    cblock4life said:
    given2fly23 said:
    jimjam1982 said:
    pjhawks said:
    elvistheking44 said:
    pjhawks said:
    Deleted by admin
    That couldn’t be more false. Not every republican voted for trump or carries a gun. 
    If you support the republicans you support guns, banning abortion,  limiting voting rights and much more bs.  
    I support Republican border security, national defense, and fiscal policy, and some of their other philosophies while abhorring them for those 3 things you mentioned.  Most Americans are in the middle.  This hardline stance on either side has to end.  Both sides have shitter agendas to promote the extremes.  

    If I do one thing before I leave Texas it will be voting against Abbot and Cruz, it doesn't even matter who the blue vote is.  This place is the pits. This gun shit has to end. Can't wait until I leave TX but I will make sure to get that ballot in against those two assholes before I do.
    I used to be a Republican when they pretended to be about small government.  Now, this is their fiscal policy, which has pitted Americans against each other so the few can take more and more.  I left the party when Palin was chosen as McCain's VP because their chosen path was clear.  I will never vote Republican again in my life.


    I agree about Palin and it was disappointing because I really didn’t think McCain was a snake but you’re right it was a turning point for many borderline republicans.  And in fairness I have to say Hillary not leaving William showed no spine AND she continued to support him….if I hadn’t despised FF so much I wouldn’t have voted for her.  
    How is Hillary standing by a cheating, lying husband equivalent to the destruction the GOP has wrought upon our country?  Honest question.  So many of my friends (not the lazy ones, ones who actually follow politics) find fault on both sides as if it's equal.  The GOP doesn't even believe in democracy, let alone capitalism or our Constitution.  They are 100% ready to destroy our country in order to retain power.  How is that (R) even an option any more?

    Oh I totally get what you’re saying and I’ll explain, reword,  I wasn’t trying to compare Palin or Hillary to the shit going on today, I was trying to say that even then you could see that McCain caved and as someone who thought he was a decent republican even he turned out to be a POS.  Does that make sense? The petty politics of years ago is gone, I totally agree with that, nowadays it’s more about people wanting a blood bath.  
    The primary system needs to be changed.  It makes it hard for a moderate to win.  Moderates are what most Americans are.  It’s primaries that force people to the extremes as that’s who you vote for in the general. The most hardcore member running in the primary. 

    It’s the only reason trump got the nomination.  Winning states with 30 percent of republicans. 70 percent didn’t even like the guy. That changed as soon as he was the nominee 

    McCain was a moderate. Palin was to secure the right flank.  But it’s not like they would have voted for Obama anyway, so doing it at all is stupid 

    look at primary voting participation. if all who vote in a general chose to take the time for a primary things could change.  even general election participation is inadequate imo....
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  • Cropduster-80
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    mickeyrat said:
    Cropduster-80 said:
    cblock4life said:
    given2fly23 said:
    cblock4life said:
    given2fly23 said:
    jimjam1982 said:
    pjhawks said:
    elvistheking44 said:
    pjhawks said:
    Deleted by admin
    That couldn’t be more false. Not every republican voted for trump or carries a gun. 
    If you support the republicans you support guns, banning abortion,  limiting voting rights and much more bs.  
    I support Republican border security, national defense, and fiscal policy, and some of their other philosophies while abhorring them for those 3 things you mentioned.  Most Americans are in the middle.  This hardline stance on either side has to end.  Both sides have shitter agendas to promote the extremes.  

    If I do one thing before I leave Texas it will be voting against Abbot and Cruz, it doesn't even matter who the blue vote is.  This place is the pits. This gun shit has to end. Can't wait until I leave TX but I will make sure to get that ballot in against those two assholes before I do.
    I used to be a Republican when they pretended to be about small government.  Now, this is their fiscal policy, which has pitted Americans against each other so the few can take more and more.  I left the party when Palin was chosen as McCain's VP because their chosen path was clear.  I will never vote Republican again in my life.


    I agree about Palin and it was disappointing because I really didn’t think McCain was a snake but you’re right it was a turning point for many borderline republicans.  And in fairness I have to say Hillary not leaving William showed no spine AND she continued to support him….if I hadn’t despised FF so much I wouldn’t have voted for her.  
    How is Hillary standing by a cheating, lying husband equivalent to the destruction the GOP has wrought upon our country?  Honest question.  So many of my friends (not the lazy ones, ones who actually follow politics) find fault on both sides as if it's equal.  The GOP doesn't even believe in democracy, let alone capitalism or our Constitution.  They are 100% ready to destroy our country in order to retain power.  How is that (R) even an option any more?

    Oh I totally get what you’re saying and I’ll explain, reword,  I wasn’t trying to compare Palin or Hillary to the shit going on today, I was trying to say that even then you could see that McCain caved and as someone who thought he was a decent republican even he turned out to be a POS.  Does that make sense? The petty politics of years ago is gone, I totally agree with that, nowadays it’s more about people wanting a blood bath.  
    The primary system needs to be changed.  It makes it hard for a moderate to win.  Moderates are what most Americans are.  It’s primaries that force people to the extremes as that’s who you vote for in the general. The most hardcore member running in the primary. 

    It’s the only reason trump got the nomination.  Winning states with 30 percent of republicans. 70 percent didn’t even like the guy. That changed as soon as he was the nominee 

    McCain was a moderate. Palin was to secure the right flank.  But it’s not like they would have voted for Obama anyway, so doing it at all is stupid 

    look at primary voting participation. if all who vote in a general chose to take the time for a primary things could change.  even general election participation is inadequate imo....
    That’s true too. Primaries attract far less moderate voters to begin with 
  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,773
    bootlegger10 said:
    Guns are the tool.  Nobody uses a hammer unless they intend to build a house.  I'm not going to use a car unless I intend to go somewhere.

    I'm for tighter gun control and generally anti-gun.  But people are out there wanting to kill a lot of people.   What is different today than 50 years ago when guns were still out there easy to get?  
    Besides Fox News? And a dramatically more rabid gun culture? 
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