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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662
    Merkin Baller said:
    brianlux said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    The Juggler said:
    I'm telling you guys, it's these damn video games that are to blame for all this


    Wrong. It’s the rap music.

    LOL (sort of,  but I get it!) both ^^^.
    Of course on a more serious note, a lot of it is being promoted by radical right wing republicans.  The Buffalo shootings, for example, are (at least in an off-handed way) being supported by the right wing fanatics.  The Buffalo shooter appears to have been motivated by his belief in "the great replacement theory" which proposes that "Democrats are operating an open-door immigration policy to replace Republican voters with people of color and keep themselves in power permanently" and that it is an "extremist ideology expounding the view that immigration will ultimately destroy white values and western civilization". 
    Well that sure as hell makes no sense.  First of all, the theory is false (you can read about that in the article I quoted above and linked below), and absurd.  Secondly, the people this creep shot and killed were American citizens.  Insanity takes a further tightening grip on an ever widening segment of America.  And that some of out so-called "leaders" are embracing this shit is quite disturbing.
    Here's the link:

    Some people think non white = not American. 

    See birtherism. 

    If these idiots really thought about it, since they believe people are being immigrated into America and are going to change the country, they should be advocating helping Native Americans to rid the country of not just African Americans but, hells bells, lets get rid of the English and the Irish and all the Hispanic people and those nasty Asians, and we definitely want to purge this country of the worthless Amish people!
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    that's the thing brian....there's not a whole lot of brain power that goes into these ways of thinking. consistency is never their strong suit. 
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  • The Juggler
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    mace1229 said:
    Parksy said:
    For those Canadians reading....    imagine a political candidate running for Premiere who posts family photos of their kids and spouses all celebrating their guns. 

    What is considered 'normal' in America.... is right fucked up in Canada when it comes to guns. I remember watching the Rittenhouse scenario just floored... absolutely floored that a kid was running around with a rifle and it was like "Yeah, this... this is pretty normal."  Cops roll up....  "super, super normal"
    I don’t think the typical person thought that was normal. Nothing about those events were really normal. People setting fires to cars and buildings without any fear of prosecution. Looting and robbing stores in the open. A kid running around with a gun was just adding to what most people thought was crazy.
    Said kid, who travelled a couple hours to that nonsense, shoots 3 people, kills one, gets off and then is treated as a hero to 45% of the country and gets to meet the disgraced former president at his resort/home. Betcha this Buffalo terrorist also considered Rittenhouse a hero too.  
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,055
    The Juggler said:
    mace1229 said:
    Parksy said:
    For those Canadians reading....    imagine a political candidate running for Premiere who posts family photos of their kids and spouses all celebrating their guns. 

    What is considered 'normal' in America.... is right fucked up in Canada when it comes to guns. I remember watching the Rittenhouse scenario just floored... absolutely floored that a kid was running around with a rifle and it was like "Yeah, this... this is pretty normal."  Cops roll up....  "super, super normal"
    I don’t think the typical person thought that was normal. Nothing about those events were really normal. People setting fires to cars and buildings without any fear of prosecution. Looting and robbing stores in the open. A kid running around with a gun was just adding to what most people thought was crazy.
    Said kid, who travelled a couple hours to that nonsense, shoots 3 people, kills one, gets off and then is treated as a hero to 45% of the country and gets to meet the disgraced former president at his resort/home. Betcha this Buffalo terrorist also considered Rittenhouse a hero too.  
    he also partied down with lara logan at mar a lago.
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,055
    The Juggler said:
    Tucker Carlson has railed against the supposed replacement theory on multiple occasions...
    when? i have seen clips of him saying that the great replacement is happening currently.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    The Juggler said:
    Tucker Carlson has railed against the supposed replacement theory on multiple occasions...
    when? i have seen clips of him saying that the great replacement is happening currently.
    I guess I worded that weirdly. Meant to say he agrees that it is happening and talks about it on his show a bit. 
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  • cblock4life
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    HughFreakingDillon said:
    I'll admit, this canadian had this shit on his mind when I travelled to Seattle. I found myself scouring my surroundings there more than I ever have anywhere in canada. 
    Not surprised.   Living/visiting the US is like playing Russian roulette.  Living here I assume that at any given time one of us (family member) may be taken before we’re ready for it.  I tell my kids all the time that it must be all predetermined otherwise we’re all fucking crazy for never doing anything about it and making it stop. Citizens in the US have accepted that our lives are literally like a video game. 
  • Lerxst1992
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    Parksy said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    Parksy said:
    For those Canadians reading....    imagine a political candidate running for Premiere who posts family photos of their kids and spouses all celebrating their guns. 

    What is considered 'normal' in America.... is right fucked up in Canada when it comes to guns. I remember watching the Rittenhouse scenario just floored... absolutely floored that a kid was running around with a rifle and it was like "Yeah, this... this is pretty normal."  Cops roll up....  "super, super normal"
    I imagine it will happen at some point....and most definitely a candidate from Alberta. 
    100% on Alberta, but I don't think we'll ever get to the point of being excited and celebrating guns.  I can see someone strongly advocating against gun control legislation as it were.. but not openly celebrating guns with their family.  That's just creepy, even for Albertans lol 


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  • cblock4life
    cblock4life Posts: 1,855
    People talk and talk and nothing ever gets done…..

    The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result

    We’re all fucking insane in the US. 
  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,827
    The Juggler said:
    mace1229 said:
    Parksy said:
    For those Canadians reading....    imagine a political candidate running for Premiere who posts family photos of their kids and spouses all celebrating their guns. 

    What is considered 'normal' in America.... is right fucked up in Canada when it comes to guns. I remember watching the Rittenhouse scenario just floored... absolutely floored that a kid was running around with a rifle and it was like "Yeah, this... this is pretty normal."  Cops roll up....  "super, super normal"
    I don’t think the typical person thought that was normal. Nothing about those events were really normal. People setting fires to cars and buildings without any fear of prosecution. Looting and robbing stores in the open. A kid running around with a gun was just adding to what most people thought was crazy.
    Said kid, who travelled a couple hours to that nonsense, shoots 3 people, kills one, gets off and then is treated as a hero to 45% of the country and gets to meet the disgraced former president at his resort/home. Betcha this Buffalo terrorist also considered Rittenhouse a hero too.  
    The media kept reporting things like “drove hours and crossed state lines” like it was a crime to do that. How many of us are crossing state lines for this tour? I am.
    But in reality he drove 20 miles, to a neighborhood that was his second home. His dad lived there, he had lived there, had a job there.
    He probably lived much closer and had more connections to that town than most people there that night.
    I still think it was a terrible decision for him. I just don’t get the argument of he drove hours and crossed state lines. Half isn’t true, and the other half who cares?
  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,827
    Anyway, wasn’t defending Kyle. I think it was a dumb thing for him to do, and dumb for Trump to endorse it. I was just disagreeing with the comment that it was considered normal. It wasn’t. I haven’t heard anyone saying it’s normal. If it was, he wouldn’t be a hero to anyone. 
    No one here expects to see a 17 year old walking down the street with an assault rifle next time they leave their house, because it’s not a normal thing to happen.
  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,256
    mace1229 said:
    The Juggler said:
    mace1229 said:
    Parksy said:
    For those Canadians reading....    imagine a political candidate running for Premiere who posts family photos of their kids and spouses all celebrating their guns. 

    What is considered 'normal' in America.... is right fucked up in Canada when it comes to guns. I remember watching the Rittenhouse scenario just floored... absolutely floored that a kid was running around with a rifle and it was like "Yeah, this... this is pretty normal."  Cops roll up....  "super, super normal"
    I don’t think the typical person thought that was normal. Nothing about those events were really normal. People setting fires to cars and buildings without any fear of prosecution. Looting and robbing stores in the open. A kid running around with a gun was just adding to what most people thought was crazy.
    Said kid, who travelled a couple hours to that nonsense, shoots 3 people, kills one, gets off and then is treated as a hero to 45% of the country and gets to meet the disgraced former president at his resort/home. Betcha this Buffalo terrorist also considered Rittenhouse a hero too.  
    The media kept reporting things like “drove hours and crossed state lines” like it was a crime to do that. How many of us are crossing state lines for this tour? I am.
    But in reality he drove 20 miles, to a neighborhood that was his second home. His dad lived there, he had lived there, had a job there.
    He probably lived much closer and had more connections to that town than most people there that night.
    I still think it was a terrible decision for him. I just don’t get the argument of he drove hours and crossed state lines. Half isn’t true, and the other half who cares?
    When I hear that he drove across state line and hours away that it is meant to show that it was all part of a premeditated, organized plan. 
  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,827
    bootlegger10 said:
    mace1229 said:
    The Juggler said:
    mace1229 said:
    Parksy said:
    For those Canadians reading....    imagine a political candidate running for Premiere who posts family photos of their kids and spouses all celebrating their guns. 

    What is considered 'normal' in America.... is right fucked up in Canada when it comes to guns. I remember watching the Rittenhouse scenario just floored... absolutely floored that a kid was running around with a rifle and it was like "Yeah, this... this is pretty normal."  Cops roll up....  "super, super normal"
    I don’t think the typical person thought that was normal. Nothing about those events were really normal. People setting fires to cars and buildings without any fear of prosecution. Looting and robbing stores in the open. A kid running around with a gun was just adding to what most people thought was crazy.
    Said kid, who travelled a couple hours to that nonsense, shoots 3 people, kills one, gets off and then is treated as a hero to 45% of the country and gets to meet the disgraced former president at his resort/home. Betcha this Buffalo terrorist also considered Rittenhouse a hero too.  
    The media kept reporting things like “drove hours and crossed state lines” like it was a crime to do that. How many of us are crossing state lines for this tour? I am.
    But in reality he drove 20 miles, to a neighborhood that was his second home. His dad lived there, he had lived there, had a job there.
    He probably lived much closer and had more connections to that town than most people there that night.
    I still think it was a terrible decision for him. I just don’t get the argument of he drove hours and crossed state lines. Half isn’t true, and the other half who cares?
    When I hear that he drove across state line and hours away that it is meant to show that it was all part of a premeditated, organized plan. 
    Yes of course it’s intended to set up a narrative. But half isn’t true and the other half who cares. If you lived a few miles from a state line I’m sure you’d be crossing it all the time. Especially if you had family, friends and work in the other state a few miles away. I just don’t know why that narrative is still being pushed when we know it isn’t true.
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    mace1229 said:
    The Juggler said:
    mace1229 said:
    Parksy said:
    For those Canadians reading....    imagine a political candidate running for Premiere who posts family photos of their kids and spouses all celebrating their guns. 

    What is considered 'normal' in America.... is right fucked up in Canada when it comes to guns. I remember watching the Rittenhouse scenario just floored... absolutely floored that a kid was running around with a rifle and it was like "Yeah, this... this is pretty normal."  Cops roll up....  "super, super normal"
    I don’t think the typical person thought that was normal. Nothing about those events were really normal. People setting fires to cars and buildings without any fear of prosecution. Looting and robbing stores in the open. A kid running around with a gun was just adding to what most people thought was crazy.
    Said kid, who travelled a couple hours to that nonsense, shoots 3 people, kills one, gets off and then is treated as a hero to 45% of the country and gets to meet the disgraced former president at his resort/home. Betcha this Buffalo terrorist also considered Rittenhouse a hero too.  
    The media kept reporting things like “drove hours and crossed state lines” like it was a crime to do that. How many of us are crossing state lines for this tour? I am.
    But in reality he drove 20 miles, to a neighborhood that was his second home. His dad lived there, he had lived there, had a job there.
    He probably lived much closer and had more connections to that town than most people there that night.
    I still think it was a terrible decision for him. I just don’t get the argument of he drove hours and crossed state lines. Half isn’t true, and the other half who cares?
    He drove out of his way, into an incredibly dangerous situation, shot three people and killed one of them. He had no business being there in the first place. Who cares if he drove an hour or two hours? 
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  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,827
    The Juggler said:
    mace1229 said:
    The Juggler said:
    mace1229 said:
    Parksy said:
    For those Canadians reading....    imagine a political candidate running for Premiere who posts family photos of their kids and spouses all celebrating their guns. 

    What is considered 'normal' in America.... is right fucked up in Canada when it comes to guns. I remember watching the Rittenhouse scenario just floored... absolutely floored that a kid was running around with a rifle and it was like "Yeah, this... this is pretty normal."  Cops roll up....  "super, super normal"
    I don’t think the typical person thought that was normal. Nothing about those events were really normal. People setting fires to cars and buildings without any fear of prosecution. Looting and robbing stores in the open. A kid running around with a gun was just adding to what most people thought was crazy.
    Said kid, who travelled a couple hours to that nonsense, shoots 3 people, kills one, gets off and then is treated as a hero to 45% of the country and gets to meet the disgraced former president at his resort/home. Betcha this Buffalo terrorist also considered Rittenhouse a hero too.  
    The media kept reporting things like “drove hours and crossed state lines” like it was a crime to do that. How many of us are crossing state lines for this tour? I am.
    But in reality he drove 20 miles, to a neighborhood that was his second home. His dad lived there, he had lived there, had a job there.
    He probably lived much closer and had more connections to that town than most people there that night.
    I still think it was a terrible decision for him. I just don’t get the argument of he drove hours and crossed state lines. Half isn’t true, and the other half who cares?
    He drove out of his way, into an incredibly dangerous situation, shot three people and killed one of them. He had no business being there in the first place. Who cares if he drove an hour or two hours? 
    I agree with all that. Which is why it makes even less sense to keep pushing the crossing state lines and driving 3 hours, especially when we know it was 20 minutes and not 3 hours.
    When I hear that it comes across to me as pushing the storyline of he was an outsider and was not connected to the community and racist. When in fact it was his community, or at least a community he had close ties to. It doesn’t change the first sentence in your above statement, that is still true.
  • cblock4life
    cblock4life Posts: 1,855
    So where do I get me a poster of the latest boy who traveled to kill others (not too far but a little far….probably with ties to the community at some point of his life….No premeditated motives just bringing his best friend, his assault rifle along for the ride).  I want to hang it next to my hitler and KR posters. 
  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,769
    cblock4life said:
    So where do I get me a poster of the latest boy who traveled to kill others (not too far but a little far….probably with ties to the community at some point of his life….No premeditated motives just bringing his best friend, his assault rifle along for the ride).  I want to hang it next to my hitler and KR posters. 
    You could just print the image of him posing w/ Proud Boys flashing a white power “ok” hand sign. 


  • nicknyr15
    nicknyr15 Posts: 9,218
    How many warnings does it take to look into someone in a serious manner? This kid had red flags all
    over him. 
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,359
    nicknyr15 said:
    How many warnings does it take to look into someone in a serious manner? This kid had red flags all
    over him. 
    Some states have "red flag" laws.  I don't know if where he was from had them or not.
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,380
    tempo_n_groove said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    How many warnings does it take to look into someone in a serious manner? This kid had red flags all
    over him. 
    Some states have "red flag" laws.  I don't know if where he was from had them or not.

    outside of Binghamton......

    So does NYS have such laws?
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