America's Gun Violence #2

The Juggler

KP_McMinn said:

The Juggler said:

KP_McMinn said:

The Juggler said:

"Aside from the usual crazies, like MTG."

Mace--she is the face of the GOP. There is no denying that at this point. She essentially chose the speaker of the house. The former president and frontrunner for the '24 nomination regularly talks about her. 

That "crazy" is the republican party now, like it or not. 

with all do respect, you are wrong here.  We do not claim her as the face of GOP.  The loudest maybe, but not the face/future. 

Sorry bud. She is the face of the party you belong to whether you like it or not. Kevin McCarthy would not be speaker had she not supported him. 

I'm more in the Lauren Boebert corner....but anyone would have been better than pelosi. 

So you like your crazy a tad on the younger side then? Gotcha. 

gimmesometruth27

KP_McMinn said:

Merkin Baller said:

What is leading people to the conclusion that this was a hate crime?

I'm admittedly in the dark about a lot of this story... so far all I've heard is that the shooter is a former student of the school and trans. Has some of the manifesto or intentions / motivations been revealed? 

yes it was a hate crime against Christians. 

The Juggler said:

"Aside from the usual crazies, like MTG."

Mace--she is the face of the GOP. There is no denying that at this point. She essentially chose the speaker of the house. The former president and frontrunner for the '24 nomination regularly talks about her. 

That "crazy" is the republican party now, like it or not. 

with all do respect, you are wrong here.  We do not claim her as the face of GOP.  The loudest maybe, but not the face/future. 

dude, she IS the face of the gop. you guys have to deal with it.

gimmesometruth27

people on twitter are now calling out "hugely popular country stars" that live in nashville for staying silent on this. what they don't realize is you do not get "hugely popular" by saying anything that can potentially keep you from having a song you didn't write go to number 1 on country radio.

mace1229

Halifax2TheMax said:

mace1229 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

You shouldn’t need to read an article or do “research.” Just pay attention over time and know a little bit about current demographics and the differences between a planned, mass shooting and a random outburst of gun violence that gets classified as a mass shooting because of multiple victims (I go by the definition of four or more victims, not including the shooter).

Don't research or look at data, just use my feelings? Okay.

Pay attention to the world around you, okay?

I actually do. I think thats why it annoys me when I see the race card being played. We had a lot of school shootings in Colorado, one reason we moved. We had a school shooting every day the week before Thanksgiving last year, it was incredibly sad. Most wouldnt make the news beyond a brief local evening news then goes away. 
Comments that some others make that I must not care bother me, because I do, its why I didnt respond to that one. I've had a former student get killed in a school shooting the following year after I taught him. I had tears when I learned that. Its hard. 
A lot of those local shootings that dont make national news, aren't all white shooters. Look at the most recent school shooting in national news, the one in Denver from last week, just a few miles from our old house. He doesn't fit the white narrative, I never heard race brought up once. But if its a white shooter, its all some people want to talk about. 
Race doesn't matter. Gun violence is a problem. Its a growing problem in our schools. Lets fix it and not play the race card and blame white people again.

Gern Blansten

mace1229 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

mace1229 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

You shouldn’t need to read an article or do “research.” Just pay attention over time and know a little bit about current demographics and the differences between a planned, mass shooting and a random outburst of gun violence that gets classified as a mass shooting because of multiple victims (I go by the definition of four or more victims, not including the shooter).

Don't research or look at data, just use my feelings? Okay.

Pay attention to the world around you, okay?

I actually do. I think thats why it annoys me when I see the race card being played. We had a lot of school shootings in Colorado, one reason we moved. We had a school shooting every day the week before Thanksgiving last year, it was incredibly sad. Most wouldnt make the news beyond a brief local evening news then goes away. 
Comments that some others make that I must not care bother me, because I do, its why I didnt respond to that one. I've had a former student get killed in a school shooting the following year after I taught him. I had tears when I learned that. Its hard. 
A lot of those local shootings that dont make national news, aren't all white shooters. Look at the most recent school shooting in national news, the one in Denver from last week, just a few miles from our old house. He doesn't fit the white narrative, I never heard race brought up once. But if its a white shooter, its all some people want to talk about. 
Race doesn't matter. Gun violence is a problem. Its a growing problem in our schools. Lets fix it and not play the race card and blame white people again.

But white people are the problem. It isn't minority GOP that keep gun legislation from happening. It's whitey.

gimmesometruth27

when i hear a mass shooting happens, i immediately picture a disgruntled white male, 20s or 30s, probably an incel,  with metal rim glasses and a strange haircut. most mass shooters fit that description.

KP_McMinn

Gern Blansten said:

mace1229 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

mace1229 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

You shouldn’t need to read an article or do “research.” Just pay attention over time and know a little bit about current demographics and the differences between a planned, mass shooting and a random outburst of gun violence that gets classified as a mass shooting because of multiple victims (I go by the definition of four or more victims, not including the shooter).

Don't research or look at data, just use my feelings? Okay.

Pay attention to the world around you, okay?

I actually do. I think thats why it annoys me when I see the race card being played. We had a lot of school shootings in Colorado, one reason we moved. We had a school shooting every day the week before Thanksgiving last year, it was incredibly sad. Most wouldnt make the news beyond a brief local evening news then goes away. 
Comments that some others make that I must not care bother me, because I do, its why I didnt respond to that one. I've had a former student get killed in a school shooting the following year after I taught him. I had tears when I learned that. Its hard. 
A lot of those local shootings that dont make national news, aren't all white shooters. Look at the most recent school shooting in national news, the one in Denver from last week, just a few miles from our old house. He doesn't fit the white narrative, I never heard race brought up once. But if its a white shooter, its all some people want to talk about. 
Race doesn't matter. Gun violence is a problem. Its a growing problem in our schools. Lets fix it and not play the race card and blame white people again.

But white people are the problem. It isn't minority GOP that keep gun legislation from happening. It's whitey.

the white guilt is deeeeep with this one.  He cannot touch the bottom, he is in too deeeeep.  Good god, man....

Gern Blansten

KP_McMinn said:

Gern Blansten said:

mace1229 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

mace1229 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

You shouldn’t need to read an article or do “research.” Just pay attention over time and know a little bit about current demographics and the differences between a planned, mass shooting and a random outburst of gun violence that gets classified as a mass shooting because of multiple victims (I go by the definition of four or more victims, not including the shooter).

Don't research or look at data, just use my feelings? Okay.

Pay attention to the world around you, okay?

I actually do. I think thats why it annoys me when I see the race card being played. We had a lot of school shootings in Colorado, one reason we moved. We had a school shooting every day the week before Thanksgiving last year, it was incredibly sad. Most wouldnt make the news beyond a brief local evening news then goes away. 
Comments that some others make that I must not care bother me, because I do, its why I didnt respond to that one. I've had a former student get killed in a school shooting the following year after I taught him. I had tears when I learned that. Its hard. 
A lot of those local shootings that dont make national news, aren't all white shooters. Look at the most recent school shooting in national news, the one in Denver from last week, just a few miles from our old house. He doesn't fit the white narrative, I never heard race brought up once. But if its a white shooter, its all some people want to talk about. 
Race doesn't matter. Gun violence is a problem. Its a growing problem in our schools. Lets fix it and not play the race card and blame white people again.

But white people are the problem. It isn't minority GOP that keep gun legislation from happening. It's whitey.

the white guilt is deeeeep with this one.  He cannot touch the bottom, he is in too deeeeep.  Good god, man....

Yeah if minorities were stockpiling AR-15s and blocking gun legislation you would be pooping your thong

Bentleyspop

Gern Blansten said:

KP_McMinn said:

Gern Blansten said:

mace1229 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

mace1229 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

You shouldn’t need to read an article or do “research.” Just pay attention over time and know a little bit about current demographics and the differences between a planned, mass shooting and a random outburst of gun violence that gets classified as a mass shooting because of multiple victims (I go by the definition of four or more victims, not including the shooter).

Don't research or look at data, just use my feelings? Okay.

Pay attention to the world around you, okay?

I actually do. I think thats why it annoys me when I see the race card being played. We had a lot of school shootings in Colorado, one reason we moved. We had a school shooting every day the week before Thanksgiving last year, it was incredibly sad. Most wouldnt make the news beyond a brief local evening news then goes away. 
Comments that some others make that I must not care bother me, because I do, its why I didnt respond to that one. I've had a former student get killed in a school shooting the following year after I taught him. I had tears when I learned that. Its hard. 
A lot of those local shootings that dont make national news, aren't all white shooters. Look at the most recent school shooting in national news, the one in Denver from last week, just a few miles from our old house. He doesn't fit the white narrative, I never heard race brought up once. But if its a white shooter, its all some people want to talk about. 
Race doesn't matter. Gun violence is a problem. Its a growing problem in our schools. Lets fix it and not play the race card and blame white people again.

But white people are the problem. It isn't minority GOP that keep gun legislation from happening. It's whitey.

the white guilt is deeeeep with this one.  He cannot touch the bottom, he is in too deeeeep.  Good god, man....

Yeah if minorities were stockpiling AR-15s and blocking gun legislation you would be pooping your thong

White males who claim to be "christian " are fine but everyone else HELL NO!

Kat

The topic is extremely difficult but the discussion should be calm and respectful. Closing this for a bit for cool heads to prevail. Thanks.

Gern Blansten

https://twitter.com/shannonrwatts/status/1640707710625939456

OnWis97

Gern Blansten said:

KP_McMinn said:

Gern Blansten said:

mace1229 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

mace1229 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

You shouldn’t need to read an article or do “research.” Just pay attention over time and know a little bit about current demographics and the differences between a planned, mass shooting and a random outburst of gun violence that gets classified as a mass shooting because of multiple victims (I go by the definition of four or more victims, not including the shooter).

Don't research or look at data, just use my feelings? Okay.

Pay attention to the world around you, okay?

I actually do. I think thats why it annoys me when I see the race card being played. We had a lot of school shootings in Colorado, one reason we moved. We had a school shooting every day the week before Thanksgiving last year, it was incredibly sad. Most wouldnt make the news beyond a brief local evening news then goes away. 
Comments that some others make that I must not care bother me, because I do, its why I didnt respond to that one. I've had a former student get killed in a school shooting the following year after I taught him. I had tears when I learned that. Its hard. 
A lot of those local shootings that dont make national news, aren't all white shooters. Look at the most recent school shooting in national news, the one in Denver from last week, just a few miles from our old house. He doesn't fit the white narrative, I never heard race brought up once. But if its a white shooter, its all some people want to talk about. 
Race doesn't matter. Gun violence is a problem. Its a growing problem in our schools. Lets fix it and not play the race card and blame white people again.

But white people are the problem. It isn't minority GOP that keep gun legislation from happening. It's whitey.

the white guilt is deeeeep with this one.  He cannot touch the bottom, he is in too deeeeep.  Good god, man....

Yeah if minorities were stockpiling AR-15s and blocking gun legislation you would be pooping your thong

As evidenced by Saint Ronald.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mulford_Act

Halifax2TheMax

OnWis97 said:

Gern Blansten said:

KP_McMinn said:

Gern Blansten said:

mace1229 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

mace1229 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

You shouldn’t need to read an article or do “research.” Just pay attention over time and know a little bit about current demographics and the differences between a planned, mass shooting and a random outburst of gun violence that gets classified as a mass shooting because of multiple victims (I go by the definition of four or more victims, not including the shooter).

Don't research or look at data, just use my feelings? Okay.

Pay attention to the world around you, okay?

I actually do. I think thats why it annoys me when I see the race card being played. We had a lot of school shootings in Colorado, one reason we moved. We had a school shooting every day the week before Thanksgiving last year, it was incredibly sad. Most wouldnt make the news beyond a brief local evening news then goes away. 
Comments that some others make that I must not care bother me, because I do, its why I didnt respond to that one. I've had a former student get killed in a school shooting the following year after I taught him. I had tears when I learned that. Its hard. 
A lot of those local shootings that dont make national news, aren't all white shooters. Look at the most recent school shooting in national news, the one in Denver from last week, just a few miles from our old house. He doesn't fit the white narrative, I never heard race brought up once. But if its a white shooter, its all some people want to talk about. 
Race doesn't matter. Gun violence is a problem. Its a growing problem in our schools. Lets fix it and not play the race card and blame white people again.

But white people are the problem. It isn't minority GOP that keep gun legislation from happening. It's whitey.

the white guilt is deeeeep with this one.  He cannot touch the bottom, he is in too deeeeep.  Good god, man....

Yeah if minorities were stockpiling AR-15s and blocking gun legislation you would be pooping your thong

As evidenced by Saint Ronald.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mulford_Act

But race doesn’t matter, eh?

cblock4life

This, all of it, feels like we’re in a video game like the “last of us” because this can’t be real

1:52 p.m. ET, March 28, 2023

Shooter purchased 7 guns legally in Nashville, and 3 of them were used in the shooting

tempo_n_groove

OnWis97 said:

Gern Blansten said:

KP_McMinn said:

Gern Blansten said:

mace1229 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

mace1229 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

You shouldn’t need to read an article or do “research.” Just pay attention over time and know a little bit about current demographics and the differences between a planned, mass shooting and a random outburst of gun violence that gets classified as a mass shooting because of multiple victims (I go by the definition of four or more victims, not including the shooter).

Don't research or look at data, just use my feelings? Okay.

Pay attention to the world around you, okay?

I actually do. I think thats why it annoys me when I see the race card being played. We had a lot of school shootings in Colorado, one reason we moved. We had a school shooting every day the week before Thanksgiving last year, it was incredibly sad. Most wouldnt make the news beyond a brief local evening news then goes away. 
Comments that some others make that I must not care bother me, because I do, its why I didnt respond to that one. I've had a former student get killed in a school shooting the following year after I taught him. I had tears when I learned that. Its hard. 
A lot of those local shootings that dont make national news, aren't all white shooters. Look at the most recent school shooting in national news, the one in Denver from last week, just a few miles from our old house. He doesn't fit the white narrative, I never heard race brought up once. But if its a white shooter, its all some people want to talk about. 
Race doesn't matter. Gun violence is a problem. Its a growing problem in our schools. Lets fix it and not play the race card and blame white people again.

But white people are the problem. It isn't minority GOP that keep gun legislation from happening. It's whitey.

the white guilt is deeeeep with this one.  He cannot touch the bottom, he is in too deeeeep.  Good god, man....

Yeah if minorities were stockpiling AR-15s and blocking gun legislation you would be pooping your thong

As evidenced by Saint Ronald.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mulford_Act

Halifax2TheMax said:

OnWis97 said:

Gern Blansten said:

KP_McMinn said:

Gern Blansten said:

mace1229 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

mace1229 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

You shouldn’t need to read an article or do “research.” Just pay attention over time and know a little bit about current demographics and the differences between a planned, mass shooting and a random outburst of gun violence that gets classified as a mass shooting because of multiple victims (I go by the definition of four or more victims, not including the shooter).

Don't research or look at data, just use my feelings? Okay.

Pay attention to the world around you, okay?

I actually do. I think thats why it annoys me when I see the race card being played. We had a lot of school shootings in Colorado, one reason we moved. We had a school shooting every day the week before Thanksgiving last year, it was incredibly sad. Most wouldnt make the news beyond a brief local evening news then goes away. 
Comments that some others make that I must not care bother me, because I do, its why I didnt respond to that one. I've had a former student get killed in a school shooting the following year after I taught him. I had tears when I learned that. Its hard. 
A lot of those local shootings that dont make national news, aren't all white shooters. Look at the most recent school shooting in national news, the one in Denver from last week, just a few miles from our old house. He doesn't fit the white narrative, I never heard race brought up once. But if its a white shooter, its all some people want to talk about. 
Race doesn't matter. Gun violence is a problem. Its a growing problem in our schools. Lets fix it and not play the race card and blame white people again.

But white people are the problem. It isn't minority GOP that keep gun legislation from happening. It's whitey.

the white guilt is deeeeep with this one.  He cannot touch the bottom, he is in too deeeeep.  Good god, man....

Yeah if minorities were stockpiling AR-15s and blocking gun legislation you would be pooping your thong

As evidenced by Saint Ronald.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mulford_Act

But race doesn’t matter, eh?

Reagan signed the Mulford act to specifically target the black panthers whom were open carrying.  

cblock4life

Seriously how many fucking guns do you people need?  Mental issues but legally owning 7 guns…..this is madness people.  Even if you’re pro gun you have to admit this is totally fucked up.  

Halifax2TheMax

tempo_n_groove said:

OnWis97 said:

Gern Blansten said:

KP_McMinn said:

Gern Blansten said:

mace1229 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

mace1229 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

You shouldn’t need to read an article or do “research.” Just pay attention over time and know a little bit about current demographics and the differences between a planned, mass shooting and a random outburst of gun violence that gets classified as a mass shooting because of multiple victims (I go by the definition of four or more victims, not including the shooter).

Don't research or look at data, just use my feelings? Okay.

Pay attention to the world around you, okay?

I actually do. I think thats why it annoys me when I see the race card being played. We had a lot of school shootings in Colorado, one reason we moved. We had a school shooting every day the week before Thanksgiving last year, it was incredibly sad. Most wouldnt make the news beyond a brief local evening news then goes away. 
Comments that some others make that I must not care bother me, because I do, its why I didnt respond to that one. I've had a former student get killed in a school shooting the following year after I taught him. I had tears when I learned that. Its hard. 
A lot of those local shootings that dont make national news, aren't all white shooters. Look at the most recent school shooting in national news, the one in Denver from last week, just a few miles from our old house. He doesn't fit the white narrative, I never heard race brought up once. But if its a white shooter, its all some people want to talk about. 
Race doesn't matter. Gun violence is a problem. Its a growing problem in our schools. Lets fix it and not play the race card and blame white people again.

But white people are the problem. It isn't minority GOP that keep gun legislation from happening. It's whitey.

the white guilt is deeeeep with this one.  He cannot touch the bottom, he is in too deeeeep.  Good god, man....

Yeah if minorities were stockpiling AR-15s and blocking gun legislation you would be pooping your thong

As evidenced by Saint Ronald.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mulford_Act

Halifax2TheMax said:

OnWis97 said:

Gern Blansten said:

KP_McMinn said:

Gern Blansten said:

mace1229 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

mace1229 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

You shouldn’t need to read an article or do “research.” Just pay attention over time and know a little bit about current demographics and the differences between a planned, mass shooting and a random outburst of gun violence that gets classified as a mass shooting because of multiple victims (I go by the definition of four or more victims, not including the shooter).

Don't research or look at data, just use my feelings? Okay.

Pay attention to the world around you, okay?

I actually do. I think thats why it annoys me when I see the race card being played. We had a lot of school shootings in Colorado, one reason we moved. We had a school shooting every day the week before Thanksgiving last year, it was incredibly sad. Most wouldnt make the news beyond a brief local evening news then goes away. 
Comments that some others make that I must not care bother me, because I do, its why I didnt respond to that one. I've had a former student get killed in a school shooting the following year after I taught him. I had tears when I learned that. Its hard. 
A lot of those local shootings that dont make national news, aren't all white shooters. Look at the most recent school shooting in national news, the one in Denver from last week, just a few miles from our old house. He doesn't fit the white narrative, I never heard race brought up once. But if its a white shooter, its all some people want to talk about. 
Race doesn't matter. Gun violence is a problem. Its a growing problem in our schools. Lets fix it and not play the race card and blame white people again.

But white people are the problem. It isn't minority GOP that keep gun legislation from happening. It's whitey.

the white guilt is deeeeep with this one.  He cannot touch the bottom, he is in too deeeeep.  Good god, man....

Yeah if minorities were stockpiling AR-15s and blocking gun legislation you would be pooping your thong

As evidenced by Saint Ronald.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mulford_Act

But race doesn’t matter, eh?

Reagan signed the Mulford act to specifically target the black panthers whom were open carrying.  

So, does race matter or not? Mace told us in the context of mass shootings, school shootings or shootings in general, I’m not really sure, it doesn’t matter. Does it?

Halifax2TheMax

cblock4life said:

Seriously how many fucking guns do you people need?  Mental issues but legally owning 7 guns…..this is madness people.  Even if you’re pro gun you have to admit this is totally fucked up.  

Kitchen
Living Room
Dining Room
Den
Master Bedroom
Bedroom
Bedroom
Basement
Bathroom, up
Bathroom, down
Garage
Car
Shed
On person

Clearly, 7 is not enough.

cblock4life

Halifax2TheMax said:

cblock4life said:

Seriously how many fucking guns do you people need?  Mental issues but legally owning 7 guns…..this is madness people.  Even if you’re pro gun you have to admit this is totally fucked up.  

Kitchen
Living Room
Dining Room
Den
Master Bedroom
Bedroom
Bedroom
Basement
Bathroom, up
Bathroom, down
Garage
Car
Shed
On person

Clearly, 7 is not enough.

Damn, I only keep spare reading glasses in every room. 

Halifax2TheMax

cblock4life said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

cblock4life said:

Seriously how many fucking guns do you people need?  Mental issues but legally owning 7 guns…..this is madness people.  Even if you’re pro gun you have to admit this is totally fucked up.  

Kitchen
Living Room
Dining Room
Den
Master Bedroom
Bedroom
Bedroom
Basement
Bathroom, up
Bathroom, down
Garage
Car
Shed
On person

Clearly, 7 is not enough.

Damn, I only keep spare reading glasses in every room. 

Imagine where you forgot you placed your gun in that easy to reach and accessible hiding spot? But that's why you can just go out and buy more. Like glasses at CVS or Wally Mart.