America's Gun Violence #2

Halifax2TheMax

tempo_n_groove said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Just another dog whistle, like Ronny Rayguns’ campaign announcement. Nothing new.

I've never read he was a racist ever.

He did a collab w Ludacris.  I guess that was a front then judging by this song?

Nevermind. Great album.

mace1229

Merkin Baller said:

mace1229 said:

Merkin Baller said:

Ignorance is bliss. 

What is ignorant? Not knowing what happened in a small building in a small town you’ve never been to 100 years ago? 

I have no opinion about Aldean or his music because I know nothing about either (other than I don’t care for it), but being upset over the location of the video because of something that appended 100 years ago seems like people just want to be upset.

Did you read up on this before taking your stance? 

Specifically the lyrics to the song, and the story of the lynching at that location? if you did, and you still dismiss this as "people just want to be upset", then yeah... I would say that's ignorance. 

I was responding to the tweet that was complaining about the location of the video. So yeah, if you’re upset because of what happened 100 years ago at the location of a music video shoot, you just want to be upset.
I doubt he or anyone involved has been to that town before and we’re aware of the history. If they sought out a location with history that would be one thing. But to dig up something that happened 100 years ago that isn’t well known, that’s different. 

mickeyrat

mace1229 said:

Merkin Baller said:

mace1229 said:

Merkin Baller said:

Ignorance is bliss. 

What is ignorant? Not knowing what happened in a small building in a small town you’ve never been to 100 years ago? 

I have no opinion about Aldean or his music because I know nothing about either (other than I don’t care for it), but being upset over the location of the video because of something that appended 100 years ago seems like people just want to be upset.

Did you read up on this before taking your stance? 

Specifically the lyrics to the song, and the story of the lynching at that location? if you did, and you still dismiss this as "people just want to be upset", then yeah... I would say that's ignorance. 

I was responding to the tweet that was complaining about the location of the video. So yeah, if you’re upset because of what happened 100 years ago at the location of a music video shoot, you just want to be upset.
I doubt he or anyone involved has been to that town before and we’re aware of the history. If they sought out a location with history that would be one thing. But to dig up something that happened 100 years ago that isn’t well known, that’s different. 

"try that in a small town" filmed at the site of a lynching IN A SMALL TOWN>>>>>>>>> dog whistle references to vigilantism in every stanza. but do go ahead and double down. its on brand.

Merkin Baller

mace1229 said:

Merkin Baller said:

mace1229 said:

Merkin Baller said:

Ignorance is bliss. 

What is ignorant? Not knowing what happened in a small building in a small town you’ve never been to 100 years ago? 

I have no opinion about Aldean or his music because I know nothing about either (other than I don’t care for it), but being upset over the location of the video because of something that appended 100 years ago seems like people just want to be upset.

Did you read up on this before taking your stance? 

Specifically the lyrics to the song, and the story of the lynching at that location? if you did, and you still dismiss this as "people just want to be upset", then yeah... I would say that's ignorance. 

I was responding to the tweet that was complaining about the location of the video. So yeah, if you’re upset because of what happened 100 years ago at the location of a music video shoot, you just want to be upset.
I doubt he or anyone involved has been to that town before and we’re aware of the history. If they sought out a location with history that would be one thing. But to dig up something that happened 100 years ago that isn’t well known, that’s different. 

I can accept that they may not have known the history of the location, I sure as hell didn't. But after hearing about the controversy, I took the opportunity to read up on it and learn something. Having done so, I get the reaction, and no. it's not all people who just want to be upset.

Have you read up on the lynching that took place there? Are you familiar with the history of sundown towns? 

If not, I suggest you do, and then reread the lyrics to the song. Anyone with an open mind and modicum of empathy should be able to understand the reaction. 

Gern Blansten

https://www.billboard.com/music/country/jason-aldean-try-that-in-a-small-town-video-pulled-cmt-1235373842/

lol...CMT pulled his video.

how woke is that?

Merkin Baller

Gern Blansten said:

https://www.billboard.com/music/country/jason-aldean-try-that-in-a-small-town-video-pulled-cmt-1235373842/

lol...CMT pulled his video.

how woke is that?

Aldean doubled down on it all too, which is his right. 

Like I said, ignorance is bliss. 

mace1229

This is the entire tweet that was shared that I responded to:

“Jason Aldean shot this at the site where a white lynch mob strung Henry Choate up at the Maury County Courthouse in Columbia, Tenn., after dragging his body through the streets with a car in 1927. That's where Aldean chose to sing about murdering people who don't respect police.”

Followed by Jason’s own tweet:

When u grow up in a small town, it’s that unspoken rule of “we all have each other’s backs and we look out for each other.” It feels like somewhere along the way, that sense of community and respect has gotten lost. Deep down we are all ready to get back to that. I hope my new music video helps y’all know that u are not alone in feeling that way.

The focus of the tweet was about the location of the video. 

Before responding I did read what happened in 1927. It was incredibly sad. There wasn’t a ton of info on it. It is also a small town and a not well known event.  I am sure they scouted for a southern looking court house that would give them a permit to film for cheap, no one knew the history. I’m willing to bet most residents of that town probably don’t. So why bring up the decision to shoot the video there? The location of the video is a non issue for me.
I also read the lyrics of the songs. Seems like a pretty dumb song. Jason’s tweet doesn’t say anything about murdering. His lyrics are vague. Basically just says you can’t get away with that in a small town. You want to call that racist and promoting murder, fine, but seems like a stretch to me. I don’t. I don’t give it much thought other than hoping I never hear it.

tempo_n_groove

Gern Blansten said:

https://www.billboard.com/music/country/jason-aldean-try-that-in-a-small-town-video-pulled-cmt-1235373842/

lol...CMT pulled his video.

how woke is that?

It's only going to make it bigger.

It;s amazing that if you live a type of way and sing about it and if you aren't used to that way of living that it is a "dog whistle" and racist.

Sucker punch somebody on a sidewalk
Carjack an old lady at a red light
Pull a gun on the owner of a liquor store
Ya think it's cool, well, act a fool if ya like

I would hope that we are all against the things he was talking about?

mace1229

tempo_n_groove said:

Gern Blansten said:

https://www.billboard.com/music/country/jason-aldean-try-that-in-a-small-town-video-pulled-cmt-1235373842/

lol...CMT pulled his video.

how woke is that?

It's only going to make it bigger.

It;s amazing that if you live a type of way and sing about it and if you aren't used to that way of living that it is a "dog whistle" and racist.

Sucker punch somebody on a sidewalk
Carjack an old lady at a red light
Pull a gun on the owner of a liquor store
Ya think it's cool, well, act a fool if ya like

I would hope that we are all against the things he was talking about?

I don’t think that’s the part anyone has issues with.

it’s lines like:
”Cuss out a cop, spit in his face

Stomp on the flag and light it up
Yeah, ya think you're tough

Well, try that in a small town
See how far ya make it down the road
Around here, we take care of our own”

and

“Full of good ol' boys, raised up right

If you're looking for a fight
Try that in a small town”

That are making people say it promotes vigilantism. To say he’s calling for murder for disrespecting police is a big stretch, which I’ve seen on a lot of the comments.

I read the lyrics and think a small town doesn’t do that to itself. They wont burn each other’s stores down in “protest.” I don’t see a call for murder.

Merkin Baller

Ignorance is bliss.

tempo_n_groove

mace1229 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Gern Blansten said:

https://www.billboard.com/music/country/jason-aldean-try-that-in-a-small-town-video-pulled-cmt-1235373842/

lol...CMT pulled his video.

how woke is that?

It's only going to make it bigger.

It;s amazing that if you live a type of way and sing about it and if you aren't used to that way of living that it is a "dog whistle" and racist.

Sucker punch somebody on a sidewalk
Carjack an old lady at a red light
Pull a gun on the owner of a liquor store
Ya think it's cool, well, act a fool if ya like

I would hope that we are all against the things he was talking about?

I don’t think that’s the part anyone has issues with.

it’s lines like:
”Cuss out a cop, spit in his face

Stomp on the flag and light it up
Yeah, ya think you're tough

Well, try that in a small town
See how far ya make it down the road
Around here, we take care of our own”

and

“Full of good ol' boys, raised up right

If you're looking for a fight
Try that in a small town”

That are making people say it promotes vigilantism. To say he’s calling for murder for disrespecting police is a big stretch, which I’ve seen on a lot of the comments.

I read the lyrics and think a small town doesn’t do that to itself. They wont burn each other’s stores down in “protest.” I don’t see a call for murder.

Murder?  Where does it say murder?  Dear lord people stretch for things.

I'm sure Good ol' boys and Raised right stirred up some shit too.

tempo_n_groove

Merkin Baller said:

Ignorance is bliss.

Every time a president speaks somewhere I'm going to bring up an incident that happened there or what a previous president from 100 years ago said because I don't want people to be ignorant of the history of that area.

mickeyrat

tempo_n_groove said:

Merkin Baller said:

Ignorance is bliss.

Every time a president speaks somewhere I'm going to bring up an incident that happened there or what a previous president from 100 years ago said because I don't want people to be ignorant of the history of that area.

the chorus

Well, try that in a small town See how far ya make it down the road Around here, we take care of our own You cross that line, it won't take long For you to find out, I recommend you don't Try that in a small town

and good ole boys would refer to klan and like minded folks.

ask the random black stranger what they hear when you say good ole boy.....

Merkin Baller

tempo_n_groove said:

Merkin Baller said:

Ignorance is bliss.

Every time a president speaks somewhere I'm going to bring up an incident that happened there or what a previous president from 100 years ago said because I don't want people to be ignorant of the history of that area.

You're missing my point, Chris. 

I can accept they didn't know in advance about the location of the video... doubling down on it after learning the history of what happened though is the ignorance I'm talking about. If someone doesn't care about the history of lynchings or sundown towns in this country, fine, that person simply doesn't care. But that doesn't mean the reactions or people calling it out as being shitty and tone deaf are unreasonable. 

How does the saying go about those who refuse to learn from history? 

tempo_n_groove

mickeyrat said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Merkin Baller said:

Ignorance is bliss.

Every time a president speaks somewhere I'm going to bring up an incident that happened there or what a previous president from 100 years ago said because I don't want people to be ignorant of the history of that area.

the chorus

Well, try that in a small town See how far ya make it down the road Around here, we take care of our own You cross that line, it won't take long For you to find out, I recommend you don't Try that in a small town

and good ole boys would refer to klan and like minded folks.

ask the random black stranger what they hear when you say good ole boy.....

In my previous quote I mentioned Good ol Boys.  It's another term that you can't use anymore like Woke or Groomed.  They take on a different meaning to people sometimes.

DO I think he was referring to the klan?  Yeah, about as much as the Dukes of Hazzard did.

I see the song as "don't be an asshole".  I know it's hard for people to go grasp that but, that is what it's saying in another language that others don't speak.  "Rural".

nicknyr15

Strictly commenting on the “lyrics” thing. Really? We’re offended by song lyrics now? Anyone ever listen to rap? 

Merkin Baller

nicknyr15 said:

Strictly commenting on the “lyrics” thing. Really? We’re offended by song lyrics now? Anyone ever listen to rap? 

I understood the controversy to be over the combination of the lyrics and the historical significance of the location for the video shoot. 

Maybe I misread the whole thing... I couldn't give a hobo's crap about the lyrics on their own. 

nicknyr15

Merkin Baller said:

nicknyr15 said:

Strictly commenting on the “lyrics” thing. Really? We’re offended by song lyrics now? Anyone ever listen to rap? 

I understood the controversy to be over the combination of the lyrics and the historical significance of the location for the video shoot. 

Maybe I misread the whole thing... I couldn't give a hobo's crap about the lyrics on their own. 

Yea im not commenting on anything other than lyrics. I don’t  know or care enough about the situation to comment on anything else. 

A hobos crap 😂😂😂😂 that’s awesome. I’m stealing that. 

gimmesometruth27

mace1229 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Gern Blansten said:

https://www.billboard.com/music/country/jason-aldean-try-that-in-a-small-town-video-pulled-cmt-1235373842/

lol...CMT pulled his video.

how woke is that?

It's only going to make it bigger.

It;s amazing that if you live a type of way and sing about it and if you aren't used to that way of living that it is a "dog whistle" and racist.

Sucker punch somebody on a sidewalk
Carjack an old lady at a red light
Pull a gun on the owner of a liquor store
Ya think it's cool, well, act a fool if ya like

I would hope that we are all against the things he was talking about?

I don’t think that’s the part anyone has issues with.

it’s lines like:
”Cuss out a cop, spit in his face

Stomp on the flag and light it up
Yeah, ya think you're tough

Well, try that in a small town
See how far ya make it down the road
Around here, we take care of our own”

and

“Full of good ol' boys, raised up right

If you're looking for a fight
Try that in a small town”

That are making people say it promotes vigilantism. To say he’s calling for murder for disrespecting police is a big stretch, which I’ve seen on a lot of the comments.

I read the lyrics and think a small town doesn’t do that to itself. They wont burn each other’s stores down in “protest.” I don’t see a call for murder.

the irony here is that in the small towns the hospitals i work at serve, literally none of the stuff in that song happens. none of it.

there are more blue lives matter bumper stickers in these parking lots than any other kind.

Merkin Baller

nicknyr15 said:

Merkin Baller said:

nicknyr15 said:

Strictly commenting on the “lyrics” thing. Really? We’re offended by song lyrics now? Anyone ever listen to rap? 

I understood the controversy to be over the combination of the lyrics and the historical significance of the location for the video shoot. 

Maybe I misread the whole thing... I couldn't give a hobo's crap about the lyrics on their own. 

Yea im not commenting on anything other than lyrics. I don’t  know or care enough about the situation to comment on anything else. 

A hobos crap 😂😂😂😂 that’s awesome. I’m stealing that. 

Simpsons, FTW