They should've revamped DOTC to sound less sterile live. It makes the album hit a brickwall when it comes and sounds off live with the rest of the songs. I think it will sound off wherever in the set it comes though. (to clarify: not saying anything about the quality of the song.
But I respect them opening with it and not play into the hands of the "mainstream" part of the crowd. The less "swinging on lamps" and "bring us your babies and we hang a tambourone around their neck" the better.
But if not "Can't Keep" then they should have opened with Quick Escape. Whether he admits it or not, that would have had McGruff up and dancing.
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I was impressed they played 6 new songs at festival and it gave me a pretty good head start on seeing the whole album live. I think I’m easy to please though as a fan. I would have been happy with whatever they chose to play after such a long layoff.
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I was impressed they played 6 new songs at festival and it gave me a pretty good head start on seeing the whole album live. I think I’m easy to please though as a fan. I would have been happy with whatever they chose to play after such a long layoff.
Song-checkbox-checkers... you can't live with them, you can't be in a Pearl Jam crowd without them (looking down app-gazing).
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I was impressed they played 6 new songs at festival and it gave me a pretty good head start on seeing the whole album live. I think I’m easy to please though as a fan. I would have been happy with whatever they chose to play after such a long layoff.
Song-checkbox-checkers... you can't live with them, you can't be in a Pearl Jam crowd without them (looking down app-gazing).
At this point I’ve seen a ton of rarities. Hearing new songs is the new white whale.
1996: Randall's Island 2 1998: East Rutherford | MSG 1 & 2 2000: Cincinnati | Columbus | Jones Beach 1, 2, & 3 | Boston 1 | Camden 1 & 2 2003: Philadelphia | Uniondale | MSG 1 & 2 | Holmdel 2005: Atlantic City 1 2006: Camden 1 | East Rutherford 1 & 2 2008: Camden 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 | Newark (EV) 2009: Philadelphia 1, 2 & 4 2010: Newark | MSG 1 & 2 2011: Toronto 1 2013: Wrigley Field | Brooklyn 2 | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore 2015: Central Park 2016: Philadelphia 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 | Fenway Park 2 | MSG (TOTD) 2017: Brooklyn (RnR HOF) 2020: MSG | Asbury Park2021: Asbury Park 2022: MSG | Camden | Nashville 2024: MSG 1 & 2 (#50) | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore
I was impressed they played 6 new songs at festival and it gave me a pretty good head start on seeing the whole album live. I think I’m easy to please though as a fan. I would have been happy with whatever they chose to play after such a long layoff.
Song-checkbox-checkers... you can't live with them, you can't be in a Pearl Jam crowd without them (looking down app-gazing).
At this point I’ve seen a ton of rarities. Hearing new songs is the new white whale.
buckle up is going to be a tough one to get.
where were you standing last night? I was to the right of the sound stage pretty much next to the snow fence along the ocean. I'm guessing about 100 yards away from the stage.
Nope....Gigaton is the weakest album and live versions are still versions of mediocre songs. There are a few good ones, but overall a dud in my book. I've been here for the entire ride so I know how great their catalogue of songs are, and none of these are in the top half. If you enjoy Gigaton, all the power to you. I am disappointed at the setlist given it's their first show in years and Gigaton is a year and a half old.
To each their own, but DOTC and Quick Escape are in my top 10 or 15 PJ songs. With a few others not far behind. Easily my favorite since Binaural (Avocado might be close).
And yeah, to think they weren’t going to be playing Gigaton songs because it came out a year and a half ago is a head scratcher. If anything the circumstances would suggest that they would be even more eager to play them.
I was impressed they played 6 new songs at festival and it gave me a pretty good head start on seeing the whole album live. I think I’m easy to please though as a fan. I would have been happy with whatever they chose to play after such a long layoff.
Song-checkbox-checkers... you can't live with them, you can't be in a Pearl Jam crowd without them (looking down app-gazing).
Too bad retrograde and river cross were ax’ed!
I think everyone but Ohana 4x attendees might have trouble completing Gigaton
I was impressed they played 6 new songs at festival and it gave me a pretty good head start on seeing the whole album live. I think I’m easy to please though as a fan. I would have been happy with whatever they chose to play after such a long layoff.
Song-checkbox-checkers... you can't live with them, you can't be in a Pearl Jam crowd without them (looking down app-gazing).
At this point I’ve seen a ton of rarities. Hearing new songs is the new white whale.
buckle up is going to be a tough one to get.
where were you standing last night? I was to the right of the sound stage pretty much next to the snow fence along the ocean. I'm guessing about 100 yards away from the stage.
I’m thinking once they tour next year most of these will come off the board quick if you go to a few shows in a row. But there will always be that one song you miss… like buckle up. 😁
We were in that same general area but more towards the middle than the snow fence. We moved up from where we were originally because the volume really tailed off exponentially the further away you got.
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I should probably go back and listen to Gigaton. I haven't listened to it since it released. I can't even really remember what the songs sound like that y'all are talking about.
I should probably go back and listen to Gigaton. I haven't listened to it since it released. I can't even really remember what the songs sound like that y'all are talking about.
Nope....Gigaton is the weakest album and live versions are still versions of mediocre songs. There are a few good ones, but overall a dud in my book. I've been here for the entire ride so I know how great their catalogue of songs are, and none of these are in the top half. If you enjoy Gigaton, all the power to you. I am disappointed at the setlist given it's their first show in years and Gigaton is a year and a half old.
Debbie downer man. You would complain if you won the lottery I bet. Ur post is a dud in my book. Do you like anything? What’s ur book look like? Does ur book have Pictures ?
Nope....Gigaton is the weakest album and live versions are still versions of mediocre songs. There are a few good ones, but overall a dud in my book. I've been here for the entire ride so I know how great their catalogue of songs are, and none of these are in the top half. If you enjoy Gigaton, all the power to you. I am disappointed at the setlist given it's their first show in years and Gigaton is a year and a half old.
Debbie downer man. You would complain if you won the lottery I bet. Ur post is a dud in my book. Do you like anything? What’s ur book look like? Does ur book have Pictures ?
A year and a half later and you still can’t accept that not everyone likes Gigaton.
Nope....Gigaton is the weakest album and live versions are still versions of mediocre songs. There are a few good ones, but overall a dud in my book. I've been here for the entire ride so I know how great their catalogue of songs are, and none of these are in the top half. If you enjoy Gigaton, all the power to you. I am disappointed at the setlist given it's their first show in years and Gigaton is a year and a half old.
Debbie downer man. You would complain if you won the lottery I bet. Ur post is a dud in my book. Do you like anything? What’s ur book look like? Does ur book have Pictures ?
A year and a half later and you still can’t accept that not everyone likes Gigaton.
Lol. There’s a difference between not liking something and showing up to a thread to intentionally be a downer. Saying that the band shouldn’t want to play those songs because the album is a year and a half old is literal nonsense given the circumstances.
Nope....Gigaton is the weakest album and live versions are still versions of mediocre songs. There are a few good ones, but overall a dud in my book. I've been here for the entire ride so I know how great their catalogue of songs are, and none of these are in the top half. If you enjoy Gigaton, all the power to you. I am disappointed at the setlist given it's their first show in years and Gigaton is a year and a half old.
Debbie downer man. You would complain if you won the lottery I bet. Ur post is a dud in my book. Do you like anything? What’s ur book look like? Does ur book have Pictures ?
A year and a half later and you still can’t accept that not everyone likes Gigaton.
Haha. Thought the same.
"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
Nope....Gigaton is the weakest album and live versions are still versions of mediocre songs. There are a few good ones, but overall a dud in my book. I've been here for the entire ride so I know how great their catalogue of songs are, and none of these are in the top half. If you enjoy Gigaton, all the power to you. I am disappointed at the setlist given it's their first show in years and Gigaton is a year and a half old.
Debbie downer man. You would complain if you won the lottery I bet. Ur post is a dud in my book. Do you like anything? What’s ur book look like? Does ur book have Pictures ?
A year and a half later and you still can’t accept that not everyone likes Gigaton.
Haha. The fans on here don’t like anything. It’s just what they didn’t get, didn’t like etc. I said my peace, I like it, best record in last 10 years easy. But if I’m not a huge fan of something I don’t call it a dud. Some people just don’t have taste. That’s cool, get in your time machine and go back to 1992 where you feel more comfortable. That’s all. Time for football and gambling.
Nope....Gigaton is the weakest album and live versions are still versions of mediocre songs. There are a few good ones, but overall a dud in my book. I've been here for the entire ride so I know how great their catalogue of songs are, and none of these are in the top half. If you enjoy Gigaton, all the power to you. I am disappointed at the setlist given it's their first show in years and Gigaton is a year and a half old.
Debbie downer man. You would complain if you won the lottery I bet. Ur post is a dud in my book. Do you like anything? What’s ur book look like? Does ur book have Pictures ?
A year and a half later and you still can’t accept that not everyone likes Gigaton.
Haha. The fans on here don’t like anything. It’s just what they didn’t get, didn’t like etc. I said my peace, I like it, best record in last 10 years easy. But if I’m not a huge fan of something I don’t call it a dud. Some people just don’t have taste. That’s cool, get in your time machine and go back to 1992 where you feel more comfortable. That’s all. Time for football and gambling.
So if I don’t like Gigaton, according to you, I don’t have taste and I only want another 1992 sounding Pj record? Hahah. Cool.
If people think dance of the clairvoyants is a momentum killer, buckle up will be a scorched earth, go to the bathroom even if you don't have to go, emergency brake, immediate energy stop when played live.
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I am not sure what qualifies as an amped crowd for a PJ show. I only ever see big reactions for the 90s hits. I distinctly remember being the only one amped for Mind Your Manners at Wrigley, in 10c seats. So my crowd expectations are low I guess.
The guy next to me did ask for the song name after Seven O’Clock. So that’s at least guy impressed by a first listen!
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I was impressed they played 6 new songs at festival and it gave me a pretty good head start on seeing the whole album live. I think I’m easy to please though as a fan. I would have been happy with whatever they chose to play after such a long layoff.
Song-checkbox-checkers... you can't live with them, you can't be in a Pearl Jam crowd without them (looking down app-gazing).
Too bad retrograde and river cross were ax’ed!
I think everyone but Ohana 4x attendees might have trouble completing Gigaton
also, where is Comes then Goes?
I’m assuming Ed needs a certain headspace for Comes then Goes. SHN was too short of a set and not the right crowd. I’m expecting it will show up more on the tour.
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I am not sure what qualifies as an amped crowd for a PJ show. I only ever see big reactions for the 90s hits. I distinctly remember being the only one amped for Mind Your Manners at Wrigley, in 10c seats. So my crowd expectations are low I guess.
The guy next to me did ask for the song name after Seven O’Clock. So that’s at least guy impressed by a first listen!
That's how it is at most shows. Unless it's a tenclub only show. So I don't get why people complain about song openers?
If people think dance of the clairvoyants is a momentum killer, buckle up will be a scorched earth, go to the bathroom even if you don't have to go, emergency brake, immediate energy stop when played live.
I seem to be in a sizable minority of people who like Buckle Up and think it would be great live. It’s not a big dancer, but it has a nice groove. A good intermediate set song. I would think that Alright would be the bathroom song. Just my opinion, and I certainly will not vouch for my own musical taste
I was impressed they played 6 new songs at festival and it gave me a pretty good head start on seeing the whole album live. I think I’m easy to please though as a fan. I would have been happy with whatever they chose to play after such a long layoff.
Song-checkbox-checkers... you can't live with them, you can't be in a Pearl Jam crowd without them (looking down app-gazing).
Too bad retrograde and river cross were ax’ed!
I think everyone but Ohana 4x attendees might have trouble completing Gigaton
also, where is Comes then Goes?
I’m assuming Ed needs a certain headspace for Comes then Goes. SHN was too short of a set and not the right crowd. I’m expecting it will show up more on the tour.
If people think dance of the clairvoyants is a momentum killer, buckle up will be a scorched earth, go to the bathroom even if you don't have to go, emergency brake, immediate energy stop when played live.
I seem to be in a sizable minority of people who like Buckle Up and think it would be great live. It’s not a big dancer, but it has a nice groove. A good intermediate set song. I would think that Alright would be the bathroom song. Just my opinion, and I certainly will not vouch for my own musical taste
I am really looking forward to Buckle Up live. It's a hugely under-rated song.
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@mcgruff10 was hoping they would open with You Are!
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I was impressed they played 6 new songs at festival and it gave me a pretty good head start on seeing the whole album live. I think I’m easy to please though as a fan. I would have been happy with whatever they chose to play after such a long layoff.
Song-checkbox-checkers... you can't live with them, you can't be in a Pearl Jam crowd without them (looking down app-gazing).
Too bad retrograde and river cross were ax’ed!
I think everyone but Ohana 4x attendees might have trouble completing Gigaton
also, where is Comes then Goes?
I’m assuming Ed needs a certain headspace for Comes then Goes. SHN was too short of a set and not the right crowd. I’m expecting it will show up more on the tour.
Yeah but it’s not even listed in the app.
Ohh gotcha! I thought you meant on the setlist.
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But I respect them opening with it and not play into the hands of the "mainstream" part of the crowd. The less "swinging on lamps" and "bring us your babies and we hang a tambourone around their neck" the better.
But if not "Can't Keep" then they should have opened with Quick Escape. Whether he admits it or not, that would have had McGruff up and dancing.
where were you standing last night? I was to the right of the sound stage pretty much next to the snow fence along the ocean. I'm guessing about 100 yards away from the stage.
And yeah, to think they weren’t going to be playing Gigaton songs because it came out a year and a half ago is a head scratcher. If anything the circumstances would suggest that they would be even more eager to play them.
also, where is Comes then Goes?
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The guy next to me did ask for the song name after Seven O’Clock. So that’s at least guy impressed by a first listen!