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  • bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 15,939
    mrussel1 said:
    bootlegger10 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    bootlegger10 said:
    If Trump is on tape saying Mike Pence deserved it then the trial should only take about 10 minutes. 
    That's not a crime. 
    I think his actions are treasonous.  The statement is damning.  

    President wants re-election.   To stay in power.  Loses election.  VP's job is to certify the election.  President does not want VP to certify the election.  A crowd of the president's supporters storm the capital and shout they want to hang Pence.  The President's reaction is to say he deserves it and not to take any action to tell his supporters to go home (or just as president in general to tell people not to riot at the Capitol).

    That is the action of a dictator.  He is trying to hold onto power and by his very statement was okay if the VP was harmed doing his constitutional duty. 

    Treason.      
    I think several of his actions may rise to the level of criminal, starting with seditious conspiracy.  However, the hanging statement isn't illegal.  It could be impeachable, but that is a different standard (and he isn't in office). 
    The statement in it of itself no. If he said that five days later than so be it.  I think the context of when he said it is evidence of his state of mind at the time and his acceptance of the riot versus trying to stop it.  Saying that when Pence is currently at-risk and not doing anything to stop it shows that he is supporting the behavior of the rioters.
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,668
    bootlegger10 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    bootlegger10 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    bootlegger10 said:
    If Trump is on tape saying Mike Pence deserved it then the trial should only take about 10 minutes. 
    That's not a crime. 
    I think his actions are treasonous.  The statement is damning.  

    President wants re-election.   To stay in power.  Loses election.  VP's job is to certify the election.  President does not want VP to certify the election.  A crowd of the president's supporters storm the capital and shout they want to hang Pence.  The President's reaction is to say he deserves it and not to take any action to tell his supporters to go home (or just as president in general to tell people not to riot at the Capitol).

    That is the action of a dictator.  He is trying to hold onto power and by his very statement was okay if the VP was harmed doing his constitutional duty. 

    Treason.      
    I think several of his actions may rise to the level of criminal, starting with seditious conspiracy.  However, the hanging statement isn't illegal.  It could be impeachable, but that is a different standard (and he isn't in office). 
    The statement in it of itself no. If he said that five days later than so be it.  I think the context of when he said it is evidence of his state of mind at the time and his acceptance of the riot versus trying to stop it.  Saying that when Pence is currently at-risk and not doing anything to stop it shows that he is supporting the behavior of the rioters.
    100%
  • SmellymanSmellyman Posts: 4,524
    mickeyrat said:
    apparently fox went commercial free for fucker carlsons show

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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 Posts: 23,303
    in the united states, is treason a capital offense? back in the uk you would be hanged, drawn, and quartered for it. 

    i am pretty anti death penalty with the exception of cases of treason. i think it should be punishable by blood eagle.
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  • Johnny AbruzzoJohnny Abruzzo Posts: 11,597
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    in the united states, is treason a capital offense? back in the uk you would be hanged, drawn, and quartered for it. 

    i am pretty anti death penalty with the exception of cases of treason. i think it should be punishable by blood eagle.
    I don’t support the death penalty. That’s for the Big Government Republicans. 
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Posts: 36,965
    I'd rather receive monthly updates of how miserable he is in prison. lol
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,519
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    I'd rather receive monthly updates of how miserable he is in prison. lol
    This! Man I’d laugh for years if we could see him in an Orange jump suit! 
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,668
    edited June 2022
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    in the united states, is treason a capital offense? back in the uk you would be hanged, drawn, and quartered for it. 

    i am pretty anti death penalty with the exception of cases of treason. i think it should be punishable by blood eagle.
    Treason is the only offense mentioned in the constitution.  But it is assisting an enemy of the United States. What he did is closer to sedition. 
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,557
    edited June 2022
    mrussel1 said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    in the united states, is treason a capital offense? back in the uk you would be hanged, drawn, and quartered for it. 

    i am pretty anti death penalty with the exception of cases of treason. i think it should be punishable by blood eagle.
    Treason is the only offense mentioned in the constitution.  But it is assisting an enemy of the United States. What he did is closer to sedition. 

    I'd like a read out from Helsinki
    and what exactly werethe top secret or clasdified docs that went to mar a lago...

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  • Out of My Mind and TimeOut of My Mind and Time Posts: 1,333
    josevolution said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    I'd rather receive monthly updates of how miserable he is in prison. lol
    This! Man I’d laugh for years if we could see him in an Orange jump suit! 
    Ha! Now you sound like the Lock her up crowd. 
  • SmellymanSmellyman Posts: 4,524
    mrussel1 said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    in the united states, is treason a capital offense? back in the uk you would be hanged, drawn, and quartered for it. 

    i am pretty anti death penalty with the exception of cases of treason. i think it should be punishable by blood eagle.
    Treason is the only offense mentioned in the constitution.  But it is assisting an enemy of the United States. What he did is closer to sedition. 

    Putin was throwing down those assists from Trump.  It was like Payton to Kemp
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,016
    Out of My Mind and Time said:
    josevolution said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    I'd rather receive monthly updates of how miserable he is in prison. lol
    This! Man I’d laugh for years if we could see him in an Orange jump suit! 
    Ha! Now you sound like the Lock her up crowd. 
    Not even close.Saaaaaa-wiiiiiiiiiing batta!
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 Posts: 23,303
    mrussel1 said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    in the united states, is treason a capital offense? back in the uk you would be hanged, drawn, and quartered for it. 

    i am pretty anti death penalty with the exception of cases of treason. i think it should be punishable by blood eagle.
    Treason is the only offense mentioned in the constitution.  But it is assisting an enemy of the United States. What he did is closer to sedition. 
    i would bet he assisted putin.

    also, all of those people that stormed the capital were assisting an enemy of the people, trump. 

    i bet a good lawyer can make the case with solid evidence. 

    i believe trump has forfeited his right to live any longer. he has been out of office for nearly 18 months and he just keeps going on and on and on that he did nothing wrong and that it was antifa, and that the election was stolen.. he is propagating insurrection. the death penalty was used to stop that. to end its life cycle. to make sure those treasonous ideas died with the guilty and as a deterrent to supporters of that person.

    look at me, being an actual patriot. not a fake one with a long gun going to mess with immigrants and lgbtq people like the 3 percenters.
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,519
    Out of My Mind and Time said:
    josevolution said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    I'd rather receive monthly updates of how miserable he is in prison. lol
    This! Man I’d laugh for years if we could see him in an Orange jump suit! 
    Ha! Now you sound like the Lock her up crowd. 
    Oh like you were! He needs to be gone from any public office ever if you don’t think so that’s too bad! 
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    josevolution said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    I'd rather receive monthly updates of how miserable he is in prison. lol
    This! Man I’d laugh for years if we could see him in an Orange jump suit! 

    I would not mind at all seeing him color coordinated that way!
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 20,262
    Holy shit this is damaging....tRump's own people are trashing his narrative
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,668
    Gern Blansten said:
    Holy shit this is damaging....tRump's own people are trashing his narrative
    Everyone knows it was a grift. 
  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,017
    Gern Blansten said:
    Holy shit this is damaging....tRump's own people are trashing his narrative

    For sure.  Any yet I am prone to thinking, "Yes... but..."  the but being the last sentence is this exempt from yesterdays Heather Cox Richardson's letter:

    "As the atmosphere around Trump gets hotter, there are cracks appearing in the Republican Party’s support for the former president. Today, Arkansas governor Asa Hutchinson, a Republican, said on Fox News Sunday that former president Trump is “politically, morally responsible” for the events of January 6, although Hutchinson expressed the opinion that the committee has not yet established that the former president is criminally liable. Hutchinson said, “Republicans need to do a lot of soul searching as to what is the right thing here and what is the right thing for our democracy in the future, and not simply adhere to the basic instincts of some of our base.”

    It is not clear that his colleagues will heed Hutchinson’s call."


    And 45's wacko avid fans are even less inclined to admit the truth about all this.


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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,016
    Bill DISbarred’s deposition is pretty damning. Seems as if the committee is illustrating the criminal intent of POOTWH. Merick is gonna have a bigly decision to make.
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  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,448
    Bill Barr laughing about 2,000 Mules is perfect.


    He knows how stupid this all is. 
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,016
    edited June 2022
    Guess those ten judges that POOTWH appointed were the brilliant brilliance of brilliancy?

    ”Only the best people, folks. Only the best.”
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,016
    Is fraud a crime? Do they call it “wire fraud?” Is that a crime?

    Suckers.
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,668
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Is fraud a crime? Do they call it “wire fraud?” Is that a crime?

    Suckers.
    Bannon committed wire fraud when he had the false Wall fundraiser.  Money moving over state lines electronically for illegitimate purposes is wire fraud.  You could make an argument that if the people in charge knowingly solicited funds for an illegitimate cause,  they committed wire fraud. 
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,557
    gift article...


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    gift article...




    That fictitious fund could possibly  be wire fraud, the first significant evidence of a crime. As far as trump being advised there was no election fraud, he is entitled to his opinion if his advisers had a different one. But raising money for a fund that doesn’t exist, and some of the money went to his hotel, they might have something there. That smells like a crime.
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,016
    You have to wonder what the behind the scenes, off the record, outside of formal meetings chatter was amongst the players and witnesses.

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    .  :D:D:D






  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,016
    Merkin Baller said:
    .  :D:D:D






    He has a future in standup. Or as a replacement for Alex Jones.
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 20,262
    Merkin Baller said:
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    lol....amazing
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
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  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,448
    Gern Blansten said:
    Merkin Baller said:
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    lol....amazing
    Not half as amazing as the amount of people who bought into the obvious grift. 

    Seth Cotlar is on twitter this afternoon going back & reviewing some of the fundraising emails that were sent out between election day 2020 & 1/6/21... now THAT'S some amazing shit right there. 

    I highly recommend people check it out. 

    https://twitter.com/sethcotlar/status/1536405405471059968?s=21&t=QR4GLcdDTDc3JiaUNqkayg
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