Ohana Encore Weekend

curmudgeoness

jammergirl said:

Go Animal said:

Saw him at Hard Rock Live in Orlando on the Sea Change tour. He put on a great show. Hoping we get some stuff from Odelay!, Midnight Vultures & Guero/Guerolito.

Sleepless Nights HAS to happen (unless Ed & Beck rummage for a new 45" to cover )

I love Beck, got into him even before discovering PJ! between him and Lord Huron I feel like this show was made for me. I saw Beck in 2006 and 2017, he is amazing live! Hoping for a duet with Ed as well.  

Like some people have said, I'm a bit nervous to attend as well with delta going around. I'm fully vaxxed but I do live with my twin 2-year old nieces and don't want to bring anything back to them. The outdoor concert itself sounds pretty darn safe. being near the ocean breezes and I plan on just hanging back and enjoying the music, my days of trying to press to the front are over. It's just the short flight and transportation/restaurants/etc. that is giving me a bit of anxiety. 

Honestly, I think delta will have burned through by then. That, sadly, does not rule out the spread of another variant...

JeBurkhardt

Spartanacus said:

Gern Blansten said:

1ThoughtKnown said:

Melzombie said:

gotthebottle said:

California will NOT lockdown but we will surely have mask mandates back again. In a close packed crowd, like Lolla, there WILL be tons of positive tests. The vaxxed who are infected will take the covid variant with them and spread it around. I think masks are not unreasonable and it's better than canceling events. 

I'm not an anti-masker, but good look to the fest crew enforcing masks outside, if it ends up like that. What a complete nightmare. Can you imagine someone going through the huge crowd, "excuse me sir, you need to cover your mouth and nose." I work part time at a grocery store (so I can afford to follow PJ) and it was a literal nightmare, a NIGHTMARE enforcing masks at my store. We had employees get threatened and spit on. I can't imagine them enforcing at Ohana. Maybe inside? but not at the stages. 

anyone else think they will require tests/cards like Lolla?? It doesn't matter to me because I'm fully vaccinated. 

No. Jeff Ament said in a recent interview they are not into playing if they have to check for vaccinations. Therefore, one would have to imagine they are not into having staff police attendees for mask wearing.  Outdoor spread of the virus is remote anyway. 

Fact:The risk of contracting the virus occurs when you are within 2 meters of a person indoors for 15 minutes or more. That 15 minutes is cumulative. 

There is some dispute regarding the CDC claim that 10% of transmission occur outdoors. Natural ventilation of being outdoors would significantly impede the ability of the virus to spread even if you were in a large crowd: 

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/beta.ctvnews.ca/local/toronto/2021/5/12/1_5425049.html

With approximately 60% of the crowd vaccinated (I believe the US vaccination rate is lower than that, real head scratcher to me) the risk is even lower. 

Ultimately, I have to ask:

How long should I be impeded from doing the things I enjoy because Alt-right lunatics don’t want to get vaccinated? To be clear, Alberta is as right wing as Canada can get and there are a fair share of alt-right wingnuts here.  We have zero restrictions and while infections are rising, hospitalizations are down. Lockdowns were to help the hospitals get through this…. We are through it.  Time to rock! 

I keep seeing this "if you are scared of getting COVID just wear a mask" narrative from the right. They equate mask wearing with fear...yet they are "scared" to get a fucking shot?  I can't get over the idiocy of these people.

They aren't afraid of getting the shot.  They aren't afraid of anything, except their freedom of choice and being taken away.  They just don't want to get the vax because it is not yet fully FDA approved and because they think they don't need it, which is true for the relatively young and healthy.  Please try to stop living in fear.  We're all going to die.  And kudos for Jeff (and Eric Clapton) for saying that.  Those who are afraid can triple vax, triple mask, try to steer clear of people, or don't go to the show.  It's all about choice...right?  Or is the left ready to abandon personal choice and be in favor of Roe vs. Wade getting overturned/?  We should all be pro-choice, pro-life, and believers that there is an acceptable middle ground compromise on most issues.  The same is true here.  These shows are outdoors and anyone 12 and over can get vax'd and can mask up...so there is no reason to fear going to any show, as long as you do what you need to do to protect yourself in order to curb your fears and make you feel safe.

You might want to check that. Two teenage grandsons of a friend of mine ended up in the hospital for COVID pneumonia. Both healthy with no pre existing conditions. The staff at the hospital said that they are seeing more young people with severe disease reactions than before. 

Gern Blansten

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/pediatricians-plead-fda-move-quickly-covid-vaccine-kids-n1276191

yeah the Delta variant is hitting kids harder

BloodMeridian80

Selfish simps are eschewing shots. Screwing themselves and everyone else in the process. Thanks!

wsimon74

Jason Isbell on requiring vaccine or a negative test to attend a show, ""I'm all for freedom but I think if you're dead, you don't have any freedoms at all."

https://twitter.com/RuhleOnMSNBC/status/1424731719165435912?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1424734615915405313%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es3_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fuproxx.com%2Findie%2Fjason-isbell-covid-vaccine-live-show-policy-msnbc%2F

Go Animal

wsimon74 said:

Jason Isbell on requiring vaccine or a negative test to attend a show, ""I'm all for freedom but I think if you're dead, you don't have any freedoms at all."

https://twitter.com/RuhleOnMSNBC/status/1424731719165435912?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1424734615915405313%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es3_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fuproxx.com%2Findie%2Fjason-isbell-covid-vaccine-live-show-policy-msnbc%2F

Knew I liked him

JeBurkhardt

wsimon74 said:

Jason Isbell on requiring vaccine or a negative test to attend a show, ""I'm all for freedom but I think if you're dead, you don't have any freedoms at all."

https://twitter.com/RuhleOnMSNBC/status/1424731719165435912?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1424734615915405313%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es3_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fuproxx.com%2Findie%2Fjason-isbell-covid-vaccine-live-show-policy-msnbc%2F

I got an email today about my Bob Mould show in October in St Louis. Venue is requiring proof of vaccine or negative test to get in. Works for me. Also the venue is saying a mask must be worn inside the venue. Still works for me. 

JojoRice

Bonnaroo just announced vax card or negative test to get in. 

PJNB

JojoRice said:

Bonnaroo just announced vax card or negative test to get in. 

Smart move and expect Ohana to soon follow

mfc2006

PJNB said:

JojoRice said:

Bonnaroo just announced vax card or negative test to get in. 

Smart move and expect Ohana to soon follow

Yup

1ThoughtKnown

But what is “proof of vaccination”? I have a 2 cards from the pharmacy saying what vaccine I received and which dose it was. Is that proof of vaccine? If so, it is easily counterfeited. How is a security guard at Ohana going to check if the vaccination I received in Calgary is from a legit pharmacy? It’s a dog and pony show if you ask me. 

Gern Blansten

1ThoughtKnown said:

But what is “proof of vaccination”? I have a 2 cards from the pharmacy saying what vaccine I received and which dose it was. Is that proof of vaccine? If so, it is easily counterfeited. How is a security guard at Ohana going to check if the vaccination I received in Calgary is from a legit pharmacy? It’s a dog and pony show if you ask me. 

Are those the CDC cards?  That is your proof if so.  

1ThoughtKnown

Gern Blansten said:

1ThoughtKnown said:

But what is “proof of vaccination”? I have a 2 cards from the pharmacy saying what vaccine I received and which dose it was. Is that proof of vaccine? If so, it is easily counterfeited. How is a security guard at Ohana going to check if the vaccination I received in Calgary is from a legit pharmacy? It’s a dog and pony show if you ask me. 

Are those the CDC cards?  That is your proof if so.  

The CDC is an American institution. The CDC has no jurisdiction over Canada, hopefully you realize that 

Gern Blansten

1ThoughtKnown said:

Gern Blansten said:

1ThoughtKnown said:

But what is “proof of vaccination”? I have a 2 cards from the pharmacy saying what vaccine I received and which dose it was. Is that proof of vaccine? If so, it is easily counterfeited. How is a security guard at Ohana going to check if the vaccination I received in Calgary is from a legit pharmacy? It’s a dog and pony show if you ask me. 

Are those the CDC cards?  That is your proof if so.  

The CDC is an American institution. The CDC has no jurisdiction over Canada, hopefully you realize that 

LOL....didn't realize you were Canadian.  I guess Calgary should have tipped me off.  I'm so stupid.

1ThoughtKnown

I I didn’t realize the CDC gives Americans a card proving they received the vaccine. We both learned something.  😂

JOEJOEJOE

Some medical providers allow you to receive a text with a Q-code showing your proof of vax.....a good way to reduce phony vax cards.

chitty

1ThoughtKnown said:

But what is “proof of vaccination”? I have a 2 cards from the pharmacy saying what vaccine I received and which dose it was. Is that proof of vaccine? If so, it is easily counterfeited. How is a security guard at Ohana going to check if the vaccination I received in Calgary is from a legit pharmacy? It’s a dog and pony show if you ask me. 

In BC we get a card like you (easily counterfeited), but also can log in online to our medical health profile which shows which vaccine and what day. I went to Europe for work this way and came back into Canada after July 7 and that was accepted. Who knows though with 20,000 people going into a concert venue if that will even be checked properly.

I would assume by the time we can get into the USA for non essential purposes, hopefully that is soon, the assumption is if Canadian you were checked at the border for vaccination. No way non vaccinated will be allowed into USA for the immediate future.

1ThoughtKnown

chitty said:

1ThoughtKnown said:

But what is “proof of vaccination”? I have a 2 cards from the pharmacy saying what vaccine I received and which dose it was. Is that proof of vaccine? If so, it is easily counterfeited. How is a security guard at Ohana going to check if the vaccination I received in Calgary is from a legit pharmacy? It’s a dog and pony show if you ask me. 

In BC we get a card like you (easily counterfeited), but also can log in online to our medical health profile which shows which vaccine and what day. I went to Europe for work this way and came back into Canada after July 7 and that was accepted. Who knows though with 20,000 people going into a concert venue if that will even be checked properly.

I would assume by the time we can get into the USA for non essential purposes, hopefully that is soon, the assumption is if Canadian you were checked at the border for vaccination. No way non vaccinated will be allowed into USA for the immediate future.

We have that in Alberta as well. It shows everything my family doctor can see. Still not sure how a worker at the gate is going to know that is legitimate. I’m pretty sure the band knows this and it was why Jeff said in a recent interview they aren’t into performing if they have to test or check vaccinations. 

US customs has allowed Canadians to fly into the US throughout the pandemic. Only requirement is a 72 hour COVID test. No proof of vaccination required. 

PJNB

Curious what songs everyone is hoping to hear whether it is for the first time or not. My top five would be

1. Parting Ways
2. Hard to Imagine
3. Hold On
4. Undone
5. Around the Bend

rival9500

PJNB said:

Curious what songs everyone is hoping to hear whether it is for the first time or not. My top five would be

1. Parting Ways
2. Hard to Imagine
3. Hold On
4. Undone
5. Around the Bend

I would love any of those.  For me it’s Around The Bend, Otherside, All or None, Big Wave.