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  • AW124797
    AW124797 Posts: 762
    edited January 2022
    mickeyrat said:
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Hey! Brakes in your car don’t prevent 100% of accidents. Completely useless. Get rid of em and don’t use them.
    You mentioned "lost interest?"
    As had you. But you also haven’t defended your positions or declarations very well. I’m not sure why that is, though.
    Simple - you believe in Jesus and I believe in Santa. Or vice versa. I forgot.
    Oh the sweet baby jebus! Santa is real! Still can’t defend your opines, eh? Well, Christmas is coming and if you’re good, Santa will help you.
    Do I really have to defend record breaking cases globally after one year of vaccination? I'm sure you've heard. Or ineffective flu vaccine at 40%? What else? 
    What percentage of folks have to have had covid to reach herd immunity? What percentage of those with covid, hospitalized and dying are unvaccinated? Versus those who are?

    Is seasonal flu eradicated? How about aids? SARS? Or any other type of viral infection disease?

    If not 100%, it’s not effective? That’s just dumb. Drunk driving laws? Not effective, get rid of them. And hey! Go out and drunk drive everyone because, well, we can’t stop it 100% anyway. And age limits for guns? Why? You’re not stopping kids from killing others, right? What’s the point? And child proof caps on cleaning chemicals and medicine. Just a pain in the ass. Get rid of them. Lighters? Those Bic lighters where you’ve got to press two buttons simultaneously while you flick to get it to light? Dumb! Go back to the old school lighters. Airbags? No good, either.

    Is everyone who is eligible to be vaccinated, vaccinated?
    How do you have time for all of this? Wasted your whole day...
    Took me about a minute and I must say, I’m entertained by our exchanges but hardly enlightened. I miss the old days. Sigh (through my mask).
    What did you want me to say? Counter argue they should ban alcohol, cigarettes and (most importantly) sugar? It's pointless. By the way, you meant to say - through my double mask.
    Out of curiosity, do you think that life insurance companies will raise the rates on or refuse coverage for unvaccinated people in the same way they do for cigarette smokers, alcoholics, and obese people?  

    Probably?  If something makes the odds too high of having to pay out, the insurance companies won't want to insure it.   There whole model works on everyone chipping into a pot, but only so many people need to take from the pot.    If unvaxxed people have too great a chance of landing in the hospital, it would tip those scales.
    Exactly.  But it’s probably a pointless topic since most anti-vax idiots are probably too selfish and inconsiderate to consider life insurance anyway.  That, and I think some of them truly believe they are invincible.  I can’t keep up with their delusions anymore.
    Why would you say "anti-vax idiots?" It's equivalent to "fat idiots." Over 50% of forum users are obese. Why not tell them to slow down on donut, coke and midnight snack consumption? Or mandate calorie intake restrictions. Same thing. Health choices.
    By far the dumbest analogy I’ve seen lately, congrats.  If you didn’t believe eating donuts and cokes makes you fat, then yes, I would call you a fat idiot.  Where is your data that 50% of forum users are obese?  You state that as a fact with no research?  Sounds like you just believe what you want to with only assumptions to credit for those beliefs.  Sounds like a fabulous way to go about making medical decisions.
    How is that the dumbest analogy? Did you know that much like the vaccine, there are plenty of studies that show that being overweight isn't healthy for you? Obesity has been on of COVID's biggest issues. Many of the people that have died are obese. It isn't hard to exercise yet people still don't do it. Funny how all of the anti-vax shamers don't go after the obese in the same way. If more people lived a healthier life, many lives could've been saved during this pandemic. Are obese people selfish? They take up hospital beds because of their life choices. They make life decisions to not be healthy much like the unvaccinated make their decision.

    Thank you!
    Your analogy is right on point and don't let anyone tell you anything different. Obese people make the decision to be obese much like the unvaccinated make their decision to not be vaccinated. Both have all the information they need but still make their own decision to be not be healthy. I am not advocating that everyone starts to shame the obese. To be clear, we shouldn't be shaming either group because it's only going to cause more division. There is a plethora of unhealthy decisions made every day by many of us yet the unvaccinated are the only ones being attacked daily.


    and alcoholics choose to be alcoholic and drug addicts choose to be addicted.
    you guys are so far off base its mind boggling
    In 2022 most addicts knew the initial risks. If I want to buy my first pack of cigarettes then it's my decision. Same risk applies to not getting a vaccine. Freedom of choice. Of course, it's psychological for most obese (which I honestly feel bad for), but SOME are obese via pure negligence. Again, their health decision. Nobody takes their cookies away or calls them fat idiots on a public forum.
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  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    AW124797 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    JB16057 said:
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    PJPOWER said:
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    Zod said:
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Hey! Brakes in your car don’t prevent 100% of accidents. Completely useless. Get rid of em and don’t use them.
    You mentioned "lost interest?"
    As had you. But you also haven’t defended your positions or declarations very well. I’m not sure why that is, though.
    Simple - you believe in Jesus and I believe in Santa. Or vice versa. I forgot.
    Oh the sweet baby jebus! Santa is real! Still can’t defend your opines, eh? Well, Christmas is coming and if you’re good, Santa will help you.
    Do I really have to defend record breaking cases globally after one year of vaccination? I'm sure you've heard. Or ineffective flu vaccine at 40%? What else? 
    What percentage of folks have to have had covid to reach herd immunity? What percentage of those with covid, hospitalized and dying are unvaccinated? Versus those who are?

    Is seasonal flu eradicated? How about aids? SARS? Or any other type of viral infection disease?

    If not 100%, it’s not effective? That’s just dumb. Drunk driving laws? Not effective, get rid of them. And hey! Go out and drunk drive everyone because, well, we can’t stop it 100% anyway. And age limits for guns? Why? You’re not stopping kids from killing others, right? What’s the point? And child proof caps on cleaning chemicals and medicine. Just a pain in the ass. Get rid of them. Lighters? Those Bic lighters where you’ve got to press two buttons simultaneously while you flick to get it to light? Dumb! Go back to the old school lighters. Airbags? No good, either.

    Is everyone who is eligible to be vaccinated, vaccinated?
    How do you have time for all of this? Wasted your whole day...
    Took me about a minute and I must say, I’m entertained by our exchanges but hardly enlightened. I miss the old days. Sigh (through my mask).
    What did you want me to say? Counter argue they should ban alcohol, cigarettes and (most importantly) sugar? It's pointless. By the way, you meant to say - through my double mask.
    Out of curiosity, do you think that life insurance companies will raise the rates on or refuse coverage for unvaccinated people in the same way they do for cigarette smokers, alcoholics, and obese people?  

    Probably?  If something makes the odds too high of having to pay out, the insurance companies won't want to insure it.   There whole model works on everyone chipping into a pot, but only so many people need to take from the pot.    If unvaxxed people have too great a chance of landing in the hospital, it would tip those scales.
    Exactly.  But it’s probably a pointless topic since most anti-vax idiots are probably too selfish and inconsiderate to consider life insurance anyway.  That, and I think some of them truly believe they are invincible.  I can’t keep up with their delusions anymore.
    Why would you say "anti-vax idiots?" It's equivalent to "fat idiots." Over 50% of forum users are obese. Why not tell them to slow down on donut, coke and midnight snack consumption? Or mandate calorie intake restrictions. Same thing. Health choices.
    By far the dumbest analogy I’ve seen lately, congrats.  If you didn’t believe eating donuts and cokes makes you fat, then yes, I would call you a fat idiot.  Where is your data that 50% of forum users are obese?  You state that as a fact with no research?  Sounds like you just believe what you want to with only assumptions to credit for those beliefs.  Sounds like a fabulous way to go about making medical decisions.
    How is that the dumbest analogy? Did you know that much like the vaccine, there are plenty of studies that show that being overweight isn't healthy for you? Obesity has been on of COVID's biggest issues. Many of the people that have died are obese. It isn't hard to exercise yet people still don't do it. Funny how all of the anti-vax shamers don't go after the obese in the same way. If more people lived a healthier life, many lives could've been saved during this pandemic. Are obese people selfish? They take up hospital beds because of their life choices. They make life decisions to not be healthy much like the unvaccinated make their decision.

    Thank you!
    Your analogy is right on point and don't let anyone tell you anything different. Obese people make the decision to be obese much like the unvaccinated make their decision to not be vaccinated. Both have all the information they need but still make their own decision to be not be healthy. I am not advocating that everyone starts to shame the obese. To be clear, we shouldn't be shaming either group because it's only going to cause more division. There is a plethora of unhealthy decisions made every day by many of us yet the unvaccinated are the only ones being attacked daily.


    and alcoholics choose to be alcoholic and drug addicts choose to be addicted.
    you guys are so far off base its mind boggling
    In 2022 most addicts knew the initial risks. If I want to buy my first pack of cigarettes then it's my decision. Same risk applies to not getting a vaccine. Freedom of choice. Of course, it's psychological for most obese (which I honestly feel bad for), but SOME are obese via pure negligence. Again, their health decision. Nobody takes their cookies away or calls them fat idiots on a public forum.
    How is expecting people to be responsible for their own choices off base mind boggling?  
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  • AW124797
    AW124797 Posts: 762
    Meltdown99 said:
    So the answer is no…even though you could spread the flu and an elderly person could pick it up and who knows…ok.

    you are wearing a mask because you are told too…we all knew wearing a mask during cold and flu season would be beneficial, we have seen examples…it’s not uncommon for asians to wear masks…


    The guy on the right is an NDP politician from northern Ontario…he was this on tv yesterday losing his shit over the unvaccinated…I thought he was going to stroke out, look how red his face is?  So unless this dude was bigger at the start of the pandemic, then what has he done to improve his odds if he contracted the virus?  What is he going do just sit around and get jabbed every month while not lifting a finger to help himself…

    Very unhealthy individual giving health advice on public TV. They might want to think that over.
  • AW124797
    AW124797 Posts: 762
    Meltdown99 said:
    So the answer is no…even though you could spread the flu and an elderly person could pick it up and who knows…ok.

    you are wearing a mask because you are told too…we all knew wearing a mask during cold and flu season would be beneficial, we have seen examples…it’s not uncommon for asians to wear masks…


    The guy on the right is an NDP politician from northern Ontario…he was this on tv yesterday losing his shit over the unvaccinated…I thought he was going to stroke out, look how red his face is?  So unless this dude was bigger at the start of the pandemic, then what has he done to improve his odds if he contracted the virus?  What is he going do just sit around and get jabbed every month while not lifting a finger to help himself…

    Somebody on their PR team is getting fired.
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    Meltdown99 said:
    brianlux said:
    What ever happened to good common sense medical practice?
    Doctors Nurses and Smoking Smoking Among Medical Professionals

    I had a dr in high school that used to smoke and drink whiskey while consulting his patients…crazy

    That is wild, lol!
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    Meltdown99 said:
    I take it you hard core mask wearers were wearing them in all the past cold and flu seasons and you plan on wearing them in perpetuity…is that correct?

    Yeah, I think so.  I had a flu bug once before COVID that was really, really bad.  And that was about 5 or 6 years ago.  At this stage in life, yeah, I'm covering my ass.  Oh yeah, and my mouth and nose as well.
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  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739


    Ooops.  Looks like Ontario chief medical officer went off script…
    Give Peas A Chance…
  • AW124797
    AW124797 Posts: 762
    Meltdown99 said:


    Ooops.  Looks like Ontario chief medical officer went off script…
    Chief didn't get the memo.
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    If the vaccine was still effective then maybe Quebec might have a case...but the vacinne is proving to be less effective and expecting people to get a shot every 3 months to cover up for politicians and bureaucrats who can't manage the healthcare system properly is ludicrous....and if that greaseball running Quebec is somehow your hero, well...choose better...
    .
    The greaseball running the province also promised medical info would not be shared between government agencies...so it's not ethical...but ethics don't matter when your covering up your own incompetence...
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  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    Let’s bring in a fat tax.  We know that obese people do very badly with Covid…let’s tax them?

    because we do know is that fat people cost the system plenty?

    what we do know is that the vaccine is less effective?  We do not know the course of the this virus or the vaccine…so yeah let’s tax people who refuse to get jabbed every 3/4 months because your cult leaders are DUMB…
    Give Peas A Chance…
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739


    Why should my tax dollars pay for fatty on the right healthcare..This fatty had done nothing to lose weight…

    originally with the original 2 shots and the booster I said get the shot and have yet he unvaccinated healthcare … but since then things have changed…

    Maybe these so called leaders should try honesty…and start by saying “at this point we really don’t know.”  Go from there…but quit pretending they know…because no one knows..

    Give Peas A Chance…
  • Gern Blansten
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    Meltdown99 said:


    Why should my tax dollars pay for fatty on the right healthcare..This fatty had done nothing to lose weight…

    originally with the original 2 shots and the booster I said get the shot and have yet he unvaccinated healthcare … but since then things have changed…

    Maybe these so called leaders should try honesty…and start by saying “at this point we really don’t know.”  Go from there…but quit pretending they know…because no one knows..

    how do you know he has done nothing to lose weight?  Maybe he used to be much bigger...maybe he could eat four Big Macs but he stops at three...
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  • mickeyrat
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    Gern Blansten said:
    Meltdown99 said:


    Why should my tax dollars pay for fatty on the right healthcare..This fatty had done nothing to lose weight…

    originally with the original 2 shots and the booster I said get the shot and have yet he unvaccinated healthcare … but since then things have changed…

    Maybe these so called leaders should try honesty…and start by saying “at this point we really don’t know.”  Go from there…but quit pretending they know…because no one knows..

    how do you know he has done nothing to lose weight?  Maybe he used to be much bigger...maybe he could eat four Big Macs but he stops at three...

    maybe its genetic.
    maybe its medication caused

    many reasons why someone is obese
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  • AW124797
    AW124797 Posts: 762
    mickeyrat said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    Meltdown99 said:


    Why should my tax dollars pay for fatty on the right healthcare..This fatty had done nothing to lose weight…

    originally with the original 2 shots and the booster I said get the shot and have yet he unvaccinated healthcare … but since then things have changed…

    Maybe these so called leaders should try honesty…and start by saying “at this point we really don’t know.”  Go from there…but quit pretending they know…because no one knows..

    how do you know he has done nothing to lose weight?  Maybe he used to be much bigger...maybe he could eat four Big Macs but he stops at three...

    maybe its genetic.
    maybe its medication caused

    many reasons why someone is obese
    Many good reasons to tax him if they are going that route.
    Everybody has a reason. Even the unvaccinated.
  • AW124797
    AW124797 Posts: 762
    mickeyrat said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    Meltdown99 said:


    Why should my tax dollars pay for fatty on the right healthcare..This fatty had done nothing to lose weight…

    originally with the original 2 shots and the booster I said get the shot and have yet he unvaccinated healthcare … but since then things have changed…

    Maybe these so called leaders should try honesty…and start by saying “at this point we really don’t know.”  Go from there…but quit pretending they know…because no one knows..

    how do you know he has done nothing to lose weight?  Maybe he used to be much bigger...maybe he could eat four Big Macs but he stops at three...

    maybe its genetic.
    maybe its medication caused

    many reasons why someone is obese
     But if they went that route then this guy needs mandatory therapy with mandatory checkups every 5 months to determine his tax penalty if he was naughty to pay for his therapy and burden on the health care system.
  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    edited January 2022
    AW124797 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    Meltdown99 said:


    Why should my tax dollars pay for fatty on the right healthcare..This fatty had done nothing to lose weight…

    originally with the original 2 shots and the booster I said get the shot and have yet he unvaccinated healthcare … but since then things have changed…

    Maybe these so called leaders should try honesty…and start by saying “at this point we really don’t know.”  Go from there…but quit pretending they know…because no one knows..

    how do you know he has done nothing to lose weight?  Maybe he used to be much bigger...maybe he could eat four Big Macs but he stops at three...

    maybe its genetic.
    maybe its medication caused

    many reasons why someone is obese
    Many good reasons to tax him if they are going that route.
    Everybody has a reason. Even the unvaccinated.
    You are charged extra for life insurance if your BMI is above a certain level, so they absolutely should do the same with those refusing to get vaccinated.  
    Maybe the tax is just that you die at a younger age for obesity?  The tax for Covid may be that you live with severe brain damage or severe vascular issues.  Some studies have shown that men experiencing a severe case of Covid are having erectile disfunction issues.  If you don’t like me calling anti-vaxxers “idiots”, maybe “limp dickers” is a more appropriate term?
    The vaccinated are still getting way less severe cases if they do get a “breakthrough” case, so they are most likely safer from that outcome.
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  • AW124797
    AW124797 Posts: 762
    PJPOWER said:
    AW124797 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    Meltdown99 said:


    Why should my tax dollars pay for fatty on the right healthcare..This fatty had done nothing to lose weight…

    originally with the original 2 shots and the booster I said get the shot and have yet he unvaccinated healthcare … but since then things have changed…

    Maybe these so called leaders should try honesty…and start by saying “at this point we really don’t know.”  Go from there…but quit pretending they know…because no one knows..

    how do you know he has done nothing to lose weight?  Maybe he used to be much bigger...maybe he could eat four Big Macs but he stops at three...

    maybe its genetic.
    maybe its medication caused

    many reasons why someone is obese
    Many good reasons to tax him if they are going that route.
    Everybody has a reason. Even the unvaccinated.
    You are charged extra for life insurance if your BMI is above a certain level, so they absolutely should do the same with those refusing to get vaccinated.  
    Maybe the tax is just that you die at a younger age for obesity?  The tax for Covid may be that you live with severe brain damage or severe vascular issues.  Some studies have shown that men experiencing a severe case of Covid are having erectile disfunction issues.  If you don’t like me calling anti-vaxxers “idiots”, maybe “limp dickers” is a more appropriate term?
    The vaccinated are still getting way less severe cases if they do get a “breakthrough” case, so they are most likely safer from that outcome.
    Sorry about your erectile dysfunction. Explains your anger.
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,883
    AW124797 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    AW124797 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    Meltdown99 said:


    Why should my tax dollars pay for fatty on the right healthcare..This fatty had done nothing to lose weight…

    originally with the original 2 shots and the booster I said get the shot and have yet he unvaccinated healthcare … but since then things have changed…

    Maybe these so called leaders should try honesty…and start by saying “at this point we really don’t know.”  Go from there…but quit pretending they know…because no one knows..

    how do you know he has done nothing to lose weight?  Maybe he used to be much bigger...maybe he could eat four Big Macs but he stops at three...

    maybe its genetic.
    maybe its medication caused

    many reasons why someone is obese
    Many good reasons to tax him if they are going that route.
    Everybody has a reason. Even the unvaccinated.
    You are charged extra for life insurance if your BMI is above a certain level, so they absolutely should do the same with those refusing to get vaccinated.  
    Maybe the tax is just that you die at a younger age for obesity?  The tax for Covid may be that you live with severe brain damage or severe vascular issues.  Some studies have shown that men experiencing a severe case of Covid are having erectile disfunction issues.  If you don’t like me calling anti-vaxxers “idiots”, maybe “limp dickers” is a more appropriate term?
    The vaccinated are still getting way less severe cases if they do get a “breakthrough” case, so they are most likely safer from that outcome.
    Sorry about your erectile dysfunction. Explains your anger.
    What a strange comment. 
  • Bentleyspop
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    Maybe this is what it takes to end obesity...

    https://community.pearljam.com/discussion/291193/iso-autographed-pj-poster-i-dropped-75-lbs-so-i-could-get-one#latest
  • AW124797
    AW124797 Posts: 762
    mrussel1 said:
    AW124797 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    AW124797 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    Meltdown99 said:


    Why should my tax dollars pay for fatty on the right healthcare..This fatty had done nothing to lose weight…

    originally with the original 2 shots and the booster I said get the shot and have yet he unvaccinated healthcare … but since then things have changed…

    Maybe these so called leaders should try honesty…and start by saying “at this point we really don’t know.”  Go from there…but quit pretending they know…because no one knows..

    how do you know he has done nothing to lose weight?  Maybe he used to be much bigger...maybe he could eat four Big Macs but he stops at three...

    maybe its genetic.
    maybe its medication caused

    many reasons why someone is obese
    Many good reasons to tax him if they are going that route.
    Everybody has a reason. Even the unvaccinated.
    You are charged extra for life insurance if your BMI is above a certain level, so they absolutely should do the same with those refusing to get vaccinated.  
    Maybe the tax is just that you die at a younger age for obesity?  The tax for Covid may be that you live with severe brain damage or severe vascular issues.  Some studies have shown that men experiencing a severe case of Covid are having erectile disfunction issues.  If you don’t like me calling anti-vaxxers “idiots”, maybe “limp dickers” is a more appropriate term?
    The vaccinated are still getting way less severe cases if they do get a “breakthrough” case, so they are most likely safer from that outcome.
    Sorry about your erectile dysfunction. Explains your anger.
    What a strange comment. 
    And not a strange analogy.
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