Viruses / Vaccines

bootlegger10

Great job, governor.  Actually trying to find out the real numbers.    While they still may be high, at least you have more credibility.

nicknyr15

bootlegger10 said:

Great job, governor.  Actually trying to find out the real numbers.    While they still may be high, at least you have more credibility.

Absolutely. Well done. 

mickeyrat

good info to have. still means the same thing. near capacity hospitals.

josevolution

https://twitter.com/repjimbanks/status/1479136092200833028?s=21

How can he be this stupid? 

Meltdown99

Time for togetherness

https://niagaraindependent.ca/time-for-togetherness/

We got your backs…those famous last words.

The ever-quotable American economist Thomas Sowell said that “It is hard to imagine a more stupid or more dangerous way of making decisions than by putting those decisions in the hands of people who pay no price for being wrong.” This truism has become especially relevant in the context of the COVID-19 pandemic, where the politicians, public health officials, government bureaucrats and public sector unions pay no price for the draconian policies they have imposed on the rest of us and therefore have little if any stake in being wrong.  

mrussel1

Meltdown99 said:

Time for togetherness

https://niagaraindependent.ca/time-for-togetherness/

We got your backs…those famous last words.

The ever-quotable American economist Thomas Sowell said that “It is hard to imagine a more stupid or more dangerous way of making decisions than by putting those decisions in the hands of people who pay no price for being wrong.” This truism has become especially relevant in the context of the COVID-19 pandemic, where the politicians, public health officials, government bureaucrats and public sector unions pay no price for the draconian policies they have imposed on the rest of us and therefore have little if any stake in being wrong.  

Pfft.. Sowell hasn’t been an economist in 40 years.  He’s purely a pundit and bomb thrower, although elderly and retired now.  

Spunkie

https://bccovid-19group.ca/

There is a January 6th covid modelling report available at the above  link (which is independent from government modelling).

Although BC's modelling may not pertain to your area, the projections use omicron information from studies obtained from around the world. You can learn a lot about what BC scholars consider the best omicron data so far by clicking on the links within this report.

Edit: example of timeline to achieve a reduction in cases...

bootlegger10

josevolution said:

https://twitter.com/repjimbanks/status/1479136092200833028?s=21

How can he be this stupid? 

Isn’t the article saying that the non-Covid marked deaths are a lot higher?  That is what it seems like he wants to understand.  It may be Covid, but rather have good data than assumptions.

elvistheking44

We made getting our boosters a family adventure yesterday. Had a 2:00 appointment for four of us. Line was 20 minutes long, we waited out in the Chicago cold. Myself and my wife plus the two kids aged 21 and 15. My 15 year old is having bad side effects. Slight fever, chills and muscle aches. Everyone else is a ok. Hope it is worth it.

mrussel1

elvistheking44 said:

We made getting our boosters a family adventure yesterday. Had a 2:00 appointment for four of us. Line was 20 minutes long, we waited out in the Chicago cold. Myself and my wife plus the two kids aged 21 and 15. My 15 year old is having bad side effects. Slight fever, chills and muscle aches. Everyone else is a ok. Hope it is worth it.

If Omicron hasn't already ripped through your town,  it will be worth it.  

Anecdotal data.... 

1. We went to a wedding a week before Christmas where my oldest daughter was in the party.  She was boosted.  Several people in the wedding party got COVID. My daughter didn't.  We didn't, all boosted 

2. My son caught it and showed symptoms. Three days of sickness, bad cold or mild flu. 5 days to test negative.  No booster.  

3. My closest friend,  who has a blood and lung disease from smoking (hasn't quit) was over Tuesday after Christmas.  Overnight that night he woke up with it.  Just like my son,  3 days of sickness. No booster, but vaxed. He's the kind of person that would die of it unvaxed. 

I'm pretty sure my wife and I have had it asymptomatic or were clearly exposed and fought it off with the booster. 

mickeyrat

  https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/interactive/2022/omicron-comparison-cases-deaths-hospitalizations/

dankind

mrussel1 said:

elvistheking44 said:

We made getting our boosters a family adventure yesterday. Had a 2:00 appointment for four of us. Line was 20 minutes long, we waited out in the Chicago cold. Myself and my wife plus the two kids aged 21 and 15. My 15 year old is having bad side effects. Slight fever, chills and muscle aches. Everyone else is a ok. Hope it is worth it.

If Omicron hasn't already ripped through your town,  it will be worth it.  

Anecdotal data.... 

1. We went to a wedding a week before Christmas where my oldest daughter was in the party.  She was boosted.  Several people in the wedding party got COVID. My daughter didn't.  We didn't, all boosted 

2. My son caught it and showed symptoms. Three days of sickness, bad cold or mild flu. 5 days to test negative.  No booster.  

3. My closest friend,  who has a blood and lung disease from smoking (hasn't quit) was over Tuesday after Christmas.  Overnight that night he woke up with it.  Just like my son,  3 days of sickness. No booster, but vaxed. He's the kind of person that would die of it unvaxed. 

I'm pretty sure my wife and I have had it asymptomatic or were clearly exposed and fought it off with the booster. 

“Anecdotal data” is an oxymoron. 

“Anecdotes” would suffice. 

Or perhaps “personal observations.”

mickeyrat

dankind said:

mrussel1 said:

elvistheking44 said:

We made getting our boosters a family adventure yesterday. Had a 2:00 appointment for four of us. Line was 20 minutes long, we waited out in the Chicago cold. Myself and my wife plus the two kids aged 21 and 15. My 15 year old is having bad side effects. Slight fever, chills and muscle aches. Everyone else is a ok. Hope it is worth it.

If Omicron hasn't already ripped through your town,  it will be worth it.  

Anecdotal data.... 

1. We went to a wedding a week before Christmas where my oldest daughter was in the party.  She was boosted.  Several people in the wedding party got COVID. My daughter didn't.  We didn't, all boosted 

2. My son caught it and showed symptoms. Three days of sickness, bad cold or mild flu. 5 days to test negative.  No booster.  

3. My closest friend,  who has a blood and lung disease from smoking (hasn't quit) was over Tuesday after Christmas.  Overnight that night he woke up with it.  Just like my son,  3 days of sickness. No booster, but vaxed. He's the kind of person that would die of it unvaxed. 

I'm pretty sure my wife and I have had it asymptomatic or were clearly exposed and fought it off with the booster. 

“Anecdotal data” is an oxymoron. 

“Anecdotes” would suffice. 

Or perhaps “personal observations.”

anecdotal in being shared with us. same facts shared with researchers would be data points.

same facts are different depending on who hears them?

mrussel1

dankind said:

mrussel1 said:

elvistheking44 said:

We made getting our boosters a family adventure yesterday. Had a 2:00 appointment for four of us. Line was 20 minutes long, we waited out in the Chicago cold. Myself and my wife plus the two kids aged 21 and 15. My 15 year old is having bad side effects. Slight fever, chills and muscle aches. Everyone else is a ok. Hope it is worth it.

If Omicron hasn't already ripped through your town,  it will be worth it.  

Anecdotal data.... 

1. We went to a wedding a week before Christmas where my oldest daughter was in the party.  She was boosted.  Several people in the wedding party got COVID. My daughter didn't.  We didn't, all boosted 

2. My son caught it and showed symptoms. Three days of sickness, bad cold or mild flu. 5 days to test negative.  No booster.  

3. My closest friend,  who has a blood and lung disease from smoking (hasn't quit) was over Tuesday after Christmas.  Overnight that night he woke up with it.  Just like my son,  3 days of sickness. No booster, but vaxed. He's the kind of person that would die of it unvaxed. 

I'm pretty sure my wife and I have had it asymptomatic or were clearly exposed and fought it off with the booster. 

“Anecdotal data” is an oxymoron. 

“Anecdotes” would suffice. 

Or perhaps “personal observations.”

Yes you're right. Eye roll. Thanks for chiming in with this important clarification. 

AW124797

Good follow up to new data from NY. As expected...

CDC Director Walensky fails to disclose how many deaths were 'from' COVID-19: 'Data will be forthcoming'

https://www.foxnews.com/media/cdc-director-walensky-distinctions-covid-related-deaths-data-forthcoming

mrussel1

AW124797 said:

Good follow up to new data from NY. As expected...

CDC Director Walensky fails to disclose how many deaths were 'from' COVID-19: 'Data will be forthcoming'

https://www.foxnews.com/media/cdc-director-walensky-distinctions-covid-related-deaths-data-forthcoming

Nice spin.. "fails to disclose". Great job Fox as always. Did she promise to have it before the interview?

And let's be clear,  I'm guessing the vast majority of people who died had co-morbidities.   Half the country is overweight.  I have controlled hypertension but that's a co-morbiditity. This is a right wing red herring as usual.  And a far cry from the alleged "guy dies in a motorcycle accident" example people throw out.

AW124797

mrussel1 said:

AW124797 said:

Good follow up to new data from NY. As expected...

CDC Director Walensky fails to disclose how many deaths were 'from' COVID-19: 'Data will be forthcoming'

https://www.foxnews.com/media/cdc-director-walensky-distinctions-covid-related-deaths-data-forthcoming

Nice spin.. "fails to disclose". Great job Fox as always. Did she promise to have it before the interview?

And let's be clear,  I'm guessing the vast majority of people who died had co-morbidities.   Half the country is overweight.  I have controlled hypertension but that's a co-morbiditity. This is a right wing red herring as usual.  And a far cry from the alleged "guy dies in a motorcycle accident" example people throw out.

Did you watch the 13 minute interview? 30 good questions, few proper answers from the CDC director.

mrussel1

AW124797 said:

mrussel1 said:

AW124797 said:

Good follow up to new data from NY. As expected...

CDC Director Walensky fails to disclose how many deaths were 'from' COVID-19: 'Data will be forthcoming'

https://www.foxnews.com/media/cdc-director-walensky-distinctions-covid-related-deaths-data-forthcoming

Nice spin.. "fails to disclose". Great job Fox as always. Did she promise to have it before the interview?

And let's be clear,  I'm guessing the vast majority of people who died had co-morbidities.   Half the country is overweight.  I have controlled hypertension but that's a co-morbiditity. This is a right wing red herring as usual.  And a far cry from the alleged "guy dies in a motorcycle accident" example people throw out.

Did you watch the 13 minute interview? 30 good questions, few proper answers from the CDC director.

I read the article.  Is your criticism about the point of the article or the CDC in general?

bootlegger10

What is the harm in actually having accurate data?  Why doesn’t the CDC have this data anyway? It seems like an important data point to understand.   

It may not change anything but good to have the right data. 

Spunkie

I wonder when governments will stop letting people cross borders based on proof of when they were last infected?