Viruses / Vaccines

HughFreakingDillon

this could also very well be the mutation that takes over (since transmissibility seems to be the defining factor when discussed, SO FAR), and the mutation that isn't as bad illness-wise, that we just learn to live with, like with influenza. 

HOPEFULLY. 

stuckinline

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/12/05/1059828993/data-vaccine-misinformation-trump-counties-covid-death-rate

Spunkie

Children under 5 are being hospitalized in South Africa in high rates with moderate-to-severe disease.

elvistheking44

tish said:

Children under 5 are being hospitalized in South Africa in high rates with moderate-to-severe disease.

https://www.reuters.com/world/africa/safrican-official-says-number-children-sick-with-covid-19-is-not-cause-panic-2021-12-04/

mickeyrat

tish said:

Children under 5 are being hospitalized in South Africa in high rates with moderate-to-severe disease.

your source?

Spunkie

https://thehill.com/changing-america/well-being/584223-top-south-african-expert-says-omicron-is-surging-among-children

Google it. Take your pick

mickeyrat

so whats your take on the conflicting stories?

Spunkie

https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/news/covid-19/covid-19-omicron-outbreak-children-hospitalised-with-moderate-to-severe-symptoms/

I believe the doctor that spoke to press today.

Spunkie

^ the vaccine makers were told to kick it up a notch quicker today.

'mild' news could be political based on evidence suggesting otherwise?

Spunkie

And they said we could use drugs on younger kids today.... no link... ski trip planning for Xmas...

mickeyrat

  Coronavirus testing for travel is complicated. Here’s some up-to-date guidance.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/travel/travel-covid-pcr-test-tips/2021/12/02/d38ef6fa-4d34-11ec-b73b-a00d6e559a6e_story.html

Spunkie

The latest changes to the cruise line industry will make my April land-sea-BVI bath exploration easier - more vaccines required, less testing (unless it changes yet again). 

Ski hills just up the road, but it's nice to stay a few days. I miss my regular weekends up there. Hotels have doubled their prices. Plus cleaning fees. Kid hits mandatory school, I pump the pj and ski like a scared little old lady:)

lastexitlondon

This shit is all too much for me.

Ledbetterman10

So for absolutely no reason at all, we're told to wear masks again except with in our own personal offices. There's been no mandate by the state or federal government to do so, but the courthouse where I work is making people wear them. Only court-appointed employees like myself though. The sheriff deputy that I walked by when I arrived today doesn't have to wear one. So stupid. 

On another covid note, I got the moderna booster on Friday (all the more reason for me to not give a fuck about masks) and unlike the second dose, I didn't really get sick from this one. Bit of a headache on Saturday morning, but that's all. 

JeBurkhardt

My wife got her Moderna booster Thursday. It kicked her butt for about 24 hours. Friday, she got home and was miserable. Chills, fever, body aches. By Saturday she was feeling much better with just a headache. 

oftenreading

Ledbetterman10 said:

So for absolutely no reason at all, we're told to wear masks again except with in our own personal offices. There's been no mandate by the state or federal government to do so, but the courthouse where I work is making people wear them. Only court-appointed employees like myself though. The sheriff deputy that I walked by when I arrived today doesn't have to wear one. So stupid. 

On another covid note, I got the moderna booster on Friday (all the more reason for me to not give a fuck about masks) and unlike the second dose, I didn't really get sick from this one. Bit of a headache on Saturday morning, but that's all. 

The masking is a wise move. I definitely wouldn't say "for absolutely no reason at all" - there are good scientific reasons for people to be wearing masks again in all public areas. Vaccination is only one level of protection, it doesn't remove the value of masks. 

OnWis97

oftenreading said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

So for absolutely no reason at all, we're told to wear masks again except with in our own personal offices. There's been no mandate by the state or federal government to do so, but the courthouse where I work is making people wear them. Only court-appointed employees like myself though. The sheriff deputy that I walked by when I arrived today doesn't have to wear one. So stupid. 

On another covid note, I got the moderna booster on Friday (all the more reason for me to not give a fuck about masks) and unlike the second dose, I didn't really get sick from this one. Bit of a headache on Saturday morning, but that's all. 

The masking is a wise move. I definitely wouldn't say "for absolutely no reason at all" - there are good scientific reasons for people to be wearing masks again in all public areas. Vaccination is only one level of protection, it doesn't remove the value of masks. 

I agree, though I think the inconsistency is stupid. Why only some employees? It shouldn't be about the employer but about the building. 

Merkin Baller

OnWis97 said:

oftenreading said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

So for absolutely no reason at all, we're told to wear masks again except with in our own personal offices. There's been no mandate by the state or federal government to do so, but the courthouse where I work is making people wear them. Only court-appointed employees like myself though. The sheriff deputy that I walked by when I arrived today doesn't have to wear one. So stupid. 

On another covid note, I got the moderna booster on Friday (all the more reason for me to not give a fuck about masks) and unlike the second dose, I didn't really get sick from this one. Bit of a headache on Saturday morning, but that's all. 

The masking is a wise move. I definitely wouldn't say "for absolutely no reason at all" - there are good scientific reasons for people to be wearing masks again in all public areas. Vaccination is only one level of protection, it doesn't remove the value of masks. 

I agree, though I think the inconsistency is stupid. Why only some employees? It shouldn't be about the employer but about the building. 

Agreed.

I pointed out to my employer recently the absolute stupidity in those of us in the sales offices (who are 100% vaccinated) wearing masks while other employees (including the few vaxx resistors) are going to be wearing them around their chin 24/7 while walking through our offices, and / or if we're not going to be asking guests coming to our facility to wear them. It's futile if everyone isn't wearing them.

Either have the policy or don't.  

oftenreading

OnWis97 said:

oftenreading said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

So for absolutely no reason at all, we're told to wear masks again except with in our own personal offices. There's been no mandate by the state or federal government to do so, but the courthouse where I work is making people wear them. Only court-appointed employees like myself though. The sheriff deputy that I walked by when I arrived today doesn't have to wear one. So stupid. 

On another covid note, I got the moderna booster on Friday (all the more reason for me to not give a fuck about masks) and unlike the second dose, I didn't really get sick from this one. Bit of a headache on Saturday morning, but that's all. 

The masking is a wise move. I definitely wouldn't say "for absolutely no reason at all" - there are good scientific reasons for people to be wearing masks again in all public areas. Vaccination is only one level of protection, it doesn't remove the value of masks. 

I agree, though I think the inconsistency is stupid. Why only some employees? It shouldn't be about the employer but about the building. 

Well , sure it should be consistent but from the post it looks like the building has different employers for different roles and those different employers have made different decisions on requirements, in the absence of an overarching mandate. 

brianlux

Merkin Baller said:

OnWis97 said:

oftenreading said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

So for absolutely no reason at all, we're told to wear masks again except with in our own personal offices. There's been no mandate by the state or federal government to do so, but the courthouse where I work is making people wear them. Only court-appointed employees like myself though. The sheriff deputy that I walked by when I arrived today doesn't have to wear one. So stupid. 

On another covid note, I got the moderna booster on Friday (all the more reason for me to not give a fuck about masks) and unlike the second dose, I didn't really get sick from this one. Bit of a headache on Saturday morning, but that's all. 

The masking is a wise move. I definitely wouldn't say "for absolutely no reason at all" - there are good scientific reasons for people to be wearing masks again in all public areas. Vaccination is only one level of protection, it doesn't remove the value of masks. 

I agree, though I think the inconsistency is stupid. Why only some employees? It shouldn't be about the employer but about the building. 

Agreed.

I pointed out to my employer recently the absolute stupidity in those of us in the sales offices (who are 100% vaccinated) wearing masks while other employees (including the few vaxx resistors) are going to be wearing them around their chin 24/7 while walking through our offices, and / or if we're not going to be asking guests coming to our facility to wear them. It's futile if everyone isn't wearing them.

Either have the policy or don't.  

Totally agree.  Inconsistency is inexcusable.