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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
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    This was a good episode. 
  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,070
    Anyone watch that Utopia show?  I'm just watching now and I can see where the conspiracy theorists got their ideas from.
    What service is it streaming on?
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  • static111 said:
    Anyone watch that Utopia show?  I'm just watching now and I can see where the conspiracy theorists got their ideas from.
    What service is it streaming on?
    Amazon Prime.  Highly recommend watching this.  Warning, as it is disturbing and heavy at times.
  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,070
    static111 said:
    Anyone watch that Utopia show?  I'm just watching now and I can see where the conspiracy theorists got their ideas from.
    What service is it streaming on?
    Amazon Prime.  Highly recommend watching this.  Warning, as it is disturbing and heavy at times.
    Damn I don't do Amazon
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  • nicknyr15
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  • static111 said:
    static111 said:
    Anyone watch that Utopia show?  I'm just watching now and I can see where the conspiracy theorists got their ideas from.
    What service is it streaming on?
    Amazon Prime.  Highly recommend watching this.  Warning, as it is disturbing and heavy at times.
    Damn I don't do Amazon
    Borrow someone's account if you can.
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,172
    bbiggs said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Haven’t been in this thread in a long time so forgive me if this has been discussed.   Thoughts on the booster shot?  Yeah or nay?

    I don't think there will be an option for much longer, at least not if you want to keep your "fully vaxxed" status.  I was just in the same boat.  "Do I need it?"  "Do I get it?"  And then I got hit with the real deal, so the decision was made for me.  Unfortunately when (not if) it becomes required for "fully vaxxed" status, my fresh natural immunity will mean nothing to our government though, which I've always felt was flawed thinking.
    your fresh natural immunity will help you for about six months....keep that in mind

    a shot would have been much more pleasant
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  • bbiggs
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    bbiggs said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Haven’t been in this thread in a long time so forgive me if this has been discussed.   Thoughts on the booster shot?  Yeah or nay?

    I don't think there will be an option for much longer, at least not if you want to keep your "fully vaxxed" status.  I was just in the same boat.  "Do I need it?"  "Do I get it?"  And then I got hit with the real deal, so the decision was made for me.  Unfortunately when (not if) it becomes required for "fully vaxxed" status, my fresh natural immunity will mean nothing to our government though, which I've always felt was flawed thinking.
    your fresh natural immunity will help you for about six months....keep that in mind

    a shot would have been much more pleasant
    Yes.  Not getting Covid after being vaccinated would have been the preferred option.  Didn't work that way for me unfortunately.
    I do realize the natural immunity lasts in the 6 month range, which is the same as the vaccines.  So in my eyes, I should not be required to get a booster for 6 months to retain my fully vaxxed status. 

  • Spunkie
    Spunkie i come from downtown. Posts: 7,095
    edited December 2021
    ^not necessarily true anymore...



    Link to yesterday's real world study suggesting 2.4 times icreased transmission - not yet peer reviewed to drive policy

     https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.11.11.21266068v2


    This evidence refutes your claim, Gern, that natural infection will keep you safe for six months.

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  • bbiggs
    bbiggs Posts: 6,964
    ^Right.  If the vaccines and natural immunity are both useless to the new variant than that is a whole different topic entirely.
  • Spunkie
    Spunkie i come from downtown. Posts: 7,095

    Natural immunity - likely
    Vacinne induced t.b.a.
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  • dankind
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    brianlux said:
    OK, now the serious response.  Please, just be kind to each other.  There is so much pain and shit in this world already.  Or take your anger out on me.  I don't care.  I have broad shoulders.
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  • brianlux
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    dankind said:
    brianlux said:
    OK, now the serious response.  Please, just be kind to each other.  There is so much pain and shit in this world already.  Or take your anger out on me.  I don't care.  I have broad shoulders.
    Kiss my ass, Brian! You suck! :wink:

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  • dankind
    dankind Posts: 20,841
    brianlux said:
    dankind said:
    brianlux said:
    OK, now the serious response.  Please, just be kind to each other.  There is so much pain and shit in this world already.  Or take your anger out on me.  I don't care.  I have broad shoulders.
    Kiss my ass, Brian! You suck! :wink:

    Awwwwwwwwwwwe shucks!  I am oddly flattered.
    :rofl:
    Good! Now go pound sand, you ignoramus!
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662
    dankind said:
    brianlux said:
    dankind said:
    brianlux said:
    OK, now the serious response.  Please, just be kind to each other.  There is so much pain and shit in this world already.  Or take your anger out on me.  I don't care.  I have broad shoulders.
    Kiss my ass, Brian! You suck! :wink:

    Awwwwwwwwwwwe shucks!  I am oddly flattered.
    :rofl:
    Good! Now go pound sand, you ignoramus!

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  • Zod
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    That statistic seems weird a few posts up. It ranks how many people got reinfected vs the # of people that got covid overall.  It seems like a fairly small ratio, like only a small percentage of people who got covid, got it a 2nd time.  35,000 vs 2.7 million seems kind of low?

    I guess the other thing with Omicron will be how severe it is.  Is it more or less severe than the current strains.   It could be more contagious, but maybe we'll luck out and it'll be less lethal?
  • Spunkie
    Spunkie i come from downtown. Posts: 7,095

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    I could swear he's trying to talk to me 
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,360
      Most coronavirus vaccines work as boosters, with higher antibody levels from Pfizer and Moderna, study finds

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/12/03/covid-vaccines-booster-combinations-study/



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  • mickeyrat
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     Omicron coronavirus variant three times more likely to cause reinfection than delta, S. Africa study says

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2021/12/03/omicron-covid-variant-delta-reinfection/

     

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  • Poncier
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    Zod said:
    That statistic seems weird a few posts up. It ranks how many people got reinfected vs the # of people that got covid overall.  It seems like a fairly small ratio, like only a small percentage of people who got covid, got it a 2nd time.  35,000 vs 2.7 million seems kind of low?

    1.3%. Very small number.
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