psst...6/15/2021

ryanphishes

False_Belief said:

ryanphishes said:

False_Belief said:

ryanphishes said:

If you are that big a collector that you have to have clear vinyl, then I bet you can afford it on ebay or sell / trade something you have to find one.

Hell of a leap in logic here!  I think you underestimate how selective some of us are in terms of spending our hard earned on this band 

It's not a logic thing.  It's a limited edition thing.  Limited edition means not everyone will get it.  If you collect limited stuff and you MUST have the clear vinyl, you can buy it on the secondary market or trade something else you have that you don't care about as much.  

Do you care about all of your limited edition/PJ merch equally?

I find that hard to believe, but it's not a matter of logic.

If you're so selective in your purchases, would you really have bought this yesterday, immediately, when it said it is coming out on 8/13...or would you have thought about just picking it up at a store to save on shipping and the time it takes Ten Club to ship things?

People are understandably upset that they missed it, but people would also be complaining if they bought it and it was available at Target, like purple Ten was.

It's the internet, and people will complain no matter what.  Like I said, there's no way to make a limited edition record for all 10 club members.

I ended up being able to place an order through that merchbar site, and they cancelled it.  That's worth complaining about IMO, but it's also not the end of my world.

No, it absolutely is misplaced logic on your part.   You've incorrectly assumed that I or anyone else who wanted to own a copy of this particular record has the means to just go and buy one at an inflated price from the secondary market.    I literally just told you that some of us are selective and don't rush to buy any old 'limited edition' release.   

Of course I'd have jumped at this yesterday - there was a very clear implication that the clear variant was exclusive to 10C.  This fact makes me no less 'selective' in my purchasing choices. I have no interest in owning another black vinyl general release copy.    I don't see why this is so hard to understand...

Sorry.  I get what you're saying.  I collect stuff and am selective as well.  We disagree, and that's okay.  I didn't intend to imply you had the means to buy whatever you want and could've stated things better.

People collect differently and use different reasoning.  If I wanted this or something bad enough, I would consider selling something that I don't care about as much, especially since some collectors do buy multiples of things to keep.  I often buy 2 copies of a record, one to spin and one to keep sealed.  If I really wanted this, I'd consider selling/trading something I have like an extra record or a poster sitting in a flatfile.  I picked up a second copy of backspacer when I saw one a few months ago, knowing it is out of print and that maybe I could trade it for something I can't afford or miss out on.

That's what I meant, but I guess it's also just me.  I shouldn't have generalized that anyone would do that or assume that you have things you'd part with for this.

Zod

JBob87 said:

The only thing about this that really bothers me is giving a heads up on social media / here before the email goes out. The email goes out to ALL members. The sale should be timed to begin a set period of time after the email goes out.

The expectation that members have to sit around F5'ing this message board...Facebook/IG...and their emails to have a shot at things is ridiculous.

Or wait to post it on FB until after the email disseminiates.    It seemed to be for sale for a bit after I got the email, but once it showed up in my FB feed the demand grew exponentially.

I'm not sure I believe in the wait for X time for it to go on sale, because we're crazy, and we'll probably crash the website.   But waiting an hour for the email to disseminate before posting on social media wouldn't hurt.   Also not sure how much that would do, because people were also posting about it in the social media groups.

on2legs

JBob87 said:

The only thing about this that really bothers me is giving a heads up on social media / here before the email goes out. The email goes out to ALL members. The sale should be timed to begin a set period of time after the email goes out.

The expectation that members have to sit around F5'ing this message board...Facebook/IG...and their emails to have a shot at things is ridiculous.

It’s been a practice for a very long time that Santos gives a heads up here when stuff drops and it’s usually at 1pm eastern time. 

JBob87

on2legs said:

JBob87 said:

The only thing about this that really bothers me is giving a heads up on social media / here before the email goes out. The email goes out to ALL members. The sale should be timed to begin a set period of time after the email goes out.

The expectation that members have to sit around F5'ing this message board...Facebook/IG...and their emails to have a shot at things is ridiculous.

It’s been a practice for a very long time that Santos gives a heads up here when stuff drops and it’s usually at 1pm eastern time. 

I understand that, in my opinion it is an unfair practice. All members should have the same shot, not just those who can F5 this board. It's not like it drops at 12 noon exactly every day...to actually do this you'd have to sit here from at least 11:30-12:30 if not a wider window.

hihobibo

on2legs said:

JBob87 said:

The only thing about this that really bothers me is giving a heads up on social media / here before the email goes out. The email goes out to ALL members. The sale should be timed to begin a set period of time after the email goes out.

The expectation that members have to sit around F5'ing this message board...Facebook/IG...and their emails to have a shot at things is ridiculous.

It’s been a practice for a very long time that Santos gives a heads up here when stuff drops and it’s usually at 1pm eastern time. 

Shhhhh. But now that that one is out of the bag, let's keep the other drop time a secret.

ryanphishes

https://www.amazon.com/No-Code-Pearl-Jam/dp/B096TL5PL9?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=&linkCode=sl1&tag=coppeddeals03-20&linkId=49a59042413aa8ade6a2f1a8672157e4&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl

kramer73

ryanphishes said:

https://www.amazon.com/No-Code-Pearl-Jam/dp/B096TL5PL9?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=&linkCode=sl1&tag=coppeddeals03-20&linkId=49a59042413aa8ade6a2f1a8672157e4&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl

Well, that does say 2 lps. (Discs).

Kearn5y

kramer73 said:

ryanphishes said:

https://www.amazon.com/No-Code-Pearl-Jam/dp/B096TL5PL9?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=&linkCode=sl1&tag=coppeddeals03-20&linkId=49a59042413aa8ade6a2f1a8672157e4&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl

Well, that does say 2 lps. (Discs).

Also says 1 below the tracklist

Snowball II

ryanphishes said:

Anyone who thinks they should have pressed enough of these for every Ten Club member doesn't realize how many Ten Club members there are and that only a fraction collect records, which would leave them with thousands or tens of thousands of extra records.

I didn't get one.  I'll just get the black vinyl on 8/13.  If you are that big a collector that you have to have clear vinyl, then I bet you can afford it on ebay or sell / trade something you have to find one.

jammerx

A historical example on pre-order communication. Talk about burying the headline.

Also bizarre to realize the date on this.  Is there something special about June 15th?

June 15, 2004
For Immediate Release:

Pearl Jam To Release
“Live At Benaroya Hall October 22nd 2003”
First-Ever Full Length Acoustic Performance

Album To Be Released At Retail July 27th

June 15, 2004
For Immediate Release:

Pearl Jam To Release
“Live At Benaroya Hall October 22nd 2003”
First-Ever Full Length Acoustic Performance

Album To Be Released At Retail July 27th

Pre-Orders Available at www.pearljam.com Beginning June 21 With Band
Poster for $13

Seattle - Twelve years ago, Pearl Jam performed a rare acoustic show
for MTV as part of the “Unplugged” series. Although the performance
was never officially released, it continues to be one of the band's
most bootlegged shows. On July 27th, 2004, Pearl Jam fans can satiate
their acoustic appetites with the band's first ever full-length,
mostly acoustic live show on a double disc CD entitled “Live at
Benaroya Hall October 22, 2003.”

”Live at Benaroya Hall October 22, 2003” will feature the band's 2+
hour, sold-out performance on October 22, 2003 at the intimate
2,500-seat venue which marked the first live performance of Pearl
Jam’s Golden Globe nominated song “Man of the Hour” as well as
acoustic covers of Bob Dylan’s “Masters of War”, the Ramones’ “I
Believe in Miracles” and Johnny Cash’s “25 Minutes to Go.” The full
set list from the evening follows:

Pre-orders for the CD will be available at www.pearljam.com beginning
June 21 for $13USD. Only CDs ordered through the Pearl Jam Ten Club
will include a special poster featuring a photo of the band taken at
the Benaroya show by renowned photographer Charles Peterson. A special
limited edition vinyl box set will also be available through the

band's website only and will also include the poster.

jammerx

If I remember correctly, we somehow figured out that it would go live at midnight PST.  I was east coast at the time and that meant staying up until 3am and playing the F5 game while the site choked.  We then sat on our hands with no news until September 23rd to be told that they would finally be shipping September 27th.

JeBurkhardt

ryanphishes said:

https://www.amazon.com/No-Code-Pearl-Jam/dp/B096TL5PL9?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=&linkCode=sl1&tag=coppeddeals03-20&linkId=49a59042413aa8ade6a2f1a8672157e4&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl

Probably not the point of your post, but I will never pre order vinyl from Amazon again. I pre ordered the 3 Uncle Tupelo MOV releases in January, only to have them wait until late March to tell me that they were cancelling my order because they couldn't get them, but charging me $9.99 x 3 for digital downloads of the albums. (When I pre ordered it came with a free download)  After spending some time with their customer service people, they eventually refunded the cost of the downloads. 

KM73780

There’s still a Yield reissue available in the shop and the opening paragraph is identical (specifically remastered blah blah original packaging yada yada)

jammerx

When I worked at Amazon 10 years ago we could look up the number of copies that were coming in from the supplier vs. the number of customer orders.  It was always really sad to see how many people were going to be disappointed for limited releases.  To a pretty high threshold Amazon would happily take customers money and hope that they could procure additional inventory. 

rb173565

ho hum usual story, sold out before i even hear about it. looks like some flipper will be getting my cash...... AGAIN

RS65573

Can someone tell me when the bat went up, and for how long?

NeilJam

jammerx said:

If I remember correctly, we somehow figured out that it would go live at midnight PST.  I was east coast at the time and that meant staying up until 3am and playing the F5 game while the site choked.  We then sat on our hands with no news until September 23rd to be told that they would finally be shipping September 27th.

Many were ready to order that box set immediately, but there was less fervor for vinyl then. It was actually still available the following morning.

Disappointed to miss the clear vinyl version of my favorite album. I have four of the original release so I skipped the 2016 pressing, but may get the regular release of this one. Which photo set will come with this and will they will be the same size? I still need set C from the original group.

As with the last pressing of Yield, I'm surprised it was not expanded to two discs. I still wish they would revisit the deluxe album box sets and give us a No Code/Yield combo set.

karl_chihiro

NeilJam said:

jammerx said:

If I remember correctly, we somehow figured out that it would go live at midnight PST.  I was east coast at the time and that meant staying up until 3am and playing the F5 game while the site choked.  We then sat on our hands with no news until September 23rd to be told that they would finally be shipping September 27th.

Many were ready to order that box set immediately, but there was less fervor for vinyl then. It was actually still available the following morning.

Disappointed to miss the clear vinyl version of my favorite album. I have four of the original release so I skipped the 2016 pressing, but may get the regular release of this one. Which photo set will come with this and will they will be the same size? I still need set C from the original group.

As with the last pressing of Yield, I'm surprised it was not expanded to two discs. I still wish they would revisit the deluxe album box sets and give us a No Code/Yield combo set.

NeilJam said:

jammerx said:

If I remember correctly, we somehow figured out that it would go live at midnight PST.  I was east coast at the time and that meant staying up until 3am and playing the F5 game while the site choked.  We then sat on our hands with no news until September 23rd to be told that they would finally be shipping September 27th.

Many were ready to order that box set immediately, but there was less fervor for vinyl then. It was actually still available the following morning.

Disappointed to miss the clear vinyl version of my favorite album. I have four of the original release so I skipped the 2016 pressing, but may get the regular release of this one. Which photo set will come with this and will they will be the same size? I still need set C from the original group.

As with the last pressing of Yield, I'm surprised it was not expanded to two discs. I still wish they would revisit the deluxe album box sets and give us a No Code/Yield combo set.

This.

eddiec

I get the frustration with missing out on this, but the black version is coming out at the same time, so if you don't currently own No Code, you will this summer.

I think having exclusive items, (especially with a fan base that loves its collecting), is a fun idea. Some times you get one, but more than often you miss out. At the end of the day you won't be deprived of the music, you'll just be looking at a different color. I collect a bit, and I've missed a lot of stuff. I've also had opportunities to buy items that I thought, people won't go crazy for this, only to toss it from my cart and realize later that it has sold out and its value has skyrocketed. But that's part of the excitement of collecting, and sometimes it is worth evaluating what you have, and seeking out trades for something you desire more.

That's just me.

Jimmydean55

karl_chihiro said:

NeilJam said:

As with the last pressing of Yield, I'm surprised it was not expanded to two discs. I still wish they would revisit the deluxe album box sets and give us a No Code/Yield combo set.

This.

Wasn’t there an interview with Stone not that long ago where he mentioned a No Code/Yield box set and he was hopeful that would happen?