Cancelled!

Merkin Baller

brianlux said:

mace1229 said:

Merkin Baller said:

mace1229 said:

Merkin Baller said:

mace1229 said:

Bentleyspop said:

brianlux said:

PJPOWER said:

tempo_n_groove said:

PJPOWER said:

hedonist said:

PJPOWER said:

hedonist said:

I don’t think social media itself is the issue; it’s the people using it.

The self-absorption, the hate, the gaffes, the sometime-goodness, the need to be seen or known for anything - that already exists. Social media simply facilitates its communication (and the news mistakes this for actual news, but that’s another story).

That’s not 100% true.  Social media, Facebook specifically, uses AI software that creates algorithms to manipulate people’s accounts to focus on certain topics...the ones that are going to most effectively elicit an emotional response and general clicks.  It’s disgusting.

I imagine a bunch of other companies do this too. Hell, my email account is still bombarded by ads for a litter box we purchased two months ago!

As to the amplification issue mentioned, I want those with whom I disagree to speak as loudly and freely as those with whom I do concur. That I might be disgusted by another’s words or actions isn’t worth that sacrifice, to me. 

That’s the thing, though, you will see less apposing views and more content that aligns with what you are interested in.  Trump supporters get tied to more and more Trump content and less pro-Biden content and so on.  

If you haven’t seen it yet, Social Dilemma on Netflix explains how the program works better than I can. 

I see almost ZERO pro trump posts now after the election. No more links, memes, or posts.  It’s crazy because I’m still friends with people but I just don’t get in the algorithms?

I think a lot of Trump related content is being filtered on most popular platforms and pro-Trump groups are being taken down.  That, and a lot of the hardcore Trump supporters that were spreading false info and memes simply jumped ship to that “other” platform (that is now pretty much gone).  I think many of the hardcore followers are still out there, just propping themselves up on other media options.
Also, if you never “liked” any of their posts or just ignored them, then they probably didn’t get labeled as one of your interests. 

Yes, they are out there, for sure.  I think a lot of them might be "going underground" so to speak.  This is just a wild guess, but I wonder how many are a bit paranoid that since so many 1/6 rioter have been imprisoned and/ or taken to court, they are a bit afraid of being targeted as extremest (which many are). 

For much of the latter part of 2020 and 2021, here in strongly-leaning El Dorado County, California, I frequently saw many Trump trucks driving around with their huge Trump flags waving from their antennas or poles attached to the bed of their pick up trucks.  I'm seeing far fewer of them.  They seem to have lowered their flag and instead are flying American flags from their homes.  That's ironic because Trump supporters who put on a show of being patriotic are being totally contradictory. 

Patriotic supporters like these guys...

So you’re saying displaying the trump flag is the same as piling up a bunch of guys in the back and waving (probably illegal fully automatic) assault rifles around?
I think those caravans were obnoxious. I think I only crossed one once or twice, but a flag is not an illegal firearm.

If trump supporters didn’t want to be compared to terrorists, they probably shouldn’t have acted like terrorists these last few years. 

Then show a picture of them storming the Capitol or acting like a terrorist, not waving a flag.
But seeing how that post was from October, it obviously wasn’t about storming the Capitol. It literally is comparing waving a flag of the opposite party to waving illegal guns.
I think those caravans were annoying. But this comparison is just lame.

& trump supporters stormed the Michigan capitol with their guns back in the spring. 

https://www.businessinsider.com/michigan-open-carry-laws-legal-protesters-guns-at-state-capitol-2020-5

Boo hoo, people who act like terrorists are being compared to terrorists. 

Again, you’re judging 74 million people based on the actions of very few. Almost no one supported the storming of the Capitol or the plan in Michigan.
I don’t recall people calling all Biden/Obama supporters terrorists when 1 guy shot up a congressional baseball game. That was clearly a left-wing terrorist act. But we all recognize he represents just a tiny fraction. 

Many here are quick to judge everyone who didn’t support Biden and call them all terrorists and racist based on the actions of a relatively small portion. All 74 million of them. They are diving the country just as much as Trump did by continuing to do so.
The purpose of that meme by comparing a trump flag to an illegal assault rifle is comparing all trump voters to radical terrorists. Even the 99.99% who were against the storming and kidnapping.

"Almost no one supported the storming of the Capitol"

Surely you're joking?  Can we start with the ex POTUS and go from there?

43 republican senators offered tacit support of it yesterday. 

brianlux

Merkin Baller said:

brianlux said:

mace1229 said:

Merkin Baller said:

mace1229 said:

Merkin Baller said:

mace1229 said:

Bentleyspop said:

brianlux said:

PJPOWER said:

tempo_n_groove said:

PJPOWER said:

hedonist said:

PJPOWER said:

hedonist said:

I don’t think social media itself is the issue; it’s the people using it.

The self-absorption, the hate, the gaffes, the sometime-goodness, the need to be seen or known for anything - that already exists. Social media simply facilitates its communication (and the news mistakes this for actual news, but that’s another story).

That’s not 100% true.  Social media, Facebook specifically, uses AI software that creates algorithms to manipulate people’s accounts to focus on certain topics...the ones that are going to most effectively elicit an emotional response and general clicks.  It’s disgusting.

I imagine a bunch of other companies do this too. Hell, my email account is still bombarded by ads for a litter box we purchased two months ago!

As to the amplification issue mentioned, I want those with whom I disagree to speak as loudly and freely as those with whom I do concur. That I might be disgusted by another’s words or actions isn’t worth that sacrifice, to me. 

That’s the thing, though, you will see less apposing views and more content that aligns with what you are interested in.  Trump supporters get tied to more and more Trump content and less pro-Biden content and so on.  

If you haven’t seen it yet, Social Dilemma on Netflix explains how the program works better than I can. 

I see almost ZERO pro trump posts now after the election. No more links, memes, or posts.  It’s crazy because I’m still friends with people but I just don’t get in the algorithms?

I think a lot of Trump related content is being filtered on most popular platforms and pro-Trump groups are being taken down.  That, and a lot of the hardcore Trump supporters that were spreading false info and memes simply jumped ship to that “other” platform (that is now pretty much gone).  I think many of the hardcore followers are still out there, just propping themselves up on other media options.
Also, if you never “liked” any of their posts or just ignored them, then they probably didn’t get labeled as one of your interests. 

Yes, they are out there, for sure.  I think a lot of them might be "going underground" so to speak.  This is just a wild guess, but I wonder how many are a bit paranoid that since so many 1/6 rioter have been imprisoned and/ or taken to court, they are a bit afraid of being targeted as extremest (which many are). 

For much of the latter part of 2020 and 2021, here in strongly-leaning El Dorado County, California, I frequently saw many Trump trucks driving around with their huge Trump flags waving from their antennas or poles attached to the bed of their pick up trucks.  I'm seeing far fewer of them.  They seem to have lowered their flag and instead are flying American flags from their homes.  That's ironic because Trump supporters who put on a show of being patriotic are being totally contradictory. 

Patriotic supporters like these guys...

So you’re saying displaying the trump flag is the same as piling up a bunch of guys in the back and waving (probably illegal fully automatic) assault rifles around?
I think those caravans were obnoxious. I think I only crossed one once or twice, but a flag is not an illegal firearm.

If trump supporters didn’t want to be compared to terrorists, they probably shouldn’t have acted like terrorists these last few years. 

Then show a picture of them storming the Capitol or acting like a terrorist, not waving a flag.
But seeing how that post was from October, it obviously wasn’t about storming the Capitol. It literally is comparing waving a flag of the opposite party to waving illegal guns.
I think those caravans were annoying. But this comparison is just lame.

& trump supporters stormed the Michigan capitol with their guns back in the spring. 

https://www.businessinsider.com/michigan-open-carry-laws-legal-protesters-guns-at-state-capitol-2020-5

Boo hoo, people who act like terrorists are being compared to terrorists. 

Again, you’re judging 74 million people based on the actions of very few. Almost no one supported the storming of the Capitol or the plan in Michigan.
I don’t recall people calling all Biden/Obama supporters terrorists when 1 guy shot up a congressional baseball game. That was clearly a left-wing terrorist act. But we all recognize he represents just a tiny fraction. 

Many here are quick to judge everyone who didn’t support Biden and call them all terrorists and racist based on the actions of a relatively small portion. All 74 million of them. They are diving the country just as much as Trump did by continuing to do so.
The purpose of that meme by comparing a trump flag to an illegal assault rifle is comparing all trump voters to radical terrorists. Even the 99.99% who were against the storming and kidnapping.

"Almost no one supported the storming of the Capitol"

Surely you're joking?  Can we start with the ex POTUS and go from there?

43 republican senators offered tacit support of it yesterday. 

This too!

mickeyrat

good read

https://www.patheos.com/blogs/jaysondbradley/2021/02/cancel-culture/?utm_source=share_bar

Lerxst1992

Merkin Baller said:

brianlux said:

mace1229 said:

Merkin Baller said:

mace1229 said:

Merkin Baller said:

mace1229 said:

Bentleyspop said:

brianlux said:

PJPOWER said:

tempo_n_groove said:

PJPOWER said:

hedonist said:

PJPOWER said:

hedonist said:

I don’t think social media itself is the issue; it’s the people using it.

The self-absorption, the hate, the gaffes, the sometime-goodness, the need to be seen or known for anything - that already exists. Social media simply facilitates its communication (and the news mistakes this for actual news, but that’s another story).

That’s not 100% true.  Social media, Facebook specifically, uses AI software that creates algorithms to manipulate people’s accounts to focus on certain topics...the ones that are going to most effectively elicit an emotional response and general clicks.  It’s disgusting.

I imagine a bunch of other companies do this too. Hell, my email account is still bombarded by ads for a litter box we purchased two months ago!

As to the amplification issue mentioned, I want those with whom I disagree to speak as loudly and freely as those with whom I do concur. That I might be disgusted by another’s words or actions isn’t worth that sacrifice, to me. 

That’s the thing, though, you will see less apposing views and more content that aligns with what you are interested in.  Trump supporters get tied to more and more Trump content and less pro-Biden content and so on.  

If you haven’t seen it yet, Social Dilemma on Netflix explains how the program works better than I can. 

I see almost ZERO pro trump posts now after the election. No more links, memes, or posts.  It’s crazy because I’m still friends with people but I just don’t get in the algorithms?

I think a lot of Trump related content is being filtered on most popular platforms and pro-Trump groups are being taken down.  That, and a lot of the hardcore Trump supporters that were spreading false info and memes simply jumped ship to that “other” platform (that is now pretty much gone).  I think many of the hardcore followers are still out there, just propping themselves up on other media options.
Also, if you never “liked” any of their posts or just ignored them, then they probably didn’t get labeled as one of your interests. 

Yes, they are out there, for sure.  I think a lot of them might be "going underground" so to speak.  This is just a wild guess, but I wonder how many are a bit paranoid that since so many 1/6 rioter have been imprisoned and/ or taken to court, they are a bit afraid of being targeted as extremest (which many are). 

For much of the latter part of 2020 and 2021, here in strongly-leaning El Dorado County, California, I frequently saw many Trump trucks driving around with their huge Trump flags waving from their antennas or poles attached to the bed of their pick up trucks.  I'm seeing far fewer of them.  They seem to have lowered their flag and instead are flying American flags from their homes.  That's ironic because Trump supporters who put on a show of being patriotic are being totally contradictory. 

Patriotic supporters like these guys...

So you’re saying displaying the trump flag is the same as piling up a bunch of guys in the back and waving (probably illegal fully automatic) assault rifles around?
I think those caravans were obnoxious. I think I only crossed one once or twice, but a flag is not an illegal firearm.

If trump supporters didn’t want to be compared to terrorists, they probably shouldn’t have acted like terrorists these last few years. 

Then show a picture of them storming the Capitol or acting like a terrorist, not waving a flag.
But seeing how that post was from October, it obviously wasn’t about storming the Capitol. It literally is comparing waving a flag of the opposite party to waving illegal guns.
I think those caravans were annoying. But this comparison is just lame.

& trump supporters stormed the Michigan capitol with their guns back in the spring. 

https://www.businessinsider.com/michigan-open-carry-laws-legal-protesters-guns-at-state-capitol-2020-5

Boo hoo, people who act like terrorists are being compared to terrorists. 

Again, you’re judging 74 million people based on the actions of very few. Almost no one supported the storming of the Capitol or the plan in Michigan.
I don’t recall people calling all Biden/Obama supporters terrorists when 1 guy shot up a congressional baseball game. That was clearly a left-wing terrorist act. But we all recognize he represents just a tiny fraction. 

Many here are quick to judge everyone who didn’t support Biden and call them all terrorists and racist based on the actions of a relatively small portion. All 74 million of them. They are diving the country just as much as Trump did by continuing to do so.
The purpose of that meme by comparing a trump flag to an illegal assault rifle is comparing all trump voters to radical terrorists. Even the 99.99% who were against the storming and kidnapping.

"Almost no one supported the storming of the Capitol"

Surely you're joking?  Can we start with the ex POTUS and go from there?

43 republican senators offered tacit support of it yesterday. 

The sad truth is it only took 26 republican senators to acquit, because that’s how many it takes to control the caucus. That’s why the McConnell faction voted to acquit. Had he and his loyalists voted guilty, we would be looking at Senate R Leader Cruz today.

Out of My Mind and Time

F Me In The Brain

Or, an actress runs her mouth about personal politics.....instead of just acting.  

Out of My Mind and Time

Sure. And LeBron should just shut up and dribble right?

And Pedro?

mickeyrat

Out of My Mind and Time said:

Sure. And LeBron should just shut up and dribble right?

did the government try to stifle her speech?

no? oh thats right, it was a publically traded company looking out for their bottom line and their shareholders and we all know that shareholdrs are the most important people on the planet so , sorry Gina dont let the door hit ya......

F Me In The Brain

Out of My Mind and Time said:

Sure. And LeBron should just shut up and dribble right?

No, not at all.  However, be prepared for your employer to take exception to any opinions you share. 

If this is important to this actress then by all means -- stick up for the people she feels like she needs to stick up for.

Everyone can do that -- the idea that she is protected by free speech, as your cartoon implies, is misguided.  Nobody is saying she should go to jail or be fined...free speech protects the right to an opinion.  Does not mean your employer needs to accept you making this opinion public.  Up to them. 

People can also boycott Disney if they feel so aggrieved.

F Me In The Brain

Also -- that website is total dogshit.  This is my opinion.

Hobbes

Disney Death Star is Communist China? We've certainly come a long way since McCarthy-era Hollywood blacklists. Gina Carano is no Dalton Trumbo, that's for damn sure. Free Speech? Her speech is laden with conspiracy theories, transphobia, and denigration of culture and religion. It's sad that people think they can say anything without consequence.

JeBurkhardt

tempo_n_groove said:

PJPOWER said:

hedonist said:

PJPOWER said:

hedonist said:

I don’t think social media itself is the issue; it’s the people using it.

The self-absorption, the hate, the gaffes, the sometime-goodness, the need to be seen or known for anything - that already exists. Social media simply facilitates its communication (and the news mistakes this for actual news, but that’s another story).

That’s not 100% true.  Social media, Facebook specifically, uses AI software that creates algorithms to manipulate people’s accounts to focus on certain topics...the ones that are going to most effectively elicit an emotional response and general clicks.  It’s disgusting.

I imagine a bunch of other companies do this too. Hell, my email account is still bombarded by ads for a litter box we purchased two months ago!

As to the amplification issue mentioned, I want those with whom I disagree to speak as loudly and freely as those with whom I do concur. That I might be disgusted by another’s words or actions isn’t worth that sacrifice, to me. 

That’s the thing, though, you will see less apposing views and more content that aligns with what you are interested in.  Trump supporters get tied to more and more Trump content and less pro-Biden content and so on.  

If you haven’t seen it yet, Social Dilemma on Netflix explains how the program works better than I can. 

I see almost ZERO pro trump posts now after the election. No more links, memes, or posts.  It’s crazy because I’m still friends with people but I just don’t get in the algorithms?

Consider yourself lucky. I have had non stop stuff on mine about the impeachment and Trump.  

mickeyrat

F Me In The Brain said:

Also -- that website is total dogshit.  This is my opinion.

just noted the chinese flag on the "death star" THAT is fucking hilarious

F Me In The Brain

mickeyrat said:

F Me In The Brain said:

Also -- that website is total dogshit.  This is my opinion.

just noted the chinese flag on the "death star" THAT is fucking hilarious

Yeah I almost feel badly that I gave that website a click but it was pretty funny just to scan.  They are still very upset about school names changing in CA.    

mace1229

brianlux said:

mace1229 said:

Merkin Baller said:

mace1229 said:

Merkin Baller said:

mace1229 said:

Bentleyspop said:

brianlux said:

PJPOWER said:

tempo_n_groove said:

PJPOWER said:

hedonist said:

PJPOWER said:

hedonist said:

I don’t think social media itself is the issue; it’s the people using it.

The self-absorption, the hate, the gaffes, the sometime-goodness, the need to be seen or known for anything - that already exists. Social media simply facilitates its communication (and the news mistakes this for actual news, but that’s another story).

That’s not 100% true.  Social media, Facebook specifically, uses AI software that creates algorithms to manipulate people’s accounts to focus on certain topics...the ones that are going to most effectively elicit an emotional response and general clicks.  It’s disgusting.

I imagine a bunch of other companies do this too. Hell, my email account is still bombarded by ads for a litter box we purchased two months ago!

As to the amplification issue mentioned, I want those with whom I disagree to speak as loudly and freely as those with whom I do concur. That I might be disgusted by another’s words or actions isn’t worth that sacrifice, to me. 

That’s the thing, though, you will see less apposing views and more content that aligns with what you are interested in.  Trump supporters get tied to more and more Trump content and less pro-Biden content and so on.  

If you haven’t seen it yet, Social Dilemma on Netflix explains how the program works better than I can. 

I see almost ZERO pro trump posts now after the election. No more links, memes, or posts.  It’s crazy because I’m still friends with people but I just don’t get in the algorithms?

I think a lot of Trump related content is being filtered on most popular platforms and pro-Trump groups are being taken down.  That, and a lot of the hardcore Trump supporters that were spreading false info and memes simply jumped ship to that “other” platform (that is now pretty much gone).  I think many of the hardcore followers are still out there, just propping themselves up on other media options.
Also, if you never “liked” any of their posts or just ignored them, then they probably didn’t get labeled as one of your interests. 

Yes, they are out there, for sure.  I think a lot of them might be "going underground" so to speak.  This is just a wild guess, but I wonder how many are a bit paranoid that since so many 1/6 rioter have been imprisoned and/ or taken to court, they are a bit afraid of being targeted as extremest (which many are). 

For much of the latter part of 2020 and 2021, here in strongly-leaning El Dorado County, California, I frequently saw many Trump trucks driving around with their huge Trump flags waving from their antennas or poles attached to the bed of their pick up trucks.  I'm seeing far fewer of them.  They seem to have lowered their flag and instead are flying American flags from their homes.  That's ironic because Trump supporters who put on a show of being patriotic are being totally contradictory. 

Patriotic supporters like these guys...

So you’re saying displaying the trump flag is the same as piling up a bunch of guys in the back and waving (probably illegal fully automatic) assault rifles around?
I think those caravans were obnoxious. I think I only crossed one once or twice, but a flag is not an illegal firearm.

If trump supporters didn’t want to be compared to terrorists, they probably shouldn’t have acted like terrorists these last few years. 

Then show a picture of them storming the Capitol or acting like a terrorist, not waving a flag.
But seeing how that post was from October, it obviously wasn’t about storming the Capitol. It literally is comparing waving a flag of the opposite party to waving illegal guns.
I think those caravans were annoying. But this comparison is just lame.

& trump supporters stormed the Michigan capitol with their guns back in the spring. 

https://www.businessinsider.com/michigan-open-carry-laws-legal-protesters-guns-at-state-capitol-2020-5

Boo hoo, people who act like terrorists are being compared to terrorists. 

Again, you’re judging 74 million people based on the actions of very few. Almost no one supported the storming of the Capitol or the plan in Michigan.
I don’t recall people calling all Biden/Obama supporters terrorists when 1 guy shot up a congressional baseball game. That was clearly a left-wing terrorist act. But we all recognize he represents just a tiny fraction. 

Many here are quick to judge everyone who didn’t support Biden and call them all terrorists and racist based on the actions of a relatively small portion. All 74 million of them. They are diving the country just as much as Trump did by continuing to do so.
The purpose of that meme by comparing a trump flag to an illegal assault rifle is comparing all trump voters to radical terrorists. Even the 99.99% who were against the storming and kidnapping.

"Almost no one supported the storming of the Capitol"

Surely you're joking?  Can we start with the ex POTUS and go from there?

We’re talking about voters and citizens. My reply had nothing to do with trump himself, congress or the senate. I haven’t seen any support for the riot anywhere. Every single person I know, talk to, read posts of have all said it was the wrong thing to do and agree everyone involved should be punished. Are you saying that a large portion of the 74 million who voted for Trump agree with the riot? I just don’t see any evidence of that. I see lots of evidence of the exact opposite by everyone condemning it.I’m sure if I looked real hard I could dig up a few crazies who supported it, but they would be a very small minority.Again, were back to painting a broad picture and labeling 1/4 of the country (half of the voting population) as terrorists based on the action of very few, and that seems to have become a common theme and I disagree with it. That’s not a way to build unity and move forward by labeling everyone you disagree with as racist or terrorist.

dignin

mace1229 said:

brianlux said:

mace1229 said:

Merkin Baller said:

mace1229 said:

Merkin Baller said:

mace1229 said:

Bentleyspop said:

brianlux said:

PJPOWER said:

tempo_n_groove said:

PJPOWER said:

hedonist said:

PJPOWER said:

hedonist said:

I don’t think social media itself is the issue; it’s the people using it.

The self-absorption, the hate, the gaffes, the sometime-goodness, the need to be seen or known for anything - that already exists. Social media simply facilitates its communication (and the news mistakes this for actual news, but that’s another story).

That’s not 100% true.  Social media, Facebook specifically, uses AI software that creates algorithms to manipulate people’s accounts to focus on certain topics...the ones that are going to most effectively elicit an emotional response and general clicks.  It’s disgusting.

I imagine a bunch of other companies do this too. Hell, my email account is still bombarded by ads for a litter box we purchased two months ago!

As to the amplification issue mentioned, I want those with whom I disagree to speak as loudly and freely as those with whom I do concur. That I might be disgusted by another’s words or actions isn’t worth that sacrifice, to me. 

That’s the thing, though, you will see less apposing views and more content that aligns with what you are interested in.  Trump supporters get tied to more and more Trump content and less pro-Biden content and so on.  

If you haven’t seen it yet, Social Dilemma on Netflix explains how the program works better than I can. 

I see almost ZERO pro trump posts now after the election. No more links, memes, or posts.  It’s crazy because I’m still friends with people but I just don’t get in the algorithms?

I think a lot of Trump related content is being filtered on most popular platforms and pro-Trump groups are being taken down.  That, and a lot of the hardcore Trump supporters that were spreading false info and memes simply jumped ship to that “other” platform (that is now pretty much gone).  I think many of the hardcore followers are still out there, just propping themselves up on other media options.
Also, if you never “liked” any of their posts or just ignored them, then they probably didn’t get labeled as one of your interests. 

Yes, they are out there, for sure.  I think a lot of them might be "going underground" so to speak.  This is just a wild guess, but I wonder how many are a bit paranoid that since so many 1/6 rioter have been imprisoned and/ or taken to court, they are a bit afraid of being targeted as extremest (which many are). 

For much of the latter part of 2020 and 2021, here in strongly-leaning El Dorado County, California, I frequently saw many Trump trucks driving around with their huge Trump flags waving from their antennas or poles attached to the bed of their pick up trucks.  I'm seeing far fewer of them.  They seem to have lowered their flag and instead are flying American flags from their homes.  That's ironic because Trump supporters who put on a show of being patriotic are being totally contradictory. 

Patriotic supporters like these guys...

So you’re saying displaying the trump flag is the same as piling up a bunch of guys in the back and waving (probably illegal fully automatic) assault rifles around?
I think those caravans were obnoxious. I think I only crossed one once or twice, but a flag is not an illegal firearm.

If trump supporters didn’t want to be compared to terrorists, they probably shouldn’t have acted like terrorists these last few years. 

Then show a picture of them storming the Capitol or acting like a terrorist, not waving a flag.
But seeing how that post was from October, it obviously wasn’t about storming the Capitol. It literally is comparing waving a flag of the opposite party to waving illegal guns.
I think those caravans were annoying. But this comparison is just lame.

& trump supporters stormed the Michigan capitol with their guns back in the spring. 

https://www.businessinsider.com/michigan-open-carry-laws-legal-protesters-guns-at-state-capitol-2020-5

Boo hoo, people who act like terrorists are being compared to terrorists. 

Again, you’re judging 74 million people based on the actions of very few. Almost no one supported the storming of the Capitol or the plan in Michigan.
I don’t recall people calling all Biden/Obama supporters terrorists when 1 guy shot up a congressional baseball game. That was clearly a left-wing terrorist act. But we all recognize he represents just a tiny fraction. 

Many here are quick to judge everyone who didn’t support Biden and call them all terrorists and racist based on the actions of a relatively small portion. All 74 million of them. They are diving the country just as much as Trump did by continuing to do so.
The purpose of that meme by comparing a trump flag to an illegal assault rifle is comparing all trump voters to radical terrorists. Even the 99.99% who were against the storming and kidnapping.

"Almost no one supported the storming of the Capitol"

Surely you're joking?  Can we start with the ex POTUS and go from there?

We’re talking about voters and citizens. My reply had nothing to do with trump himself, congress or the senate. I haven’t seen any support for the riot anywhere. Every single person I know, talk to, read posts of have all said it was the wrong thing to do and agree everyone involved should be punished. Are you saying that a large portion of the 74 million who voted for Trump agree with the riot? I just don’t see any evidence of that. I see lots of evidence of the exact opposite by everyone condemning it.I’m sure if I looked real hard I could dig up a few crazies who supported it, but they would be a very small minority.Again, were back to painting a broad picture and labeling 1/4 of the country (half of the voting population) as terrorists based on the action of very few, and that seems to have become a common theme and I disagree with it. That’s not a way to build unity and move forward by labeling everyone you disagree with as racist or terrorist.

Donald Trump's polling says otherwise. There is a real dark underbelly in your country right now.

mickeyrat

dignin said:

mace1229 said:

brianlux said:

mace1229 said:

Merkin Baller said:

mace1229 said:

Merkin Baller said:

mace1229 said:

Bentleyspop said:

brianlux said:

PJPOWER said:

tempo_n_groove said:

PJPOWER said:

hedonist said:

PJPOWER said:

hedonist said:

I don’t think social media itself is the issue; it’s the people using it.

The self-absorption, the hate, the gaffes, the sometime-goodness, the need to be seen or known for anything - that already exists. Social media simply facilitates its communication (and the news mistakes this for actual news, but that’s another story).

That’s not 100% true.  Social media, Facebook specifically, uses AI software that creates algorithms to manipulate people’s accounts to focus on certain topics...the ones that are going to most effectively elicit an emotional response and general clicks.  It’s disgusting.

I imagine a bunch of other companies do this too. Hell, my email account is still bombarded by ads for a litter box we purchased two months ago!

As to the amplification issue mentioned, I want those with whom I disagree to speak as loudly and freely as those with whom I do concur. That I might be disgusted by another’s words or actions isn’t worth that sacrifice, to me. 

That’s the thing, though, you will see less apposing views and more content that aligns with what you are interested in.  Trump supporters get tied to more and more Trump content and less pro-Biden content and so on.  

If you haven’t seen it yet, Social Dilemma on Netflix explains how the program works better than I can. 

I see almost ZERO pro trump posts now after the election. No more links, memes, or posts.  It’s crazy because I’m still friends with people but I just don’t get in the algorithms?

I think a lot of Trump related content is being filtered on most popular platforms and pro-Trump groups are being taken down.  That, and a lot of the hardcore Trump supporters that were spreading false info and memes simply jumped ship to that “other” platform (that is now pretty much gone).  I think many of the hardcore followers are still out there, just propping themselves up on other media options.
Also, if you never “liked” any of their posts or just ignored them, then they probably didn’t get labeled as one of your interests. 

Yes, they are out there, for sure.  I think a lot of them might be "going underground" so to speak.  This is just a wild guess, but I wonder how many are a bit paranoid that since so many 1/6 rioter have been imprisoned and/ or taken to court, they are a bit afraid of being targeted as extremest (which many are). 

For much of the latter part of 2020 and 2021, here in strongly-leaning El Dorado County, California, I frequently saw many Trump trucks driving around with their huge Trump flags waving from their antennas or poles attached to the bed of their pick up trucks.  I'm seeing far fewer of them.  They seem to have lowered their flag and instead are flying American flags from their homes.  That's ironic because Trump supporters who put on a show of being patriotic are being totally contradictory. 

Patriotic supporters like these guys...

So you’re saying displaying the trump flag is the same as piling up a bunch of guys in the back and waving (probably illegal fully automatic) assault rifles around?
I think those caravans were obnoxious. I think I only crossed one once or twice, but a flag is not an illegal firearm.

If trump supporters didn’t want to be compared to terrorists, they probably shouldn’t have acted like terrorists these last few years. 

Then show a picture of them storming the Capitol or acting like a terrorist, not waving a flag.
But seeing how that post was from October, it obviously wasn’t about storming the Capitol. It literally is comparing waving a flag of the opposite party to waving illegal guns.
I think those caravans were annoying. But this comparison is just lame.

& trump supporters stormed the Michigan capitol with their guns back in the spring. 

https://www.businessinsider.com/michigan-open-carry-laws-legal-protesters-guns-at-state-capitol-2020-5

Boo hoo, people who act like terrorists are being compared to terrorists. 

Again, you’re judging 74 million people based on the actions of very few. Almost no one supported the storming of the Capitol or the plan in Michigan.
I don’t recall people calling all Biden/Obama supporters terrorists when 1 guy shot up a congressional baseball game. That was clearly a left-wing terrorist act. But we all recognize he represents just a tiny fraction. 

Many here are quick to judge everyone who didn’t support Biden and call them all terrorists and racist based on the actions of a relatively small portion. All 74 million of them. They are diving the country just as much as Trump did by continuing to do so.
The purpose of that meme by comparing a trump flag to an illegal assault rifle is comparing all trump voters to radical terrorists. Even the 99.99% who were against the storming and kidnapping.

"Almost no one supported the storming of the Capitol"

Surely you're joking?  Can we start with the ex POTUS and go from there?

We’re talking about voters and citizens. My reply had nothing to do with trump himself, congress or the senate. I haven’t seen any support for the riot anywhere. Every single person I know, talk to, read posts of have all said it was the wrong thing to do and agree everyone involved should be punished. Are you saying that a large portion of the 74 million who voted for Trump agree with the riot? I just don’t see any evidence of that. I see lots of evidence of the exact opposite by everyone condemning it.I’m sure if I looked real hard I could dig up a few crazies who supported it, but they would be a very small minority.Again, were back to painting a broad picture and labeling 1/4 of the country (half of the voting population) as terrorists based on the action of very few, and that seems to have become a common theme and I disagree with it. That’s not a way to build unity and move forward by labeling everyone you disagree with as racist or terrorist.

Donald Trump's polling says otherwise. There is a real dark underbelly in your country right now.

trump didnt create it. he exposed it. emboldened it.but its always been there.

brianlux

mickeyrat said:

dignin said:

mace1229 said:

brianlux said:

mace1229 said:

Merkin Baller said:

mace1229 said:

Merkin Baller said:

mace1229 said:

Bentleyspop said:

brianlux said:

PJPOWER said:

tempo_n_groove said:

PJPOWER said:

hedonist said:

PJPOWER said:

hedonist said:

I don’t think social media itself is the issue; it’s the people using it.

The self-absorption, the hate, the gaffes, the sometime-goodness, the need to be seen or known for anything - that already exists. Social media simply facilitates its communication (and the news mistakes this for actual news, but that’s another story).

That’s not 100% true.  Social media, Facebook specifically, uses AI software that creates algorithms to manipulate people’s accounts to focus on certain topics...the ones that are going to most effectively elicit an emotional response and general clicks.  It’s disgusting.

I imagine a bunch of other companies do this too. Hell, my email account is still bombarded by ads for a litter box we purchased two months ago!

As to the amplification issue mentioned, I want those with whom I disagree to speak as loudly and freely as those with whom I do concur. That I might be disgusted by another’s words or actions isn’t worth that sacrifice, to me. 

That’s the thing, though, you will see less apposing views and more content that aligns with what you are interested in.  Trump supporters get tied to more and more Trump content and less pro-Biden content and so on.  

If you haven’t seen it yet, Social Dilemma on Netflix explains how the program works better than I can. 

I see almost ZERO pro trump posts now after the election. No more links, memes, or posts.  It’s crazy because I’m still friends with people but I just don’t get in the algorithms?

I think a lot of

"Almost no one supported the storming of the Capitol"

Surely you're joking?  Can we start with the ex POTUS and go from there?

We’re talking about voters and citizens. My reply had nothing to do with trump himself, congress or the senate. I haven’t seen any support for the riot anywhere. Every single person I know, talk to, read posts of have all said it was the wrong thing to do and agree everyone involved should be punished. Are you saying that a large portion of the 74 million who voted for Trump agree with the riot? I just don’t see any evidence of that. I see lots of evidence of the exact opposite by everyone condemning it.I’m sure if I looked real hard I could dig up a few crazies who supported it, but they would be a very small minority.Again, were back to painting a broad picture and labeling 1/4 of the country (half of the voting population) as terrorists based on the action of very few, and that seems to have become a common theme and I disagree with it. That’s not a way to build unity and move forward by labeling everyone you disagree with as racist or terrorist.

Donald Trump's polling says otherwise. There is a real dark underbelly in your country right now.

trump didnt create it. he exposed it. emboldened it.but its always been there.

Exactly.  Reminds me of Henry Rollins saying on day one of Trump's term sort-of in office, "America is now more transparent than ever."

Halifax2TheMax

mace1229 said:

brianlux said:

mace1229 said:

Merkin Baller said:

mace1229 said:

Merkin Baller said:

mace1229 said:

Bentleyspop said:

brianlux said:

PJPOWER said:

tempo_n_groove said:

PJPOWER said:

hedonist said:

PJPOWER said:

hedonist said:

I don’t think social media itself is the issue; it’s the people using it.

The self-absorption, the hate, the gaffes, the sometime-goodness, the need to be seen or known for anything - that already exists. Social media simply facilitates its communication (and the news mistakes this for actual news, but that’s another story).

That’s not 100% true.  Social media, Facebook specifically, uses AI software that creates algorithms to manipulate people’s accounts to focus on certain topics...the ones that are going to most effectively elicit an emotional response and general clicks.  It’s disgusting.

I imagine a bunch of other companies do this too. Hell, my email account is still bombarded by ads for a litter box we purchased two months ago!

As to the amplification issue mentioned, I want those with whom I disagree to speak as loudly and freely as those with whom I do concur. That I might be disgusted by another’s words or actions isn’t worth that sacrifice, to me. 

That’s the thing, though, you will see less apposing views and more content that aligns with what you are interested in.  Trump supporters get tied to more and more Trump content and less pro-Biden content and so on.  

If you haven’t seen it yet, Social Dilemma on Netflix explains how the program works better than I can. 

I see almost ZERO pro trump posts now after the election. No more links, memes, or posts.  It’s crazy because I’m still friends with people but I just don’t get in the algorithms?

I think a lot of Trump related content is being filtered on most popular platforms and pro-Trump groups are being taken down.  That, and a lot of the hardcore Trump supporters that were spreading false info and memes simply jumped ship to that “other” platform (that is now pretty much gone).  I think many of the hardcore followers are still out there, just propping themselves up on other media options.
Also, if you never “liked” any of their posts or just ignored them, then they probably didn’t get labeled as one of your interests. 

Yes, they are out there, for sure.  I think a lot of them might be "going underground" so to speak.  This is just a wild guess, but I wonder how many are a bit paranoid that since so many 1/6 rioter have been imprisoned and/ or taken to court, they are a bit afraid of being targeted as extremest (which many are). 

For much of the latter part of 2020 and 2021, here in strongly-leaning El Dorado County, California, I frequently saw many Trump trucks driving around with their huge Trump flags waving from their antennas or poles attached to the bed of their pick up trucks.  I'm seeing far fewer of them.  They seem to have lowered their flag and instead are flying American flags from their homes.  That's ironic because Trump supporters who put on a show of being patriotic are being totally contradictory. 

Patriotic supporters like these guys...

So you’re saying displaying the trump flag is the same as piling up a bunch of guys in the back and waving (probably illegal fully automatic) assault rifles around?
I think those caravans were obnoxious. I think I only crossed one once or twice, but a flag is not an illegal firearm.

If trump supporters didn’t want to be compared to terrorists, they probably shouldn’t have acted like terrorists these last few years. 

Then show a picture of them storming the Capitol or acting like a terrorist, not waving a flag.
But seeing how that post was from October, it obviously wasn’t about storming the Capitol. It literally is comparing waving a flag of the opposite party to waving illegal guns.
I think those caravans were annoying. But this comparison is just lame.

& trump supporters stormed the Michigan capitol with their guns back in the spring. 

https://www.businessinsider.com/michigan-open-carry-laws-legal-protesters-guns-at-state-capitol-2020-5

Boo hoo, people who act like terrorists are being compared to terrorists. 

Again, you’re judging 74 million people based on the actions of very few. Almost no one supported the storming of the Capitol or the plan in Michigan.
I don’t recall people calling all Biden/Obama supporters terrorists when 1 guy shot up a congressional baseball game. That was clearly a left-wing terrorist act. But we all recognize he represents just a tiny fraction. 

Many here are quick to judge everyone who didn’t support Biden and call them all terrorists and racist based on the actions of a relatively small portion. All 74 million of them. They are diving the country just as much as Trump did by continuing to do so.
The purpose of that meme by comparing a trump flag to an illegal assault rifle is comparing all trump voters to radical terrorists. Even the 99.99% who were against the storming and kidnapping.

"Almost no one supported the storming of the Capitol"

Surely you're joking?  Can we start with the ex POTUS and go from there?

We’re talking about voters and citizens. My reply had nothing to do with trump himself, congress or the senate. I haven’t seen any support for the riot anywhere. Every single person I know, talk to, read posts of have all said it was the wrong thing to do and agree everyone involved should be punished. Are you saying that a large portion of the 74 million who voted for Trump agree with the riot? I just don’t see any evidence of that. I see lots of evidence of the exact opposite by everyone condemning it.I’m sure if I looked real hard I could dig up a few crazies who supported it, but they would be a very small minority.Again, were back to painting a broad picture and labeling 1/4 of the country (half of the voting population) as terrorists based on the action of very few, and that seems to have become a common theme and I disagree with it. That’s not a way to build unity and move forward by labeling everyone you disagree with as racist or terrorist.

55% of republicans believe the “use of force is appropriate to ‘protect the traditional American way of life.’”  Sorry, but a large % of Americans supported the armed (why were they armed?) protest at the Michigan state house and the insurrection and insurrectionists at the capitol. Why haven’t all the perps been turned in by family and friends? Because they support their actions and share their beliefs. 

nicknyr15

Halifax2TheMax said:

mace1229 said:

brianlux said:

mace1229 said:

Merkin Baller said:

mace1229 said:

Merkin Baller said:

mace1229 said:

Bentleyspop said:

brianlux said:

PJPOWER said:

tempo_n_groove said:

PJPOWER said:

hedonist said:

PJPOWER said:

hedonist said:

I don’t think social media itself is the issue; it’s the people using it.

The self-absorption, the hate, the gaffes, the sometime-goodness, the need to be seen or known for anything - that already exists. Social media simply facilitates its communication (and the news mistakes this for actual news, but that’s another story).

That’s not 100% true.  Social media, Facebook specifically, uses AI software that creates algorithms to manipulate people’s accounts to focus on certain topics...the ones that are going to most effectively elicit an emotional response and general clicks.  It’s disgusting.

I imagine a bunch of other companies do this too. Hell, my email account is still bombarded by ads for a litter box we purchased two months ago!

As to the amplification issue mentioned, I want those with whom I disagree to speak as loudly and freely as those with whom I do concur. That I might be disgusted by another’s words or actions isn’t worth that sacrifice, to me. 

That’s the thing, though, you will see less apposing views and more content that aligns with what you are interested in.  Trump supporters get tied to more and more Trump content and less pro-Biden content and so on.  

If you haven’t seen it yet, Social Dilemma on Netflix explains how the program works better than I can. 

I see almost ZERO pro trump posts now after the election. No more links, memes, or posts.  It’s crazy because I’m still friends with people but I just don’t get in the algorithms?

I think a lot of Trump related content is being filtered on most popular platforms and pro-Trump groups are being taken down.  That, and a lot of the hardcore Trump supporters that were spreading false info and memes simply jumped ship to that “other” platform (that is now pretty much gone).  I think many of the hardcore followers are still out there, just propping themselves up on other media options.
Also, if you never “liked” any of their posts or just ignored them, then they probably didn’t get labeled as one of your interests. 

Yes, they are out there, for sure.  I think a lot of them might be "going underground" so to speak.  This is just a wild guess, but I wonder how many are a bit paranoid that since so many 1/6 rioter have been imprisoned and/ or taken to court, they are a bit afraid of being targeted as extremest (which many are). 

For much of the latter part of 2020 and 2021, here in strongly-leaning El Dorado County, California, I frequently saw many Trump trucks driving around with their huge Trump flags waving from their antennas or poles attached to the bed of their pick up trucks.  I'm seeing far fewer of them.  They seem to have lowered their flag and instead are flying American flags from their homes.  That's ironic because Trump supporters who put on a show of being patriotic are being totally contradictory. 

Patriotic supporters like these guys...

So you’re saying displaying the trump flag is the same as piling up a bunch of guys in the back and waving (probably illegal fully automatic) assault rifles around?
I think those caravans were obnoxious. I think I only crossed one once or twice, but a flag is not an illegal firearm.

If trump supporters didn’t want to be compared to terrorists, they probably shouldn’t have acted like terrorists these last few years. 

Then show a picture of them storming the Capitol or acting like a terrorist, not waving a flag.
But seeing how that post was from October, it obviously wasn’t about storming the Capitol. It literally is comparing waving a flag of the opposite party to waving illegal guns.
I think those caravans were annoying. But this comparison is just lame.

& trump supporters stormed the Michigan capitol with their guns back in the spring. 

https://www.businessinsider.com/michigan-open-carry-laws-legal-protesters-guns-at-state-capitol-2020-5

Boo hoo, people who act like terrorists are being compared to terrorists. 

Again, you’re judging 74 million people based on the actions of very few. Almost no one supported the storming of the Capitol or the plan in Michigan.
I don’t recall people calling all Biden/Obama supporters terrorists when 1 guy shot up a congressional baseball game. That was clearly a left-wing terrorist act. But we all recognize he represents just a tiny fraction. 

Many here are quick to judge everyone who didn’t support Biden and call them all terrorists and racist based on the actions of a relatively small portion. All 74 million of them. They are diving the country just as much as Trump did by continuing to do so.
The purpose of that meme by comparing a trump flag to an illegal assault rifle is comparing all trump voters to radical terrorists. Even the 99.99% who were against the storming and kidnapping.

"Almost no one supported the storming of the Capitol"

Surely you're joking?  Can we start with the ex POTUS and go from there?

We’re talking about voters and citizens. My reply had nothing to do with trump himself, congress or the senate. I haven’t seen any support for the riot anywhere. Every single person I know, talk to, read posts of have all said it was the wrong thing to do and agree everyone involved should be punished. Are you saying that a large portion of the 74 million who voted for Trump agree with the riot? I just don’t see any evidence of that. I see lots of evidence of the exact opposite by everyone condemning it.I’m sure if I looked real hard I could dig up a few crazies who supported it, but they would be a very small minority.Again, were back to painting a broad picture and labeling 1/4 of the country (half of the voting population) as terrorists based on the action of very few, and that seems to have become a common theme and I disagree with it. That’s not a way to build unity and move forward by labeling everyone you disagree with as racist or terrorist.

55% of republicans believe the “use of force is appropriate to ‘protect the traditional American way of life.’”  Sorry, but a large % of Americans supported the armed (why were they armed?) protest at the Michigan state house and the insurrection and insurrectionists at the capitol. Why haven’t all the perps been turned in by family and friends? Because they support their actions and share their beliefs. 

Turned in by friends or family? Really? That’s your argument.