What is the going rate for Benaroya Hall vinyl?

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  • Zod
    Zod Posts: 10,970
    Usually with bootlegs though... you can find a number of places charging a nominal price, but many resellers on Ebay or Discogs try to inflate the price.  Usually you can find bootlegs for a modest price (or slightly more than a modest price)?

    In regards to No Code, I can't believe the reissues are out of print already, and the demand for vinyl has gotten so big even the reissues are in high demand.

    Back to Benaroya.  When I bought mine I was an almost starving university student.   I spent the night between choose food vs. vinyl.   I chose the vinyl and had to spend the next month eating pretty much nothing but Mr. Noodles... lol.
  • demetrios
    demetrios Posts: 98,322
    Zod said:
    Usually with bootlegs though... you can find a number of places charging a nominal price, but many resellers on Ebay or Discogs try to inflate the price.  Usually you can find bootlegs for a modest price (or slightly more than a modest price)?

    In regards to No Code, I can't believe the reissues are out of print already, and the demand for vinyl has gotten so big even the reissues are in high demand.

    Back to Benaroya.  When I bought mine I was an almost starving university student.   I spent the night between choose food vs. vinyl.   I chose the vinyl and had to spend the next month eating pretty much nothing but Mr. Noodles... lol.

    Shocked the No Code reissue is out of print. It was only yesterday that vinyl was pretty easy to find at the local record store & online retail stores.

    Local record store had copies of the Benny bootleg for $89.99. And again heard they had more copies in, charging the same price. Yeah eBay or Discogs will charge ALOT more. One sold few weeks back for $222.22 US.

  • Anjar
    Anjar UK Posts: 42
    demetrios said:
    Zod said:
    Usually with bootlegs though... you can find a number of places charging a nominal price, but many resellers on Ebay or Discogs try to inflate the price.  Usually you can find bootlegs for a modest price (or slightly more than a modest price)?

    In regards to No Code, I can't believe the reissues are out of print already, and the demand for vinyl has gotten so big even the reissues are in high demand.

    Back to Benaroya.  When I bought mine I was an almost starving university student.   I spent the night between choose food vs. vinyl.   I chose the vinyl and had to spend the next month eating pretty much nothing but Mr. Noodles... lol.

    Shocked the No Code reissue is out of print. It was only yesterday that vinyl was pretty easy to find at the local record store & online retail stores.

    Local record store had copies of the Benny bootleg for $89.99. And again heard they had more copies in, charging the same price. Yeah eBay or Discogs will charge ALOT more. One sold few weeks back for $222.22 US.

    How many discs is the bootleg? $90 seems pretty steep for a boot and over $200 is pretty crazy. Let me know if anyone hears of a copy of No Code available!
  • demetrios
    demetrios Posts: 98,322
    Anjar said:
    demetrios said:
    Zod said:
    Usually with bootlegs though... you can find a number of places charging a nominal price, but many resellers on Ebay or Discogs try to inflate the price.  Usually you can find bootlegs for a modest price (or slightly more than a modest price)?

    In regards to No Code, I can't believe the reissues are out of print already, and the demand for vinyl has gotten so big even the reissues are in high demand.

    Back to Benaroya.  When I bought mine I was an almost starving university student.   I spent the night between choose food vs. vinyl.   I chose the vinyl and had to spend the next month eating pretty much nothing but Mr. Noodles... lol.

    Shocked the No Code reissue is out of print. It was only yesterday that vinyl was pretty easy to find at the local record store & online retail stores.

    Local record store had copies of the Benny bootleg for $89.99. And again heard they had more copies in, charging the same price. Yeah eBay or Discogs will charge ALOT more. One sold few weeks back for $222.22 US.

    How many discs is the bootleg? $90 seems pretty steep for a boot and over $200 is pretty crazy. Let me know if anyone hears of a copy of No Code available!

    Three. If I see a reissue vinyl copy of No Code online will let you know.
  • Anjar
    Anjar UK Posts: 42
    demetrios said:
    Anjar said:
    demetrios said:
    Zod said:
    Usually with bootlegs though... you can find a number of places charging a nominal price, but many resellers on Ebay or Discogs try to inflate the price.  Usually you can find bootlegs for a modest price (or slightly more than a modest price)?

    In regards to No Code, I can't believe the reissues are out of print already, and the demand for vinyl has gotten so big even the reissues are in high demand.

    Back to Benaroya.  When I bought mine I was an almost starving university student.   I spent the night between choose food vs. vinyl.   I chose the vinyl and had to spend the next month eating pretty much nothing but Mr. Noodles... lol.

    Shocked the No Code reissue is out of print. It was only yesterday that vinyl was pretty easy to find at the local record store & online retail stores.

    Local record store had copies of the Benny bootleg for $89.99. And again heard they had more copies in, charging the same price. Yeah eBay or Discogs will charge ALOT more. One sold few weeks back for $222.22 US.

    How many discs is the bootleg? $90 seems pretty steep for a boot and over $200 is pretty crazy. Let me know if anyone hears of a copy of No Code available!

    Three. If I see a reissue vinyl copy of No Code online will let you know.
    Thanks 🙏 There are a lots on Discogs but they are all around £100 or more 😳
  • demetrios
    demetrios Posts: 98,322
    Anjar said:
    demetrios said:
    Anjar said:
    demetrios said:
    Zod said:
    Usually with bootlegs though... you can find a number of places charging a nominal price, but many resellers on Ebay or Discogs try to inflate the price.  Usually you can find bootlegs for a modest price (or slightly more than a modest price)?

    In regards to No Code, I can't believe the reissues are out of print already, and the demand for vinyl has gotten so big even the reissues are in high demand.

    Back to Benaroya.  When I bought mine I was an almost starving university student.   I spent the night between choose food vs. vinyl.   I chose the vinyl and had to spend the next month eating pretty much nothing but Mr. Noodles... lol.

    Shocked the No Code reissue is out of print. It was only yesterday that vinyl was pretty easy to find at the local record store & online retail stores.

    Local record store had copies of the Benny bootleg for $89.99. And again heard they had more copies in, charging the same price. Yeah eBay or Discogs will charge ALOT more. One sold few weeks back for $222.22 US.

    How many discs is the bootleg? $90 seems pretty steep for a boot and over $200 is pretty crazy. Let me know if anyone hears of a copy of No Code available!

    Three. If I see a reissue vinyl copy of No Code online will let you know.
    Thanks 🙏 There are a lots on Discogs but they are all around £100 or more 😳

    Oh wow!! 
  • demetrios
    demetrios Posts: 98,322
    Anjar said:
    demetrios said:
    Anjar said:
    demetrios said:
    Zod said:
    Usually with bootlegs though... you can find a number of places charging a nominal price, but many resellers on Ebay or Discogs try to inflate the price.  Usually you can find bootlegs for a modest price (or slightly more than a modest price)?

    In regards to No Code, I can't believe the reissues are out of print already, and the demand for vinyl has gotten so big even the reissues are in high demand.

    Back to Benaroya.  When I bought mine I was an almost starving university student.   I spent the night between choose food vs. vinyl.   I chose the vinyl and had to spend the next month eating pretty much nothing but Mr. Noodles... lol.

    Shocked the No Code reissue is out of print. It was only yesterday that vinyl was pretty easy to find at the local record store & online retail stores.

    Local record store had copies of the Benny bootleg for $89.99. And again heard they had more copies in, charging the same price. Yeah eBay or Discogs will charge ALOT more. One sold few weeks back for $222.22 US.

    How many discs is the bootleg? $90 seems pretty steep for a boot and over $200 is pretty crazy. Let me know if anyone hears of a copy of No Code available!

    Three. If I see a reissue vinyl copy of No Code online will let you know.
    Thanks 🙏 There are a lots on Discogs but they are all around £100 or more 😳

    Found one. Pm sent.
  • RoleModelsinBlood31
    RoleModelsinBlood31 Austin TX Posts: 6,252
    Man Grateful Dead box sets are suuuuper pricey.  Check out 30 trips around the sun or Europe 72 complete.... $1500 going rate. I picked up a bunch of their stuff recently by selling a bunch of useless vinyl.  I had no idea their stuff was so expensive!  The packaging is memorable though- felt lined carved wooden cases, amazing artwork, etc- pretty neat if you like things like that.  Also the cd’s are in ornate packaging too, really puts PJ’s chipboard sets to shame.

    then again the prices for those sets while in stock on their site are much more than most of PJ’s.

    anyway, check it out, it’s pretty eye opening as to the demand for their stuff and their fan base  vs PJ.
    I'm like an opening band for your mom.
  • PB11041
    PB11041 Earth Posts: 2,845
    RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
    Man Grateful Dead box sets are suuuuper pricey.  Check out 30 trips around the sun or Europe 72 complete.... $1500 going rate. I picked up a bunch of their stuff recently by selling a bunch of useless vinyl.  I had no idea their stuff was so expensive!  The packaging is memorable though- felt lined carved wooden cases, amazing artwork, etc- pretty neat if you like things like that.  Also the cd’s are in ornate packaging too, really puts PJ’s chipboard sets to shame.

    then again the prices for those sets while in stock on their site are much more than most of PJ’s.

    anyway, check it out, it’s pretty eye opening as to the demand for their stuff and their fan base  vs PJ.
    the limited runs on all the dead stuff make them go for high prices on secondary.  I funded my revival into vinyl in part by selling several of the Dick's Picks series CDs I had.  I just did not play them with the same frequency I would with vinyl.   If I had a time machine I would go back and buy about 10 copies of several of their Dicks Picks releases and such.  The same with PJ Lost Dogs on vinyl. 
    His eminence has yet to show. 
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  • jbrownie
    jbrownie Posts: 140
    I had been meaning to jokingly start a thread asking what the going rate for Benaroya shrink wrap was. Now it seems I have an answer...about 650 dollars. 
  • MedozK
    MedozK Tennessee Posts: 9,212
    edited March 2021
    At least sellers next year will have to pay taxes on their income when they sell a Benaroya Hall. If your in the US and looking to sell, sell this year cause next year you will have to report that income on your taxes.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2021/03/26/its-going-to-get-harder-to-avoid-telling-the-irs-about-income-from-online-sales.html
    Post edited by MedozK on
  • ymalkiel
    ymalkiel Posts: 140
    RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
    Man Grateful Dead box sets are suuuuper pricey.  Check out 30 trips around the sun or Europe 72 complete.... $1500 going rate. I picked up a bunch of their stuff recently by selling a bunch of useless vinyl.  I had no idea their stuff was so expensive!  The packaging is memorable though- felt lined carved wooden cases, amazing artwork, etc- pretty neat if you like things like that.  Also the cd’s are in ornate packaging too, really puts PJ’s chipboard sets to shame.

    then again the prices for those sets while in stock on their site are much more than most of PJ’s.

    anyway, check it out, it’s pretty eye opening as to the demand for their stuff and their fan base  vs PJ.
    The 30 Trips box from GD does go for a lot, but it was pretty pricey to begin with. I think I paid around $700 for it. Some of the other box sets have gone up significantly in value, though. A couple of the box sets that I spent $75 - $100 on go for $300 - $500 or more. I think the first Spring 1990 box set has sold for $1000. I think I paid $150 for that when it came out. 


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  • JeBurkhardt
    JeBurkhardt Posts: 5,378
    edited April 2021
    I am not sure if this allowed, so please delete it if it is not, but there is a Benny #586 of 2000 up for raffle on a Facebook auction site called Wax Sabbath. It says sealed with torn shrink. 100 spots at $30 a spot. I never win things like that, but someone here might be interested. 
    Post edited by JeBurkhardt on
  • demetrios
    demetrios Posts: 98,322
    edited April 2021
    JeBurkhardt said:
    I am not sure if this allowed, so please delete it if it is not, but there is a Benny #586 of 2000 up for raffle on a Facebook auction site called Wax Sabbath. It says sealed with torn shrink. 100 spots at $30 a spot. I never win things like that, but someone here might be interested. 

    I never win at those raffles either. 
  • PB11041
    PB11041 Earth Posts: 2,845
    MedozK said:
    At least sellers next year will have to pay taxes on their income when they sell a Benaroya Hall. If your in the US and looking to sell, sell this year cause next year you will have to report that income on your taxes.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2021/03/26/its-going-to-get-harder-to-avoid-telling-the-irs-about-income-from-online-sales.html
    that is going to be next to impossible to enforce.  People will just move to more frictionless means like the Lost Dogs forum and make an agreement pay via paypal/venmo with no direct link to a product being mentinoed.
    His eminence has yet to show. 
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  • Jimmydean55
    Jimmydean55 Posts: 1,607
    edited April 2021
    PB11041 said:
    MedozK said:
    At least sellers next year will have to pay taxes on their income when they sell a Benaroya Hall. If your in the US and looking to sell, sell this year cause next year you will have to report that income on your taxes.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2021/03/26/its-going-to-get-harder-to-avoid-telling-the-irs-about-income-from-online-sales.html
    that is going to be next to impossible to enforce.  People will just move to more frictionless means like the Lost Dogs forum and make an agreement pay via paypal/venmo with no direct link to a product being mentinoed.
    It’s not hard to enforce at all. If you are paid via “Goods and Services”, you get a form come tax time that shows everything you sold for the year and you have to pay tax on it. I know because I sold a bunch last year and got that nice surprise this tax year. To my knowledge, only two states do that now, but you can bet once the other state governments get wind, they’ll be on it too. 

    Now, you could only accept payment via “Friends and Family” and avoid the tax, but how many people are going to trust the other user? Especially if it’s a Benny or a Pitt 13, etc and have no buyer protection? Not too many.

    eBay is doing the same. They have wrapped up all their fees into your payout, and the buyer pays tax at the point of sale, but you end up paying tax on the sale at tax time. Isn’t it great paying a tax for something you already paid tax on when you purchased it - just because you ended up selling it??
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  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 10,072
    Jimmydean55 said:
    PB11041 said:
    MedozK said:
    At least sellers next year will have to pay taxes on their income when they sell a Benaroya Hall. If your in the US and looking to sell, sell this year cause next year you will have to report that income on your taxes.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2021/03/26/its-going-to-get-harder-to-avoid-telling-the-irs-about-income-from-online-sales.html
    that is going to be next to impossible to enforce.  People will just move to more frictionless means like the Lost Dogs forum and make an agreement pay via paypal/venmo with no direct link to a product being mentinoed.
    It’s not hard to enforce at all. If you are paid via “Goods and Services”, you get a form come tax time that shows everything you sold for the year and you have to pay tax on it. I know because I sold a bunch last year and got that nice surprise this tax year. To my knowledge, only two states do that now, but you can bet once the other state governments get wind, they’ll be on it too. 

    Now, you could only accept payment via “Friends and Family” and avoid the tax, but how many people are going to trust the other user? Especially if it’s a Benny or a Pitt 13, etc and have no buyer protection? Not too many.

    eBay is doing the same. They have wrapped up all their fees into your payout, and the buyer pays tax at the point of sale, but you end up paying tax on the sale at tax time. Isn’t it great paying a tax for something you already paid tax on when you purchased it - just because you ended up selling it??
    I would assume you could deduct the amount you paid for the item in your taxes? So if you paid $1500 for one and sold it for $2500 you would only be taxed on the $1000 profit? And if you bought it on the secondary market you likely didn't pay taxes for it already. And if you didn't buy it on the secondary market, you paid like $50 for it then, so the taxes would have been about $4.
    I didn't have time to read the article, but most places, like ebay and etsy, only report the taxes over a certain amount, like $10,000. At least that was the case 2 years ago when I closed my etsy shop. Less than that they assume it was a private sale which I don't think needs to be taxed as income, more than that they assume its a small business which needs to be taxed.
    Anyway, this is just a result of us getting away with not paying taxes for 20 years when buying stuff online. How long did we not pay taxes with Amazon or on an actual business just because they sold through ebay? If we didn't get away with avoiding taxes for 20 years, they probably wouldn't be worried about the private seller on paypal.
  • Jimmydean55
    Jimmydean55 Posts: 1,607
    All very true. I’m not exactly sure about deducting the original tax from your sale come tax time. Honestly, I was just frustrated that I had to pay another tax, so I didn’t even look into it. 
  • RoleModelsinBlood31
    RoleModelsinBlood31 Austin TX Posts: 6,252
    ymalkiel said:
    RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
    Man Grateful Dead box sets are suuuuper pricey.  Check out 30 trips around the sun or Europe 72 complete.... $1500 going rate. I picked up a bunch of their stuff recently by selling a bunch of useless vinyl.  I had no idea their stuff was so expensive!  The packaging is memorable though- felt lined carved wooden cases, amazing artwork, etc- pretty neat if you like things like that.  Also the cd’s are in ornate packaging too, really puts PJ’s chipboard sets to shame.

    then again the prices for those sets while in stock on their site are much more than most of PJ’s.

    anyway, check it out, it’s pretty eye opening as to the demand for their stuff and their fan base  vs PJ.
    The 30 Trips box from GD does go for a lot, but it was pretty pricey to begin with. I think I paid around $700 for it. Some of the other box sets have gone up significantly in value, though. A couple of the box sets that I spent $75 - $100 on go for $300 - $500 or more. I think the first Spring 1990 box set has sold for $1000. I think I paid $150 for that when it came out. 


    I just threw down on 30 trips.  I don’t care how much it cost me lol, I love box sets! Can’t wait to open the chest up.  
    I'm like an opening band for your mom.
  • ymalkiel
    ymalkiel Posts: 140
    RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
    ymalkiel said:
    RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
    Man Grateful Dead box sets are suuuuper pricey.  Check out 30 trips around the sun or Europe 72 complete.... $1500 going rate. I picked up a bunch of their stuff recently by selling a bunch of useless vinyl.  I had no idea their stuff was so expensive!  The packaging is memorable though- felt lined carved wooden cases, amazing artwork, etc- pretty neat if you like things like that.  Also the cd’s are in ornate packaging too, really puts PJ’s chipboard sets to shame.

    then again the prices for those sets while in stock on their site are much more than most of PJ’s.

    anyway, check it out, it’s pretty eye opening as to the demand for their stuff and their fan base  vs PJ.
    The 30 Trips box from GD does go for a lot, but it was pretty pricey to begin with. I think I paid around $700 for it. Some of the other box sets have gone up significantly in value, though. A couple of the box sets that I spent $75 - $100 on go for $300 - $500 or more. I think the first Spring 1990 box set has sold for $1000. I think I paid $150 for that when it came out. 


    I just threw down on 30 trips.  I don’t care how much it cost me lol, I love box sets! Can’t wait to open the chest up.  
    It’s a beauty, and the shows included are great choices. Enjoy!
    ✌🏼❤️

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