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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 22,765
     
    'Pure business' at Biden-Putin summit: No hugs, no brickbats
    By JONATHAN LEMIRE, VLADIMIR ISACHENKOV and AAMER MADHANI
    1 hour ago

    GENEVA (AP) — President Joe Biden and Russian President Vladimir Putin concluded their summit on Wednesday with an agreement to return their nations' ambassadors to their posts in Washington and Moscow and a plan to begin work toward replacing the last remaining treaty between the two countries limiting nuclear weapons.

    But the two leaders offered starkly different views on difficult simmering issues including cyber and ransomware attacks originating from Russia.

    Putin insisted anew that his country has nothing to do with such attacks, despite U..S. intelligence that indicates otherwise. Biden, meanwhile, said that he made clear to Putin that if Russia crossed certain red lines — including going after major American infrastructure — his administration would respond and “the consequences of that would be devastating,”

    Will Putin change his behavior? Biden was asked at a post-summit news conference.

    “I said what will change their behavior is if the rest of the world reacts” in a way that “diminishes their standing in the world," Biden said. "I’m not confident of anything. I’m just stating a fact.”

    Both leaders, who have stirred escalating tension since Biden took office in January, suggested that while an enormous chasm between the two nations remains the talks were constructive.

    Putin said there was “no hostility” during three hours of talks, a session that wrapped up more quickly than expected.

    When it was over, Putin had first crack at describing the results at a solo news conference, with Biden following soon after. Biden said they spent a “great deal of time” discussing cybersecurity and he believed Putin understood the U.S. position.

    “I pointed out to him, we have significant cyber capability," Biden said. "In fact, (if) they violate basic norms, we will respond. ... I think that the last thing he wants now is a Cold War.”

    Putin noted that Biden raised human rights issues with him, including the fate of opposition leader Alexei Navalny. Putin defended Navalny’s prison sentence and deflected repeated questions about mistreatment of Russian opposition leaders by highlighting U.S. domestic turmoil, including the Black Lives Matter protests and the Jan. 6 Capitol insurrection.

    Putin held forth for nearly an hour before international reporters. While showing defiance at queries about Biden pressing him on human rights, he also expressed respect for Biden as an experienced political leader.

    The Russian noted that Biden repeated wise advice his mother had given him and also spoke about his family — messaging that Putin said might not have been entirely relevant to their summit but demonstrated Biden's “moral values.” Though he raised doubt that the U.S.-Russia relationship could soon return to a measure of equilibrium of years past, Putin suggested that Biden was someone he could work with.

    “The meeting was actually very efficient,” Putin said. “It was substantive, it was specific. It was aimed at achieving results, and one of them was pushing back the frontiers of trust.”

    Putin said he and Biden agreed to begin negotiations on nuclear talks to potentially replace the New START treaty limiting nuclear weapons after it expires in 2026.

    Washington broke off talks with Moscow in 2014 in response to Russia’s annexation of Ukraine’s Crimea and its military intervention in support of separatists in eastern Ukraine. Talks resumed in 2017 but gained little traction and failed to produce an agreement on extending the New START treaty during the Trump administration.

    The Russian president said there was an agreement between the leaders to return their ambassadors to their respective postings. Both countries had pulled back their top envoys to Washington and Moscow as relations chilled in recent months.

    Russia’s ambassador to the U.S., Anatoly Antonov, was recalled from Washington about three months ago after Biden called Putin a killer; U.S. Ambassador to Russia John Sullivan left Moscow almost two months ago, after Russia suggested he return to Washington for consultations. Putin said that the ambassadors were expected to return their posts in the coming days.

    The meeting in a book-lined room had a somewhat awkward beginning — both men appeared to avoid looking directly at each other during a brief and chaotic photo opportunity before a scrum of jostling reporters.

    Biden nodded when a reporter asked if Putin could be trusted, but the White House quickly sent out a tweet insisting that the president was “very clearly not responding to any one question, but nodding in acknowledgment to the press generally.”

    Their body language, at least in their brief moments together in front of the press, was not exceptionally warm.

    The two leaders did shake hands — Biden extended his hand first and smiled at the stoic Russian leader — after Swiss President Guy Parmelin welcomed them to Switzerland for the summit. When they were in front of the cameras a few minutes later—this time inside the grand lakeside mansion where the summit was held—they seemed to avoid eye contact.

    For months, Biden and Putin have traded sharp rhetoric. Biden has repeatedly called out Putin for malicious cyberattacks by Russian-based hackers on U.S. interests, for the jailing of Russia's foremost opposition leader and for interference in American elections.

    Putin has reacted with whatabout-isms and denials — pointing to the Jan. 6 insurrection at the U.S. Capitol to argue that the U.S. has no business lecturing on democratic norms and insisting that the Russian government hasn't been involved in any election interference or cyberattacks despite U.S. intelligence showing otherwise.

    In advance of Wednesday's meeting, both sides set out to lower expectations.

    Even so, Biden said it would be an important step if the United States and Russia were able to ultimately find “stability and predictability" in their relationship, a significant goal for a president who sees Russia as one of America's crucial adversaries.

    Arrangements for the meeting were carefully choreographed and vigorously negotiated.

    Biden first floated the meeting in an April phone call in which he informed Putin that he would be expelling several Russian diplomats and imposing sanctions against dozens of people and companies, part of an effort to hold the Kremlin accountable for interference in last year’s presidential election and the hacking of federal agencies.

    The White House announced ahead of the summit that Biden wouldn't hold a joint news conference with Putin, deciding it did not want to appear to elevate Putin at a moment when the U.S. president is urging European allies to pressure Putin to cut out myriad provocations.

    Biden sees himself with few peers on foreign policy. He traveled the globe as a member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee and was given difficult foreign policy assignments by President Barack Obama when Biden was vice president. His portfolio included messy spots like Iraq and Ukraine and weighing the mettle of China's Xi Jinping during his rise to power.

    He has repeatedly said that he believes executing effective foreign policy comes from forming strong personal relations, and he has managed to find rapport with both the likes of Turkey's Recep Tayyip Erdogan, whom Biden has labeled an “autocrat,” and more conventional Western leaders including Canada's Justin Trudeau.

    But with Putin, who he once said has “no soul," Biden has long been wary. At the same time, he acknowledges that Putin, who has remained the most powerful figure in Russian politics over the span of five U.S. presidents, is not without talent.

    “He’s bright. He’s tough," Biden said earlier this week. “And I have found that he is a — as they say ... a worthy adversary."

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    Associated Press writer Zeke Miller in Washington and AP video journalist Daniel Kozin contributed reporting

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    This story has been corrected to show that Geneva is not Switzerland's capital.


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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 24,126
    edited June 17
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Boy oh boy, what a difference from the last guy. America is back. 
    Bahahaha. Lol. Angry dementia grandpa blew it. Embarrassing. But I guess if you only get rainbow unicorn news. 
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  • benjsbenjs Toronto, ONPosts: 8,452
    Boy oh boy, what a difference from the last guy. America is back. 
    Bahahaha. Lol. Angry dementia grandpa blew it. Embarrassing. But I guess if you only get rainbow unicorn news. 
    Amazing how bias seems to get in the way of perceiving reality as reality. If the world makes it through this "ignorance empowerment" movement, people will study the cognitive dissonance exhibited by you and your ilk, and the strategies of influence that were so incredibly effective against those incapable of critical thought, or just unwilling to use it.
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  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 6,086
    benjs said:
    Boy oh boy, what a difference from the last guy. America is back. 
    Bahahaha. Lol. Angry dementia grandpa blew it. Embarrassing. But I guess if you only get rainbow unicorn news. 
    Amazing how bias seems to get in the way of perceiving reality as reality. If the world makes it through this "ignorance empowerment" movement, people will study the cognitive dissonance exhibited by you and your ilk, and the strategies of influence that were so incredibly effective against those incapable of critical thought, or just unwilling to use it.

    Joseph Goebbels would have great admiration for the right wing propaganda campaign of the last 20 years if he were alive to see it. 
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 22,799
    Boy oh boy, what a difference from the last guy. America is back. 
    Bahahaha. Lol. Angry dementia grandpa blew it. Embarrassing. But I guess if you only get rainbow unicorn news. 
    Got another round at Torrey today??
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom'sPosts: 12,253
    Boy oh boy, what a difference from the last guy. America is back. 
    Bahahaha. Lol. Angry dementia grandpa blew it. Embarrassing. But I guess if you only get rainbow unicorn news. 
    If anything proves that Biden doesn't have dementia it would be that incident.  You need to come to grips that we have a real president again.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 28,876
    Boy oh boy, what a difference from the last guy. America is back. 
    Bahahaha. Lol. Angry dementia grandpa blew it. Embarrassing. But I guess if you only get rainbow unicorn news. 
    Isn’t it great though that we have a POTUS who can sit in a room of other world leaders, inclusive of one of our main adversaries, and sit on a chair not looking like he thinks he’s invisible and sitting on a toilet taking a massive dump?

    President Joe Biden, making the world great again. #MWGA
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon HeadstoniaPosts: 28,209
    when trump was an asshole to reporters (every single day): go trump! fuck the fake news!
    when biden is an asshole to reporters (and then apologizes): he has dementia! how embarrassing! he's not fit to be prez!
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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 24,126

    President Joe Biden, making the world great again. #MWGA
    lol
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there.Posts: 40,861
    edited June 17
    Boy oh boy, what a difference from the last guy. America is back. 
    Bahahaha. Lol. Angry dementia grandpa blew it. Embarrassing. But I guess if you only get rainbow unicorn news. 
    @OutofMyMindandTime

    Hey buddy. How was your round at Torrey Pines this past weekend? What'd ya shoot?!
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon HeadstoniaPosts: 28,209
    ^^^LMAO
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  • ^^^ LMAO more. 

    It was good. Thanks for asking. Did not play the Open course. Have a buddy that works for the PGA and he shot really good. Then went kayaking in La Jolla and skimmed over a large tiger shark. That was cool. How was your weekend?
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    ^^^ LMAO more. 

    It was good. Thanks for asking. Did not play the Open course. Have a buddy that works for the PGA and he shot really good. Then went kayaking in La Jolla and skimmed over a large tiger shark. That was cool. How was your weekend?

  • OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MNPosts: 3,897
    Boy oh boy, what a difference from the last guy. America is back. 
    Bahahaha. Lol. Angry dementia grandpa blew it. Embarrassing. But I guess if you only get rainbow unicorn news. 
    Projection. The idea that Biden is angry and Trump is not is beyond laughable.
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon HeadstoniaPosts: 28,209
    I think it's time to move beyond the trolls in these threads. seriously, every single thing they say about biden was applicable to trump 100x's worse. not worth it to even give their comments the oxygen they so desperately crave. 
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  • Perfect gif. So your like John and I'm Steve. I suppose life is tough selling shower curtain rings. Tough go at it. Enjoy your day. Whatever you do 
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 22,765
     
    Biden elevates energetic critic of Big Tech as top regulator
    By MARCY GORDON
    Today

    WASHINGTON (AP) — President Joe Biden on Tuesday installed an energetic critic of Big Tech as a top federal regulator at a time when the industry is under intense pressure from Congress, regulators and state attorneys general.

    The selection of legal scholar Lina Khan to head the Federal Trade Commission is seen as signaling a tough stance toward tech giants Facebook, Google, Amazon and Apple. Khan was sworn in as FTC chair just hours after the Senate confirmed her as one of five members of the commission on a 69-28 vote.

    Khan has been a professor at Columbia University Law School and burst onto the antitrust scene with her massive scholarly work in 2017 as a Yale law student, “Amazon’s Antitrust Paradox.” She helped lay the foundation for a new way of looking at antitrust law beyond the impact of big-company market dominance on consumer prices. As counsel to a House Judiciary antitrust panel in 2019 and 2020, she played a key role in a sweeping bipartisan investigation of the market power of the tech giants.

    At 32, she is believed to be the youngest chair in the history of the FTC, which polices competition and consumer protection in industry generally as well as digital privacy.

    “Lina brings deep knowledge and expertise to this role and will be a fearless champion for consumers," Sen. Elizabeth Warren, D-Mass., who has called for tech industry breakups, said in a statement. “Giant tech companies deserve the growing scrutiny they are facing, and consolidation is choking off competition across American industries. With Chair Khan at the helm, we have a huge opportunity to make big, structural change by reviving antitrust enforcement and fighting monopolies that threaten our economy, our society and our democracy.”

    Khan also was a legal adviser to Rohit Chopra, an FTC commissioner, and was previously legal director of the Open Markets Institute, an organization that advocates against corporate concentration.

    “It is a tremendous honor to have been selected by President Biden to lead the Federal Trade Commission,” Khan said in a statement. “I look forward to working with my colleagues to protect the public from corporate abuse.”

    Biden said as a presidential candidate that dismantling the big tech companies should be considered. He also has said he wants to see quickly crimped the social media companies’ long-held legal protections for speech on their platforms.

    Biden in March appointed Tim Wu, also an academic expert on antitrust and industry critic, as a special assistant to the president for technology and competition policy within the National Economic Council. Wu, like Khan a Columbia law professor, has been a senior adviser to the FTC and a senior enforcement attorney in the New York attorney general’s office.

    The tech industry, once lionized by lawmakers and presidents as an engine of innovation and jobs, has seen its political fortunes eroded in recent years. Calls have been rising to break up the Silicon Valley giants.

    Lawmakers of both parties champion stronger oversight of the tech industry, arguing that its massive market power is out of control, crushing smaller competitors and endangering consumers’ privacy. They say the companies hide behind a legal shield to allow false information to flourish on their social media networks or to entrench bias.

    Last fall the Trump Justice Department, joined by states, filed a ground-breaking antitrust lawsuit against Google, accusing the search giant of abusing its market dominance to stifle competition. That was followed in December by another big antitrust suit against Facebook, brought by the FTC and an array of states.

    Amazon and Apple are under scrutiny by antitrust enforcers at the Justice Department, now in Biden’s purview, and the independent, bipartisan FTC. Twitter has joined Facebook and Google in facing frequent run-ins with lawmakers over its policies for moderating content on its platform.

    A bipartisan group of House lawmakers, animated by the results of the Judiciary panel investigation of Facebook, Google, Amazon and Apple, proposed sweeping legislation Friday to rein in Big Tech, possibly forcing the giants to break up their businesses while making it harder for them to acquire others. Those kinds of mandated breakups through a legislative overhaul would be a radical step for Congress to take and could be a bridge too far for some Republican lawmakers.

    Some Republican lawmakers have denounced the new school of antitrust thought, championed by Khan and Wu and gaining currency among Democrats, that looks beyond the impact of big-company market dominance on consumer prices to its broader effects on industries, employees and communities.

    The school is called “hipster antitrust” by its detractors. With this approach, Democrats are seeking to use antitrust law not to promote competition but to advance social or environmental goals, the Republicans contend.


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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there.Posts: 40,861
    Perfect gif. So your like John and I'm Steve. I suppose life is tough selling shower curtain rings. Tough go at it. Enjoy your day. Whatever you do 
    As a general rule of thumb I always believe people when they brag about themselves on the internet.

    So, yeah, you played Torre Pines right before "The Open," but no, not that Torrey. And sure, you spent the rest of the day kayaking with tiger sharks even though you said you were surfing originally.

    I'm sure you broke 80. Congrats!
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 15,019
    The hypocrisy of the republicans saying Joe is soft on Putin is nuts.

    That said, I don't have a lot of faith in the guy that was #2 in an admin that made fun of a political opponent for saying Russia was the biggest threat to the US.  Joe and his buddy joked that the Cold War was over.  I don't have a lot of confidence in him on this.  Time will tell.
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 22,799
    The hypocrisy of the republicans saying Joe is soft on Putin is nuts.

    That said, I don't have a lot of faith in the guy that was #2 in an admin that made fun of a political opponent for saying Russia was the biggest threat to the US.  Joe and his buddy joked that the Cold War was over.  I don't have a lot of confidence in him on this.  Time will tell.
    So in 2007 you believed Russia was our biggest strategic threat?
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 28,876
    The hypocrisy of the republicans saying Joe is soft on Putin is nuts.

    That said, I don't have a lot of faith in the guy that was #2 in an admin that made fun of a political opponent for saying Russia was the biggest threat to the US.  Joe and his buddy joked that the Cold War was over.  I don't have a lot of confidence in him on this.  Time will tell.
    How dismissive. Oh the rage.
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     Kayak 2 hours. Try to keep up with me. Never bragging, but fuck life is great. Have pics but honestly never ever care what internet trolls say or want. Enjoy your day. 

    Now have to travel Door County. Take some yachts across lake Michigan and visit my friends at Casey's. Who wears a tux to golf? Weird. 
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there.Posts: 40,861
    edited June 18
    North course.  Golf 5 hours. Surf 3 hours
     Kayak 2 hours. Try to keep up with me. Never bragging, but fuck life is great. Have pics but honestly never ever care what internet trolls say or want. Enjoy your day. 

    Now have to travel Door County. Take some yachts across lake Michigan and visit my friends at Casey's. Who wears a tux to golf? Weird. 
    The story gets better each time it changes. I can't wait to see what happens next!


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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 15,019
    mrussel1 said:
    The hypocrisy of the republicans saying Joe is soft on Putin is nuts.

    That said, I don't have a lot of faith in the guy that was #2 in an admin that made fun of a political opponent for saying Russia was the biggest threat to the US.  Joe and his buddy joked that the Cold War was over.  I don't have a lot of confidence in him on this.  Time will tell.
    So in 2007 you believed Russia was our biggest strategic threat?
    There were people that did...that were made fun of.  What do I have to do with it?  When was I VP or President.  Clearly it was a big "oh shit".

    Nice deflection though.
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 15,019
    The hypocrisy of the republicans saying Joe is soft on Putin is nuts.

    That said, I don't have a lot of faith in the guy that was #2 in an admin that made fun of a political opponent for saying Russia was the biggest threat to the US.  Joe and his buddy joked that the Cold War was over.  I don't have a lot of confidence in him on this.  Time will tell.
    How dismissive. Oh the rage.
    Huh?  I can't understand you even when you aren't using long made up acronyms.
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 25,096
    Yeah the bar was set so low by idiot Trump administration that now everyone wants perfectionism from this administration lol it’s pathetic!
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  • oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BCPosts: 12,476
    North course.  Golf 5 hours. Surf 3 hours
     Kayak 2 hours. Try to keep up with me. Never bragging, but fuck life is great. Have pics but honestly never ever care what internet trolls say or want. Enjoy your day. 

    Now have to travel Door County. Take some yachts across lake Michigan and visit my friends at Casey's. Who wears a tux to golf? Weird. 
    Do you drive your Maserati at 185, too?
    my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon HeadstoniaPosts: 28,209
    North course.  Golf 5 hours. Surf 3 hours
     Kayak 2 hours. Try to keep up with me. Never bragging, but fuck life is great. Have pics but honestly never ever care what internet trolls say or want. Enjoy your day. 

    Now have to travel Door County. Take some yachts across lake Michigan and visit my friends at Casey's. Who wears a tux to golf? Weird. 
    The story gets better each time it changes. I can't wait to see what happens next!


    For your information: the North Course has been closed since April. 

    https://www.sandiego.gov/park-and-recreation/golf/torreypines



    hahahaha
    (Track 10 of The Headstones' Nickels For Your Nightmares)


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