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  • F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commetsPosts: 25,302
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    trump at 28%. that's awesome. 

    I honestly still have my doubts he'll do a second term. statistically speaking, it's hard for me to imagine. he'd finish his second term at what, 86?  that's bonkers. 
    He would be 82, same age as when Biden finishes his first I believe.
    Believe he's talking about Biden there, mace man....
    The poll was for 2024 and showed Trump. The comment was about Trump. Good reason to believe the following comment was again about Trump.
    Man, I don’t know why you try so hard to be such a sick. It’s getting old, rarely can I make a comment without you making it personal. Time to move on Juggs and find a new way to make yourself feel better. It’s getting sad at this point.
    What? Come on man.

    How did you take that so personally? You thought he was talking about Trump, I told you he actually meant Biden. That was the extent of my comment. What's the matter?



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  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 14,993
    trump at 28%. that's awesome. 

    I honestly still have my doubts he'll do a second term. statistically speaking, it's hard for me to imagine. he'd finish his second term at what, 86?  that's bonkers. 

    I know that the Harris polling really is much ado about stuffing at this point, but Trump is already beating her? YIKES
    So it's awesome that Trump is at 28% against Biden, you acknowledge you have doubts Biden will do a second term, but Harris' poll numbers are much ado about nothing? If the Harris vs. Trump poll is much ado about nothing because it's so early, then so isn't the Biden vs Trump poll. Or, if Trump at 28% against Biden is awesome, then Harris losing to him is whatever is the complete opposite of awesome is.

    Harris just isn't popular. That's why she had to drop out of the Democratic primary before the Iowa caucus. If Joe does decide to step aside after his first term, it wouldn't be a wise move to push Harris as the nominee. If she wins the nomination in a primary, then fine. But considering her a presumptive nominee just because she's the VP would be a mistake. 
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there.Posts: 40,527
    edited May 20
    I don't think it would be wise for them to just make her the nominee if Biden doesn't run either. But I disagree that she isn't popular. Her approval rating is right around where Pence's was at the 100 day mark and people obviously gave her considerably consideration last year due to Joe's age:
    https://www.newsweek.com/harris-pence-one-hundred-days-1586921

    Having an unsuccessful campaign doesn't necessarily mean she's unpopular. It just means there were better candidates. 

    I don't know for sure, but I am betting one thing that could be playing a big factor in her numbers not being higher is Biden naming her the point person on the border issue and then not hearing much from her after that. Obviously to the righties, that's a huge issue. 
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  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 14,993
    I agree with the border issue point. 
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon HeadstoniaPosts: 27,603
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    trump at 28%. that's awesome. 

    I honestly still have my doubts he'll do a second term. statistically speaking, it's hard for me to imagine. he'd finish his second term at what, 86?  that's bonkers. 
    He would be 82, same age as when Biden finishes his first I believe.
    Believe he's talking about Biden there, mace man....
    The poll was for 2024 and showed Trump. The comment was about Trump. Good reason to believe the following comment was again about Trump.
    Man, I don’t know why you try so hard to be such a sick. It’s getting old, rarely can I make a comment without you making it personal. Time to move on Juggs and find a new way to make yourself feel better. It’s getting sad at this point.
    I was referring to Biden in the "second term" comment. 

    I don't see how this comment towards you by Juggler is in any way personal. 
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon HeadstoniaPosts: 27,603
    trump at 28%. that's awesome. 

    I honestly still have my doubts he'll do a second term. statistically speaking, it's hard for me to imagine. he'd finish his second term at what, 86?  that's bonkers. 

    I know that the Harris polling really is much ado about stuffing at this point, but Trump is already beating her? YIKES
    So it's awesome that Trump is at 28% against Biden, you acknowledge you have doubts Biden will do a second term, but Harris' poll numbers are much ado about nothing? If the Harris vs. Trump poll is much ado about nothing because it's so early, then so isn't the Biden vs Trump poll. Or, if Trump at 28% against Biden is awesome, then Harris losing to him is whatever is the complete opposite of awesome is.

    Harris just isn't popular. That's why she had to drop out of the Democratic primary before the Iowa caucus. If Joe does decide to step aside after his first term, it wouldn't be a wise move to push Harris as the nominee. If she wins the nomination in a primary, then fine. But considering her a presumptive nominee just because she's the VP would be a mistake. 
    I only say Harri's poll numbers at this point are much ado about stuffing because she's the VP and has largely been seen doing not much of anything significant yet, at least that the public is aware of. I would have said the same if there was a poll with Pence vs Biden in 2017. 

    I do agree, however, that she isn't that popular. But I think VP's tend to get more popular as time goes on. the more positive exposure she gets, her numbers should probably go up. But I don't think she'd ever reach Trump numbers. 
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  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 6,229
    edited May 20
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    trump at 28%. that's awesome. 

    I honestly still have my doubts he'll do a second term. statistically speaking, it's hard for me to imagine. he'd finish his second term at what, 86?  that's bonkers. 
    He would be 82, same age as when Biden finishes his first I believe.
    Believe he's talking about Biden there, mace man....
    The poll was for 2024 and showed Trump. The comment was about Trump. Good reason to believe the following comment was again about Trump.
    Man, I don’t know why you try so hard to be such a sick. It’s getting old, rarely can I make a comment without you making it personal. Time to move on Juggs and find a new way to make yourself feel better. It’s getting sad at this point.
    I was referring to Biden in the "second term" comment. 

    I don't see how this comment towards you by Juggler is in any way personal. 
    I picked a pretty minor comment to respond to. But It’s a history. The “mace man...” was meant to be belittling. He’s been unable to have an adult conversation with me for months. It’s just old at this point. He needs to obsess over something else rather than every post I make. I stopped responding to his comments unless directed at mr a while ago, he needs to move on too.
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  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 14,993
    trump at 28%. that's awesome. 

    I honestly still have my doubts he'll do a second term. statistically speaking, it's hard for me to imagine. he'd finish his second term at what, 86?  that's bonkers. 

    I know that the Harris polling really is much ado about stuffing at this point, but Trump is already beating her? YIKES
    So it's awesome that Trump is at 28% against Biden, you acknowledge you have doubts Biden will do a second term, but Harris' poll numbers are much ado about nothing? If the Harris vs. Trump poll is much ado about nothing because it's so early, then so isn't the Biden vs Trump poll. Or, if Trump at 28% against Biden is awesome, then Harris losing to him is whatever is the complete opposite of awesome is.

    Harris just isn't popular. That's why she had to drop out of the Democratic primary before the Iowa caucus. If Joe does decide to step aside after his first term, it wouldn't be a wise move to push Harris as the nominee. If she wins the nomination in a primary, then fine. But considering her a presumptive nominee just because she's the VP would be a mistake. 
    I only say Harri's poll numbers at this point are much ado about stuffing because she's the VP and has largely been seen doing not much of anything significant yet, at least that the public is aware of. I would have said the same if there was a poll with Pence vs Biden in 2017. 

    I do agree, however, that she isn't that popular. But I think VP's tend to get more popular as time goes on. the more positive exposure she gets, her numbers should probably go up. But I don't think she'd ever reach Trump numbers. 
    That could be, but as Juggler pointed out, the thing she has been tasked with (the border) doesn't seem to be going so well. It's kinda like how Pence was "leading" the White House Coronovirus taks force. 
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there.Posts: 40,527
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    trump at 28%. that's awesome. 

    I honestly still have my doubts he'll do a second term. statistically speaking, it's hard for me to imagine. he'd finish his second term at what, 86?  that's bonkers. 
    He would be 82, same age as when Biden finishes his first I believe.
    Believe he's talking about Biden there, mace man....
    The poll was for 2024 and showed Trump. The comment was about Trump. Good reason to believe the following comment was again about Trump.
    Man, I don’t know why you try so hard to be such a sick. It’s getting old, rarely can I make a comment without you making it personal. Time to move on Juggs and find a new way to make yourself feel better. It’s getting sad at this point.
    I was referring to Biden in the "second term" comment. 

    I don't see how this comment towards you by Juggler is in any way personal. 
    I picked a pretty minor comment to respond to. But It’s a history. The “mace man...” was meant to be belittling. He’s been unable to have an adult conversation with me for months. It’s just old at this point. He needs to obsess over something else rather than every post I make. I stopped responding to his comments unless directed at mr a while ago, he needs to move on too.
    You're way too sensitive if you think "mace man" was meant to be belittling. How could that possibly be meant that way? It's no different than people calling me Juggs or something.

    Listen, rather than acting as if you know what I am thinking, if you have a problem with me, send me a dm so this thread doesn't get derailed over a meaningless misunderstanding. Sheesh. 
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there.Posts: 40,527
    trump at 28%. that's awesome. 

    I honestly still have my doubts he'll do a second term. statistically speaking, it's hard for me to imagine. he'd finish his second term at what, 86?  that's bonkers. 

    I know that the Harris polling really is much ado about stuffing at this point, but Trump is already beating her? YIKES
    So it's awesome that Trump is at 28% against Biden, you acknowledge you have doubts Biden will do a second term, but Harris' poll numbers are much ado about nothing? If the Harris vs. Trump poll is much ado about nothing because it's so early, then so isn't the Biden vs Trump poll. Or, if Trump at 28% against Biden is awesome, then Harris losing to him is whatever is the complete opposite of awesome is.

    Harris just isn't popular. That's why she had to drop out of the Democratic primary before the Iowa caucus. If Joe does decide to step aside after his first term, it wouldn't be a wise move to push Harris as the nominee. If she wins the nomination in a primary, then fine. But considering her a presumptive nominee just because she's the VP would be a mistake. 
    I only say Harri's poll numbers at this point are much ado about stuffing because she's the VP and has largely been seen doing not much of anything significant yet, at least that the public is aware of. I would have said the same if there was a poll with Pence vs Biden in 2017. 

    I do agree, however, that she isn't that popular. But I think VP's tend to get more popular as time goes on. the more positive exposure she gets, her numbers should probably go up. But I don't think she'd ever reach Trump numbers. 
    That could be, but as Juggler pointed out, the thing she has been tasked with (the border) doesn't seem to be going so well. It's kinda like how Pence was "leading" the White House Coronovirus taks force. 
    The right and fox news etc vilifies Kamala to no end and their hits on her work so much better than their attempts to do the same thing to Biden . I've read multiple articles about how the republicans are even gonna lay off Biden a bit in the midterms because they are finally coming to the understanding that nothing sticks to Joe. We've known the guy for years. We know he's not a socialist and all the other stuff they try to label him as. Kamala is just an easier target for them. Her being a minority woman is icing on the cake for the racist base of that party too. 
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  • OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MNPosts: 3,848
    trump at 28%. that's awesome. 

    I honestly still have my doubts he'll do a second term. statistically speaking, it's hard for me to imagine. he'd finish his second term at what, 86?  that's bonkers. 

    I know that the Harris polling really is much ado about stuffing at this point, but Trump is already beating her? YIKES
    So it's awesome that Trump is at 28% against Biden, you acknowledge you have doubts Biden will do a second term, but Harris' poll numbers are much ado about nothing? If the Harris vs. Trump poll is much ado about nothing because it's so early, then so isn't the Biden vs Trump poll. Or, if Trump at 28% against Biden is awesome, then Harris losing to him is whatever is the complete opposite of awesome is.

    Harris just isn't popular. That's why she had to drop out of the Democratic primary before the Iowa caucus. If Joe does decide to step aside after his first term, it wouldn't be a wise move to push Harris as the nominee. If she wins the nomination in a primary, then fine. But considering her a presumptive nominee just because she's the VP would be a mistake. 
    I only say Harri's poll numbers at this point are much ado about stuffing because she's the VP and has largely been seen doing not much of anything significant yet, at least that the public is aware of. I would have said the same if there was a poll with Pence vs Biden in 2017. 

    I do agree, however, that she isn't that popular. But I think VP's tend to get more popular as time goes on. the more positive exposure she gets, her numbers should probably go up. But I don't think she'd ever reach Trump numbers. 
    That could be, but as Juggler pointed out, the thing she has been tasked with (the border) doesn't seem to be going so well. It's kinda like how Pence was "leading" the White House Coronovirus taks force. 
    The right and fox news etc vilifies Kamala to no end and their hits on her work so much better than their attempts to do the same thing to Biden . I've read multiple articles about how the republicans are even gonna lay off Biden a bit in the midterms because they are finally coming to the understanding that nothing sticks to Joe. We've known the guy for years. We know he's not a socialist and all the other stuff they try to label him as. Kamala is just an easier target for them. Her being a minority woman is icing on the cake for the racist base of that party too. 
    That makes sense.  I laugh at the hard-core Trumpies and their "FUCK BIDEN" flags, etc. Biden's just the guy who happened to run against Dear Leader and most Trump-voters (i.e., those that would never participate in a coup and fly giant Trump flags from their vehicles) that Biden's just another mediocre Democrat. You have to actively try to make Biden some true enemy and those who do are going to do that with anyone. It's easier to go after people that were not as prevalent before the division got out of hand. And yes, her being a minority woman is going to make it easier. And yes, if the same ticket runs, I could see the GQP offsetting her with Candace Owens, but not all minority women are created equal in the eyes of the Cult. They can like her and still hate minority women that are left of Attila the Hun more than they do white males that are left of Attila the Hun.

    2024 is a ways off, but I can certainly see a scenario where Biden decides not to run and the Dems have to think really hard about moving on from her.

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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there.Posts: 40,527
    Candace Owens? You seriously think that has a chance of happening? There is waaaaaay too much baggage on her crazy ass to have a serious shot at something like that. She makes outlandish comments every fucking day. lol
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 28,649
    Candace Owens? You seriously think that has a chance of happening? There is waaaaaay too much baggage on her crazy ass to have a serious shot at something like that. She makes outlandish comments every fucking day. lol
    That's what got POOTWH elected.
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there.Posts: 40,527
    Candace Owens? You seriously think that has a chance of happening? There is waaaaaay too much baggage on her crazy ass to have a serious shot at something like that. She makes outlandish comments every fucking day. lol
    That's what got POOTWH elected.
    Hillary and Comey are the main reasons he got elected. Without them, he lost them the house, senate, and White House in consecutive cycles. Them putting her on the ticket would a dream come true for folks hoping to keep the white house away from that seditious cult. 
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon HeadstoniaPosts: 27,603
    even trump didn't bite on her begging him to let her be his VP. it was sad. 
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 28,649
    Candace Owens? You seriously think that has a chance of happening? There is waaaaaay too much baggage on her crazy ass to have a serious shot at something like that. She makes outlandish comments every fucking day. lol
    That's what got POOTWH elected.
    Hillary and Comey are the main reasons he got elected. Without them, he lost them the house, senate, and White House in consecutive cycles. Them putting her on the ticket would a dream come true for folks hoping to keep the white house away from that seditious cult. 
    Just saying that saying outlandish things everyday doesn't disqualify you from being the presidential or VP nominee, nor prevent you from being elected. POOTWH still garnered 75 million votes in 2020, after his outlandish comments increased  5-8Xs per day, for 4 fucking years. 'Murica. Freedumb. Woot.
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  • OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MNPosts: 3,848
    Candace Owens? You seriously think that has a chance of happening? There is waaaaaay too much baggage on her crazy ass to have a serious shot at something like that. She makes outlandish comments every fucking day. lol
    I put nothing past our elections.  I'm not laying money on it or anything.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 28,649
    Greatly disappointed in the Biden DOJ refusing to un-redact or release the full CYA Barr memo. While I understand the reasoning behind it, I think its of such import that an exception should be made. I'm holding out hope that the appeals court will order its release and/or President Biden is using it as some kind of leverage. More likely it remains buried for 50 years.
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    belongs here too

    May 26, 2021 (Wednesday)

    Today, President Joe Biden asked the intelligence community to increase its efforts to figure out where the coronavirus started. At stake is not only isolating the origins of a deadly pandemic to make sure the same mistakes are not made again, but also a new U.S. approach to China by the Biden administration.

    First, what this is not: a continuation of the Trump administration’s attempt to blame China for a bioweapon launched against the world as a way to deflect attention from the former president’s botched handling of the pandemic that has, at this point, left at least 592,000 Americans dead. Trump initially praised Chinese leader Xi Jinping for his handling of the coronavirus, but at the time the coronavirus first started to make its presence felt in the U.S.,Trump was celebrating a deal with China to purchase American agricultural products, a sale Trump believed would help him with farmers in the 2020 election after his tariffs had hamstrung the U.S. agricultural sector.

    Once the pandemic really hit and it became clear the administration had no real plan to handle it, Trump began to try to deflect blame onto China for hiding the origins of the coronavirus, and then onto the World Health Organization for deferring to China as it tried to respond to the crisis. As he called the novel coronavirus the “China virus”—drawn out like a schoolyard insult—attacks on Asian Americans skyrocketed. Trump supporters, like Senator Tom Cotton (R-AR), implied that the Chinese had released the virus as a bioweapon.

    Now, as scientists revisit the question of whether the coronavirus escaped from the Wuhan Institute of Virology in China, Cotton is suggesting he was right all along. But, in fact, Biden’s demand for a fact-based investigation is not an attempt to scapegoat China and Americans of Chinese descent for political points at home—after all, he just signed a bill to combat hate crimes against Asian Americans—rather, it appears to be an attempt to advance a new China policy based on clear-eyed competition as opposed to the attempts at cooperation that have characterized U.S. policy since Nixon.

    At the same time, this policy stands a good chance of undercutting the support Trump garnered among workers who resented losing their jobs to China, without adopting Trump’s isolationism. (Trump’s own merchandise was made overseas, including in China.)

    Biden has been very clear that he sees the nation’s foreign policy as key to his attempt to rebuild America. His National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan has emphasized that the Biden administration has called for a “foreign policy for the middle class” that prioritizes protecting the American worker from foreign competition and making sure that American industry stays strong and provides good jobs. Repairing the economy and democracy at home is a way to keep the nation strong and safe from international aggression, Biden officials say.

    And China is the country to which Biden is looking. In his address to Congress on April 28, Biden said: “America is moving—moving forward—but we can’t stop now.  We’re in competition with China and other countries to win the 21st Century.  We’re at a great inflection point in history.” He vowed to make “sure every nation plays by the same rules in the global economy, including China,” and said the U.S. would “stand up to unfair trade practices that undercut American workers and American industries, like subsidies...to state-owned… enterprises and the theft of American technology and intellectual property.”

    Today, Kurt Campbell, the Biden administration’s top official for Asia, said that the era of cooperation with China has come to an end and the two countries are entering a period of competition. The U.S. intends to address that competition by strengthening our traditional alliances. Meanwhile, the president and Secretary of State Antony Blinken are using the need to compete with China as an incentive to rebuild our domestic economy. In his April 28 address to Congress, Biden said he told President Xi, “We welcome the competition. We’re not looking for conflict.”

    Like President Biden, Blinken insists the shift in the nation’s stance toward China is not antagonistic, as the previous administration’s was, but realistic. In an interview with Financial Times, Blinken said, "This is not about initiating a Cold War. This is all about doing our part to make sure that democracy is strong, resilient, and meeting the needs of its people." He continued: "You know what we've seen over the last 15 years is unfortunately something of a democratic recession around the world: countries falling back on the basic metrics of democracy. The United States has had its own challenges visible for the world to see when it comes to democracy."

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  • RoleModelsinBlood31RoleModelsinBlood31 Austin TXPosts: 5,788
    Sleepy guy is also mega creepy guy.

    commenting on how a 6 year old girl looks like she’s 19 with her legs crossed.  Things get to cringe creep level starting at :35. Come on man, that’s just sick!

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hKLHVLXtxfo
    I'm like an opening band for your mom.
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 22,531
    Sleepy guy is also mega creepy guy.

    commenting on how a 6 year old girl looks like she’s 19 with her legs crossed.  Things get to cringe creep level starting at :35. Come on man, that’s just sick!

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hKLHVLXtxfo
    He's saying she looks like a young lady, not that he thinks she's hot. Get your head out the gutter.  WTF is the matter with you anyway?
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 28,649
    Projection. It’s a thing amongst POOTWH’s adherents.
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  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, ColoradoPosts: 9,021
    mrussel1 said:
    Sleepy guy is also mega creepy guy.

    commenting on how a 6 year old girl looks like she’s 19 with her legs crossed.  Things get to cringe creep level starting at :35. Come on man, that’s just sick!

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hKLHVLXtxfo
    He's saying she looks like a young lady, not that he thinks she's hot. Get your head out the gutter.  WTF is the matter with you anyway?
    I believe it is known as trolling in homage to the ex-troll-in-chief whom we know liked teenaged girls.

    All part of being a member of cult-45
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 22,531
    mrussel1 said:
    Sleepy guy is also mega creepy guy.

    commenting on how a 6 year old girl looks like she’s 19 with her legs crossed.  Things get to cringe creep level starting at :35. Come on man, that’s just sick!

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hKLHVLXtxfo
    He's saying she looks like a young lady, not that he thinks she's hot. Get your head out the gutter.  WTF is the matter with you anyway?
    I believe it is known as trolling in homage to the ex-troll-in-chief whom we know liked teenaged girls.

    All part of being a member of cult-45
    Kind of like how they suddenly cared about children at the border?  What a crock that was. 
  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain.Posts: 34,811
    God dammit! I tried Googling "POOTWH " and got nothing.  Fucking acronyms.  ARGH!!!  :lol:
    "The earth- we could have saved it but we were too damn cheap and lazy."
    -Kurt Vonnegut










  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 28,649
    Previous Occupant Of The White House. POOTWH.
    09/15/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/29/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield, MA; 08/18/08, O2 London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA;

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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 22,438
    Previous Occupant Of The White House. POOTWH.

    about that acronym definition thread........
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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain.Posts: 34,811
    mickeyrat said:
    Previous Occupant Of The White House. POOTWH.

    about that acronym definition thread........

    :plus_one:
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 25,052
    Sleepy guy is also mega creepy guy.

    commenting on how a 6 year old girl looks like she’s 19 with her legs crossed.  Things get to cringe creep level starting at :35. Come on man, that’s just sick!

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hKLHVLXtxfo
    lol ok pizza guy what’s going on in your basement of your pizza parlor? 
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
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