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its weird because there are these things called satellites that are probably better capable of spying than the balloon. surprised china didn't just opt for the satellite route instead.mace1229 said:Don’t think this deserves a new thread, so throwing it in here.
Why aren’t we doing anything about the China balloon? Seems odd to let a “surveillance” balloon float accords the entire United States over multiple days."You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
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Shoot that dang ballon down!!gimmesometruth27 said:
its weird because there are these things called satellites that are probably better capable of spying than the balloon. surprised china didn't just opt for the satellite route instead.mace1229 said:Don’t think this deserves a new thread, so throwing it in here.
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Biden says they'll take care of it....my guess is they want to preserve it as much as possible rather than let it plunge to earth and destroy potentially good intelRemember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
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A hacker managed to get a screenshot of the spy ballon’s footage
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And it’s been reported that the pentagon wanted to see if it’d land at Mar-I-Lieo. Or if Hillary is at the controls. It’s already known Hunter was a big investor of the company that made the balloon and “other” technology.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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I just find it hard to believe there isn’t a place over Montana, SD or Kansas where there wasn’t a place without people on the ground at riskThe Juggler said:
They probably don't want to kill any people or damage property by shooting it down. Better to wait till it gets into the Atlantic and try to preserve as much of it as possible so we can learn/steal the technology. I've also heard this isn't the first time this has happened and we do the same type of stuff. Difference here is the Chinese screwed up somehow.mace1229 said:Don’t think this deserves a new thread, so throwing it in here.
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US downs Chinese balloon over ocean, moves to recover debrisBy ZEKE MILLER, MICHAEL BALSAMO, COLLEEN LONG and AAMER MADHANI1 minute ago
WASHINGTON (AP) — The United States on Saturday downed a suspected Chinese spy balloon off the Carolina coast after it traversed sensitive military sites across North America and became the latest flashpoint in tensions between Washington and Beijing.
An operation was underway in U.S. territorial waters in the Atlantic Ocean to recover debris from the balloon, which had been flying at about 60,000 feet and was estimated to be about the size of three school buses.
President Joe Biden had told reporters earlier Saturday that "we’re going to take care of it,” when asked about the balloon. The Federal Aviation Administration and Coast Guard worked to clear the airspace and water below the balloon as it reached the ocean.
Television footage showed a small explosion, followed by the balloon descending toward the water. U.S. military jets were seen flying in the vicinity and ships were deployed in the water to mount the recovery operation.
Officials were aiming to time the operation so they could recover as much of the debris as possible before it sinks into the ocean. The Pentagon had previously estimated that any debris field would be substantial.
The balloon was spotted Saturday morning over the Carolinas as it approached the coast. In preparation for the operation, the FAA Administration temporarily closed airspace over the Carolina coastline, including the airports in Charleston and Myrtle Beach, South Carolina, and Wilmington, North Carolina. The FAA rerouted air traffic from the area and warned of delays as a result of the flight restrictions.
The Coast Guard advised mariners to immediately leave the area because of U.S. military operations “that present a significant hazard.”
Biden had been inclined to down the balloon over land when he was first briefed on it on Tuesday, but Pentagon officials advised against it, warning that the potential risk to people on the ground outweighed the assessment of potential Chinese intelligence gains.
The public disclosure of the balloon this week prompted the cancellation of a visit by U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken to Beijing scheduled for Sunday for talks aimed at reducing U.S.-China tensions. The Chinese government on Saturday sought to play down the cancellation.
“In actuality, the U.S. and China have never announced any visit, the U.S. making any such announcement is their own business, and we respect that," China’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs said in a statement Saturday morning.
China has continued to claim that the balloon was merely a weather research “airship” that had been blown off course. The Pentagon rejected that out of hand — as well as China’s contention that it was not being used for surveillance and had only limited navigational ability.
The balloon was spotted over Montana, which is home to one of America’s three nuclear missile silo fields at Malmstrom Air Force Base.
The Pentagon also acknowledged reports of a second balloon flying over Latin America. “We now assess it is another Chinese surveillance balloon,” Brig. Gen. Pat Ryder, Pentagon press secretary, said in a statement.
China’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs did not immediately respond to a question about the second balloon.
Blinken, who had been due to depart Washington for Beijing late Friday, said he had told senior Chinese diplomat Wang Yi in a phone call that sending the balloon over the U.S. was “an irresponsible act and that (China’s) decision to take this action on the eve of my visit is detrimental to the substantive discussions that we were prepared to have.”
Uncensored reactions on the Chinese internet mirrored the official government stance that the U.S. was hyping the situation. Some used it as a chance to poke fun at U.S. defenses, saying it couldn’t even defend against a balloon, and nationalist influencers leapt to use the news to mock the U.S.
China has denied any claims of spying and said it is a civilian-use balloon intended for meteorology research. The Ministry of Foreign Affairs emphasized that the balloon's journey was out of its control and urged the U.S. not to “smear” it based on the balloon.
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Associated Press writer Huizhong Wu in Taipei and researcher Henry Hou in Beijing contributed to this report.
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And then have to deal with the anti-government folks claiming black ops trespassing and get into a shootout? No thanks.mace1229 said:
I just find it hard to believe there isn’t a place over Montana, SD or Kansas where there wasn’t a place without people on the ground at riskThe Juggler said:
They probably don't want to kill any people or damage property by shooting it down. Better to wait till it gets into the Atlantic and try to preserve as much of it as possible so we can learn/steal the technology. I've also heard this isn't the first time this has happened and we do the same type of stuff. Difference here is the Chinese screwed up somehow.mace1229 said:Don’t think this deserves a new thread, so throwing it in here.
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Oh damn you Brandon!mickeyrat said:US downs Chinese balloon over ocean, moves to recover debrisBy ZEKE MILLER, MICHAEL BALSAMO, COLLEEN LONG and AAMER MADHANI1 minute agoWASHINGTON (AP) — The United States on Saturday downed a suspected Chinese spy balloon off the Carolina coast after it traversed sensitive military sites across North America and became the latest flashpoint in tensions between Washington and Beijing.
An operation was underway in U.S. territorial waters in the Atlantic Ocean to recover debris from the balloon, which had been flying at about 60,000 feet and was estimated to be about the size of three school buses.
President Joe Biden had told reporters earlier Saturday that "we’re going to take care of it,” when asked about the balloon. The Federal Aviation Administration and Coast Guard worked to clear the airspace and water below the balloon as it reached the ocean.
Television footage showed a small explosion, followed by the balloon descending toward the water. U.S. military jets were seen flying in the vicinity and ships were deployed in the water to mount the recovery operation.
Officials were aiming to time the operation so they could recover as much of the debris as possible before it sinks into the ocean. The Pentagon had previously estimated that any debris field would be substantial.
The balloon was spotted Saturday morning over the Carolinas as it approached the coast. In preparation for the operation, the FAA Administration temporarily closed airspace over the Carolina coastline, including the airports in Charleston and Myrtle Beach, South Carolina, and Wilmington, North Carolina. The FAA rerouted air traffic from the area and warned of delays as a result of the flight restrictions.
The Coast Guard advised mariners to immediately leave the area because of U.S. military operations “that present a significant hazard.”
Biden had been inclined to down the balloon over land when he was first briefed on it on Tuesday, but Pentagon officials advised against it, warning that the potential risk to people on the ground outweighed the assessment of potential Chinese intelligence gains.
The public disclosure of the balloon this week prompted the cancellation of a visit by U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken to Beijing scheduled for Sunday for talks aimed at reducing U.S.-China tensions. The Chinese government on Saturday sought to play down the cancellation.
“In actuality, the U.S. and China have never announced any visit, the U.S. making any such announcement is their own business, and we respect that," China’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs said in a statement Saturday morning.
China has continued to claim that the balloon was merely a weather research “airship” that had been blown off course. The Pentagon rejected that out of hand — as well as China’s contention that it was not being used for surveillance and had only limited navigational ability.
The balloon was spotted over Montana, which is home to one of America’s three nuclear missile silo fields at Malmstrom Air Force Base.
The Pentagon also acknowledged reports of a second balloon flying over Latin America. “We now assess it is another Chinese surveillance balloon,” Brig. Gen. Pat Ryder, Pentagon press secretary, said in a statement.
China’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs did not immediately respond to a question about the second balloon.
Blinken, who had been due to depart Washington for Beijing late Friday, said he had told senior Chinese diplomat Wang Yi in a phone call that sending the balloon over the U.S. was “an irresponsible act and that (China’s) decision to take this action on the eve of my visit is detrimental to the substantive discussions that we were prepared to have.”
Uncensored reactions on the Chinese internet mirrored the official government stance that the U.S. was hyping the situation. Some used it as a chance to poke fun at U.S. defenses, saying it couldn’t even defend against a balloon, and nationalist influencers leapt to use the news to mock the U.S.
China has denied any claims of spying and said it is a civilian-use balloon intended for meteorology research. The Ministry of Foreign Affairs emphasized that the balloon's journey was out of its control and urged the U.S. not to “smear” it based on the balloon.
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Associated Press writer Huizhong Wu in Taipei and researcher Henry Hou in Beijing contributed to this report.
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Oh damn you Brandon!mickeyrat said:US downs Chinese balloon over ocean, moves to recover debrisBy ZEKE MILLER, MICHAEL BALSAMO, COLLEEN LONG and AAMER MADHANI1 minute agoWASHINGTON (AP) — The United States on Saturday downed a suspected Chinese spy balloon off the Carolina coast after it traversed sensitive military sites across North America and became the latest flashpoint in tensions between Washington and Beijing.
An operation was underway in U.S. territorial waters in the Atlantic Ocean to recover debris from the balloon, which had been flying at about 60,000 feet and was estimated to be about the size of three school buses.
President Joe Biden had told reporters earlier Saturday that "we’re going to take care of it,” when asked about the balloon. The Federal Aviation Administration and Coast Guard worked to clear the airspace and water below the balloon as it reached the ocean.
Television footage showed a small explosion, followed by the balloon descending toward the water. U.S. military jets were seen flying in the vicinity and ships were deployed in the water to mount the recovery operation.
Officials were aiming to time the operation so they could recover as much of the debris as possible before it sinks into the ocean. The Pentagon had previously estimated that any debris field would be substantial.
The balloon was spotted Saturday morning over the Carolinas as it approached the coast. In preparation for the operation, the FAA Administration temporarily closed airspace over the Carolina coastline, including the airports in Charleston and Myrtle Beach, South Carolina, and Wilmington, North Carolina. The FAA rerouted air traffic from the area and warned of delays as a result of the flight restrictions.
The Coast Guard advised mariners to immediately leave the area because of U.S. military operations “that present a significant hazard.”
Biden had been inclined to down the balloon over land when he was first briefed on it on Tuesday, but Pentagon officials advised against it, warning that the potential risk to people on the ground outweighed the assessment of potential Chinese intelligence gains.
The public disclosure of the balloon this week prompted the cancellation of a visit by U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken to Beijing scheduled for Sunday for talks aimed at reducing U.S.-China tensions. The Chinese government on Saturday sought to play down the cancellation.
“In actuality, the U.S. and China have never announced any visit, the U.S. making any such announcement is their own business, and we respect that," China’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs said in a statement Saturday morning.
China has continued to claim that the balloon was merely a weather research “airship” that had been blown off course. The Pentagon rejected that out of hand — as well as China’s contention that it was not being used for surveillance and had only limited navigational ability.
The balloon was spotted over Montana, which is home to one of America’s three nuclear missile silo fields at Malmstrom Air Force Base.
The Pentagon also acknowledged reports of a second balloon flying over Latin America. “We now assess it is another Chinese surveillance balloon,” Brig. Gen. Pat Ryder, Pentagon press secretary, said in a statement.
China’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs did not immediately respond to a question about the second balloon.
Blinken, who had been due to depart Washington for Beijing late Friday, said he had told senior Chinese diplomat Wang Yi in a phone call that sending the balloon over the U.S. was “an irresponsible act and that (China’s) decision to take this action on the eve of my visit is detrimental to the substantive discussions that we were prepared to have.”
Uncensored reactions on the Chinese internet mirrored the official government stance that the U.S. was hyping the situation. Some used it as a chance to poke fun at U.S. defenses, saying it couldn’t even defend against a balloon, and nationalist influencers leapt to use the news to mock the U.S.
China has denied any claims of spying and said it is a civilian-use balloon intended for meteorology research. The Ministry of Foreign Affairs emphasized that the balloon's journey was out of its control and urged the U.S. not to “smear” it based on the balloon.
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Associated Press writer Huizhong Wu in Taipei and researcher Henry Hou in Beijing contributed to this report.
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These things called satellites orbit much higher than this balloon. Easy to assume they aren’t getting the same information.gimmesometruth27 said:
its weird because there are these things called satellites that are probably better capable of spying than the balloon. surprised china didn't just opt for the satellite route instead.mace1229 said:Don’t think this deserves a new thread, so throwing it in here.
Why aren’t we doing anything about the China balloon? Seems odd to let a “surveillance” balloon float accords the entire United States over multiple days.Post edited by mace1229 on0 -
Looks like it was shot down an hour ago over the SC coastline0
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I would like to think our federal government has the ability to arrive at a remote location before some hicks, especially if the location was preppanned.Halifax2TheMax said:
And then have to deal with the anti-government folks claiming black ops trespassing and get into a shootout? No thanks.mace1229 said:
I just find it hard to believe there isn’t a place over Montana, SD or Kansas where there wasn’t a place without people on the ground at riskThe Juggler said:
They probably don't want to kill any people or damage property by shooting it down. Better to wait till it gets into the Atlantic and try to preserve as much of it as possible so we can learn/steal the technology. I've also heard this isn't the first time this has happened and we do the same type of stuff. Difference here is the Chinese screwed up somehow.mace1229 said:Don’t think this deserves a new thread, so throwing it in here.
Why aren’t we doing anything about the China balloon? Seems odd to let a “surveillance” balloon float accords the entire United States over multiple days.
But looks like they were just waiting until it arrived at the coast. Don’t know if I agree with the decision to let it fly for 3 more days In order to preserve it. If that is the reason why.0 -
There are some pretty remote and inaccessible spots in Montana and lots of heavily armed hicks and population centres in all three states going on and on about trampled rights, freedumb and government overreach. Not to mention the US Navy’s and Coast Guard’s ability to retrieve wreckage at sea with zero population or damn close to it. How they handled it makes sense to me.mace1229 said:
I would like to think our federal government has the ability to arrive at a remote location before some hicks, especially if the location was preppanned.Halifax2TheMax said:
And then have to deal with the anti-government folks claiming black ops trespassing and get into a shootout? No thanks.mace1229 said:
I just find it hard to believe there isn’t a place over Montana, SD or Kansas where there wasn’t a place without people on the ground at riskThe Juggler said:
They probably don't want to kill any people or damage property by shooting it down. Better to wait till it gets into the Atlantic and try to preserve as much of it as possible so we can learn/steal the technology. I've also heard this isn't the first time this has happened and we do the same type of stuff. Difference here is the Chinese screwed up somehow.mace1229 said:Don’t think this deserves a new thread, so throwing it in here.
Why aren’t we doing anything about the China balloon? Seems odd to let a “surveillance” balloon float accords the entire United States over multiple days.
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Yeah I think it's fine. Maga would complain either way.Halifax2TheMax said:
There are some pretty remote and inaccessible spots in Montana and lots of heavily armed hicks and population centres in all three states going on and on about trampled rights, freedumb and government overreach. Not to mention the US Navy’s and Coast Guard’s ability to retrieve wreckage at sea with zero population or damn close to it. How they handled it makes sense to me.mace1229 said:
I would like to think our federal government has the ability to arrive at a remote location before some hicks, especially if the location was preppanned.Halifax2TheMax said:
And then have to deal with the anti-government folks claiming black ops trespassing and get into a shootout? No thanks.mace1229 said:
I just find it hard to believe there isn’t a place over Montana, SD or Kansas where there wasn’t a place without people on the ground at riskThe Juggler said:
They probably don't want to kill any people or damage property by shooting it down. Better to wait till it gets into the Atlantic and try to preserve as much of it as possible so we can learn/steal the technology. I've also heard this isn't the first time this has happened and we do the same type of stuff. Difference here is the Chinese screwed up somehow.mace1229 said:Don’t think this deserves a new thread, so throwing it in here.
Why aren’t we doing anything about the China balloon? Seems odd to let a “surveillance” balloon float accords the entire United States over multiple days.
But looks like they were just waiting until it arrived at the coast. Don’t know if I agree with the decision to let it fly for 3 more days In order to preserve it. If that is the reason why.www.myspace.com0 -
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It doesn’t make sense to me for a country to send a balloon over another country knowing it can be shot down pretty easily and than they’ve given their spy tech to the other country.mace1229 said:
These things called satellites orbit much higher than this balloon. Easy to assume they aren’t getting the same information.gimmesometruth27 said:
its weird because there are these things called satellites that are probably better capable of spying than the balloon. surprised china didn't just opt for the satellite route instead.mace1229 said:Don’t think this deserves a new thread, so throwing it in here.
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maga would complain if we shot it down 3 days ago. can't win with those assholes. they want every single thing to be both ways.The Juggler said:
Yeah I think it's fine. Maga would complain either way.Halifax2TheMax said:
There are some pretty remote and inaccessible spots in Montana and lots of heavily armed hicks and population centres in all three states going on and on about trampled rights, freedumb and government overreach. Not to mention the US Navy’s and Coast Guard’s ability to retrieve wreckage at sea with zero population or damn close to it. How they handled it makes sense to me.mace1229 said:
I would like to think our federal government has the ability to arrive at a remote location before some hicks, especially if the location was preppanned.Halifax2TheMax said:
And then have to deal with the anti-government folks claiming black ops trespassing and get into a shootout? No thanks.mace1229 said:
I just find it hard to believe there isn’t a place over Montana, SD or Kansas where there wasn’t a place without people on the ground at riskThe Juggler said:
They probably don't want to kill any people or damage property by shooting it down. Better to wait till it gets into the Atlantic and try to preserve as much of it as possible so we can learn/steal the technology. I've also heard this isn't the first time this has happened and we do the same type of stuff. Difference here is the Chinese screwed up somehow.mace1229 said:Don’t think this deserves a new thread, so throwing it in here.
Why aren’t we doing anything about the China balloon? Seems odd to let a “surveillance” balloon float accords the entire United States over multiple days.
But looks like they were just waiting until it arrived at the coast. Don’t know if I agree with the decision to let it fly for 3 more days In order to preserve it. If that is the reason why."You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
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that is if you actually believe it is a spy balloon. i don't believe that it is.mace1229 said:
These things called satellites orbit much higher than this balloon. Easy to assume they aren’t getting the same information.gimmesometruth27 said:
its weird because there are these things called satellites that are probably better capable of spying than the balloon. surprised china didn't just opt for the satellite route instead.mace1229 said:Don’t think this deserves a new thread, so throwing it in here.
Why aren’t we doing anything about the China balloon? Seems odd to let a “surveillance” balloon float accords the entire United States over multiple days.
maybe it was just what the chinese said it is. i am sure they have gathered more information about people with tik tok and their online activity than a balloon flying over their city."You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
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