#46 President Joe Biden

gimmesometruth27

mrussel1 said:

Biden has had an interesting international week.  

1. He announced that we would not be sending diplomats to China, to protest the human rights abuses.  Because he's an actual leader, several western countries are now following suit.  I expect even more.  I like this middle ground because I would not support a full boycott like in 1980.  This is a good compromise position.

2. Call with Putin to lay out the potential economic sanctions to come.  Most importantly, the work with allies to get them on board to do the same.  When you deal with oligarchs, you hit them where it hurts.  Russia is a poor country, with a GDP much smaller than CA.  They need the international market.  This won't be easy since much of eastern Europe, specifically Germany, gets its natural gas from Russia.  IF he pulls this off and de-escalates, it will be a master stroke.  And no one but wonks will notice...

3. Supported the arms sale to Saudi Arabia, which passed the senate like 2-1.  This is a tough one for me, because I hate SA and I think their war on Yeman is criminal.  At the same time, if we don't provide them with missiles, they will lose refineries to Iranian backed Houthis who have been targeting the refineries.  And I only care about that because it affects oil prices.

Also, oil is down to like $65 a barrel.  Gas is under $3 here in VA.  So I think things will continue to fall, coupled with great job numbers and a GDP that is estimated between 6-9%!!!  I think by the spring, the narrative on teh economy will be much different. 

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static111

mrussel1 said:

Biden has had an interesting international week.  

1. He announced that we would not be sending diplomats to China, to protest the human rights abuses.  Because he's an actual leader, several western countries are now following suit.  I expect even more.  I like this middle ground because I would not support a full boycott like in 1980.  This is a good compromise position.

2. Call with Putin to lay out the potential economic sanctions to come.  Most importantly, the work with allies to get them on board to do the same.  When you deal with oligarchs, you hit them where it hurts.  Russia is a poor country, with a GDP much smaller than CA.  They need the international market.  This won't be easy since much of eastern Europe, specifically Germany, gets its natural gas from Russia.  IF he pulls this off and de-escalates, it will be a master stroke.  And no one but wonks will notice...

3. Supported the arms sale to Saudi Arabia, which passed the senate like 2-1.  This is a tough one for me, because I hate SA and I think their war on Yeman is criminal.  At the same time, if we don't provide them with missiles, they will lose refineries to Iranian backed Houthis who have been targeting the refineries.  And I only care about that because it affects oil prices.

Also, oil is down to like $65 a barrel.  Gas is under $3 here in VA.  So I think things will continue to fall, coupled with great job numbers and a GDP that is estimated between 6-9%!!!  I think by the spring, the narrative on teh economy will be much different. 

I'm with you on Saudi Arabia.  Lose Lose situation.  I hope the threat of sanctions works for Russia.  I fear what will happen if Putin actually just says fuck it and still decides to make it a military action.  For now Biden's move seems to be the right choice, provided Putin sees reason.

gimmesometruth27

static111 said:

mrussel1 said:

Biden has had an interesting international week.  

1. He announced that we would not be sending diplomats to China, to protest the human rights abuses.  Because he's an actual leader, several western countries are now following suit.  I expect even more.  I like this middle ground because I would not support a full boycott like in 1980.  This is a good compromise position.

2. Call with Putin to lay out the potential economic sanctions to come.  Most importantly, the work with allies to get them on board to do the same.  When you deal with oligarchs, you hit them where it hurts.  Russia is a poor country, with a GDP much smaller than CA.  They need the international market.  This won't be easy since much of eastern Europe, specifically Germany, gets its natural gas from Russia.  IF he pulls this off and de-escalates, it will be a master stroke.  And no one but wonks will notice...

3. Supported the arms sale to Saudi Arabia, which passed the senate like 2-1.  This is a tough one for me, because I hate SA and I think their war on Yeman is criminal.  At the same time, if we don't provide them with missiles, they will lose refineries to Iranian backed Houthis who have been targeting the refineries.  And I only care about that because it affects oil prices.

Also, oil is down to like $65 a barrel.  Gas is under $3 here in VA.  So I think things will continue to fall, coupled with great job numbers and a GDP that is estimated between 6-9%!!!  I think by the spring, the narrative on teh economy will be much different. 

I'm with you on Saudi Arabia.  Lose Lose situation.  I hope the threat of sanctions works for Russia.  I fear what will happen if Putin actually just says fuck it and still decides to make it a military action.  For now Biden's move seems to be the right choice, provided Putin sees reason.

putin needs to realize this is chess. not fucking "go fish" like he used to play with trump.

static111

gimmesometruth27 said:

static111 said:

mrussel1 said:

Biden has had an interesting international week.  

1. He announced that we would not be sending diplomats to China, to protest the human rights abuses.  Because he's an actual leader, several western countries are now following suit.  I expect even more.  I like this middle ground because I would not support a full boycott like in 1980.  This is a good compromise position.

2. Call with Putin to lay out the potential economic sanctions to come.  Most importantly, the work with allies to get them on board to do the same.  When you deal with oligarchs, you hit them where it hurts.  Russia is a poor country, with a GDP much smaller than CA.  They need the international market.  This won't be easy since much of eastern Europe, specifically Germany, gets its natural gas from Russia.  IF he pulls this off and de-escalates, it will be a master stroke.  And no one but wonks will notice...

3. Supported the arms sale to Saudi Arabia, which passed the senate like 2-1.  This is a tough one for me, because I hate SA and I think their war on Yeman is criminal.  At the same time, if we don't provide them with missiles, they will lose refineries to Iranian backed Houthis who have been targeting the refineries.  And I only care about that because it affects oil prices.

Also, oil is down to like $65 a barrel.  Gas is under $3 here in VA.  So I think things will continue to fall, coupled with great job numbers and a GDP that is estimated between 6-9%!!!  I think by the spring, the narrative on teh economy will be much different. 

I'm with you on Saudi Arabia.  Lose Lose situation.  I hope the threat of sanctions works for Russia.  I fear what will happen if Putin actually just says fuck it and still decides to make it a military action.  For now Biden's move seems to be the right choice, provided Putin sees reason.

putin needs to realize this is chess. not fucking "go fish" like he used to play with trump.

What are you talking about? I thought Trump used to play 4D chess?

Halifax2TheMax

static111 said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

static111 said:

mrussel1 said:

Biden has had an interesting international week.  

1. He announced that we would not be sending diplomats to China, to protest the human rights abuses.  Because he's an actual leader, several western countries are now following suit.  I expect even more.  I like this middle ground because I would not support a full boycott like in 1980.  This is a good compromise position.

2. Call with Putin to lay out the potential economic sanctions to come.  Most importantly, the work with allies to get them on board to do the same.  When you deal with oligarchs, you hit them where it hurts.  Russia is a poor country, with a GDP much smaller than CA.  They need the international market.  This won't be easy since much of eastern Europe, specifically Germany, gets its natural gas from Russia.  IF he pulls this off and de-escalates, it will be a master stroke.  And no one but wonks will notice...

3. Supported the arms sale to Saudi Arabia, which passed the senate like 2-1.  This is a tough one for me, because I hate SA and I think their war on Yeman is criminal.  At the same time, if we don't provide them with missiles, they will lose refineries to Iranian backed Houthis who have been targeting the refineries.  And I only care about that because it affects oil prices.

Also, oil is down to like $65 a barrel.  Gas is under $3 here in VA.  So I think things will continue to fall, coupled with great job numbers and a GDP that is estimated between 6-9%!!!  I think by the spring, the narrative on teh economy will be much different. 

I'm with you on Saudi Arabia.  Lose Lose situation.  I hope the threat of sanctions works for Russia.  I fear what will happen if Putin actually just says fuck it and still decides to make it a military action.  For now Biden's move seems to be the right choice, provided Putin sees reason.

putin needs to realize this is chess. not fucking "go fish" like he used to play with trump.

What are you talking about? I thought Trump used to play 4D chess?

In all his brilliant brilliance of brilliancy, Kasparov like in his cunning.

gimmesometruth27

static111 said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

static111 said:

mrussel1 said:

Biden has had an interesting international week.  

1. He announced that we would not be sending diplomats to China, to protest the human rights abuses.  Because he's an actual leader, several western countries are now following suit.  I expect even more.  I like this middle ground because I would not support a full boycott like in 1980.  This is a good compromise position.

2. Call with Putin to lay out the potential economic sanctions to come.  Most importantly, the work with allies to get them on board to do the same.  When you deal with oligarchs, you hit them where it hurts.  Russia is a poor country, with a GDP much smaller than CA.  They need the international market.  This won't be easy since much of eastern Europe, specifically Germany, gets its natural gas from Russia.  IF he pulls this off and de-escalates, it will be a master stroke.  And no one but wonks will notice...

3. Supported the arms sale to Saudi Arabia, which passed the senate like 2-1.  This is a tough one for me, because I hate SA and I think their war on Yeman is criminal.  At the same time, if we don't provide them with missiles, they will lose refineries to Iranian backed Houthis who have been targeting the refineries.  And I only care about that because it affects oil prices.

Also, oil is down to like $65 a barrel.  Gas is under $3 here in VA.  So I think things will continue to fall, coupled with great job numbers and a GDP that is estimated between 6-9%!!!  I think by the spring, the narrative on teh economy will be much different. 

I'm with you on Saudi Arabia.  Lose Lose situation.  I hope the threat of sanctions works for Russia.  I fear what will happen if Putin actually just says fuck it and still decides to make it a military action.  For now Biden's move seems to be the right choice, provided Putin sees reason.

putin needs to realize this is chess. not fucking "go fish" like he used to play with trump.

What are you talking about? I thought Trump used to play 4D chess?

maybe it was connect 4?

i can see trump saying something like "pretty sneaky, vlad" when putin would somehow get four red checkers lined up in a row.

gimmesometruth27

https://youtu.be/KN3nohBw_CE

The Juggler

Joe might be starting to come out of his slump. Average disapproval down about 2% and approval up 1% over the last few weeks. Starting to see more polling with him in the upper 40's lately...

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/biden-approval-rating/?cid=rrpromo

Halifax2TheMax

Fuck Joe Manchin. Strip him of his committee assignments and slow walk or eliminate all federal dollars to WV. Let a repub be a repub and let them do nothing for three years. Let ‘Muricans live in a fascist state. 

mrussel1

Halifax2TheMax said:

Fuck Joe Manchin. Strip him of his committee assignments and slow walk or eliminate all federal dollars to WV. Let a repub be a repub and let them do nothing for three years. Let ‘Muricans live in a fascist state. 

You do that, and he may switch parties.  Then we lose all chairs. 

HughFreakingDillon

why do some expect democrats to vote in lockstep with their party but expect republicans to "do the right thing" and break with theirs?

dankind

HughFreakingDillon said:

why do some expect democrats to vote in lockstep with their party but expect republicans to "do the right thing" and break with theirs?

Intolerance?

mickeyrat

 here is what Manchin has said.  I dont give a shit about the 170,000 children who are fareing better from those payments. I dont give a shit that 86% of west virgians with children  polled  said those payments made a "huge difference"  I only care that my rich grandchildren will have to pay for it.  

static111

Vote Blue No Matter Who!

dankind

mickeyrat said:

 here is what Manchin has said.  I dont give a shit about the 170,000 children who are fareing better from those payments. I dont give a shit that 86% of west virgians with children  polled  said those payments made a "huge difference"  I only care that my rich grandchildren will have to pay for it.  

Is that a direct quote? Source?

nicknyr15

HughFreakingDillon said:

why do some expect democrats to vote in lockstep with their party but expect republicans to "do the right thing" and break with theirs?

Right?

mickeyrat

dankind said:

mickeyrat said:

 here is what Manchin has said.  I dont give a shit about the 170,000 children who are fareing better from those payments. I dont give a shit that 86% of west virgians with children  polled  said those payments made a "huge difference"  I only care that my rich grandchildren will have to pay for it.  

Is that a direct quote? Source?

no. he's  raised the grandkids bullshit before and here.

the facts are 170k children in wv are seeing benefit. the polling is accurate too.

to me his actions say fuck them.

he is balking at 200 billion a year with just a one year extension on the child credit.

yet had ZERO issue raising the pentagons budget. a portion of which is borrowed money. WITH a defiant department not following auditing laws for all of government.

Halifax2TheMax

mrussel1 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Fuck Joe Manchin. Strip him of his committee assignments and slow walk or eliminate all federal dollars to WV. Let a repub be a repub and let them do nothing for three years. Let ‘Muricans live in a fascist state. 

You do that, and he may switch parties.  Then we lose all chairs. 

Which is my point. Why pretend now? Let Fuckstick Joe be a white nationalist and the ‘Murican people live under a white nationalist fascist state. Do you think between now and the midterms having Joe on your side pays dividends? The House can be the House and those pieces of shit repubs in the senate don’t have or propose, never mind pass, solutions. Meanwhile, the executive branch abandons WV in every way possible. Let Joe see and feel how his constituents fare under that fascist regime. Let’s be honest about it.

mickeyrat

unsure of the background on this so I will put this here as an administration  thing.

https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-pandemic-lifestyle-health-business-mental-health-90a9d04a8c027a3abbd231d234ed0adf

Coronavirus pandemic Mental health Suicide prevention Federal Communications Commission

988 suicide phone hotline getting $282M to ease July launch

By RICARDO ALONSO-ZALDIVAR

Today

WASHINGTON (AP) — People in crisis and those trying to help them will have a new phone number — 988 — to reach the national suicide prevention network starting in July. On Monday, federal health officials announced more than $280 million to smooth the transition from the current 10-digit number to three digits.

Three-digit dialing to reach suicide hotline counselors has long been a goal for mental health advocates, lawmakers in Congress, the Federal Communications Commission and the telecommunications industry. The Biden administration says it wants to help deliver an on-schedule launch this summer. The new 988 number will also handle text and chat.

“We know that remembering a three-digit number beats a ten-digit number any day, particularly in times of crisis, and I encourage every state to rev up planning to implement 988 for the sake of saving lives," Health and Human Services Secretary Xavier Becerra said in a statement.

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Mental health experts are hoping that the three-digit number will deliver a breakthrough in assisting people in crisis who may otherwise try to harm themselves. They predict call center demand will skyrocket once the new system is in place and people know about it.

People who call, text or chat 988 will be able to reach trained counselors who belong to the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline network. Counselors at more than 180 local centers listen to people in crisis and provide support, connecting them with other services as may be needed. According to the Lifeline, the new dialing code will be available throughout the country starting July 16.

Of the $282 million announced Monday, $177 million will go to bolster and expand the existing crisis network's operations and telephone infrastructure, including centralized chat and text response, backup capacity and a sub-network for Spanish-speakers.

The rest of the money, $105 million, will go to build up staffing at local call centers.

Suicide had been the 10th leading cause of death in the United States, claiming more than 47,000 lives in 2019, but dropped to 11th in 2020, mainly due to the coronavirus pandemic, which killed at least 345,000 Americans and became the nation’s No. 3 killer.

Suicide attempts result in more than 300,000 people seen in hospital emergency departments for self-harm injuries. Rates of suicide rose steadily over much of the last 20 years, and it remains a leading cause of premature death for people from their teens well into their 50s.

Recently, the FCC voted unanimously to require phone companies to support texting to 988 as well. Commissioners said nowadays many people may be more inclined to text and the choice of voice or text should make no difference when someone in distress is trying to find help.

The national suicide prevention network currently relies on a 10-digit number, 800-273-TALK (8255), to route calls to crisis centers. The country’s largest cellphone companies, AT&T, T-Mobile and Verizon, already support calling 988, according to the FCC. The service may already be available in some parts of the country, although not every community has access yet.

The lifeline has received more than 20 million calls since its inception in 2005, with nearly 2.4 million last year, according to the network's website. Its current 10-digit number will remain available even after 988 is launched.

mickeyrat

https://youtu.be/FQxbTSggnDM