But but but Trump! I don't know if you knew this or not but he's been out of office for a while now. If you want to discuss Trump, he has his own thread. This is the Joe Biden thread in case you weren't aware.
Biden's low remains near Trump's high. Perspective is good. Sorry.
Also, use 538 average as opposed to cherry picking polls that suit your agenda.
That's hilarious that you actually believe that everything you say is right and everything I say is wrong. You want to talk about the poll I posted? Here are some interesting details.
"The Reuters/Ipsos poll is conducted online in English throughout the
United States. The latest poll gathered responses from a total of 1,005
adults, including 432 Democrats and 366 Republicans."
Democrats were a heavy majority of this poll.
I guess all of those illegal immigrants didn’t understand the questions then? MOE has to be -432?
Typical ATM response.... "I don't like the facts so I'm going to dispute them with false assertions"
The buyers remorse on those that voted for Joe Biden is becoming more apparent by the day. Go ahead and lie and make more shit up. It's just as bad as the Trump sycophants. Congrats!
I have no buyers remorse on Biden as I was given the choice between a lying, dangerous, creepy idiot and just a creepy idiot. My remorse is that that was the best we could do....that our primary process has been so corrupted that we end up with shit candidates. But if there was an election today between Trump and Biden I would easily vote for Biden again. That's a no brainer, unless you have no brain.
The Federal Reserve has pointed to a strong job market as part of its thinking for steadily raising interest rates to combat high inflation. The Labor Department reported that 187,000 people filed initial unemployment claims last week, 28,000 fewer than the week before and the lowest level since September 1969.
But but but Trump! I don't know if you knew this or not but he's been out of office for a while now. If you want to discuss Trump, he has his own thread. This is the Joe Biden thread in case you weren't aware.
Biden's low remains near Trump's high. Perspective is good. Sorry.
Also, use 538 average as opposed to cherry picking polls that suit your agenda.
That's hilarious that you actually believe that everything you say is right and everything I say is wrong. You want to talk about the poll I posted? Here are some interesting details.
"The Reuters/Ipsos poll is conducted online in English throughout the
United States. The latest poll gathered responses from a total of 1,005
adults, including 432 Democrats and 366 Republicans."
Democrats were a heavy majority of this poll.
I guess all of those illegal immigrants didn’t understand the questions then? MOE has to be -432?
Typical ATM response.... "I don't like the facts so I'm going to dispute them with false assertions"
The buyers remorse on those that voted for Joe Biden is becoming more apparent by the day. Go ahead and lie and make more shit up. It's just as bad as the Trump sycophants. Congrats!
That's a popular right wing talking point but it isn't true.
I see this shit in my FB feed all the time.
Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago 2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy 2013: London ON, Chicago; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE) 2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston 2020: Oakland, Oakland:2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana 2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville 2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
It's fun to mock Trump's poll numbers, but Biden's are bad regardless of comparison and they indicate that the Democratic Party is in trouble. How would a Biden/Trump election go tomorrow? Do the Dems have anyone that could beat him or Desantis?
Popularity polls are different from election polls. There was a poll out a few months ago that showed support for Biden is still there.
Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago 2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy 2013: London ON, Chicago; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE) 2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston 2020: Oakland, Oakland:2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana 2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville 2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
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It's fun to mock Trump's poll numbers, but Biden's are bad regardless of comparison and they indicate that the Democratic Party is in trouble. How would a Biden/Trump election go tomorrow? Do the Dems have anyone that could beat him or Desantis?
Popularity polls are different from election polls. There was a poll out a few months ago that showed support for Biden is still there.
DeSantis is more worrisome than Trump in my opinion. Trump is slowly losing his hold on that party.....but smarter versions of him are rising up to take his place.
It's fun to mock Trump's poll numbers, but Biden's are bad regardless of comparison and they indicate that the Democratic Party is in trouble. How would a Biden/Trump election go tomorrow? Do the Dems have anyone that could beat him or Desantis?
Popularity polls are different from election polls. There was a poll out a few months ago that showed support for Biden is still there.
DeSantis is more worrisome than Trump in my opinion. Trump is slowly losing his hold on that party.....but smarter versions of him are rising up to take his place.
Tucker Carlson also worries me.
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It's fun to mock Trump's poll numbers, but Biden's are bad regardless of comparison and they indicate that the Democratic Party is in trouble. How would a Biden/Trump election go tomorrow? Do the Dems have anyone that could beat him or Desantis?
Popularity polls are different from election polls. There was a poll out a few months ago that showed support for Biden is still there.
DeSantis is more worrisome than Trump in my opinion. Trump is slowly losing his hold on that party.....but smarter versions of him are rising up to take his place.
I think Trump would destroy DeSantis in a primary, unfortunately. And even if DeSantis beat him, Trump would throw a fit and try to turn republicans against him for the general election. The time is right for DeSantis to run. He's a pretty nationally-known governor at this point. But he's also been a Trump fanboy in the past, so he might not run so he's not in direct competition with Trump.
DeSantis as Trump's running mate might also be a possibility. Maybe even announce it before the primaries, which would be unprecedented, but it would justify DeSantis not being an opponent of Trump in the primary.
It's fun to mock Trump's poll numbers, but Biden's are bad regardless of comparison and they indicate that the Democratic Party is in trouble. How would a Biden/Trump election go tomorrow? Do the Dems have anyone that could beat him or Desantis?
Popularity polls are different from election polls. There was a poll out a few months ago that showed support for Biden is still there.
DeSantis is more worrisome than Trump in my opinion. Trump is slowly losing his hold on that party.....but smarter versions of him are rising up to take his place.
I think Trump would destroy DeSantis in a primary, unfortunately. And even if DeSantis beat him, Trump would throw a fit and try to turn republicans against him for the general election. The time is right for DeSantis to run. He's a pretty nationally-known governor at this point. But he's also been a Trump fanboy in the past, so he might not run so he's not in direct competition with Trump.
DeSantis as Trump's running mate might also be a possibility. Maybe even announce it before the primaries, which would be unprecedented, but it would justify DeSantis not being an opponent of Trump in the primary.
Can little squirts get elected?
I agree that if Trump lost a primary, he would sabotage the winner. Honestly that would be hilarious to watch.
The D bench feels thin right now. There's no heir apparent. I don't think it's Harris. Maybe Pete.
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The Juggler
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If Joe doesn't run, how late do you think he has to let people know? End of the year maybe?
It's fun to mock Trump's poll numbers, but Biden's are bad regardless of comparison and they indicate that the Democratic Party is in trouble. How would a Biden/Trump election go tomorrow? Do the Dems have anyone that could beat him or Desantis?
Popularity polls are different from election polls. There was a poll out a few months ago that showed support for Biden is still there.
DeSantis is more worrisome than Trump in my opinion. Trump is slowly losing his hold on that party.....but smarter versions of him are rising up to take his place.
I think Trump would destroy DeSantis in a primary, unfortunately. And even if DeSantis beat him, Trump would throw a fit and try to turn republicans against him for the general election. The time is right for DeSantis to run. He's a pretty nationally-known governor at this point. But he's also been a Trump fanboy in the past, so he might not run so he's not in direct competition with Trump.
DeSantis as Trump's running mate might also be a possibility. Maybe even announce it before the primaries, which would be unprecedented, but it would justify DeSantis not being an opponent of Trump in the primary.
Can little squirts get elected?
I agree that if Trump lost a primary, he would sabotage the winner. Honestly that would be hilarious to watch.
The D bench feels thin right now. There's no heir apparent. I don't think it's Harris. Maybe Pete.
Maybe Gina? There are probably some senators and governors were not thinking about. I for one cannot think of any off the top of my head. But the 2024 race is a lifetime away. After the midterms and when the repubs take the house and senate in 2023, things will begin to gel and we'll see the field rise to the top in preparation for the primary season. Its going to be ugly. 2024 is going to be a nightmare.
It's fun to mock Trump's poll numbers, but Biden's are bad regardless of comparison and they indicate that the Democratic Party is in trouble. How would a Biden/Trump election go tomorrow? Do the Dems have anyone that could beat him or Desantis?
Popularity polls are different from election polls. There was a poll out a few months ago that showed support for Biden is still there.
DeSantis is more worrisome than Trump in my opinion. Trump is slowly losing his hold on that party.....but smarter versions of him are rising up to take his place.
I think Trump would destroy DeSantis in a primary, unfortunately. And even if DeSantis beat him, Trump would throw a fit and try to turn republicans against him for the general election. The time is right for DeSantis to run. He's a pretty nationally-known governor at this point. But he's also been a Trump fanboy in the past, so he might not run so he's not in direct competition with Trump.
DeSantis as Trump's running mate might also be a possibility. Maybe even announce it before the primaries, which would be unprecedented, but it would justify DeSantis not being an opponent of Trump in the primary.
Exactly....tRump won't be able to resist attacking whoever is in front of him
Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago 2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy 2013: London ON, Chicago; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE) 2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston 2020: Oakland, Oakland:2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana 2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville 2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
It's fun to mock Trump's poll numbers, but Biden's are bad regardless of comparison and they indicate that the Democratic Party is in trouble. How would a Biden/Trump election go tomorrow? Do the Dems have anyone that could beat him or Desantis?
Popularity polls are different from election polls. There was a poll out a few months ago that showed support for Biden is still there.
Popularity polls may be different than election polls but they are related. A lot has happened in the past few months and none of it has improved Biden's polling. A few months ago Americans could still afford gas.
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The Juggler
Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,451
It's fun to mock Trump's poll numbers, but Biden's are bad regardless of comparison and they indicate that the Democratic Party is in trouble. How would a Biden/Trump election go tomorrow? Do the Dems have anyone that could beat him or Desantis?
Popularity polls are different from election polls. There was a poll out a few months ago that showed support for Biden is still there.
Popularity polls may be different than election polls but they are related. A lot has happened in the past few months and none of it has improved Biden's polling. A few months ago Americans could still afford gas.
What point do you think you are making? His numbers have remained largely in the same position (a few points higher than his predecessor) since the Fall. Last week you said they were going down as a result of his son's laptop. Now you are saying they are going down because gas prices, that were already high, have gone up further due to the war in Europe?
And if his numbers do tick up again, would you believe them? Or would you revert to calling them fake?
It's fun to mock Trump's poll numbers, but Biden's are bad regardless of comparison and they indicate that the Democratic Party is in trouble. How would a Biden/Trump election go tomorrow? Do the Dems have anyone that could beat him or Desantis?
Popularity polls are different from election polls. There was a poll out a few months ago that showed support for Biden is still there.
Popularity polls may be different than election polls but they are related. A lot has happened in the past few months and none of it has improved Biden's polling. A few months ago Americans could still afford gas.
What point do you think you are making? His numbers have remained largely in the same position (a few points higher than his predecessor) since the Fall. Last week you said they were going down as a result of his son's laptop. Now you are saying they are going down because gas prices, that were already high, have gone up further due to the war in Europe?
And if his numbers do tick up again, would you believe them? Or would you revert to calling them fake?
It's fun to mock Trump's poll numbers, but Biden's are bad regardless of comparison and they indicate that the Democratic Party is in trouble. How would a Biden/Trump election go tomorrow? Do the Dems have anyone that could beat him or Desantis?
Popularity polls are different from election polls. There was a poll out a few months ago that showed support for Biden is still there.
Popularity polls may be different than election polls but they are related. A lot has happened in the past few months and none of it has improved Biden's polling. A few months ago Americans could still afford gas.
What point do you think you are making? His numbers have remained largely in the same position (a few points higher than his predecessor) since the Fall. Last week you said they were going down as a result of his son's laptop. Now you are saying they are going down because gas prices, that were already high, have gone up further due to the war in Europe?
And if his numbers do tick up again, would you believe them? Or would you revert to calling them fake?
It's fun to mock Trump's poll numbers, but Biden's are bad regardless of comparison and they indicate that the Democratic Party is in trouble. How would a Biden/Trump election go tomorrow? Do the Dems have anyone that could beat him or Desantis?
Popularity polls are different from election polls. There was a poll out a few months ago that showed support for Biden is still there.
Popularity polls may be different than election polls but they are related. A lot has happened in the past few months and none of it has improved Biden's polling. A few months ago Americans could still afford gas.
What point do you think you are making? His numbers have remained largely in the same position (a few points higher than his predecessor) since the Fall. Last week you said they were going down as a result of his son's laptop. Now you are saying they are going down because gas prices, that were already high, have gone up further due to the war in Europe?
And if his numbers do tick up again, would you believe them? Or would you revert to calling them fake?
There are multiple reasons why his polling is going down. I never said it was only one thing. I said weeks ago, before the laptop was recognized as legit by the NYT, his polling numbers would go down due to high gas prices and inflation.
If his numbers tick up again, I'm sure you will rub them in my face. You can do that and I won't call them fake like you call the polls I reference as being insignificant.
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The Juggler
Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,451
It's fun to mock Trump's poll numbers, but Biden's are bad regardless of comparison and they indicate that the Democratic Party is in trouble. How would a Biden/Trump election go tomorrow? Do the Dems have anyone that could beat him or Desantis?
Popularity polls are different from election polls. There was a poll out a few months ago that showed support for Biden is still there.
Popularity polls may be different than election polls but they are related. A lot has happened in the past few months and none of it has improved Biden's polling. A few months ago Americans could still afford gas.
What point do you think you are making? His numbers have remained largely in the same position (a few points higher than his predecessor) since the Fall. Last week you said they were going down as a result of his son's laptop. Now you are saying they are going down because gas prices, that were already high, have gone up further due to the war in Europe?
And if his numbers do tick up again, would you believe them? Or would you revert to calling them fake?
There are multiple reasons why his polling is going down. I never said it was only one thing. I said weeks ago, before the laptop was recognized as legit by the NYT, his polling numbers would go down due to high gas prices and inflation.
If his numbers tick up again, I'm sure you will rub them in my face. You can do that and I won't call them fake like you call the polls I reference as being insignificant.
Why would I rub them in your face? I didn't call this Reuters poll fake, did I? I did call the nonsense you posted from Trump's donor's company meaningless...because they are.
Just go off of 538 to get an overall idea of how the approval numbers are looking as opposed to cherry picking a random one just because it suits your agenda. His numbers are not good right now. Everyone knows that. lol
It's fun to mock Trump's poll numbers, but Biden's are bad regardless of comparison and they indicate that the Democratic Party is in trouble. How would a Biden/Trump election go tomorrow? Do the Dems have anyone that could beat him or Desantis?
Popularity polls are different from election polls. There was a poll out a few months ago that showed support for Biden is still there.
Popularity polls may be different than election polls but they are related. A lot has happened in the past few months and none of it has improved Biden's polling. A few months ago Americans could still afford gas.
What point do you think you are making? His numbers have remained largely in the same position (a few points higher than his predecessor) since the Fall. Last week you said they were going down as a result of his son's laptop. Now you are saying they are going down because gas prices, that were already high, have gone up further due to the war in Europe?
And if his numbers do tick up again, would you believe them? Or would you revert to calling them fake?
Biden actually lead Trump in pretty much all head to head poling for the two years leading up the 2020 election. Trump supporters refused to believe those, just like JB appears to not believe this one, and thus refused to believe the actual result.
It's fun to mock Trump's poll numbers, but Biden's are bad regardless of comparison and they indicate that the Democratic Party is in trouble. How would a Biden/Trump election go tomorrow? Do the Dems have anyone that could beat him or Desantis?
Popularity polls are different from election polls. There was a poll out a few months ago that showed support for Biden is still there.
Popularity polls may be different than election polls but they are related. A lot has happened in the past few months and none of it has improved Biden's polling. A few months ago Americans could still afford gas.
Like any POTUS’s poll numbers would improve with what is happening in the nation and the world right now.
100,000+ less jobless claims last month. Seems plenty of Americans can afford gas.
It's fun to mock Trump's poll numbers, but Biden's are bad regardless of comparison and they indicate that the Democratic Party is in trouble. How would a Biden/Trump election go tomorrow? Do the Dems have anyone that could beat him or Desantis?
Popularity polls are different from election polls. There was a poll out a few months ago that showed support for Biden is still there.
Popularity polls may be different than election polls but they are related. A lot has happened in the past few months and none of it has improved Biden's polling. A few months ago Americans could still afford gas.
What point do you think you are making? His numbers have remained largely in the same position (a few points higher than his predecessor) since the Fall. Last week you said they were going down as a result of his son's laptop. Now you are saying they are going down because gas prices, that were already high, have gone up further due to the war in Europe?
And if his numbers do tick up again, would you believe them? Or would you revert to calling them fake?
There are multiple reasons why his polling is going down. I never said it was only one thing. I said weeks ago, before the laptop was recognized as legit by the NYT, his polling numbers would go down due to high gas prices and inflation.
If his numbers tick up again, I'm sure you will rub them in my face. You can do that and I won't call them fake like you call the polls I reference as being insignificant.
Why would I rub them in your face? I didn't call this Reuters poll fake, did I? I did call the nonsense you posted from Trump's donor's company meaningless...because they are.
Just go off of 538 to get an overall idea of how the approval numbers are looking as opposed to cherry picking a random one just because it suits your agenda. His numbers are not good right now. Everyone knows that. lol
It's fun to mock Trump's poll numbers, but Biden's are bad regardless of comparison and they indicate that the Democratic Party is in trouble. How would a Biden/Trump election go tomorrow? Do the Dems have anyone that could beat him or Desantis?
Popularity polls are different from election polls. There was a poll out a few months ago that showed support for Biden is still there.
Popularity polls may be different than election polls but they are related. A lot has happened in the past few months and none of it has improved Biden's polling. A few months ago Americans could still afford gas.
What point do you think you are making? His numbers have remained largely in the same position (a few points higher than his predecessor) since the Fall. Last week you said they were going down as a result of his son's laptop. Now you are saying they are going down because gas prices, that were already high, have gone up further due to the war in Europe?
And if his numbers do tick up again, would you believe them? Or would you revert to calling them fake?
Biden actually lead Trump in pretty much all head to head poling for the two years leading up the 2020 election. Trump supporters refused to believe those, just like JB appears to not believe this one, and thus refused to believe the actual result.
Where did I say I don't believe it? Do you understand it is to have a reasonable conversation here when you and others say things that aren't true and put words into my mouth?
I didn't say I don't believe it. Those are hypothetical. We don't know if Trump is even running in 2024 let alone that Biden will be competent in 2024. If you want to look at that kind of polling, here are multiple polls showing a different outcome than that one.
It's fun to mock Trump's poll numbers, but Biden's are bad regardless of comparison and they indicate that the Democratic Party is in trouble. How would a Biden/Trump election go tomorrow? Do the Dems have anyone that could beat him or Desantis?
Popularity polls are different from election polls. There was a poll out a few months ago that showed support for Biden is still there.
Popularity polls may be different than election polls but they are related. A lot has happened in the past few months and none of it has improved Biden's polling. A few months ago Americans could still afford gas.
Like any POTUS’s poll numbers would improve with what is happening in the nation and the world right now.
100,000+ less jobless claims last month. Seems plenty of Americans can afford gas.
Less jobless claims does not mean that people can afford gas, come on man.
It's fun to mock Trump's poll numbers, but Biden's are bad regardless of comparison and they indicate that the Democratic Party is in trouble. How would a Biden/Trump election go tomorrow? Do the Dems have anyone that could beat him or Desantis?
Popularity polls are different from election polls. There was a poll out a few months ago that showed support for Biden is still there.
Popularity polls may be different than election polls but they are related. A lot has happened in the past few months and none of it has improved Biden's polling. A few months ago Americans could still afford gas.
What point do you think you are making? His numbers have remained largely in the same position (a few points higher than his predecessor) since the Fall. Last week you said they were going down as a result of his son's laptop. Now you are saying they are going down because gas prices, that were already high, have gone up further due to the war in Europe?
And if his numbers do tick up again, would you believe them? Or would you revert to calling them fake?
Biden actually lead Trump in pretty much all head to head poling for the two years leading up the 2020 election. Trump supporters refused to believe those, just like JB appears to not believe this one, and thus refused to believe the actual result.
Where did I say I don't believe it? Do you understand it is to have a reasonable conversation here when you and others say things that aren't true and put words into my mouth?
I didn't say I don't believe it. Those are hypothetical. We don't know if Trump is even running in 2024 let alone that Biden will be competent in 2024. If you want to look at that kind of polling, here are multiple polls showing a different outcome than that one.
It's fun to mock Trump's poll numbers, but Biden's are bad regardless of comparison and they indicate that the Democratic Party is in trouble. How would a Biden/Trump election go tomorrow? Do the Dems have anyone that could beat him or Desantis?
Popularity polls are different from election polls. There was a poll out a few months ago that showed support for Biden is still there.
Popularity polls may be different than election polls but they are related. A lot has happened in the past few months and none of it has improved Biden's polling. A few months ago Americans could still afford gas.
Like any POTUS’s poll numbers would improve with what is happening in the nation and the world right now.
100,000+ less jobless claims last month. Seems plenty of Americans can afford gas.
Less jobless claims does not mean that people can afford gas, come on man.
If people can't afford gas, how are they getting to work?
It's fun to mock Trump's poll numbers, but Biden's are bad regardless of comparison and they indicate that the Democratic Party is in trouble. How would a Biden/Trump election go tomorrow? Do the Dems have anyone that could beat him or Desantis?
Popularity polls are different from election polls. There was a poll out a few months ago that showed support for Biden is still there.
Popularity polls may be different than election polls but they are related. A lot has happened in the past few months and none of it has improved Biden's polling. A few months ago Americans could still afford gas.
What point do you think you are making? His numbers have remained largely in the same position (a few points higher than his predecessor) since the Fall. Last week you said they were going down as a result of his son's laptop. Now you are saying they are going down because gas prices, that were already high, have gone up further due to the war in Europe?
And if his numbers do tick up again, would you believe them? Or would you revert to calling them fake?
Biden actually lead Trump in pretty much all head to head poling for the two years leading up the 2020 election. Trump supporters refused to believe those, just like JB appears to not believe this one, and thus refused to believe the actual result.
Where did I say I don't believe it? Do you understand it is to have a reasonable conversation here when you and others say things that aren't true and put words into my mouth?
I didn't say I don't believe it. Those are hypothetical. We don't know if Trump is even running in 2024 let alone that Biden will be competent in 2024. If you want to look at that kind of polling, here are multiple polls showing a different outcome than that one.
It's fun to mock Trump's poll numbers, but Biden's are bad regardless of comparison and they indicate that the Democratic Party is in trouble. How would a Biden/Trump election go tomorrow? Do the Dems have anyone that could beat him or Desantis?
Popularity polls are different from election polls. There was a poll out a few months ago that showed support for Biden is still there.
Popularity polls may be different than election polls but they are related. A lot has happened in the past few months and none of it has improved Biden's polling. A few months ago Americans could still afford gas.
What point do you think you are making? His numbers have remained largely in the same position (a few points higher than his predecessor) since the Fall. Last week you said they were going down as a result of his son's laptop. Now you are saying they are going down because gas prices, that were already high, have gone up further due to the war in Europe?
And if his numbers do tick up again, would you believe them? Or would you revert to calling them fake?
Biden actually lead Trump in pretty much all head to head poling for the two years leading up the 2020 election. Trump supporters refused to believe those, just like JB appears to not believe this one, and thus refused to believe the actual result.
Where did I say I don't believe it? Do you understand it is to have a reasonable conversation here when you and others say things that aren't true and put words into my mouth?
I didn't say I don't believe it. Those are hypothetical. We don't know if Trump is even running in 2024 let alone that Biden will be competent in 2024. If you want to look at that kind of polling, here are multiple polls showing a different outcome than that one.
trump was never competent. biden is competent just fine.
Trump was competent enough to win an election that no one said he could win.
All by himself? No putin on the ritz assist? Are you kidding me? Where have you been for the past 5-7 years? And he still lost the popular vote. Competence and POOTWH don't belong in the same sentence.
Are you really this vested in POOTWH? Are you really going to vote for him again?
It's fun to mock Trump's poll numbers, but Biden's are bad regardless of comparison and they indicate that the Democratic Party is in trouble. How would a Biden/Trump election go tomorrow? Do the Dems have anyone that could beat him or Desantis?
Popularity polls are different from election polls. There was a poll out a few months ago that showed support for Biden is still there.
Popularity polls may be different than election polls but they are related. A lot has happened in the past few months and none of it has improved Biden's polling. A few months ago Americans could still afford gas.
What point do you think you are making? His numbers have remained largely in the same position (a few points higher than his predecessor) since the Fall. Last week you said they were going down as a result of his son's laptop. Now you are saying they are going down because gas prices, that were already high, have gone up further due to the war in Europe?
And if his numbers do tick up again, would you believe them? Or would you revert to calling them fake?
Biden actually lead Trump in pretty much all head to head poling for the two years leading up the 2020 election. Trump supporters refused to believe those, just like JB appears to not believe this one, and thus refused to believe the actual result.
Where did I say I don't believe it? Do you understand it is to have a reasonable conversation here when you and others say things that aren't true and put words into my mouth?
I didn't say I don't believe it. Those are hypothetical. We don't know if Trump is even running in 2024 let alone that Biden will be competent in 2024. If you want to look at that kind of polling, here are multiple polls showing a different outcome than that one.
trump was never competent. biden is competent just fine.
Trump was competent enough to win an election that no one said he could win.
All by himself? No putin on the ritz assist? Are you kidding me? Where have you been for the past 5-7 years? And he still lost the popular vote. Competence and POOTWH don't belong in the same sentence.
Are you really this vested in POOTWH? Are you really going to vote for him again?
Are you really vested in Biden? Would he have been your first choice? I don't know many people that can say that yet he still won the nomination and then the election.
If Trump is all we have to vote for, then yes, I will vote for him. All I hear is about how many crimes he's broke yet criminal charges aren't appearing. That means that either the people that are trying to go after him are incompetent or he didn't break laws. Either way, if the Democrats are capable of destroying Trump, please do so. Trump is not my first choice and I'd love to see that drama behind us so we can get on with the next person.
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It's fun to mock Trump's poll numbers, but Biden's are bad regardless of comparison and they indicate that the Democratic Party is in trouble. How would a Biden/Trump election go tomorrow? Do the Dems have anyone that could beat him or Desantis?
Popularity polls are different from election polls. There was a poll out a few months ago that showed support for Biden is still there.
Popularity polls may be different than election polls but they are related. A lot has happened in the past few months and none of it has improved Biden's polling. A few months ago Americans could still afford gas.
What point do you think you are making? His numbers have remained largely in the same position (a few points higher than his predecessor) since the Fall. Last week you said they were going down as a result of his son's laptop. Now you are saying they are going down because gas prices, that were already high, have gone up further due to the war in Europe?
And if his numbers do tick up again, would you believe them? Or would you revert to calling them fake?
There are multiple reasons why his polling is going down. I never said it was only one thing. I said weeks ago, before the laptop was recognized as legit by the NYT, his polling numbers would go down due to high gas prices and inflation.
If his numbers tick up again, I'm sure you will rub them in my face. You can do that and I won't call them fake like you call the polls I reference as being insignificant.
Why would I rub them in your face? I didn't call this Reuters poll fake, did I? I did call the nonsense you posted from Trump's donor's company meaningless...because they are.
Just go off of 538 to get an overall idea of how the approval numbers are looking as opposed to cherry picking a random one just because it suits your agenda. His numbers are not good right now. Everyone knows that. lol
It's fun to mock Trump's poll numbers, but Biden's are bad regardless of comparison and they indicate that the Democratic Party is in trouble. How would a Biden/Trump election go tomorrow? Do the Dems have anyone that could beat him or Desantis?
Popularity polls are different from election polls. There was a poll out a few months ago that showed support for Biden is still there.
Popularity polls may be different than election polls but they are related. A lot has happened in the past few months and none of it has improved Biden's polling. A few months ago Americans could still afford gas.
What point do you think you are making? His numbers have remained largely in the same position (a few points higher than his predecessor) since the Fall. Last week you said they were going down as a result of his son's laptop. Now you are saying they are going down because gas prices, that were already high, have gone up further due to the war in Europe?
And if his numbers do tick up again, would you believe them? Or would you revert to calling them fake?
There are multiple reasons why his polling is going down. I never said it was only one thing. I said weeks ago, before the laptop was recognized as legit by the NYT, his polling numbers would go down due to high gas prices and inflation.
If his numbers tick up again, I'm sure you will rub them in my face. You can do that and I won't call them fake like you call the polls I reference as being insignificant.
Why would I rub them in your face? I didn't call this Reuters poll fake, did I? I did call the nonsense you posted from Trump's donor's company meaningless...because they are.
Just go off of 538 to get an overall idea of how the approval numbers are looking as opposed to cherry picking a random one just because it suits your agenda. His numbers are not good right now. Everyone knows that. lol
You didn't call it fake but I would lean more towards insignificant.
Honestly, I hope his numbers do go up.
No, I said it is better to look at the average instead of cherry picking a poll or two and then coming on here and gloating. It's not a good look.
Ok, well you just called me out for that but you ignored that Germ Blansten did it. Germ gave us 1 poll that showed Biden would win the election. I linked to multiple polls that showed Trump would win.
It's fun to mock Trump's poll numbers, but Biden's are bad regardless of comparison and they indicate that the Democratic Party is in trouble. How would a Biden/Trump election go tomorrow? Do the Dems have anyone that could beat him or Desantis?
Popularity polls are different from election polls. There was a poll out a few months ago that showed support for Biden is still there.
Popularity polls may be different than election polls but they are related. A lot has happened in the past few months and none of it has improved Biden's polling. A few months ago Americans could still afford gas.
What point do you think you are making? His numbers have remained largely in the same position (a few points higher than his predecessor) since the Fall. Last week you said they were going down as a result of his son's laptop. Now you are saying they are going down because gas prices, that were already high, have gone up further due to the war in Europe?
And if his numbers do tick up again, would you believe them? Or would you revert to calling them fake?
Biden actually lead Trump in pretty much all head to head poling for the two years leading up the 2020 election. Trump supporters refused to believe those, just like JB appears to not believe this one, and thus refused to believe the actual result.
Where did I say I don't believe it? Do you understand it is to have a reasonable conversation here when you and others say things that aren't true and put words into my mouth?
I didn't say I don't believe it. Those are hypothetical. We don't know if Trump is even running in 2024 let alone that Biden will be competent in 2024. If you want to look at that kind of polling, here are multiple polls showing a different outcome than that one.
trump was never competent. biden is competent just fine.
Trump was competent enough to win an election that no one said he could win.
All by himself? No putin on the ritz assist? Are you kidding me? Where have you been for the past 5-7 years? And he still lost the popular vote. Competence and POOTWH don't belong in the same sentence.
Are you really this vested in POOTWH? Are you really going to vote for him again?
Are you really vested in Biden? Would he have been your first choice? I don't know many people that can say that yet he still won the nomination and then the election.
If Trump is all we have to vote for, then yes, I will vote for him. All I hear is about how many crimes he's broke yet criminal charges aren't appearing. That means that either the people that are trying to go after him are incompetent or he didn't break laws. Either way, if the Democrats are capable of destroying Trump, please do so. Trump is not my first choice and I'd love to see that drama behind us so we can get on with the next person.
I thought Biden was the salve for the wound and voted for him and will support him if he runs for re-election, which I don’t think he’ll do. After that, I’ll support whoever the Dems nominate as there is no way I can vote for the white supremacy party, regardless of their nominee.
There are still three active investigations ongoing involving POOTWH, as well as a congressional investigation that may result in criminal referrals. All of which he isn’t cooperating with as is his right. Patience is a virtue.
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The Federal Reserve has pointed to a strong job market as part of its thinking for steadily raising interest rates to combat high inflation. The Labor Department reported that 187,000 people filed initial unemployment claims last week, 28,000 fewer than the week before and the lowest level since September 1969.
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2013: London ON, Chicago; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
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2013: London ON, Chicago; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
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I think Trump would destroy DeSantis in a primary, unfortunately. And even if DeSantis beat him, Trump would throw a fit and try to turn republicans against him for the general election. The time is right for DeSantis to run. He's a pretty nationally-known governor at this point. But he's also been a Trump fanboy in the past, so he might not run so he's not in direct competition with Trump.
DeSantis as Trump's running mate might also be a possibility. Maybe even announce it before the primaries, which would be unprecedented, but it would justify DeSantis not being an opponent of Trump in the primary.
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I agree that if Trump lost a primary, he would sabotage the winner. Honestly that would be hilarious to watch.
The D bench feels thin right now. There's no heir apparent. I don't think it's Harris. Maybe Pete.
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2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Chicago; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
And if his numbers do tick up again, would you believe them? Or would you revert to calling them fake?
here's the fucking point I'm making
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Chicago; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
Just go off of 538 to get an overall idea of how the approval numbers are looking as opposed to cherry picking a random one just because it suits your agenda. His numbers are not good right now. Everyone knows that. lol
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/biden-approval-rating/?ex_cid=rrpromo
Biden actually lead Trump in pretty much all head to head poling for the two years leading up the 2020 election. Trump supporters refused to believe those, just like JB appears to not believe this one, and thus refused to believe the actual result.
100,000+ less jobless claims last month. Seems plenty of Americans can afford gas.
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Are you really this vested in POOTWH? Are you really going to vote for him again?
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There are still three active investigations ongoing involving POOTWH, as well as a congressional investigation that may result in criminal referrals. All of which he isn’t cooperating with as is his right. Patience is a virtue.
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