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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 Posts: 23,160
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 37,995

     
    Supreme Court rules against Navajo Nation in Colorado River water rights case
    By Jessica Gresko
    Today

    WASHINGTON (AP) — The Supreme Court ruled against the Navajo Nation on Thursday in a dispute involving water from the drought-stricken Colorado River.

    States that draw water from the river — Arizona, Nevada and Colorado — and water districts in California that are also involved in the case had urged the court to decide for them, which the justices did in a 5-4 ruling. Colorado had argued that siding with the Navajo Nation would undermine existing agreements and disrupt the management of the river.

    The Biden administration had said that if the court were to come down in favor of the Navajo Nation, the federal government could face lawsuits from many other tribes.

    Lawyers for the Navajo Nation had characterized the tribe’s request as modest, saying they simply were seeking an assessment of the tribe's water needs and a plan to meet them.

    The facts of the case go back to treaties that the tribe and the federal government signed in 1849 and 1868. The second treaty established the reservation as the tribe’s “permanent home” — a promise the Navajo Nation says includes a sufficient supply of water. In 2003 the tribe sued the federal government, arguing it had failed to consider or protect the Navajo Nation’s water rights to the lower portion of the Colorado River.

    Writing for a majority made up of conservative justices, Justice Brett Kavanaugh explained that “the Navajos contend that the treaty requires the United States to take affirmative steps to secure water for the Navajos — for example, by assessing the Tribe's water needs, developing a plan to secure the needed water, and potentially building pipelines, pumps, wells, or other water infrastructure.”

    But, Kavanaugh said, "In light of the treaty's text and history, we conclude that the treaty does not require the United States to take those affirmative steps.”

    Kavanaugh acknowledged that water issues are difficult ones.

    “Allocating water in the arid regions of the American West is often a zero-sum situation,” he wrote. It is important, he said, for courts to leave “to Congress and the President the responsibility to enact appropriations laws and to otherwise update federal law as they see fit in light of the competing contemporary needs for water.”

    A federal trial court initially dismissed the lawsuit, but an appeals court allowed it to go forward. The Supreme Court's decision reverses that ruling from the appeals court.

    In a dissent, Justice Neil Gorsuch wrote that he would have allowed the case to go forward and he characterized the Navajo's position as a “simple ask.”

    “Where do the Navajo go from here?” he wrote. “To date, their efforts to find out what water rights the United States holds for them have produced an experience familiar to any American who has spent time at the Department of Motor Vehicles. The Navajo have waited patiently for someone, anyone, to help them, only to be told (repeatedly) that they have been standing in the wrong line and must try another.”

    Gorsuch said one “silver lining” of the case may be that his colleagues in the majority recognized that the tribe may still be able to “assert the interests they claim in water rights litigation, including by seeking to intervene in cases that affect their claimed interests.”

    Gorsuch, a conservative and Colorado native who has emerged as a champion of Native rights since joining the court in 2017, was joined by the court's three liberals: Justices Sonia Sotomayor, Elena Kagan and Ketanji Brown Jackson.

    During arguments in the case in March, Justice Samuel Alito pointed out that the Navajo Nation’s original reservation was hundreds of miles away from the section of the Colorado River it now seeks water from.

    Today, the Colorado River flows along what is now the northwestern border of the tribe’s reservation, which extends into New Mexico, Utah and Arizona. Two of the river’s tributaries, the San Juan River and the Little Colorado River, also pass alongside and through the reservation. Still, one-third of the some 175,000 people who live on the reservation, the largest in the country, do not have running water in their homes.

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    The government argued that it has helped the tribe secure water from the Colorado River’s tributaries and provided money for infrastructure, including pipelines, pumping plants and water treatment facilities. But it said no law or treaty required the government to assess and address the tribe’s general water needs. The states involved in the case argued that the Navajo Nation was attempting to make an end run around a Supreme Court decree that divvied up water in the Colorado River’s Lower Basin.

    In a statement, Navajo Nation President Buu Nygren called the ruling “disappointing" and said the tribe's lawyers “continue to analyze the opinion and determine what it means for this particular lawsuit.”

    “My job as the President of the Navajo Nation is to represent and protect the Navajo people, our land, and our future,” Nygren said. “The only way to do that is with secure, quantified water rights to the Lower Basin of the Colorado River.”

    Rita McGuire, a lawyer who represented states opposing the tribe’s claims, said the court “ruled exactly right” and that “we’re very pleased.”

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    Associated Press reporter Michael Phillis in St. Louis contributed to this report.


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    Supreme Court rejects a lawsuit from states demanding that Biden administration boost deportations
    By Mark Sherman
    Yesterday

    WASHINGTON (AP) — The Supreme Court on Friday rejected a Republican-led challenge to a Biden administration policy that prioritizes the deportation of immigrants who are deemed to pose the greatest risk to public safety or were picked up at the border.

    The justices voted 8-1 to allow the long-blocked policy to take effect, recognizing there is not enough money or manpower to deport all 11 million or so people who are in the United States illegally.

    The case was one of two immigration cases decided Friday, the other upholding a section of federal law used to prosecute people who encourage illegal immigration..

    In the deportation case, Louisiana and Texas had argued that federal immigration law requires authorities to detain and expel those in the U.S. illegally even if they pose little or no risk.

    But the court held that the states lacked the legal standing, or right to sue, in the first place.

    Justice Brett Kavanaugh wrote in his opinion for the court that the executive branch has no choice but to prioritize enforcement efforts.

    “That is because the Executive Branch invariably lacks the resources to arrest and prosecute every violator of every law and must constantly react and adjust to the ever-shifting public-safety and public welfare needs of the American people,” Kavanaugh wrote.

    At the center of the case is a September 2021 directive from the Department of Homeland Security that paused deportations unless individuals had committed acts of terrorism, espionage or “egregious threats to public safety.” The guidance, issued after Joe Biden became president, updated a Trump-era policy to remove people who were in the country illegally, regardless of criminal history or community ties.

    Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas applauded Friday's decision, saying it would allow immigration officers “to focus limited resources and enforcement actions on those who pose a threat to our national security, public safety and border security.”

    The case displayed a frequently used litigation strategy by Republican attorneys general and other officials that has succeeded in slowing Biden administration initiatives by going to Republican-friendly courts.

    Texas and Louisiana claimed in their lawsuit that they would face added costs of having to detain people the federal government might allow to remain free inside the United States, despite their criminal records.

    Last year, a federal judge in Texas ordered a nationwide halt to the guidance and a federal appellate panel in New Orleans declined to step in.

    A federal appeals court in Cincinnati had earlier overturned a district judge’s order that put the policy on hold in a lawsuit filed by Arizona, Ohio and Montana.

    But 11 months ago, when the administration asked the Supreme Court to intervene, the justices voted 5-4 to keep the policy on hold. At the same time, the court agreed to hear the case, which was argued in December.

    In Friday's decision, Kavanaugh's opinion spoke for just five justices, including Chief Justice John Roberts and the three liberals. Justices Clarence Thomas, Neil Gorsuch and Amy Coney Barrett agreed with the outcome for other reasons.

    Justice Samuel Alito filed a solo dissent, writing that the decision improperly favors the president over Congress. “And it renders states already laboring under the effects of massive illegal immigration even more helpless,” Alito wrote.

    In a separate immigration-related decision also issued Friday, the court upheld a section of federal law that is used against people who encourage illegal immigration.

    The justices by a 7-2 vote reinstated the criminal conviction of a California man, Helaman Hansen, who offered adult adoptions he falsely claimed would lead to U.S. citizenship. At least 471 people paid Hansen between $550 and $10,000 each, or more than $1.8 million in all, the government said.

    He was prosecuted under a section of federal immigration law that says a person who “encourages or induces” a non-citizen to come to or remain in the United States illegally can be punished by up to five years in prison. That’s increased to 10 years if the person doing the encouraging is doing so for personal financial gain. The justices rejected an appeals court ruling that the law is too broad and violates the Constitution.


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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 37,995
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 Posts: 23,160
    mickeyrat said:
    until alito is out of his job, nothing is "devastating" for him. there is literally nobody to hold him, or any of the justices accountable, for anything.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,457
    mickeyrat said:
    until alito is out of his job, nothing is "devastating" for him. there is literally nobody to hold him, or any of the justices accountable, for anything.
    True, but it is a terrible look for the Journal's editorial page.  They tried to front run a story from another publication.  That's beneath an organization with the quality of its newsroom.  
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,516
    mrussel1 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    until alito is out of his job, nothing is "devastating" for him. there is literally nobody to hold him, or any of the justices accountable, for anything.
    True, but it is a terrible look for the Journal's editorial page.  They tried to front run a story from another publication.  That's beneath an organization with the quality of its newsroom.  
    The WSJ has gone to shit since Murdick bought it. It’s just another faux news outlet at this point.
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,457
    mrussel1 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    until alito is out of his job, nothing is "devastating" for him. there is literally nobody to hold him, or any of the justices accountable, for anything.
    True, but it is a terrible look for the Journal's editorial page.  They tried to front run a story from another publication.  That's beneath an organization with the quality of its newsroom.  
    The WSJ has gone to shit since Murdick bought it. It’s just another faux news outlet at this point.
    I moderately disagree.  The editorial page is who they've been.  The news division is good. 
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,516
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    until alito is out of his job, nothing is "devastating" for him. there is literally nobody to hold him, or any of the justices accountable, for anything.
    True, but it is a terrible look for the Journal's editorial page.  They tried to front run a story from another publication.  That's beneath an organization with the quality of its newsroom.  
    The WSJ has gone to shit since Murdick bought it. It’s just another faux news outlet at this point.
    I moderately disagree.  The editorial page is who they've been.  The news division is good. 
    It was much better in the 70s and 80s. Much more balanced on both.
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,457
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    until alito is out of his job, nothing is "devastating" for him. there is literally nobody to hold him, or any of the justices accountable, for anything.
    True, but it is a terrible look for the Journal's editorial page.  They tried to front run a story from another publication.  That's beneath an organization with the quality of its newsroom.  
    The WSJ has gone to shit since Murdick bought it. It’s just another faux news outlet at this point.
    I moderately disagree.  The editorial page is who they've been.  The news division is good. 
    It was much better in the 70s and 80s. Much more balanced on both.
    I can't speak to that... I was 15 when the 80s ended and wasn't reading much of the Journal editorial. 
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 37,995
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 37,995
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  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,182
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    until alito is out of his job, nothing is "devastating" for him. there is literally nobody to hold him, or any of the justices accountable, for anything.
    True, but it is a terrible look for the Journal's editorial page.  They tried to front run a story from another publication.  That's beneath an organization with the quality of its newsroom.  
    The WSJ has gone to shit since Murdick bought it. It’s just another faux news outlet at this point.
    I moderately disagree.  The editorial page is who they've been.  The news division is good. 
    It was much better in the 70s and 80s. Much more balanced on both.
    His kids run it now, don't they? They aren't conservative at all either.
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,516
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    until alito is out of his job, nothing is "devastating" for him. there is literally nobody to hold him, or any of the justices accountable, for anything.
    True, but it is a terrible look for the Journal's editorial page.  They tried to front run a story from another publication.  That's beneath an organization with the quality of its newsroom.  
    The WSJ has gone to shit since Murdick bought it. It’s just another faux news outlet at this point.
    I moderately disagree.  The editorial page is who they've been.  The news division is good. 
    It was much better in the 70s and 80s. Much more balanced on both.
    His kids run it now, don't they? They aren't conservative at all either.
    I’m not sure if the kids are running the WSJ and I also wouldn’t go as far as to say “they aren’t conservative at all.”
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 Posts: 23,160
    scotus got another one right. who would have thunk it? roberts wrote the majority opinion with the ususal 3, thomas, gorsuch and alito dissenting...

    Supreme Court Rejects Theory That Would Have Transformed American Elections

    The 6-3 majority dismissed the “independent state legislature” theory, which would have given state lawmakers nearly unchecked power over federal elections.

    The Supreme Court on Tuesday rejected a legal theory that would have radically reshaped how federal elections are conducted by giving state legislatures largely unchecked power to set all sorts of rules for federal elections and to draw congressional maps warped by partisan gerrymandering.

    The vote was 6 to 3, with Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr. writing the majority opinion. The Constitution, he said, “does not exempt state legislatures from the ordinary constraints imposed by state law.”

    Justices Clarence Thomas, Samuel A. Alito Jr. and Neil M. Gorsuch dissented.

    The case concerned the “independent state legislature” theory. The doctrine is based on a reading of the Constitution’s Elections Clause, which says, “The times, places and manner of holding elections for senators and representatives, shall be prescribed in each state by the legislature thereof.”

    Proponents of the strongest form of the theory say this means that no other organs of state government — not courts, not governors, not election administrators, not independent commissions — can alter a legislature’s actions on federal elections.


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  • curmudgeonesscurmudgeoness Posts: 3,987
    scotus got another one right. who would have thunk it? roberts wrote the majority opinion with the ususal 3, thomas, gorsuch and alito dissenting...

    Supreme Court Rejects Theory That Would Have Transformed American Elections

    The 6-3 majority dismissed the “independent state legislature” theory, which would have given state lawmakers nearly unchecked power over federal elections.

    The Supreme Court on Tuesday rejected a legal theory that would have radically reshaped how federal elections are conducted by giving state legislatures largely unchecked power to set all sorts of rules for federal elections and to draw congressional maps warped by partisan gerrymandering.

    The vote was 6 to 3, with Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr. writing the majority opinion. The Constitution, he said, “does not exempt state legislatures from the ordinary constraints imposed by state law.”

    Justices Clarence Thomas, Samuel A. Alito Jr. and Neil M. Gorsuch dissented.

    The case concerned the “independent state legislature” theory. The doctrine is based on a reading of the Constitution’s Elections Clause, which says, “The times, places and manner of holding elections for senators and representatives, shall be prescribed in each state by the legislature thereof.”

    Proponents of the strongest form of the theory say this means that no other organs of state government — not courts, not governors, not election administrators, not independent commissions — can alter a legislature’s actions on federal elections.


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    https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/27/us/politics/supreme-court-state-legislature-elections.html?unlocked_article_code=ur_nIt2-z-NXjXvIlYd7MdBd1M4v8yBRGe1R56sT0tU7kmMAG0sCWykwYal0UxyszmoqJ5yOPipxwdJq48peENzrQnKHNoECTUoDHi-DuPa1KmrICL2xHwuf_VnR17Tbf6hHj5CTr0-nkNU6x00FZY667SxqAkk1kTbYZHStuIS7BNx-HEpiuyVOyZ9tfEm0mCbaTAoxDFEni0dkGxaDXknsqfLi1hBMEwY3s-hg6G-QpGQQKjnM47z5P2XTActGqSEN4_ro1z36Bt-6km-BL6Lr9S4xBmlC5lgJoXPbtbhuw-wyXTPZaBxJ9-OMzSyWT9miFDbiGlBYrevcDxCDXea-IRd5OuEdhyNZOzZGOizMRqId_Pqx&smid=url-share


    This was a BFD. And Neil Katyal and Judge Luttig working together? Very BFD.
    All those who seek to destroy the liberties of a democratic nation ought to know that war is the surest and shortest means to accomplish it.
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,260
    Yeah this was a total shot down on another GOP effort’s to control elections throughout the country! 🖕🏽🖕🏽🖕🏽GOP and Alito Thomas and Gorsuch 
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 37,995
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 19,637
    I'm reading that Thomas is basically attacking Jackson's dissent because he didn't experience racism where he grew up.
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 19,637
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,896
    "Five of the nine justices had never cast a vote on the issue before this term, although some — notably Thomas and Sotomayor — have said affirmative action played a dramatic role in their lives. Those two justices came away from the experience with vividly different views.

    Sotomayor, the court’s first Latina, has been the boldest defender of what she prefers to call “race-sensitive” admission policies and has referred to herself as the “perfect affirmative action child.” Without a boost, she has said, she likely never would have been transported from Bronx housing projects to the Ivy League. But she excelled as a top student at Princeton and Yale Law School once she got there.Thomas, the second Black justice, countered that he felt affirmative action made his diploma from Yale Law practically worthless; he has been a fierce opponent of racial preferences in his three decades on the court."

    .... He says from the bench of the Supreme Court of the United States of America. SMH.



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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,896
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
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