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  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, ColoradoPosts: 9,782
    https://twitter.com/esqueer_/status/1555163269387763718?s=21&t=nPBdGcfLPkV3oEv-8erdrA

    “It should probably be a bigger deal that Viktor Orban is speaking at CPAC Dallas today. His own minister resigned over his Nazi style rhetoric decrying "race mixing." The overt white supremacy is not a bug, it's a feature.“
    The Guns Over People party is a white supremacist organization.
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 31,454
    https://twitter.com/esqueer_/status/1555163269387763718?s=21&t=nPBdGcfLPkV3oEv-8erdrA

    “It should probably be a bigger deal that Viktor Orban is speaking at CPAC Dallas today. His own minister resigned over his Nazi style rhetoric decrying "race mixing." The overt white supremacy is not a bug, it's a feature.“
    The Guns Over People party is a white supremacist organization.
    And they're not going away.
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin LouisPosts: 20,077
    the gop is now trying to moderate their position on abortion for the midterms. dems cannot let that happen. they need to hammer them on this issue to make people come out to the midterms.
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  • Cropduster-80Cropduster-80 Posts: 1,608
    edited August 5
    the gop is now trying to moderate their position on abortion for the midterms. dems cannot let that happen. they need to hammer them on this issue to make people come out to the midterms.
    So your saying a federal law protecting abortion access can get 60 votes in the senate? 

    If that happened yeah, not great for democrats 

    also probably not great strategically for democrats to try to pass it anyway, right now.  Since the republicans can support it so it doesn’t hurt their campaigns, take back congress and promptly repeal it 
    Post edited by Cropduster-80 on
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 25,759
    the gop is now trying to moderate their position on abortion for the midterms. dems cannot let that happen. they need to hammer them on this issue to make people come out to the midterms.
    So your saying a federal law protecting abortion access can get 60 votes in the senate? 

    If that happened yeah, not great for democrats 

    also probably not great strategically for democrats to try to pass it anyway, right now.  Since the republicans can support it so it doesn’t hurt their campaigns, take back congress and promptly repeal it 
    They are already put it up for a vote and it failed in the senate and I think the House.  So everyone is on record.   The reason it will continue to fail is that in KS, and other red states, you don't have a majority of primary voters that support choice.  So while it fails as a statewide initiative, a senator can still get primaried out. 
  • Cropduster-80Cropduster-80 Posts: 1,608
    mrussel1 said:
    the gop is now trying to moderate their position on abortion for the midterms. dems cannot let that happen. they need to hammer them on this issue to make people come out to the midterms.
    So your saying a federal law protecting abortion access can get 60 votes in the senate? 

    If that happened yeah, not great for democrats 

    also probably not great strategically for democrats to try to pass it anyway, right now.  Since the republicans can support it so it doesn’t hurt their campaigns, take back congress and promptly repeal it 
    They are already put it up for a vote and it failed in the senate and I think the House.  So everyone is on record.   The reason it will continue to fail is that in KS, and other red states, you don't have a majority of primary voters that support choice.  So while it fails as a statewide initiative, a senator can still get primaried out. 
    That was before the Kansas vote though I think.

    A lot backtracked on the burn pit legalisation too.  It could theoretically pass I would think as there are enough Republican senators up for re-election in November. 

    Maybe the calculation has changed.  Just speculating 
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 25,759
    mrussel1 said:
    the gop is now trying to moderate their position on abortion for the midterms. dems cannot let that happen. they need to hammer them on this issue to make people come out to the midterms.
    So your saying a federal law protecting abortion access can get 60 votes in the senate? 

    If that happened yeah, not great for democrats 

    also probably not great strategically for democrats to try to pass it anyway, right now.  Since the republicans can support it so it doesn’t hurt their campaigns, take back congress and promptly repeal it 
    They are already put it up for a vote and it failed in the senate and I think the House.  So everyone is on record.   The reason it will continue to fail is that in KS, and other red states, you don't have a majority of primary voters that support choice.  So while it fails as a statewide initiative, a senator can still get primaried out. 
    That was before the Kansas vote though I think.

    A lot backtracked on the burn pit legalisation too.  It could theoretically pass I would think as there are enough Republican senators up for re-election in November. 

    Maybe the calculation has changed.  Just speculating 
    I think it has changed,  but I'm not sure enough.  You still have to win a primary and there's no evidence a majority of the Rs voted "no" in Kansas. 
  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 4,856
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    the gop is now trying to moderate their position on abortion for the midterms. dems cannot let that happen. they need to hammer them on this issue to make people come out to the midterms.
    So your saying a federal law protecting abortion access can get 60 votes in the senate? 

    If that happened yeah, not great for democrats 

    also probably not great strategically for democrats to try to pass it anyway, right now.  Since the republicans can support it so it doesn’t hurt their campaigns, take back congress and promptly repeal it 
    They are already put it up for a vote and it failed in the senate and I think the House.  So everyone is on record.   The reason it will continue to fail is that in KS, and other red states, you don't have a majority of primary voters that support choice.  So while it fails as a statewide initiative, a senator can still get primaried out. 
    That was before the Kansas vote though I think.

    A lot backtracked on the burn pit legalisation too.  It could theoretically pass I would think as there are enough Republican senators up for re-election in November. 

    Maybe the calculation has changed.  Just speculating 
    I think it has changed,  but I'm not sure enough.  You still have to win a primary and there's no evidence a majority of the Rs voted "no" in Kansas. 

    The KS vote is a one off so far. Until these new voters show up every election every year, they will have minimal political power. So it’s business as usually for the republicans, for the next few years at least.
  • Cropduster-80Cropduster-80 Posts: 1,608
    edited August 5
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    the gop is now trying to moderate their position on abortion for the midterms. dems cannot let that happen. they need to hammer them on this issue to make people come out to the midterms.
    So your saying a federal law protecting abortion access can get 60 votes in the senate? 

    If that happened yeah, not great for democrats 

    also probably not great strategically for democrats to try to pass it anyway, right now.  Since the republicans can support it so it doesn’t hurt their campaigns, take back congress and promptly repeal it 
    They are already put it up for a vote and it failed in the senate and I think the House.  So everyone is on record.   The reason it will continue to fail is that in KS, and other red states, you don't have a majority of primary voters that support choice.  So while it fails as a statewide initiative, a senator can still get primaried out. 
    That was before the Kansas vote though I think.

    A lot backtracked on the burn pit legalisation too.  It could theoretically pass I would think as there are enough Republican senators up for re-election in November. 

    Maybe the calculation has changed.  Just speculating 
    I think it has changed,  but I'm not sure enough.  You still have to win a primary and there's no evidence a majority of the Rs voted "no" in Kansas. 
    What’s more realistic is they don’t filibuster but also don’t vote for it.  This idea everything needs 60 votes is absurd to begin with. 

    The 94 assault weapons ban passed with less than 60 votes.  It just wasn’t filibustered 

    at some point these republicans  are going to need a position between the base and the moderates 
    Post edited by Cropduster-80 on
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 31,454
    https://twitter.com/esqueer_/status/1555163269387763718?s=21&t=nPBdGcfLPkV3oEv-8erdrA

    “It should probably be a bigger deal that Viktor Orban is speaking at CPAC Dallas today. His own minister resigned over his Nazi style rhetoric decrying "race mixing." The overt white supremacy is not a bug, it's a feature.“
    The Guns Over People party is a white supremacist organization.
    And they're not going away.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 31,454
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 31,454
    Get ready for Faux News to scream about the crisis at the border.
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  • Cropduster-80Cropduster-80 Posts: 1,608
    Get ready for Faux News to scream about the crisis at the border.
    Why? Is Trump escaping?
  • stuckinlinestuckinline Posts: 3,286
    edited August 8
    Get ready for Faux News to scream about the crisis at the border.

    But what about Hillary's emails?  ;)

  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 31,454
    Get ready for Faux News to scream about the crisis at the border.
    Why? Is Trump escaping?
    Mexico and Canada both have extradition treaties with the US but someone please create a gif of POOTWH scaling the wall that Mexico paid for. Quick get Abbot and Costello’s National Guard there to apprehend him and put him on a bus to DC.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 31,454
    Get ready for Faux News to scream about the crisis at the border.

    But what about Hillary's emails?  ;)

    And Hunter’s laptop and Obama’s tan suit.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 31,454
    From a comment in the WaPo on today’s editorial:

    The dysfunctional Republican party is just itching to start a violent civil war to bring down the existing federal government and grab what it hopes will be long term political power, along with lucrative streams of income for itself and its dark money donor interests. All under the claimed subterfuge of the American flag, liberty, and patriotism -- of course. 

    What other play but chaos and destruction does the Republican party have left, given that it and nearly all of its members in Congress have proved incapable of governing the nation, and the party has been taken over by contentious and uncompromising factions -- including the propagandists, cultural warriors, anti-government anarchists, and the crazies - both certifiable and those acting on greed alone. It is now bereft of ideas and policies to advance the national interest as a whole and to improve the lives of ordinary Americans. Its members are unified only in their common interest to obstruct the efforts of their opposition, and then rant that the U.S. needs change and necessary upheaval. Choose Republicans, they argue, and they will fix "everything." Well, Americans have heard that pandering drivel before. 

    In its current state of accelerated desperation, the party and its nefarious members do little, in fact, to hide their objectives and the violent methods they and their followers intend to employ to reach them -- no matter the foreseeable cost to human lives and consequences to the country. It is little wonder that our allies abroad, mostly still in contained whisper, ask themselves and each other whether the implosion of the U.S. is imminent or at least in the near future. Use your critical thinking skills Americans, and act now to try and prevent this. It will be a horrible thing to watch and experience a country like the United states be destroyed from within. 
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 15,502
    Get ready for Faux News to scream about the crisis at the border.

    But what about Hillary's emails?  ;)

    And Hunter’s laptop and Obama’s tan suit.
    I do hate the bullshit deflection. But I wish everyone had Ben honest about hunter laptop. 

    Honestly I hated trump so much I don’t remember a lot about Hillary’s emails
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 31,454
    Get ready for Faux News to scream about the crisis at the border.

    But what about Hillary's emails?  ;)

    And Hunter’s laptop and Obama’s tan suit.
    I do hate the bullshit deflection. But I wish everyone had Ben honest about hunter laptop. 

    Honestly I hated trump so much I don’t remember a lot about Hillary’s emails
    What’s there to be honest about Hunter’s laptop? The provenance or chain of custody? The how and who it came to light? Is there evidence of a crime residing on those laptops? Please, what is this honesty that you speak of?
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  • OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MNPosts: 4,331
    I have to admit that I don't know anything about Hunter or his laptop. I mean, I know he's got all sorts of problems, but isn't the laptop just shady business deals? Either way, it's a deflection, but is there any actual national security or government connection with him?
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 15,502
    Get ready for Faux News to scream about the crisis at the border.

    But what about Hillary's emails?  ;)

    And Hunter’s laptop and Obama’s tan suit.
    I do hate the bullshit deflection. But I wish everyone had Ben honest about hunter laptop. 

    Honestly I hated trump so much I don’t remember a lot about Hillary’s emails
    What’s there to be honest about Hunter’s laptop? The provenance or chain of custody? The how and who it came to light? Is there evidence of a crime residing on those laptops? Please, what is this honesty that you speak of?
    Just that a few media sources immediately reported that the story was fake etc without doing due diligence. It’s existence.

    https://nypost.com/2022/03/30/washington-post-admits-hunter-biden-laptop-is-real/

    doesn’t bother me a lot but just wish media would do their job and investigate before making a call. Would eliminate all the bs complaints about them.

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  • Cropduster-80Cropduster-80 Posts: 1,608
    OnWis97 said:
    I have to admit that I don't know anything about Hunter or his laptop. I mean, I know he's got all sorts of problems, but isn't the laptop just shady business deals? Either way, it's a deflection, but is there any actual national security or government connection with him?
    The outrage seems to be about nepotism.  Hunter being shady and having access to his dad. 

    coming from the trump camp. Weird right?
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 31,454
    Get ready for Faux News to scream about the crisis at the border.

    But what about Hillary's emails?  ;)

    And Hunter’s laptop and Obama’s tan suit.
    I do hate the bullshit deflection. But I wish everyone had Ben honest about hunter laptop. 

    Honestly I hated trump so much I don’t remember a lot about Hillary’s emails
    What’s there to be honest about Hunter’s laptop? The provenance or chain of custody? The how and who it came to light? Is there evidence of a crime residing on those laptops? Please, what is this honesty that you speak of?
    Just that a few media sources immediately reported that the story was fake etc without doing due diligence. It’s existence.

    https://nypost.com/2022/03/30/washington-post-admits-hunter-biden-laptop-is-real/

    doesn’t bother me a lot but just wish media would do their job and investigate before making a call. Would eliminate all the bs complaints about them.

    Thanks for the Faux News Rupert Murdick link. I'm not sure the WaPo questioned that the lap tops were real, they were and are, but the purported contents and what and how it all connected to some "smoking gun" of nefarious business dealings. Everything is a projection and the laptop's purported contents, coupled with Ruddy Ghouliani's Ukraine excursions should have you questioning the NY Post's article.

    May I suggest that you call Bull Durham at 1-800-Got-Shit to see if the exsitence of Hunter's laptops means anything.
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 15,502
    Get ready for Faux News to scream about the crisis at the border.

    But what about Hillary's emails?  ;)

    And Hunter’s laptop and Obama’s tan suit.
    I do hate the bullshit deflection. But I wish everyone had Ben honest about hunter laptop. 

    Honestly I hated trump so much I don’t remember a lot about Hillary’s emails
    What’s there to be honest about Hunter’s laptop? The provenance or chain of custody? The how and who it came to light? Is there evidence of a crime residing on those laptops? Please, what is this honesty that you speak of?
    Just that a few media sources immediately reported that the story was fake etc without doing due diligence. It’s existence.

    https://nypost.com/2022/03/30/washington-post-admits-hunter-biden-laptop-is-real/

    doesn’t bother me a lot but just wish media would do their job and investigate before making a call. Would eliminate all the bs complaints about them.

    Thanks for the Faux News Rupert Murdick link. I'm not sure the WaPo questioned that the lap tops were real, they were and are, but the purported contents and what and how it all connected to some "smoking gun" of nefarious business dealings. Everything is a projection and the laptop's purported contents, coupled with Ruddy Ghouliani's Ukraine excursions should have you questioning the NY Post's article.

    May I suggest that you call Bull Durham at 1-800-Got-Shit to see if the exsitence of Hunter's laptops means anything.
    So you deny that the other news services ended up having to back track? You keep changing the subject. I mentioned the news media coverage if it, nothing about what’s on the laptop
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 25,790
    Get ready for Faux News to scream about the crisis at the border.

    But what about Hillary's emails?  ;)

    And Hunter’s laptop and Obama’s tan suit.
    I do hate the bullshit deflection. But I wish everyone had Ben honest about hunter laptop. 

    Honestly I hated trump so much I don’t remember a lot about Hillary’s emails
    What’s there to be honest about Hunter’s laptop? The provenance or chain of custody? The how and who it came to light? Is there evidence of a crime residing on those laptops? Please, what is this honesty that you speak of?
    Just that a few media sources immediately reported that the story was fake etc without doing due diligence. It’s existence.

    https://nypost.com/2022/03/30/washington-post-admits-hunter-biden-laptop-is-real/

    doesn’t bother me a lot but just wish media would do their job and investigate before making a call. Would eliminate all the bs complaints about them.

    Thanks for the Faux News Rupert Murdick link. I'm not sure the WaPo questioned that the lap tops were real, they were and are, but the purported contents and what and how it all connected to some "smoking gun" of nefarious business dealings. Everything is a projection and the laptop's purported contents, coupled with Ruddy Ghouliani's Ukraine excursions should have you questioning the NY Post's article.

    May I suggest that you call Bull Durham at 1-800-Got-Shit to see if the exsitence of Hunter's laptops means anything.
    So you deny that the other news services ended up having to back track? You keep changing the subject. I mentioned the news media coverage if it, nothing about what’s on the laptop

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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 31,454
    mickeyrat said:
    Get ready for Faux News to scream about the crisis at the border.

    But what about Hillary's emails?  ;)

    And Hunter’s laptop and Obama’s tan suit.
    I do hate the bullshit deflection. But I wish everyone had Ben honest about hunter laptop. 

    Honestly I hated trump so much I don’t remember a lot about Hillary’s emails
    What’s there to be honest about Hunter’s laptop? The provenance or chain of custody? The how and who it came to light? Is there evidence of a crime residing on those laptops? Please, what is this honesty that you speak of?
    Just that a few media sources immediately reported that the story was fake etc without doing due diligence. It’s existence.

    https://nypost.com/2022/03/30/washington-post-admits-hunter-biden-laptop-is-real/

    doesn’t bother me a lot but just wish media would do their job and investigate before making a call. Would eliminate all the bs complaints about them.

    Thanks for the Faux News Rupert Murdick link. I'm not sure the WaPo questioned that the lap tops were real, they were and are, but the purported contents and what and how it all connected to some "smoking gun" of nefarious business dealings. Everything is a projection and the laptop's purported contents, coupled with Ruddy Ghouliani's Ukraine excursions should have you questioning the NY Post's article.

    May I suggest that you call Bull Durham at 1-800-Got-Shit to see if the exsitence of Hunter's laptops means anything.
    So you deny that the other news services ended up having to back track? You keep changing the subject. I mentioned the news media coverage if it, nothing about what’s on the laptop

    on brand....
    Yea, on brand. LOL.

    When the New York Post first reported in October 2020 that it had obtained the contents of a laptop computer allegedly owned by Joe Biden’s son Hunter, there was an immediate roadblock faced by any other news outlet that hoped to corroborate the reporting, as many did: The newspaper wasn’t sharing what it obtained.

    The national story quickly centered on the dubious provenance of the material, particularly given how, four years before, WikiLeaks had begun releasing material stolen by Russian hackers at about the same point in the presidential contest. But for news outlets interested in actually evaluating what the New York Post claimed it had, neither the paper nor its source for the material, President Donald Trump’s attorney Rudy Giuliani, were willing to share. (Giuliani famously toldthe New York Times that he was hoping to avoid having the material vetted before being published.) It therefore seemed wise to treat the New York Post’s claims with some skepticism.

    Now, a new voice has joined those raising questions about the validity of the material that’s alleged to have been on Hunter Biden’s laptop: the guy who recovered that data in the first place.

    Last month, The Washington Post was able to publish a report based on a copy of material that we obtained from a Republican activist named Jack Maxey who’d gotten it from Giuliani. We had multiple experts examine the contents of a hard drive that purported to contain the laptop’s contents, validating tens of thousands of emails as likely to be legitimate. But an enormous amount of the material on the drive couldn’t be validated as legitimate, in part because of the game of telephone that the material had undergone by the time it reached us. (The report notes that efforts to obtain the material in 2020 were rebuffed.)

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  • Cropduster-80Cropduster-80 Posts: 1,608
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    Now I can sleep tonight. Thanks 

    until the next polls 

    mitch in the senate said similar…  We may gain seats or lose seats but it’s going to be close.  
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