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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,640
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    67K+ Floridians voted for Matt Getts Off in his repub primary. There is no hope.
    districts are 750k?

    540K registered voters, approximately, 53% of which are repubs. There is no hope.
    His district isn't representative of me or my district.  It's our country,  not his.  They are the minority 
    That 64K+ voted for that child molesting scumbag is an indication of the rot that is alive and well in the repub party and when they retake Congress, Matt Getts Off and his ilk will be committee chairs because the POOTWH wing is the party and like it or not, they’ll be representing you and your district and nation. Minority rule, dontcha know? Being cemented as I type.

    Has Youngkin publicly acknowledged that Brandon is the legitimately elected POTUS and that POOTWH lost fair and square?
    There's a big difference between "the rot is still alive"  and "there's no hope" .  If there is no hope,  why are you in this country at all? If I truly believed that,  I'd be leaving the country. I don't say that lightly.  I would do it.  

    As far as Youngkin,  he played both sides like the weasel he is. During the primary,  he wouldn't really say.  His opponent Amanda Chase did... all day every day.  One the election moved to general he said, "“Glenn Youngkin has repeatedly said that Joe Biden was legitimately elected and that there was no significant fraud in Virginia’s 2020 election, leading to the only logical conclusion that he would have certified the election,” the statement said.
    Case in point. Couple that with Moscow Mitchy Baby saying he has “no comment” after POOTWH called his wife crazy at a rally on Saturday. The repubs are afraid of him and their silence and fear is deafening. That is the rot that runs through the whole party and a very significant portion of the ‘Murican voting public. 73K+ Floridians voted for Matt Getts Off is a microcosm of the shit to come. Imagine him, Gym Jordan, Maggie Three Names, Lorena Bobbit and Sarah Fucking Palin heading up committees and having full control in 2024 under a Deathsantis Administration? 

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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,645
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    67K+ Floridians voted for Matt Getts Off in his repub primary. There is no hope.
    districts are 750k?

    540K registered voters, approximately, 53% of which are repubs. There is no hope.
    His district isn't representative of me or my district.  It's our country,  not his.  They are the minority 
    That 64K+ voted for that child molesting scumbag is an indication of the rot that is alive and well in the repub party and when they retake Congress, Matt Getts Off and his ilk will be committee chairs because the POOTWH wing is the party and like it or not, they’ll be representing you and your district and nation. Minority rule, dontcha know? Being cemented as I type.

    Has Youngkin publicly acknowledged that Brandon is the legitimately elected POTUS and that POOTWH lost fair and square?
    There's a big difference between "the rot is still alive"  and "there's no hope" .  If there is no hope,  why are you in this country at all? If I truly believed that,  I'd be leaving the country. I don't say that lightly.  I would do it.  

    As far as Youngkin,  he played both sides like the weasel he is. During the primary,  he wouldn't really say.  His opponent Amanda Chase did... all day every day.  One the election moved to general he said, "“Glenn Youngkin has repeatedly said that Joe Biden was legitimately elected and that there was no significant fraud in Virginia’s 2020 election, leading to the only logical conclusion that he would have certified the election,” the statement said.
    Case in point. Couple that with Moscow Mitchy Baby saying he has “no comment” after POOTWH called his wife crazy at a rally on Saturday. The repubs are afraid of him and their silence and fear is deafening. That is the rot that runs through the whole party and a very significant portion of the ‘Murican voting public. 73K+ Floridians voted for Matt Getts Off is a microcosm of the shit to come. Imagine him, Gym Jordan, Maggie Three Names, Lorena Bobbit and Sarah Fucking Palin heading up committees and having full control in 2024 under a Deathsantis Administration? 

    I’m working on leaving this country and I suggest that you keep your passport valid and handy.
    There's a lot of Republicans,  for sure. But that's not the majority. And I'm not giving up the country or the flag to those douchers. 
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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,307
    At least some of those really, really, weird fringe republicans lost last night. Was nice to see that wacko Loomer crying during her "I'm not conceding conceding speech last night."
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    HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,835
    Mitch doesn't fear trump. He doesn't engage trump because he doesn't want to give trump the air time and the ability to drag him into a shit slinging fight, of which trump always wins. 

    trump was a useful idiot to mitch for a few years. now mitch is moving on. mitch is evil, but he's much, much smarter than trump is. he knows the best way to get rid of him is to not engage. 
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    OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 4,829
    The base is starting to turn on Mitch, probably because they see him trying to distance himself from Trump. Nobody ever did more for the base than Mitch...he's more responsible than anyone for the GQP being in position to be the only party. But you cannot waver from your fealty to Trump even a little, as Liz obviously learned and Dan Crenshaw is learning. Mitch? Well, he's old enough that I don't know if he'll run again, but at this point, he could be on the road to being primaried.

    Trump was a useful idiot. The problem for some people is that he was almost too useful and now the base is totally devoted and the loyalty to him is pretty much the only thing that matters. I bounce between being floored at how pitifully devoted people like JD Vance, Lindsey, etc. are and understanding that the devotion is key to being able to win primaries.

    Reagan was immensely popular. But I don't think the party and the voters were conducing ongoing support/purity testing like they are now. He was beloved, more so than Trump, but it wasn't a cult.
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,640
    The bloodless coup is in motion. Moscow Mitchy Baby is done after his term ends and his legacy will be that he ensconced white nationalism for at least a generation. The South will ride again.

    Have any currently elected repubs publicly condemned POOTWH for taking highly classified documents to Mar-I-Lieo and for refusing to give them up? Their silence speaks volumes.
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,640
    From the NYT email blast. If you don't believe that what is going on in the repub party is a threat to our democracy or that its a passing fad and won't last, you're sadly mistaken.



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    By David Leonhardt and Ian Prasad Philbrick

     

    Good morning. We break down elected Republicans into three groups, based on their stances toward false claims about the 2020 election.

     

     

    Trump supporters at a rally in Mendon, Ill., in June.Rachel Mummey for The New York Times

    The DeSantis two-step

    Dozens of Republican officials continue to tell lies about the 2020 election, claiming that Donald Trump lost only because of fraud. These claims are especially worrisome for the future of American democracy because they suggest that those same officials might be willing to overturn a future election result and hand power to the rightful loser.

    On the other hand, dozens of other Republicans have never claimed that Trump lost because of fraud. This list includes most Republican senators (like Mitch McConnell, the party’s Senate leader), several governors (like Mike DeWine of Ohio) and other state-level officials.

    In the latter group of Republicans, however, a split is emerging. Some have decided that lies about the 2020 election are a red line they will not cross, and they have refused to endorse other Republicans making the claims. Others are actively campaigning for election deniers — and, in the process, enabling the spread of the false claims.

    In today’s newsletter, we will break down the three groups of Republicans: the deniers, the enablers and the accepters.

    We’ll also give you the latest results from last night’s primary elections in Florida, New York and Oklahoma.

    The deniers

    Republicans who falsely claimed that the 2020 presidential election was fraudulent now make up more than half of the party’s major elected officials in some states. In the House of Representatives, almost two-thirds of current Republican members objected to the 2020 result in at least one state. So did eight senators and attorneys general in 17 states.

    This faction of Republicans seems to be growing, too. Overall, Republican voters have nominated more than 100 candidates for Congress or statewide office who echo Trump’s false claims of fraud. The Washington Post has compiled a list, and it includes top officials in several swing states — like Michigan and Pennsylvania — that could determine the 2024 presidential election.

    Last night’s voting: In Oklahoma, Republicans nominated Markwayne Mullin, a Trump-endorsed congressman who has claimed that the 2020 election was stolen, in a Senate primary runoff.

    The enablers

    Gov. Ron DeSantis of Florida is a telling case study. Many political analysts believe that DeSantis is likely to run for president in 2024. As he prepares for a potential campaign, DeSantis is trying to distinguish himself from Trump while also appealing to Trump’s supporters.

    Ron DeSantis at a rally in Phoenix this month.Rebecca Noble for The New York Times

    One way he seems to be doing so is his approach to the false claims about the 2020 election. He has studiously avoided making them himself. (As Politico puts it: “When asked by reporters whether the last presidential election was rigged, DeSantis has instead highlighted changes to election laws he has supported or simply changed the topic.”) At the same time, DeSantis is embracing other Republicans who do echo Trump’s lies.

    He traveled to Arizona to campaign for Kari Lake, the Republican nominee for governor, and Blake Masters, the Senate nominee. In Pittsburgh last week, DeSantis gave a 40-minute speech at an event for Doug Mastriano, the Pennsylvania governor nominee. DeSantis has also held a rally with J.D. Vance, the Ohio Senate candidate who has claimed that 2020 featured “people voting illegally on a large-scale basis.”

    Among the other Republican enablers:

    • Gov. Doug Ducey of Arizona — despite saying that Lake was “misleading voters” about election fraud — is supporting her in the general election. “It’s important for Arizona Republicans to unite behind our slate of candidates,” he tweeted.
    • Gov. Glenn Youngkin of Virginia is scheduled to campaign this week with Tudor Dixon, the Republican nominee for Michigan governor, who has made false election claims.
    • McConnell has endorsed Herschel Walker, the Trump-backed Georgia Senate candidate who has also repeatedly made false election claims. And a group affiliated with McConnell recently announced it would spend tens of millions of dollars on TV and radio ads to boost Vance.

    The accepters

    The number of Republicans who have treated false election claims as a defining issue is much smaller, but it’s not zero:

    • Larry Hogan, Maryland’s Republican governor (who cannot run again, because of term limits), is refusing to endorse and is harshly criticizing his party’s nominee for governor this year, Dan Cox. Cox has called the 2020 election fraudulent and chartered buses for the Trump rally that preceded the Jan. 6 riot.
    • John Bridgeland, a Republican former staffer to Rob Portman and George W. Bush, endorsed Tim Ryan, the Ohio Democrat running for Senate, over Vance. “If Vance is willing to undermine his own integrity and character for public office, imagine what he might do if he were a U.S. senator,” Bridgeland wrote in The Cincinnati Enquirer.
    • In the Colorado Senate race, Joe O’Dea won the Republican nomination over a rival who attended Trump’s Jan. 6 “Stop the Steal” rally. O’Dea criticized his opponent for focusing on the past.
    • Most prominently, Representative Liz Cheney, who lost in a primary last week to Harriet Hageman, called on voters to oust election-denying Republicans. “Let us resolve that we will stand together — Republicans, Democrats and independents — against those who would destroy our republic,” Cheney said in her concession speech.

    The bottom line: It remains unclear whether the Republicans denying the 2020 election result — or the Republicans enabling those deniers — would ultimately be willing to overturn a future election. But their words and behavior certainly suggest that they might participate in such an effort or at least tolerate it.

    More results

    • In Florida, Democrats chose Representative Charlie Crist — the former Republican governor — to challenge DeSantis.
    • Democrats outperformed polls in two House special elections in upstate New York, winning one and losing the other by single digits.
    • In New York City, Jerry Nadler defeated Carolyn Maloney in a battle between powerful, long-serving House Democrats after a redrawn map combined their districts.
    • In New York’s suburbs, Sean Patrick Maloney, chair of the Democratic House campaign committee, beat Alessandra Biaggi, a progressive state senator endorsed by Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.

     

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    dankinddankind I am not your foot. Posts: 20,827
    Charlie Crist again, eh? 

    And my family asks why I won't come visit them....
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    static111static111 Posts: 4,889
    dankind said:
    Charlie Crist again, eh? 

    And my family asks why I won't come visit them....
    But he is a Democrat this time so obviously great for the country and progressive policies.
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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,307
    edited August 2022
    static111 said:
    dankind said:
    Charlie Crist again, eh? 

    And my family asks why I won't come visit them....
    But he is a Democrat this time so obviously great for the country and progressive policies.
    I don't think he's a progressive but I believe it would definitely be great for the country if he defeats Desantis. 
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    dankinddankind I am not your foot. Posts: 20,827
    static111 said:
    dankind said:
    Charlie Crist again, eh? 

    And my family asks why I won't come visit them....
    But he is a Democrat this time so obviously great for the country and progressive policies.
    I don't think he's a progressive but I believe it would definitely be great for the country if he defeats Desantis. 
    He's like Florida's version of Joe Biden. Kind of an old mainstay that they're hoping will return some decency to a place where the definition of decent is arming teachers and forcing children to have children.
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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,307
    dankind said:
    static111 said:
    dankind said:
    Charlie Crist again, eh? 

    And my family asks why I won't come visit them....
    But he is a Democrat this time so obviously great for the country and progressive policies.
    I don't think he's a progressive but I believe it would definitely be great for the country if he defeats Desantis. 
    He's like Florida's version of Joe Biden. Kind of an old mainstay that they're hoping will return some decency to a place where the definition of decent is arming teachers and forcing children to have children.
    I know who he is. More importantly, I know who he is not. 

    Unfortunately, unlike Joe, Crist's chances of winning are extremely slim.
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    Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 10,507
    Laura Loomer is asking if people know how much her life is ruined and wants to know what people are doing about it. 


    This is the greatest thing I’ve seen in some time. 
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    HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,835
    thoughts and prayers, laura, thoughts and prayers. 
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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,307
    I think that video is old. Her face looks different now. 
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    Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 10,507
    I think that video is old. Her face looks different now. 
    It very well may be. 

    While on the subject... she's 29 years old. Who knew grifting took that much of a toll? 
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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,307
    I think that video is old. Her face looks different now. 
    It very well may be. 

    While on the subject... she's 29 years old. Who knew grifting took that much of a toll? 
    I know right?

    By the way, the voter fraud claim---IN A REPUBLICAN PRIMARY--- is just amazing, isn't it?

    These people have no shame. 
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,640
    I think that video is old. Her face looks different now. 
    It very well may be. 

    While on the subject... she's 29 years old. Who knew grifting took that much of a toll? 
    I know right?

    By the way, the voter fraud claim---IN A REPUBLICAN PRIMARY--- is just amazing, isn't it?

    These people have no shame. 

    It’s all the illegals and communist liberal socialist antiiiiiiiiiifa and BLM’er Dems that switched parties to vote in the repub primary, duh. And the Jewish Italian Hugo Chavez space laser vote changer, double duh.
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    OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 4,829
    I think that video is old. Her face looks different now. 
    It very well may be. 

    While on the subject... she's 29 years old. Who knew grifting took that much of a toll? 
    I know right?

    By the way, the voter fraud claim---IN A REPUBLICAN PRIMARY--- is just amazing, isn't it?

    These people have no shame. 
    It's sort of the natural progression one might expect when self-centered has become such a common trait in the people the party promotes. First they accuse the opposing party of cheating and it's absolutely no surprise that the candidates that operate in Trump's image are going "Me First" and acting this way within the party.
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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,307
    OnWis97 said:
    I think that video is old. Her face looks different now. 
    It very well may be. 

    While on the subject... she's 29 years old. Who knew grifting took that much of a toll? 
    I know right?

    By the way, the voter fraud claim---IN A REPUBLICAN PRIMARY--- is just amazing, isn't it?

    These people have no shame. 
    It's sort of the natural progression one might expect when self-centered has become such a common trait in the people the party promotes. First they accuse the opposing party of cheating and it's absolutely no surprise that the candidates that operate in Trump's image are going "Me First" and acting this way within the party.
    It's actually surprising to see any them concede now. Fucking crazy. 
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    TJ25487 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    TJ25487 said:
    Cheney is a neocon warmonger just like her dear old dad. The only reason she agreed to be on the Jan 6 witch hunt panel is because she knew she was going to lose her primary just like the other 7 out of 10 Repubs that voted for Trump's impeachment. She committed political suicide and thought she might as well go out swinging. She basically thought that if she couldn't help her own party than she might as well try and help the uniparty. Nice try Liz! Enjoy your millions of dollars of wealth in retirement that you acquired in just 6 years as a public servant.

     
    Yeah, these are called 'principles'.  You should check into them some time.  Voting for impeachment was political suicide for her.  That should make you respect her more.  Instead, you think of it as something negative.  So very odd.  

    So to be clear, you were with the Democrats, Dixie Chicks and the Peaceniks back in 2003 and against the war, correct?  
    So voting for a fake witch hunt means you have principles huh? Boy did I learn something today. Thank you! 
    Your comments justify what I've concluded about the left since Trump took office. "The end justifies the means" No matter how we do it (legally or illegally) we must do it. No thanks! 
    listen to yourself. if any democrat had done anything anywhere near what Trump did to provoke either impeachment, you'd be calling for the gallows. 

    I mean, most of you want Biden to be booted from office because his son has drug problems and he lost a laptop. ffs
    It’s the trying to make an equivalent to stuff like Obama’s birth certificate or his tan suit to bribing Ukraine.  Hillary and classified documents Vs trump and classified documents.  Trump’s issues are way more severe and it’s not even close 

    if Obama broke the law I would have wanted him removed from office.  

    The end justifies the means on the left is a reaction to republicans doing it. Two wrongs don’t make a right but you also can’t win a gun fight with a knife 

    Biden’s son is shady, so are Trumps kids and the kushner family.  That has nothing to do directly to either the president or the former president 
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    TJ25487 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    TJ25487 said:
    Cheney is a neocon warmonger just like her dear old dad. The only reason she agreed to be on the Jan 6 witch hunt panel is because she knew she was going to lose her primary just like the other 7 out of 10 Repubs that voted for Trump's impeachment. She committed political suicide and thought she might as well go out swinging. She basically thought that if she couldn't help her own party than she might as well try and help the uniparty. Nice try Liz! Enjoy your millions of dollars of wealth in retirement that you acquired in just 6 years as a public servant.

     
    Yeah, these are called 'principles'.  You should check into them some time.  Voting for impeachment was political suicide for her.  That should make you respect her more.  Instead, you think of it as something negative.  So very odd.  

    So to be clear, you were with the Democrats, Dixie Chicks and the Peaceniks back in 2003 and against the war, correct?  
    So voting for a fake witch hunt means you have principles huh? Boy did I learn something today. Thank you! 
    Your comments justify what I've concluded about the left since Trump took office. "The end justifies the means" No matter how we do it (legally or illegally) we must do it. No thanks! 
    listen to yourself. if any democrat had done anything anywhere near what Trump did to provoke either impeachment, you'd be calling for the gallows. 

    I mean, most of you want Biden to be booted from office because his son has drug problems and he lost a laptop. ffs
    It’s the trying to make an equivalent to stuff like Obama’s birth certificate or his tan suit to bribing Ukraine.  Hillary and classified documents Vs trump and classified documents.  Trump’s issues are way more severe and it’s not even close 

    if Obama broke the law I would have wanted him removed from office.  

    The end justifies the means on the left is a reaction to republicans doing it. Two wrongs don’t make a right but you also can’t win a gun fight with a knife 

    Biden’s son is shady, so are Trumps kids and the kushner family.  That has nothing to do directly to either the president or the former president 
    “Biden’s son is shady.” How so?
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    Has anyone gotten Tom “I’m a Warrior Hear me Roar” Cotton’s thoughts? Think he’s on board?

    https://thehill.com/homenews/3614769-trump-calls-for-mcconnell-to-be-ousted-as-gop-leader-immediately/
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    Thanks for all the crazed dummies on the ballot, Don. 


    https://www.thedailybeast.com/donald-trumps-legacy-is-convincing-idiots-that-they-should-run-for-office?ref=scroll


    Trump’s Legacy Is Convincing Idiots That They Should Run for Office

    IDIOCRACY WAS A DOCUMENTARY

    I get the appeal of having “outsiders” come in and “shake up the system.” But MAGA candidates are proving the folly of the know-nothing candidate.


    Illustration by Elizabeth Brockway/The Daily Beast

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    Donald Trump has left his mark on the American body politic in myriad ways. But one of the lesser-discussed aspects of the way the 45th president forever changed this country is how he’s endowed unqualified idiots with the grandiose confidence to believe they, too, should run for high political office.

    Look no further than the November midterms. Last week, Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell acknowledged that it was more likely the House would flip to Republicans than the Senate, blaming “candidate quality.”


    The critique was interpreted as a veiled shot at Trump (who boosted some of the weakest Senate candidates, such as Dr. Mehmet Oz in Pennsylvania and former NFL star Herschel Walker in Georgia). The truth, though, is that most people don’t realize that Trump has done even more damage to Republicans’ chances of taking back the Senate.


    If Trump hadn’t sabotaged two U.S. Senate seats in Georgia back in 2020 by insisting the vote was rigged, Republicans would never have lost control of the Senate to begin with. What is more, Sen. Kelly Loeffler would be running for re-election, thus making Herschel Walker’s (shall we say) unorthodox candidacy a moot point.

    The same could be said for Dr. Oz’s crudités faux pas. Absent Trump, it’s entirely possible that, instead of heading for the exits, Republican Sen. Pat Toomey would be coasting to re-election in the Keystone State.

    Next door in Ohio, bestselling author J.D. Vance is facing an unexpectedly tough challenge from Democratic Rep. Tim Ryan. But if not for the specter of Trump looming over GOP electoral politics, would Republican Sen. Rob Portman be retiring in what would normally be considered a great Republican year?

    There have also been missed opportunities for candidate recruitment. In a normal world, Arizona Gov. Doug Ducey, who is term-limited (and was attacked by Trump for not going along with the stolen election lie), likely would have run for the U.S. Senate this year. You could argue the same thing about New Hampshire Gov. Chris Sununu—a popular, sane Republican—who, too, opted not to run for the Senate.

    Aside from pushing aside quality candidates who might, you know, win— another aspect of Trump’s influence is that he is a magnet for inexperienced and just plain weird wannabes.

    “What do GOP Senate candidates Mehmet Oz, Herschel Walker, Vance, [Arizona Senate candidate] Blake Masters, and the not-so-Trumpy [Colorado Senate candidate] Joe O’Dea have in common?” asks National Review’s Jim Geraghty. “None of them have run for office before. Ever. Not even town council or school board.” (Geraghty also points out that the same is true of Arizona gubernatorial candidate Kari Lake.)

    To be sure, the trend of inexperienced candidates predates Trump, even if Trump’s example has made the phenomenon more prevalent. Yes, ex-wrestler and actor Jesse Ventura was elected governor of Minnesota, comedian and SNL veteran Al Franken was elected to the Senate from the same state, Arnold Schwarzenegger won the governorship in California, and, of course, a reality star named Trump was elected president.

    Then there were the celebrities-turned-politicians that came to the table with some qualifications. Ronald Reagan was an actor, but he was also president of the Screen Actors Guild. Jack Kemp was a quarterback for the Buffalo Bills, but he was also a policy wonk who interned for Reagan before being elected to the House. Bill Bradley had a basketball Hall of Fame career with the New York Knicks, but he was a Rhodes scholar who also worked on political campaigns before winning a Senate seat out of New Jersey.

    “Aside from pushing aside quality candidates who might, you know, win—another aspect of Trump’s influence is that he is a magnet for inexperienced and just plain weird wannabes.”

    Some political naifs, in their chosen fields, are obviously talented. Dr. Ben Carson, for example, was a renowned neurosurgeon before becoming a laughable presidential candidate. But politics is different from other pursuits, and just because the rules didn’t apply to Trump in 2016 doesn’t mean they won’t apply to you.

    And there’s a difference between wanting a bunch of boring establishment career politicians and thinking the U.S. Senate is a no-experience-required gig for washed-up celebrities.

    Regardless, there will be zero price for Trump to pay if his melange of not-ready-for-prime time candidates lose in November—as increasingly seems likely.

    If sabotaging the U.S. Senate the day before the Capitol riot wasn’t enough to harm him among Republicans, it’s hard to imagine that Dr. Oz losing to John Fetterman would kill his political career.

    Besides, Trump would rather preside over a MAGA party whose remaining members are 100 percent beholden to him, than a big-tent party whose members think for themselves. He couldn’t care less if Republicans control the Senate in 2022. For Trump it is, and always will be, about Trump.

    •  McConnell, the loyal GOP tactician who so obviously despises Trump—but hesitated to put his own political capital on the line to vanquish him. Should Trump’s band of idiot candidates fail, it will cost McConnell the chance to reclaim the title of majority leader.

    McConnell has had his chance to save the party before, like when he voted to acquit Trump at his second impeachment trial before unleashing an impassioned speech in which the Kentucky senator laid the blame for Jan. 6 exclusively at Trump’s feet.

    But he blew it then, just as Republicans seem poised to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory in the midterms.

    As Trump might say, “SAD!”

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    Cropduster-80Cropduster-80 Posts: 2,034
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    TJ25487 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    TJ25487 said:
    Cheney is a neocon warmonger just like her dear old dad. The only reason she agreed to be on the Jan 6 witch hunt panel is because she knew she was going to lose her primary just like the other 7 out of 10 Repubs that voted for Trump's impeachment. She committed political suicide and thought she might as well go out swinging. She basically thought that if she couldn't help her own party than she might as well try and help the uniparty. Nice try Liz! Enjoy your millions of dollars of wealth in retirement that you acquired in just 6 years as a public servant.

     
    Yeah, these are called 'principles'.  You should check into them some time.  Voting for impeachment was political suicide for her.  That should make you respect her more.  Instead, you think of it as something negative.  So very odd.  

    So to be clear, you were with the Democrats, Dixie Chicks and the Peaceniks back in 2003 and against the war, correct?  
    So voting for a fake witch hunt means you have principles huh? Boy did I learn something today. Thank you! 
    Your comments justify what I've concluded about the left since Trump took office. "The end justifies the means" No matter how we do it (legally or illegally) we must do it. No thanks! 
    listen to yourself. if any democrat had done anything anywhere near what Trump did to provoke either impeachment, you'd be calling for the gallows. 

    I mean, most of you want Biden to be booted from office because his son has drug problems and he lost a laptop. ffs
    It’s the trying to make an equivalent to stuff like Obama’s birth certificate or his tan suit to bribing Ukraine.  Hillary and classified documents Vs trump and classified documents.  Trump’s issues are way more severe and it’s not even close 

    if Obama broke the law I would have wanted him removed from office.  

    The end justifies the means on the left is a reaction to republicans doing it. Two wrongs don’t make a right but you also can’t win a gun fight with a knife 

    Biden’s son is shady, so are Trumps kids and the kushner family.  That has nothing to do directly to either the president or the former president 
    “Biden’s son is shady.” How so?
    Well starting with his personal life. Shady. Having an affair with your dead brothers widow definitely qualifies 
    his business deals are also questionable.  

    However, if you are judging a person by their family. Trump wins every time in the being shady department 

    im not talking about crimes as I don’t know, but all of the trumps, kushners, and hunter have questionable ethics. So if you are making an issue out of one, make an issue out of all.  It’s absurd for the right to be so fixated on Hunter when ignoring trump’s family. Personally I don’t make a big issue out of any of them as it’s not particularly relevant 
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    This miserable idiot is running for governor in Illinois. 
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    ...Which one?
    ...Just kidding; it doesn't matter.
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    DewieCox said:
    This miserable idiot is running for governor in Illinois. 
    Are they snake dancing?
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,645
    DewieCox said:
    This miserable idiot is running for governor in Illinois. 
    I'm sorry,  in which Bible is Jesus a man of war? That's the most ridiculous and borderline blasphemous thing I've seen.  I don't know if there is a Christian God or not,  but that sign is a perversion of both the historical and religious Jesus.
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    Cropduster-80Cropduster-80 Posts: 2,034
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    mrussel1 said:
    DewieCox said:
    This miserable idiot is running for governor in Illinois. 
    I'm sorry,  in which Bible is Jesus a man of war? That's the most ridiculous and borderline blasphemous thing I've seen.  I don't know if there is a Christian God or not,  but that sign is a perversion of both the historical and religious Jesus.
    Exodus 15:3 

    pre Jesus, so that’s god apparently.  He did seem angry back then with all the smiting 
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