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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 20,273
    "Around 66 percent of Iowa caucus-goers say they believe Biden’s win in the last election was illegitimate, while 29 percent say it was legitimate, according to the polls. Despite the numbers, allegations of voter fraud have been widely disproven."

    https://thehill.com/elections/4410854-almost-two-thirds-iowa-caucusgoers-biden-not-legitimate-2020/

    Goddamn scary how idiots out wandering around think.  
    There is an alternate reality that is destroying us. Until we curb free speech we're fucked.
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  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,355
    "Around 66 percent of Iowa caucus-goers say they believe Biden’s win in the last election was illegitimate, while 29 percent say it was legitimate, according to the polls. Despite the numbers, allegations of voter fraud have been widely disproven."

    https://thehill.com/elections/4410854-almost-two-thirds-iowa-caucusgoers-biden-not-legitimate-2020/

    Goddamn scary how idiots out wandering around think.  
    There is an alternate reality that is destroying us. Until we curb free speech we're fucked.
    Yeah, lets not do that...
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,586
    "Around 66 percent of Iowa caucus-goers say they believe Biden’s win in the last election was illegitimate, while 29 percent say it was legitimate, according to the polls. Despite the numbers, allegations of voter fraud have been widely disproven."

    https://thehill.com/elections/4410854-almost-two-thirds-iowa-caucusgoers-biden-not-legitimate-2020/

    Goddamn scary how idiots out wandering around think.  
    There is an alternate reality that is destroying us. Until we curb free speech we're fucked.

    one lady was spewing, fuckstick is still president. biden died in 2019 but currently lives in california.  and james woods is playing him niw....
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  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,355
    mickeyrat said:
    "Around 66 percent of Iowa caucus-goers say they believe Biden’s win in the last election was illegitimate, while 29 percent say it was legitimate, according to the polls. Despite the numbers, allegations of voter fraud have been widely disproven."

    https://thehill.com/elections/4410854-almost-two-thirds-iowa-caucusgoers-biden-not-legitimate-2020/

    Goddamn scary how idiots out wandering around think.  
    There is an alternate reality that is destroying us. Until we curb free speech we're fucked.

    one lady was spewing, fuckstick is still president. biden died in 2019 but currently lives in california.  and james woods is playing him niw....
    If we have people that believe everything is a conspiracy then we surely can't help those people, nothing you could say will change their minds...
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,586
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  • tbergstbergs Posts: 9,810
    "Around 66 percent of Iowa caucus-goers say they believe Biden’s win in the last election was illegitimate, while 29 percent say it was legitimate, according to the polls. Despite the numbers, allegations of voter fraud have been widely disproven."

    https://thehill.com/elections/4410854-almost-two-thirds-iowa-caucusgoers-biden-not-legitimate-2020/

    Goddamn scary how idiots out wandering around think.  
    And also:

    https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/northern-virginia/prince-william-county-admits-election-tally-in-2020-shorted-joe-biden/3514995/

    If this was reversed, MAGA would be going crazy and trying to legitimize their stolen election claims.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,020
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,586
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,020
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  • VitalogensiaVitalogensia Posts: 1,995
    tbergs said:
    "Around 66 percent of Iowa caucus-goers say they believe Biden’s win in the last election was illegitimate, while 29 percent say it was legitimate, according to the polls. Despite the numbers, allegations of voter fraud have been widely disproven."

    https://thehill.com/elections/4410854-almost-two-thirds-iowa-caucusgoers-biden-not-legitimate-2020/

    Goddamn scary how idiots out wandering around think.  
    And also:

    https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/northern-virginia/prince-william-county-admits-election-tally-in-2020-shorted-joe-biden/3514995/

    If this was reversed, MAGA would be going crazy and trying to legitimize their stolen election claims.
    You're right about that.  This line in the NBC article was nice, "Prosecutors from the office of Republican Attorney General Jason Miyares dropped the charges against White with little explanation, and court records lacked details on the alleged misconduct."
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,586
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,908
    edited January 17
    Dana Bash is committing journalist malpractice right there. HOW DO YOU NOT TELL HER HE WAS FOUND LIABLE OF ASSUALT BY A JURY OF HIS PEERS?!?!?! 

    Come. The. Fuck. On.

    We are nine years into this debacle and the press still does not know how to cover this guy. 


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  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,449
    Dana Bash is committing journalist malpractice right there. HOW DO YOU NOT TELL HER HE WAS FOUND LIABLE OF ASSUALT BY A JURY OF HIS PEERS?!?!?! 

    Come. The. Fuck. On.

    We are nine years into this debacle and the press still does not know how to cover this guy. 


    Agreed… the press (and willfully ignorant conservatives) are both sidesing us right into a dictatorship. 
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,908
    Dana Bash is committing journalist malpractice right there. HOW DO YOU NOT TELL HER HE WAS FOUND LIABLE OF ASSUALT BY A JURY OF HIS PEERS?!?!?! 

    Come. The. Fuck. On.

    We are nine years into this debacle and the press still does not know how to cover this guy. 


    Agreed… the press (and willfully ignorant conservatives) are both sidesing us right into a dictatorship. 
    Yeah.

    And you know what? I still the fact that he ran a fraudulent university and charity should be talked about too. lol. For literally anyone else, they'd be disqualifying. 
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  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,449
    edited January 17
    Dana Bash is committing journalist malpractice right there. HOW DO YOU NOT TELL HER HE WAS FOUND LIABLE OF ASSUALT BY A JURY OF HIS PEERS?!?!?! 

    Come. The. Fuck. On.

    We are nine years into this debacle and the press still does not know how to cover this guy. 


    Agreed… the press (and willfully ignorant conservatives) are both sidesing us right into a dictatorship. 
    Yeah.

    And you know what? I still the fact that he ran a fraudulent university and charity should be talked about too. lol. For literally anyone else, they'd be disqualifying. 
    Those should have been disqualifying 8 years ago. 
    The insurrection, being found liable for rape, the big lie, literally stealing and mishandling classified information, preventing the 1st peaceful transfer of power, the extortion of Ukraine for which he was first impeached, his handling of the pandemic, among so many other incidents I’m sure I’m forgetting should be disqualifying now. 
    The NYT can end all the think pieces trying to understand the rationale of the trump voter…. I think we all understand well enough what they want: a dictator who’ll punish the people they don’t like.
    People can fuck off with their “both sides” bullshit. 
    There’s no democrat equivalent to the above. 
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,020
    Dana Bash is committing journalist malpractice right there. HOW DO YOU NOT TELL HER HE WAS FOUND LIABLE OF ASSUALT BY A JURY OF HIS PEERS?!?!?! 

    Come. The. Fuck. On.

    We are nine years into this debacle and the press still does not know how to cover this guy. 


    Agreed… the press (and willfully ignorant conservatives) are both sidesing us right into a dictatorship. 
    Yeah.

    And you know what? I still the fact that he ran a fraudulent university and charity should be talked about too. lol. For literally anyone else, they'd be disqualifying. 
    Those should have been disqualifying 8 years ago. 
    The insurrection, being found liable for rape, the big lie, literally stealing and mishandling classified information, preventing the 1st peaceful transfer of power, the extortion of Ukraine for which he was first impeached, his handling of the pandemic, among so many other incidents I’m sure I’m forgetting should be disqualifying now. 
    The NYT can end all the think pieces trying to understand the rationale of the trump voter…. I think we all understand well enough what they want: a dictator who’ll punish the people they don’t like.
    People can fuck off with their “both sides” bullshit. 
    There’s no democrat equivalent to the above. 
    But have you heard about Hunter’s laptop??
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,675
    Dana Bash is committing journalist malpractice right there. HOW DO YOU NOT TELL HER HE WAS FOUND LIABLE OF ASSUALT BY A JURY OF HIS PEERS?!?!?! 

    Come. The. Fuck. On.

    We are nine years into this debacle and the press still does not know how to cover this guy. 


    I don't understand your point.  She did tell him that. 

    And Steele is wrong.  "Guilty" is a criminal conviction,  not civil.  
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,525
    mrussel1 said:
    Dana Bash is committing journalist malpractice right there. HOW DO YOU NOT TELL HER HE WAS FOUND LIABLE OF ASSUALT BY A JURY OF HIS PEERS?!?!?! 

    Come. The. Fuck. On.

    We are nine years into this debacle and the press still does not know how to cover this guy. 


    I don't understand your point.  She did tell him that. 

    And Steele is wrong.  "Guilty" is a criminal conviction,  not civil.  
    So he’s not guilty of sexual assault? 
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,675
    mrussel1 said:
    Dana Bash is committing journalist malpractice right there. HOW DO YOU NOT TELL HER HE WAS FOUND LIABLE OF ASSUALT BY A JURY OF HIS PEERS?!?!?! 

    Come. The. Fuck. On.

    We are nine years into this debacle and the press still does not know how to cover this guy. 


    I don't understand your point.  She did tell him that. 

    And Steele is wrong.  "Guilty" is a criminal conviction,  not civil.  
    So he’s not guilty of sexual assault? 
    No,  not in the legal sense.  The burden of proof is different civilly and criminally so the designation is different. He was found liable for defaming her.  
  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,449
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Dana Bash is committing journalist malpractice right there. HOW DO YOU NOT TELL HER HE WAS FOUND LIABLE OF ASSUALT BY A JURY OF HIS PEERS?!?!?! 

    Come. The. Fuck. On.

    We are nine years into this debacle and the press still does not know how to cover this guy. 


    I don't understand your point.  She did tell him that. 

    And Steele is wrong.  "Guilty" is a criminal conviction,  not civil.  
    So he’s not guilty of sexual assault? 
    No,  not in the legal sense.  The burden of proof is different civilly and criminally so the designation is different. He was found liable for defaming her.  
    I was under the impression he was found liable for both sexual assault and defaming her. 
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,675
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Dana Bash is committing journalist malpractice right there. HOW DO YOU NOT TELL HER HE WAS FOUND LIABLE OF ASSUALT BY A JURY OF HIS PEERS?!?!?! 

    Come. The. Fuck. On.

    We are nine years into this debacle and the press still does not know how to cover this guy. 


    I don't understand your point.  She did tell him that. 

    And Steele is wrong.  "Guilty" is a criminal conviction,  not civil.  
    So he’s not guilty of sexual assault? 
    No,  not in the legal sense.  The burden of proof is different civilly and criminally so the designation is different. He was found liable for defaming her.  
    I was under the impression he was found liable for both sexual assault and defaming her. 
    I think the judge concluded that he more likely than not assaulted her,  but I was more focused on the "Guilty" charge.  He wasn't guilty. 
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,525
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Dana Bash is committing journalist malpractice right there. HOW DO YOU NOT TELL HER HE WAS FOUND LIABLE OF ASSUALT BY A JURY OF HIS PEERS?!?!?! 

    Come. The. Fuck. On.

    We are nine years into this debacle and the press still does not know how to cover this guy. 


    I don't understand your point.  She did tell him that. 

    And Steele is wrong.  "Guilty" is a criminal conviction,  not civil.  
    So he’s not guilty of sexual assault? 
    No,  not in the legal sense.  The burden of proof is different civilly and criminally so the designation is different. He was found liable for defaming her.  
    I was under the impression he was found liable for both sexual assault and defaming her. 
    I think the judge concluded that he more likely than not assaulted her,  but I was more focused on the "Guilty" charge.  He wasn't guilty. 
    Got it!
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  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,449
    edited January 17
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Dana Bash is committing journalist malpractice right there. HOW DO YOU NOT TELL HER HE WAS FOUND LIABLE OF ASSUALT BY A JURY OF HIS PEERS?!?!?! 

    Come. The. Fuck. On.

    We are nine years into this debacle and the press still does not know how to cover this guy. 


    I don't understand your point.  She did tell him that. 

    And Steele is wrong.  "Guilty" is a criminal conviction,  not civil.  
    So he’s not guilty of sexual assault? 
    No,  not in the legal sense.  The burden of proof is different civilly and criminally so the designation is different. He was found liable for defaming her.  
    I was under the impression he was found liable for both sexual assault and defaming her. 
    I think the judge concluded that he more likely than not assaulted her,  but I was more focused on the "Guilty" charge.  He wasn't guilty. 
    I hear you on the guilty / liable distinction. For posterities sake:
    “NEW YORK (AP) — A jury found Donald Trump liable Tuesday for sexually abusing advice columnist E. Jean Carroll in 1996, awarding her $5 million in a judgment that could haunt the former president as he campaigns to regain the White House.”
    https://apnews.com/article/trump-rape-carroll-trial-fe68259a4b98bb3947d42af9ec83d7db
    AP did get it wrong when they suggested this might haunt him though… His base loves this shit. 
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,525
    mrussel1 said:l
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Dana Bash is committing journalist malpractice right there. HOW DO YOU NOT TELL HER HE WAS FOUND LIABLE OF ASSUALT BY A JURY OF HIS PEERS?!?!?! 

    Come. The. Fuck. On.

    We are nine years into this debacle and the press still does not know how to cover this guy. 


    I don't understand your point.  She did tell him that. 

    And Steele is wrong.  "Guilty" is a criminal conviction,  not civil.  
    So he’s not guilty of sexual assault? 
    No,  not in the legal sense.  The burden of proof is different civilly and criminally so the designation is different. He was found liable for defaming her.  
    I was under the impression he was found liable for both sexual assault and defaming her. 
    I think the judge concluded that he more likely than not assaulted her,  but I was more focused on the "Guilty" charge.  He wasn't guilty. 
    I hear you on the guilty / liable distinction. For posterities sake:
    “NEW YORK (AP) — A jury found Donald Trump liable Tuesday for sexually abusing advice columnist E. Jean Carroll in 1996, awarding her $5 million in a judgment that could haunt the former president as he campaigns to regain the White House.”
    https://apnews.com/article/trump-rape-carroll-trial-fe68259a4b98bb3947d42af9ec83d7db
    AP did get it wrong when they suggested this might haunt him though… His base loves this shit. 
    If he advertised that he’d be holding a grab them by the p$&&/ event his cultist women would line up and pay him to do it! 
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  • OnWis97OnWis97 Posts: 5,140
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Dana Bash is committing journalist malpractice right there. HOW DO YOU NOT TELL HER HE WAS FOUND LIABLE OF ASSUALT BY A JURY OF HIS PEERS?!?!?! 

    Come. The. Fuck. On.

    We are nine years into this debacle and the press still does not know how to cover this guy. 


    I don't understand your point.  She did tell him that. 

    And Steele is wrong.  "Guilty" is a criminal conviction,  not civil.  
    So he’s not guilty of sexual assault? 
    No,  not in the legal sense.  The burden of proof is different civilly and criminally so the designation is different. He was found liable for defaming her.  
    I was under the impression he was found liable for both sexual assault and defaming her. 
    I think the judge concluded that he more likely than not assaulted her,  but I was more focused on the "Guilty" charge.  He wasn't guilty. 
    I hear you on the guilty / liable distinction. For posterities sake:
    “NEW YORK (AP) — A jury found Donald Trump liable Tuesday for sexually abusing advice columnist E. Jean Carroll in 1996, awarding her $5 million in a judgment that could haunt the former president as he campaigns to regain the White House.”
    https://apnews.com/article/trump-rape-carroll-trial-fe68259a4b98bb3947d42af9ec83d7db
    AP did get it wrong when they suggested this might haunt him though… His base loves this shit. 
    What a terrible headline. There's no way it will haunt him.
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,586
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Dana Bash is committing journalist malpractice right there. HOW DO YOU NOT TELL HER HE WAS FOUND LIABLE OF ASSUALT BY A JURY OF HIS PEERS?!?!?! 

    Come. The. Fuck. On.

    We are nine years into this debacle and the press still does not know how to cover this guy. 


    I don't understand your point.  She did tell him that. 

    And Steele is wrong.  "Guilty" is a criminal conviction,  not civil.  
    So he’s not guilty of sexual assault? 
    No,  not in the legal sense.  The burden of proof is different civilly and criminally so the designation is different. He was found liable for defaming her.  
    I was under the impression he was found liable for both sexual assault and defaming her. 
    I think the judge concluded that he more likely than not assaulted her,  but I was more focused on the "Guilty" charge.  He wasn't guilty. 
    I hear you on the guilty / liable distinction. For posterities sake:
    “NEW YORK (AP) — A jury found Donald Trump liable Tuesday for sexually abusing advice columnist E. Jean Carroll in 1996, awarding her $5 million in a judgment that could haunt the former president as he campaigns to regain the White House.”
    https://apnews.com/article/trump-rape-carroll-trial-fe68259a4b98bb3947d42af9ec83d7db
    AP did get it wrong when they suggested this might haunt him though… His base loves this shit. 

    idk about that. it will haunt his wallet with EJC 1. THIS is the defamation trial. same expert that took it to rudy in his trial. Kaplans statements to the jury, reiterated he raped her
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 Posts: 23,303
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    mickeyrat said:
    was she really going to say what she feels and risk a trump truth post about her? what a coward. she is running against him. use that stuff against him.

    she isn't cut out for this. it makes her, along with everyone besides christie, look spineless. 
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • mickeyrat said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Dana Bash is committing journalist malpractice right there. HOW DO YOU NOT TELL HER HE WAS FOUND LIABLE OF ASSUALT BY A JURY OF HIS PEERS?!?!?! 

    Come. The. Fuck. On.

    We are nine years into this debacle and the press still does not know how to cover this guy. 


    I don't understand your point.  She did tell him that. 

    And Steele is wrong.  "Guilty" is a criminal conviction,  not civil.  
    So he’s not guilty of sexual assault? 
    No,  not in the legal sense.  The burden of proof is different civilly and criminally so the designation is different. He was found liable for defaming her.  
    I was under the impression he was found liable for both sexual assault and defaming her. 
    I think the judge concluded that he more likely than not assaulted her,  but I was more focused on the "Guilty" charge.  He wasn't guilty. 
    I hear you on the guilty / liable distinction. For posterities sake:
    “NEW YORK (AP) — A jury found Donald Trump liable Tuesday for sexually abusing advice columnist E. Jean Carroll in 1996, awarding her $5 million in a judgment that could haunt the former president as he campaigns to regain the White House.”
    https://apnews.com/article/trump-rape-carroll-trial-fe68259a4b98bb3947d42af9ec83d7db
    AP did get it wrong when they suggested this might haunt him though… His base loves this shit. 

    idk about that. it will haunt his wallet with EJC 1. THIS is the defamation trial. same expert that took it to rudy in his trial. Kaplans statements to the jury, reiterated he raped her
    dude is defaming her on truth while IN THE SAME COURTROOM with her. any jury would award her 500 million because the motherfucker will not learn. his mom must have dropped him on his head a few times as a baby.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
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