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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 43,119
    The second bullet should give everyone pause.


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  • stuckinline
    stuckinline Posts: 3,407
    There are probably a few 'fun' discussions in these families:

    Rep. Kevin McCarthy’s allies have gone to extraordinary lengths to help lock up the speakership — which, in some cases, has involved great personal sacrifice. 

    Republican Rep. Wesley Hunt just had a baby a few days ago who had to spend some time in the NICU. He flew back to Texas to be with his wife and newborn but is now expected to return to Washington later today, according to McCarthy. 

    Republican Rep. Ken Buck, meanwhile, flew back to Colorado yesterday for a pre-planned medical procedure and is also coming back to Washington. 

    Sources also tell CNN that GOP Rep. Kevin Hern is willing to stay in Washington over the weekend if there are votes and he is needed. He was initially planning to be out of town this weekend for his mother’s funeral. 

    Meanwhile, across the aisle, there has also been all out effort to stop McCarthy. Democratic Rep. David Trone had shoulder surgery Friday morning and came to the Capitol after in hospital slippers. 

    It all shows how the once-in-a-century speaker fight has taken a personal toll on members. 

    https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/house-speaker-leadership-vote-01-06-23/index.html

  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,980
    edited January 2023
    https://thehill.com/homenews/house/3802775-what-mccarthy-has-offered-his-gop-opponents-and-whats-under-discussion/

    Here are the concessions.  ONE member can call for a no confidence vote, down from 5.  That is crazy.  What's going to happen is as soon as a debt ceiling vote passes (if it passes) with democratic support, some psycho is going to call for it and then we're right back here and the House grinds to a halt.  That's unsustainable gov't.  

    The other option is that the ceiling doesn't get raised and the market crashes.  This is going to get really ugly, very quickly. 
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,864
    mrussel1 said:
    static111 said:
    If Dems bail them out McCarthy will not stick to any promises.  That would be the stupidest thing they could do, opening the door for impeachment and Huter's lap top...and who knows what other hijinks.  Let the Rs sort out their own mess.
    If he did not follow his promises, then the D's could call for a new House speaker and start all over again.  Remember that's a concession already extracted, moving the number to five members vs a majority for a no confidence type of vote.  The D's would absolutely protect themselves that way. 
    but the dems would have to win a vote of a majority to actually unseat the speaker under the agreed upon concession. don't see that happening.
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    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,980
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    static111 said:
    If Dems bail them out McCarthy will not stick to any promises.  That would be the stupidest thing they could do, opening the door for impeachment and Huter's lap top...and who knows what other hijinks.  Let the Rs sort out their own mess.
    If he did not follow his promises, then the D's could call for a new House speaker and start all over again.  Remember that's a concession already extracted, moving the number to five members vs a majority for a no confidence type of vote.  The D's would absolutely protect themselves that way. 
    but the dems would have to win a vote of a majority to actually unseat the speaker under the agreed upon concession. don't see that happening.
    It could happen if their votes were required to seat the Speaker to start.  In theory, the Insurrection Caucus wouldn't come back to McCarthy.  Seems like a moot point though, and he only needs a few more votes. 
  • jpgoegel
    jpgoegel Posts: 415
    mrussel1 said:
    https://thehill.com/homenews/house/3802775-what-mccarthy-has-offered-his-gop-opponents-and-whats-under-discussion/

    Here are the concessions.  ONE member can call for a no confidence vote, down from 5.  That is crazy.  What's going to happen is as soon as a debt ceiling vote passes (if it passes) with democratic support, some psycho is going to call for it and then we're right back here and the House grinds to a halt.  That's unsustainable gov't.  

    The other option is that the ceiling doesn't get raised and the market crashes.  This is going to get really ugly, very quickly. 
    granted the times were different, but that one vote has existed before.  it would be interesting to find out how often it was used/attempted before.   according to the news it was set back to five by Nancy Pelosi, so with the D/R at each other's throats for a good 20 years you'd think it would have been tried recently.
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 45,209
    fucked again.....
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 43,119
    What a lame tailpipe of a party. Wow, Kevin! How do you celebrate?
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,777
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    What a lame tailpipe of a party. Wow, Kevin! How do you celebrate?

    Maybe he could start by moving to a red state.  Would not hurt my feelings, lol
    The GOP doesn't seem to know up from down any more.  How do they survive?
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 8,388
    brianlux said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    What a lame tailpipe of a party. Wow, Kevin! How do you celebrate?

    Maybe he could start by moving to a red state.  Would not hurt my feelings, lol
    The GOP doesn't seem to know up from down any more.  How do they survive?

    Hey bri, welcome back to amt, and congrats on being from the same state as the Speaker, again! Time to amend the Constitution, the Speaker must be from Cal!
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 43,119

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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 32,090
    Halifax2TheMax said:

    lol yeah I’m sure the 113th congress will accomplish so much! 
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  • nicknyr15
    nicknyr15 Posts: 9,437
    Halifax2TheMax said:

    I don’t know who that gentleman with incredible hair is but I wish he’d crack Matt Gaetz in the face. Good for him. 
  • Hobbes
    Hobbes Pacific Northwest Posts: 6,438
    Ds chant, "Hakeem, Hakeem, Hakeem..."

    Rs chant, "Jerry, Jerry, Jerry..."
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 32,090
    Hobbes said:
    Ds chant, "Hakeem, Hakeem, Hakeem..."

    Rs chant, "Jerry, Jerry, Jerry..."
    Hobbes said:
    Ds chant, "Hakeem, Hakeem, Hakeem..."

    Rs chant, "Jerry, Jerry, Jerry..."
    Who’s Jerry? Garcia? lol 
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 43,119
    That fella just a little too excited, I reckon.
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,864
    Halifax2TheMax said:

    gotta have a little respect for a man that was ready to tussle wearing that thing on his head.
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  • Hobbes
    Hobbes Pacific Northwest Posts: 6,438
    Harlots, hairpieces, and homophobia...

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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,864
    Hobbes said:
    Harlots, hairpieces, and homophobia...

    George Takei Oh My GIF - GeorgeTakei OhMy Wink - Discover Share GIFs
    now THIS is the kinda shade i am here for.
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    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
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