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    Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom's Posts: 17,969
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)

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    gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 22,161
    i saw desantis declared wokeness dead. good, because nobody in the gop can even define it.
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    OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 4,824
    i saw desantis declared wokeness dead. good, because nobody in the gop can even define it.
    That seems like an odd thing for him to say. Doesn't wokeness being dead pretty much render him useless?
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    static111static111 Posts: 4,889
    Everyone I talk to. And they're all regular Americans. LOL
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    Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 8,631
    OnWis97 said:
    i saw desantis declared wokeness dead. good, because nobody in the gop can even define it.
    That seems like an odd thing for him to say. Doesn't wokeness being dead pretty much render him useless?
    He’ll fabricate another non-existent “threat”, then defeat the threat. It’ll be a never ending succession of victories. 
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    Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom's Posts: 17,969
    OnWis97 said:
    i saw desantis declared wokeness dead. good, because nobody in the gop can even define it.
    That seems like an odd thing for him to say. Doesn't wokeness being dead pretty much render him useless?
    He’ll fabricate another non-existent “threat”, then defeat the threat. It’ll be a never ending succession of victories. 
    We haven't had a good caravan for awhile. Maybe there will be a caravan of woke trans Mexicans with Covid that we can fear soon.
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    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
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    OnWis97 said:
    i saw desantis declared wokeness dead. good, because nobody in the gop can even define it.
    That seems like an odd thing for him to say. Doesn't wokeness being dead pretty much render him useless?
    He’ll fabricate another non-existent “threat”, then defeat the threat. It’ll be a never ending succession of victories. 
    Deathsantis is all bluster but no wind. Well, hot air, I guess. He withdrew or isn't following through on his cancellation of that woke corporation's, Disney, tax exemption. Create the kerfluffle, act all faux outraged, threaten, bully and intimidate, and then move on to the next self-created kerfluffle and/or faux outrage. Its quite the schtick and it'll play well nationally and internationally. He's even got the hand gestures and arm waving down.
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    Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom's Posts: 17,969
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Chicago; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
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    mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 35,798
    you know when a tractor trailer incident occurs, soil remediation is always a step in accident response. from fuel spilling from fuel tanks to HM freight spills.

    the difference here is trucking companies dont own the roads(despite how some drivers think!) the state is in charge and rail companies own their tracks and have the easements.....

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    static111 said:
    Everyone I talk to. And they're all regular Americans. LOL
    It's birds of a feather with her.  My crazy republican family members have been touting this stance for a while that a civil war is coming.
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,632
    static111 said:
    Everyone I talk to. And they're all regular Americans. LOL
    It's birds of a feather with her.  My crazy republican family members have been touting this stance for a while that a civil war is coming.
    Because that's the fear narrative in the echo chamber.  Now which of these Rascal riding seniors is going to start the war?  Not a one of them.  
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    Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom's Posts: 17,969
    Civil war and end times. I'm seeing that a lot on FB. Whenever a democrat is in the White House Jesus is just chomping at the bit to come back and annihilate us. 
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)

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    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Chicago; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
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    mrussel1 said:
    static111 said:
    Everyone I talk to. And they're all regular Americans. LOL
    It's birds of a feather with her.  My crazy republican family members have been touting this stance for a while that a civil war is coming.
    Because that's the fear narrative in the echo chamber.  Now which of these Rascal riding seniors is going to start the war?  Not a one of them.  
    Definitely fear mongering but when you have people storming the Capital(s), governor's homes and taking out the substations, there are people whom are trying their very best. 
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,632
    mrussel1 said:
    static111 said:
    Everyone I talk to. And they're all regular Americans. LOL
    It's birds of a feather with her.  My crazy republican family members have been touting this stance for a while that a civil war is coming.
    Because that's the fear narrative in the echo chamber.  Now which of these Rascal riding seniors is going to start the war?  Not a one of them.  
    Definitely fear mongering but when you have people storming the Capital(s), governor's homes and taking out the substations, there are people whom are trying their very best. 
    Agreed on J6.  I think that was the organized militias chance to try something, they did, and they are paying for it.  I think the reaction of the media, the justice dept et all will server as a deterrent for anything public and open in the future.  The substation stuff just comes off as petty terrorism rather than something that starts a Civil War because the effects are indiscriminate.  
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    cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,109
    The party of family values calling for a national divorce is a national disgrace.  Lots of hypocrites in the bunch.
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    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    static111 said:
    Everyone I talk to. And they're all regular Americans. LOL
    It's birds of a feather with her.  My crazy republican family members have been touting this stance for a while that a civil war is coming.
    Because that's the fear narrative in the echo chamber.  Now which of these Rascal riding seniors is going to start the war?  Not a one of them.  
    Definitely fear mongering but when you have people storming the Capital(s), governor's homes and taking out the substations, there are people whom are trying their very best. 
    Agreed on J6.  I think that was the organized militias chance to try something, they did, and they are paying for it.  I think the reaction of the media, the justice dept et all will server as a deterrent for anything public and open in the future.  The substation stuff just comes off as petty terrorism rather than something that starts a Civil War because the effects are indiscriminate.  
    I'll disagree on the substations.  The people whom wanted to take out Baltimore's power had a serious agenda.

    I feel that the militias will have to reorganize better if they want to succeed.  When everywhere they post using messages is monitored they might think(hopefully) twice about doing stupid shit in the future.  
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    ParksyParksy Posts: 1,676
    This may seem like a silly question.. but with MTG's remarks on Dooshbag Carlson's show... 

    What does the GOP stand to gain by basically siding with Putin and acting like the dude didn't invade a country? And to be clear, when the leadership of the GOP does not immediately condemn what is being said .. that's what allows me in my opinion to lump the whole party together. 

    Is this just another case of 'We need to be against whatever it is our enemy (Biden and the Dems) are for?'  
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    Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom's Posts: 17,969
    Parksy said:
    This may seem like a silly question.. but with MTG's remarks on Dooshbag Carlson's show... 

    What does the GOP stand to gain by basically siding with Putin and acting like the dude didn't invade a country? And to be clear, when the leadership of the GOP does not immediately condemn what is being said .. that's what allows me in my opinion to lump the whole party together. 

    Is this just another case of 'We need to be against whatever it is our enemy (Biden and the Dems) are for?'  
    I think it is. The attacks against our support are bizarre. MTG is now introducing a bill to audit the Ukraine funds....not necessarily a horrible idea but shouldn't that be more of a committee hearing? Why introduce a bill that has no chance of passing?


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    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Chicago; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
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    OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 4,824
    Parksy said:
    This may seem like a silly question.. but with MTG's remarks on Dooshbag Carlson's show... 

    What does the GOP stand to gain by basically siding with Putin and acting like the dude didn't invade a country? And to be clear, when the leadership of the GOP does not immediately condemn what is being said .. that's what allows me in my opinion to lump the whole party together. 

    Is this just another case of 'We need to be against whatever it is our enemy (Biden and the Dems) are for?'  
    This is pretty much their entire persona. How often to you hear a republican actually say anything that would indicate they care about what happens to the country or its people? It's all outrage and vilification of domestic enemies. And the few that challenge it get run out of the party.
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    Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 8,631
    Parksy said:
    This may seem like a silly question.. but with MTG's remarks on Dooshbag Carlson's show... 

    What does the GOP stand to gain by basically siding with Putin and acting like the dude didn't invade a country? And to be clear, when the leadership of the GOP does not immediately condemn what is being said .. that's what allows me in my opinion to lump the whole party together. 

    Is this just another case of 'We need to be against whatever it is our enemy (Biden and the Dems) are for?'  
    Trump revealed the the republican party wants a corrupt autocracy, which is what Russia is. This reveals itself with policies dressed up as something else to make them more appealing. In this case they are framing wanting to cut off financial support to Ukraine as being fiscally responsible. They’ll support right wing fascist groups in the US by claiming they’re the party of free speech
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    Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom's Posts: 17,969
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Chicago; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
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    Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 8,631
    I suppose head to head shows that magas will maga no matter who else is running, but in reality there’s going to be 8-10 candidates in the mix that will take away from DeSantis. 
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,632
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    static111 said:
    Everyone I talk to. And they're all regular Americans. LOL
    It's birds of a feather with her.  My crazy republican family members have been touting this stance for a while that a civil war is coming.
    Because that's the fear narrative in the echo chamber.  Now which of these Rascal riding seniors is going to start the war?  Not a one of them.  
    Definitely fear mongering but when you have people storming the Capital(s), governor's homes and taking out the substations, there are people whom are trying their very best. 
    Agreed on J6.  I think that was the organized militias chance to try something, they did, and they are paying for it.  I think the reaction of the media, the justice dept et all will server as a deterrent for anything public and open in the future.  The substation stuff just comes off as petty terrorism rather than something that starts a Civil War because the effects are indiscriminate.  
    I'll disagree on the substations.  The people whom wanted to take out Baltimore's power had a serious agenda.

    I feel that the militias will have to reorganize better if they want to succeed.  When everywhere they post using messages is monitored they might think(hopefully) twice about doing stupid shit in the future.  
    My point was that the terrorism is indiscriminate and not effective for "revolution" because you negatively impact a part of the population that you need to "rise up".  
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    gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 22,161
    Parksy said:
    This may seem like a silly question.. but with MTG's remarks on Dooshbag Carlson's show... 

    What does the GOP stand to gain by basically siding with Putin and acting like the dude didn't invade a country? And to be clear, when the leadership of the GOP does not immediately condemn what is being said .. that's what allows me in my opinion to lump the whole party together. 

    Is this just another case of 'We need to be against whatever it is our enemy (Biden and the Dems) are for?'  
    Trump revealed the the republican party wants a corrupt autocracy, which is what Russia is. This reveals itself with policies dressed up as something else to make them more appealing. In this case they are framing wanting to cut off financial support to Ukraine as being fiscally responsible. They’ll support right wing fascist groups in the US by claiming they’re the party of free speech
    also they hold orban in high regard, so that is just another example to add to the fact that gop wants a strong willed government daddy instead of the individual freedumb they have been going on about for decades.
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,632
    Parksy said:
    This may seem like a silly question.. but with MTG's remarks on Dooshbag Carlson's show... 

    What does the GOP stand to gain by basically siding with Putin and acting like the dude didn't invade a country? And to be clear, when the leadership of the GOP does not immediately condemn what is being said .. that's what allows me in my opinion to lump the whole party together. 

    Is this just another case of 'We need to be against whatever it is our enemy (Biden and the Dems) are for?'  
    Trump revealed the the republican party wants a corrupt autocracy, which is what Russia is. This reveals itself with policies dressed up as something else to make them more appealing. In this case they are framing wanting to cut off financial support to Ukraine as being fiscally responsible. They’ll support right wing fascist groups in the US by claiming they’re the party of free speech
    also they hold orban in high regard, so that is just another example to add to the fact that gop wants a strong willed government daddy instead of the individual freedumb they have been going on about for decades.
    People don't realize how dangerous Orban is.  He would leave the EU tomorrow if he wasn't worried about it killing his support in Hungary.  

    What I worry about is if Ukraine falls,  then Moldova goes immediately.  Then Hungary could exit the EU and join Russia.  Then Serbia will 100% move against Kosova and now the Balkans are destabilized and you have a unified East.  Next is Belarus and Russia going back after the Baltic states.  

    You want to worry about WW3, that's how it happens.  
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    OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 4,824
    Parksy said:
    This may seem like a silly question.. but with MTG's remarks on Dooshbag Carlson's show... 

    What does the GOP stand to gain by basically siding with Putin and acting like the dude didn't invade a country? And to be clear, when the leadership of the GOP does not immediately condemn what is being said .. that's what allows me in my opinion to lump the whole party together. 

    Is this just another case of 'We need to be against whatever it is our enemy (Biden and the Dems) are for?'  
    Trump revealed the the republican party wants a corrupt autocracy, which is what Russia is. This reveals itself with policies dressed up as something else to make them more appealing. In this case they are framing wanting to cut off financial support to Ukraine as being fiscally responsible. They’ll support right wing fascist groups in the US by claiming they’re the party of free speech
    also they hold orban in high regard, so that is just another example to add to the fact that gop wants a strong willed government daddy instead of the individual freedumb they have been going on about for decades.
    Just another example of misunderstood buzzwords. "Freedom." LOL. They thirst for authoritarianism. Hungary may very well be the model...
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    gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 22,161
    mrussel1 said:
    Parksy said:
    This may seem like a silly question.. but with MTG's remarks on Dooshbag Carlson's show... 

    What does the GOP stand to gain by basically siding with Putin and acting like the dude didn't invade a country? And to be clear, when the leadership of the GOP does not immediately condemn what is being said .. that's what allows me in my opinion to lump the whole party together. 

    Is this just another case of 'We need to be against whatever it is our enemy (Biden and the Dems) are for?'  
    Trump revealed the the republican party wants a corrupt autocracy, which is what Russia is. This reveals itself with policies dressed up as something else to make them more appealing. In this case they are framing wanting to cut off financial support to Ukraine as being fiscally responsible. They’ll support right wing fascist groups in the US by claiming they’re the party of free speech
    also they hold orban in high regard, so that is just another example to add to the fact that gop wants a strong willed government daddy instead of the individual freedumb they have been going on about for decades.
    People don't realize how dangerous Orban is.  He would leave the EU tomorrow if he wasn't worried about it killing his support in Hungary.  

    What I worry about is if Ukraine falls,  then Moldova goes immediately.  Then Hungary could exit the EU and join Russia.  Then Serbia will 100% move against Kosova and now the Balkans are destabilized and you have a unified East.  Next is Belarus and Russia going back after the Baltic states.  

    You want to worry about WW3, that's how it happens.  
    you would think someone could explain this to these republicans, but it is actually what they want.
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,632
    mrussel1 said:
    Parksy said:
    This may seem like a silly question.. but with MTG's remarks on Dooshbag Carlson's show... 

    What does the GOP stand to gain by basically siding with Putin and acting like the dude didn't invade a country? And to be clear, when the leadership of the GOP does not immediately condemn what is being said .. that's what allows me in my opinion to lump the whole party together. 

    Is this just another case of 'We need to be against whatever it is our enemy (Biden and the Dems) are for?'  
    Trump revealed the the republican party wants a corrupt autocracy, which is what Russia is. This reveals itself with policies dressed up as something else to make them more appealing. In this case they are framing wanting to cut off financial support to Ukraine as being fiscally responsible. They’ll support right wing fascist groups in the US by claiming they’re the party of free speech
    also they hold orban in high regard, so that is just another example to add to the fact that gop wants a strong willed government daddy instead of the individual freedumb they have been going on about for decades.
    People don't realize how dangerous Orban is.  He would leave the EU tomorrow if he wasn't worried about it killing his support in Hungary.  

    What I worry about is if Ukraine falls,  then Moldova goes immediately.  Then Hungary could exit the EU and join Russia.  Then Serbia will 100% move against Kosova and now the Balkans are destabilized and you have a unified East.  Next is Belarus and Russia going back after the Baltic states.  

    You want to worry about WW3, that's how it happens.  
    you would think someone could explain this to these republicans, but it is actually what they want.
    I don't know if they do or not.  But I do know that the MAGA crowd has zero understanding of the history of Europe.  Stupidity is the coin of the realm. 
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    mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 35,798
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    Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom's Posts: 17,969
    Those four idiots...unreal
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Chicago; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
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