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    Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 8,656


    Just a few miles from me....I should go say hi


    Only if it’s “consensual“ mmmm
    Is mother present or is it all male FBI agents?
    They’re gonna find Mike’s box of kink. 
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    gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 22,175


    Just a few miles from me....I should go say hi


    Only if it’s “consensual“ mmmm
    Is mother present or is it all male FBI agents?
    They’re gonna find Mike’s box of kink. 
    i bet it contains at least one of the following:

    1. bible
    2. whip used for self flagellation
    3. underwear pictures of mother
    4. bible signed by trump
    5. dead fly stuck to fly paper from the night he debated harris
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    And speaking of the POOTWH campaign and its manager, truly deplorable.

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    Does their hypocrisy know no bounds?

    DeSantis wanted to ban guns at event, but not to be blamed, emails show 

    As Gov. Ron DeSantis prepared for an election night party in downtown Tampa last year, city officials received a surprising — and politically sensitive — request.

    The Republican governor’s campaign wanted weapons banned from his victory celebration at the city-run Tampa Convention Center, a city official said in emails obtained by The Washington Post.And the campaign suggested that the city take responsibility for the firearms ban, the official said — not the governor, who has been a vocal supporter of gun rights.

    “DeSantis/his campaign will not tell their attendees they are not permitted to carry because of the political optics,” Chase Finch, the convention center’s safety and security manager, said in an Oct. 28 email to other city officials about the request, which was conveyed by the Florida Department of Law Enforcement (FDLE), a state police agency led by a DeSantis appointee.

    Finch further explained that because of “Republicans largely being in support of 2A,” referring to the Second Amendment, “Basically it sounds like they want us to say it’s our policy to disallow firearms within the event space if anyone asks.”

    In a statement sent after this story published, FDLE said the agency determines on its own whether to prohibit weapons at events. “FDLE did not request the venue restrict weapons at the direction of the Governor or campaign. Security decisions are made by FDLE,” agency spokeswoman Gretl Plessinger said.

    Tampa Convention Center officials ultimately rejected the request to ban weapons. State law allows concealed firearms to be brought inside the public facility unless the renter insists on a gun-free event. On election night, the campaign did require guests to pass through metal detectors, Finch said.

    Continues……

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/02/10/desantis-campaign-emails-gun-free-event/

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    mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 35,871
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    OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 4,829
    Child marriage is surprisingly common in the US.  Not just red states, either.

    I don't want to hear about "groomers" from people that think 15 year old girls should be marrying 30 year old men.
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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,315
    I hope the magas survived all the wokeness at the Super Bowl yesterday. 
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    mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 35,871
    I hope the magas survived all the wokeness at the Super Bowl yesterday. 

    I know. Gasp, a Black QB won..
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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,315
    mickeyrat said:
    I hope the magas survived all the wokeness at the Super Bowl yesterday. 

    I know. Gasp, a Black QB won..
    It also seems like their NFL boycott has ended.
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    DewieCoxDewieCox Posts: 11,412
    No, didn’t you hear? They most definitely didn’t watch (insert exact chain of events that wouldbarely be more accurate if they read it from a script)
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,677
    mickeyrat said:
    I hope the magas survived all the wokeness at the Super Bowl yesterday. 

    I know. Gasp, a Black QB won..
    It also seems like their NFL boycott has ended.
    There was some opinion article on Fox that was going on about how Mahomes and Hurts are religious so i'ts not woke football.  As if someone can't be for Jesus and BLM.  I guess this is how they are going to rationalize ending that oh so effective boycott.  NFL is bigger than ever.  Total nonsense.

    https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/super-bowl-qbs-mahomes-hurts-embrace-faith-nfl-kneels-god-not-wokeness


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    gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 22,175
    i saw a few tweeters that will never ever recover from seeing the halftime show.
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,677
    So this is really odd.  I guess they decided he can't claim executive privilege because that is extended to the branch of gov't, and the DOJ is part of the same branch as him.  So he is going with the speech and debate clause, which protects legislators from being prosecuted for their words in context of their duty.  My guess is that because the VP presides over the senate, he's going to argue that protects him.  So he's basically saying he is a member of two branches of gov't.  That's pretty interesting.  Seems like a stretch, but we'll see.  
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    mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 35,871
    mrussel1 said:
    So this is really odd.  I guess they decided he can't claim executive privilege because that is extended to the branch of gov't, and the DOJ is part of the same branch as him.  So he is going with the speech and debate clause, which protects legislators from being prosecuted for their words in context of their duty.  My guess is that because the VP presides over the senate, he's going to argue that protects him.  So he's basically saying he is a member of two branches of gov't.  That's pretty interesting.  Seems like a stretch, but we'll see.  

    I doubt Smith would have subpoenaed him without securing his appearance agreement first. This seems like show to me for 2024. Plausible-ish argument of no I wont because..... Then he has greater cover. Fuckstick was already claiming privilege about the lead up to Jan 6 when the subpoena was announced.
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    mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 35,871
    its official....


      
    Nikki Haley announces run for president, challenging Trump
    By MEG KINNARD
    8 mins ago

    CHARLESTON, S.C. (AP) — Nikki Haley, the former South Carolina governor and United Nations ambassador, announced her candidacy for president on Tuesday, becoming the first major challenger to former President Donald Trump for the 2024 Republican nomination.

    The announcement, delivered in a tweeted video, marks an about-face for the ex-Trump Cabinet official, who said two years ago that she wouldn’t challenge her former boss for the White House in 2024. But she changed her mind in recent months, citing, among other things, the country’s economic troubles and the need for “generational change,” a nod to the 76-year-old Trump’s age.

    “You should know this about me. I don't put up with bullies. And when you kick back, it hurts them more if you're wearing heels,” Haley said. “I'm Nikki Haley, and I'm running for president.”

    Haley, 51, is the first in a long line of Republicans who are expected to launch 2024 campaigns in the coming months. Among them are Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, former Vice President Mike Pence, former Secretary of State Mike Pompeo and Sen. Tim Scott of South Carolina.

    President Joe Biden has said he intends to seek reelection in 2024, stalling any jostling for the Democratic nomination.

    Haley has regularly boasted about her track record of defying political expectations, saying, “I’ve never lost an election, and I’m not going to start now.”

    If elected, Haley would be the nation’s first female president and the first U.S. president of Indian descent.

    The daughter of Indian immigrants, Haley grew up enduring racist taunts in a small South Carolina town and has long referenced that impact on her personal and political arc.

    In the three-and-a-half minute video, Haley referenced that past, saying she grew up “not Black, not white — I was different."

    Despite that, Haley insisted that America is not a racist country: “Nothing could be further from the truth.” Playing in the background of her video were images of media reports related to The New York Times Magazine’s Pulitzer Prize-winning “1619 Project” — which centered the country’s history around slavery.

    Haley never mentions Trump by name in the video, instead saying “the Washington establishment has failed us over and over and over again," Haley leans into a call for “a new generation of leadership,” which has become the refrain of her messaging leading up to the launch.

    According to a person familiar with the plans but not authorized to speak about them, the former South Carolina governor Nikki Haley is planning to launch her presidential campaign at an event in Charleston on the Wednesday, February 15th. (Feb. 13)

    She was an accountant when she launched her first bid for public office, defeating the longest-serving member of the South Carolina House in 2004. Three terms later and with little statewide recognition, Haley mounted a long-shot campaign for governor against a large field of experienced politicians.

    She racked up a number of high-profile endorsements, including from the sitting South Carolina governor, Mark Sanford, and former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, a tea party darling.

    With her 2010 victory, Haley became South Carolina’s first female and minority governor — and the nation’s youngest at 38. She earned a speaking slot at the 2012 Republican National Convention and gave the GOP response to President Barack Obama’s State of the Union in 2016.

    The defining moment of Haley’s time as governor came after the 2015 murders of nine Black parishioners in a Charleston church by a self-avowed white supremacist who had been pictured holding Confederate flags.

    For years, Haley had resisted calls to remove the Confederate flag from the Statehouse grounds, even casting a rival’s push for its removal as a desperate stunt. But after the massacre and with the support of other leading Republicans, Haley advocated for legislation to remove the flag. It came down less than a month after the murders.

    In the 2016 presidential primary, Haley was an early supporter of Florida Sen. Marco Rubio, later shifting to Texas Sen. Ted Cruz. She ultimately said she would back the party’s nominee.

    Shortly after Trump’s victory, he tapped Haley to be his U.N. ambassador, a move that rewarded Henry McMaster, the lieutenant governor who was the nation’s first statewide elected official to back Trump’s 2016 campaign. Haley’s departure cleared the way for McMaster to ascend to the governorship he had sought, since losing a bruising primary to none other than Haley seven years earlier.

    With her Senate confirmation, Haley became the first Indian American in a presidential Cabinet.

    During her nearly two-year tenure, Haley feuded at times with other administration officials while bolstering her own public persona.

    One of her most memorable moments as U.N. ambassador came in 2018 after National Economic Council Director Larry Kudlow suggested Haley had suffered “momentary confusion” when she said Russian sanctions were imminent.

    “With all due respect, I don’t get confused,” she responded. The first half of the quote became the title of her 2019 memoir.

    Her departure from the job later that year fueled speculation that she would challenge Trump in 2020 or replace Pence on the ticket. She did neither.

    Instead, Haley returned to South Carolina, where she bought a home on the wealthy enclave Kiawah Island, joined the board of aircraft manufacturer Boeing Co., launched herself on the speaking circuit and wrote two books, including the memoir.

    After the Jan. 6, 2021 insurrection, Haley initially cast doubts on Trump’s political future but said she wouldn’t challenge him in 2024. She later shifted course, citing inflation, crime, drugs and a “foreign policy in disarray” among her reasons for considering a White House campaign.

    During his South Carolina stop last month, Trump told WIS-TV that Haley had called to seek his opinion on running for president. Trump pointed out her earlier pledge not to run against him but said he made no attempts to stop her.

    “She said she would never run against me because I was the greatest president, but people change their opinions, and they change what’s in their hearts,” Trump said. “So I said, if your heart wants to do it, you have to go do it.”

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    Meg Kinnard can be reached at http://twitter.com/MegKinnardAP


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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,677
    mickeyrat said:
    mrussel1 said:
    So this is really odd.  I guess they decided he can't claim executive privilege because that is extended to the branch of gov't, and the DOJ is part of the same branch as him.  So he is going with the speech and debate clause, which protects legislators from being prosecuted for their words in context of their duty.  My guess is that because the VP presides over the senate, he's going to argue that protects him.  So he's basically saying he is a member of two branches of gov't.  That's pretty interesting.  Seems like a stretch, but we'll see.  

    I doubt Smith would have subpoenaed him without securing his appearance agreement first. This seems like show to me for 2024. Plausible-ish argument of no I wont because..... Then he has greater cover. Fuckstick was already claiming privilege about the lead up to Jan 6 when the subpoena was announced.
    Yeah, could be. 
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    Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom's Posts: 17,986
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    mickeyrat said:
    mrussel1 said:
    So this is really odd.  I guess they decided he can't claim executive privilege because that is extended to the branch of gov't, and the DOJ is part of the same branch as him.  So he is going with the speech and debate clause, which protects legislators from being prosecuted for their words in context of their duty.  My guess is that because the VP presides over the senate, he's going to argue that protects him.  So he's basically saying he is a member of two branches of gov't.  That's pretty interesting.  Seems like a stretch, but we'll see.  

    I doubt Smith would have subpoenaed him without securing his appearance agreement first. This seems like show to me for 2024. Plausible-ish argument of no I wont because..... Then he has greater cover. Fuckstick was already claiming privilege about the lead up to Jan 6 when the subpoena was announced.
    good call...you're probably right. This gives him the appearance of protecting tRump but in the end likely won't (or can't) protect him.


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    mickeyrat said:
    mrussel1 said:
    So this is really odd.  I guess they decided he can't claim executive privilege because that is extended to the branch of gov't, and the DOJ is part of the same branch as him.  So he is going with the speech and debate clause, which protects legislators from being prosecuted for their words in context of their duty.  My guess is that because the VP presides over the senate, he's going to argue that protects him.  So he's basically saying he is a member of two branches of gov't.  That's pretty interesting.  Seems like a stretch, but we'll see.  

    I doubt Smith would have subpoenaed him without securing his appearance agreement first. This seems like show to me for 2024. Plausible-ish argument of no I wont because..... Then he has greater cover. Fuckstick was already claiming privilege about the lead up to Jan 6 when the subpoena was announced.
    good call...you're probably right. This gives him the appearance of protecting tRump but in the end likely won't (or can't) protect him.


    He’s going to take the 5th, claim executive privilege and/or state that he doesn’t recall. There’s no way that he testifies to any substance that assists with any future potential prosecutions. None.
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,677
    mickeyrat said:
    mrussel1 said:
    So this is really odd.  I guess they decided he can't claim executive privilege because that is extended to the branch of gov't, and the DOJ is part of the same branch as him.  So he is going with the speech and debate clause, which protects legislators from being prosecuted for their words in context of their duty.  My guess is that because the VP presides over the senate, he's going to argue that protects him.  So he's basically saying he is a member of two branches of gov't.  That's pretty interesting.  Seems like a stretch, but we'll see.  

    I doubt Smith would have subpoenaed him without securing his appearance agreement first. This seems like show to me for 2024. Plausible-ish argument of no I wont because..... Then he has greater cover. Fuckstick was already claiming privilege about the lead up to Jan 6 when the subpoena was announced.
    good call...you're probably right. This gives him the appearance of protecting tRump but in the end likely won't (or can't) protect him.


    He’s going to take the 5th, claim executive privilege and/or state that he doesn’t recall. There’s no way that he testifies to any substance that assists with any future potential prosecutions. None.
    I don't know why he would plead the fifth.  How would he incriminate himself?  He did the right thing.  Executive privilege doesn't work either, since the DOJ is the same branch and Biden will waive privilege claims.  I'm not saying anything will come from it, but those two arguments won't work.  
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    gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 22,175
    like haley has a prayer or something.
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    mickeyrat said:
    WOW!  Holy shit.  I don't think she actually knows any "black people"...
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    like haley has a prayer or something.
    One might say she and the others are only entering the race to help Trump....
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    mrussel1 said:
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    mrussel1 said:
    So this is really odd.  I guess they decided he can't claim executive privilege because that is extended to the branch of gov't, and the DOJ is part of the same branch as him.  So he is going with the speech and debate clause, which protects legislators from being prosecuted for their words in context of their duty.  My guess is that because the VP presides over the senate, he's going to argue that protects him.  So he's basically saying he is a member of two branches of gov't.  That's pretty interesting.  Seems like a stretch, but we'll see.  

    I doubt Smith would have subpoenaed him without securing his appearance agreement first. This seems like show to me for 2024. Plausible-ish argument of no I wont because..... Then he has greater cover. Fuckstick was already claiming privilege about the lead up to Jan 6 when the subpoena was announced.
    good call...you're probably right. This gives him the appearance of protecting tRump but in the end likely won't (or can't) protect him.


    He’s going to take the 5th, claim executive privilege and/or state that he doesn’t recall. There’s no way that he testifies to any substance that assists with any future potential prosecutions. None.
    I don't know why he would plead the fifth.  How would he incriminate himself?  He did the right thing.  Executive privilege doesn't work either, since the DOJ is the same branch and Biden will waive privilege claims.  I'm not saying anything will come from it, but those two arguments won't work.  
    It’s not about what he did on January 6th, it’s about what he knows, witnessed, who said what to whom, in the lead up to January 6th. He’s not going to be a “rat.” A huge part of any potential criminal prosecution will be the ability to prove “criminal intent.” You need more than one witness or at least one witness and documentary evidence. Regardless, he ain’t ratting out POOTWH.
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    like haley has a prayer or something.
    Never trust someone who speaks through their teeth.
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    OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 4,829
    like haley has a prayer or something.
    I'd guess she's seeking the bottom-half of the ticket.
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